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Old July 17th, 2010, 07:32 AM   #1
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Infinite Crisis or Final Crisis

i love Infinite Crisis, I mean the lead-up and the after math 52 and one year later are all good and the main story is well written and the art is awsome and there are two parts that made me cry one was the scene where Nightwing was standing alone in Titans Tower and he put his hand on his head and said all of us just emotional and the second part was of course the Death of Superboy (Conner) i mean in the original Crisis on Infinite earths they killed of the original Supergirl now they killed superboy but it is a comic and they did bring back conner but it and Civil war from marvel is amonge the greatest comicbook stories ever.

Final Crisis the lead up was good but when you deal with altrnate realites things get confusing and the main story is confusing as well and a lot of people have had mixed feelings for this one now the only good part is when Batman had the face off with Darkside and the following sceane is sad and what the hell is with all freaken Super men that just was confusing and a vampire superman aka Ultraman just confusing the only thing cool about is grant morrison who did a an awsome job on the x-men, JLA, and The batman title but final crisis shares is just confusing.

now what do you prefer Infinite Crisis or Final Crisis if so please post a response now i can't wait until Blackest night comes out in Trad paperback and Hard back it is writtan by Infinit Crisis writer Geoff Johns.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 08:57 AM   #2
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I'm not huge into comic books (and I don't mean to troll), but there are simply WAY too many books with the word "crisis" in it. How does one keep them all straight? Do you just regard each 'crisis' as a unique series?
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Old July 17th, 2010, 09:19 AM   #3
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I choose Crisis On Infinite Earths
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Old July 17th, 2010, 02:46 PM   #4
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Crisis on Infinite Earths is great but it has its downside. On one hand it has an awesome title, some good characters, a massive scope, one of the saddest deaths in comic history and it does have an epic feeling to it. But the thing is, everyone is in it even Jonah Hex and Power Girl are in it! This is good and bad, because even though it feels really massive if you aren't too familiar with DC characters it can get hard to keep track of all the people. It's also one of the most complicated stories I've ever seen, and I mean in a good way, but also kind of a scary way, I've seen massive pages written about Crisis on Infinite Earths.

I haven't read any of the new crisises, because I'm just scared to. First you have to try and figure out their order, which isn't too easy because DC decided to name two comics COUNTDOWN TO x CRISIS, and I hear Countdown to Final Crisis is just terrible. But I hear 52, which is like an aftermath after Infinite Crisis, is awesome.
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Old July 17th, 2010, 03:07 PM   #5
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The Infinite Crisis series sprawled all over the place. The lead-up was all over with several limited series as well as crap happening in regular series. I was collecting comics at the time and was never sure what was happening in which titles and what was related and what wasn't. Often it wasn't clear how events in one title related to anything until much later in another title. The lead-up limited series were like that a lot. I was never sure what the Seven Soldiers storyline had to do with anything or whether it even took place in the main DCU.

I stopped reading Marvel when Civil War came out. It looked convoluted and I'm just sick of that shopworn idea from marvel. How many times have they used that same basic premise? They have been beating that dead horse for decades.

I never read the newer crisis thing. That was after I quit getting comics the last time.

I saw a hardback version of Blackest Night at the bookstore yesterday.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 06:41 AM   #6
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yeah the countdown to final crisis was good at first than you got dealing with alternate realitites, then there is Jimmy Olsen who somehow got super powers and Mary marvel went dark and evil and the only good characters were Kyle Rayner, Donna Troy and of course the Red Hood (Jason Todd) so yeah it got terrible and the main story is confusing.

what the heck is Superman Beyond about it just so confusing and superman is ripping off Batman's titles first it was Superman returns just like Batman Returns and now Superman beyond just like Batman Beyond and they even have a vampire Superman ( a corrupted Ultraman) vampire Batman would so kick his butt another thing way to many supermen .
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Old July 19th, 2010, 07:02 AM   #7
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I'm not huge into comic books (and I don't mean to troll), but there are simply WAY too many books with the word "crisis" in it. How does one keep them all straight? Do you just regard each 'crisis' as a unique series?
They should just get it over with and do the ultimate mega-crossover:

Final Countdown to Crisis on 52 Infinite Identity Crisises.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 07:15 AM   #8
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well i hope Blackest Night is going to be a good read and dose anybody remmber Zero Hour where Hal Jordan ( Parallax) nearly destroyed the DC Universe to remake Coast City this was trying to clean up the continuity like the alternate Timelines and remmber Hyper Time another attmpte to explain the multiverse.
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Old July 19th, 2010, 07:55 AM   #9
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I'm not huge into comic books (and I don't mean to troll), but there are simply WAY too many books with the word "crisis" in it. How does one keep them all straight? Do you just regard each 'crisis' as a unique series?
Each DC Comics 'Crisis' essentially resets the continuity and only certain of the previous comic stories still actually count as canon. In this way, each one arguably replaces all crises that went before, although doubtless some hardcore comicbook fans will still insist that certain older crises are worth reading.
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Old July 20th, 2010, 11:31 PM   #10
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I think some of the older crisis storylines are still worth reading as stories in their own right. Infinite Crisis was an extension of the old Crisis on Infinite Earths storyline but you didn't have to go back and read the old one to understand the current one. They told you everything you needed to know about the mi-80s crisis. As I understand it, Final Crisis is another extension.

DC also likes to thrown in a crisis in the 'mystic' part of the DCU at the same time as their main crisis thing. They did it in the first crisis series with the Brujeria's attempt to awaken the hand of destruction and then again with the storyline involving The Spectre this time. I don't know about Final Crisis.
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Old July 23rd, 2010, 04:09 PM   #11
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Each DC Comics 'Crisis' essentially resets the continuity and only certain of the previous comic stories still actually count as canon. In this way, each one arguably replaces all crises that went before, although doubtless some hardcore comicbook fans will still insist that certain older crises are worth reading.
But didn't Infinite Crisis and final crisis happen within 3 years of eachother? Did they reset the continunity twice in one decade?
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Old July 27th, 2010, 03:11 AM   #13
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But didn't Infinite Crisis and final crisis happen within 3 years of eachother? Did they reset the continunity twice in one decade?
From what I was told, Final Crisis just wraps up loose ends left by the other crisis thing. I guess I should read it or something. I don't want to buy it in trade though.

Buy it for me.
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Old July 28th, 2010, 04:59 PM   #14
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I stopped reading Marvel when Civil War came out. It looked convoluted and I'm just sick of that shopworn idea from marvel. How many times have they used that same basic premise? They have been beating that dead horse for decades.


You should have stopped when Quesada broke the only adamantium clad rule in the Marvel verse.
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What? Did they bring Bucky back or something? Uncle Ben?
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