Front mission (De-)evolved

earsofdoom · May 20th, 2010, 10:09 PM

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ex...1#comments_top

Double helix why must you ruin everything you touch? really I wonder if they ever stopped to looks at the series long enough to understand it was an RTS.

Schadenfreude · May 20th, 2010, 10:52 PM

Squeenix doing a shooter?

Wat.

AsukaxSohryux · May 20th, 2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by earsofdoom

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ex...1#comments_top

Double helix why must you ruin everything you touch? really I wonder if they ever stopped to looks at the series long enough to understand it was an RTS.

You mean a SRPG...but yeah its a bummer (Helix did an awesome job on Silent Hill Homecoming, wth you smoking).

Seraphim · May 21st, 2010, 01:05 AM

This is almost as bad as what they are doing to X-COM. I know they are very mainstream these days, but is there any reason why developers seem to think every freaking game needs to be made into a shooter?

^I have to disagree with Homecoming as I found it fairly disappointing. I still think the series peaked at Silent Hill 2. Thats just me though

earsofdoom · May 21st, 2010, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by AsukaxSohryux

You mean a SRPG...but yeah its a bummer (Helix did an awesome job on Silent Hill Homecoming, wth you smoking).

Homecoming was awful, monsters made absolutely no sense (in the silent hill series monsters are manifestation's of someone's psyche, but in homecoming there just sharp and pointy for no odd reason), was trying way to hard to be silent hill 2 (hell pyramid head shows up for absolutely no reason), overly equiped you because of the "soldier" training (and then created a huge plot hole by just making you a crazy person that knows how to fight like a soldier for no odd reason), copied all the scenery and atmosphere from the movie, had zero memorable scene's, etc. really its just an awful silent hill game no matter how you look at it.

Schadenfreude · May 21st, 2010, 07:18 AM

RTS games are typically godawful on Consoles. And since it seems they reaaaaally wanted to do a console game, seems they went at least a sensible route and made it an SRPG.

Ikari Warrior · May 21st, 2010, 07:48 AM

I can't watch the video right now, but if what other posters say is true, I think that a Front Mission action game isn't a bad idea. How many times are you going to recycle the same formula of mech SRPG action? A spinoff isn't a bad thing, especially if it's well-executed.

DarkNataku · May 21st, 2010, 08:55 AM

Really disappointed, I imported FM5 and even though I can't read Japanese I loved that game, now this...

cris · May 21st, 2010, 09:02 AM

Front Mission Online and Alternative was fun when I played it, so I'm hoping this game is at least playable.

ZechsMerquise1 · May 22nd, 2010, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cris

Front Mission Online and Alternative was fun when I played it, so I'm hoping this game is at least playable.

FMO beta was in japanese right?

cris · May 22nd, 2010, 09:24 AM

FMO was Japan only through PoL as far as I'm aware.

Dalmain · May 22nd, 2010, 09:46 AM

I don't know what to say. I didn't watch the whole video, but I prefer the srpg FM. Let's wait and see I guess.

Ikari Warrior · May 22nd, 2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by earsofdoom

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ex...1#comments_top

Double helix why must you ruin everything you touch? really I wonder if they ever stopped to looks at the series long enough to understand it was an RTS.

Uh, wat? Having watched the video, it looks to me like the creators of Front Mission approached Double Helix with this idea. The footage looks pretty sound to me, and it looks like they're taking the strategy element into the consideration of the game design.

Honestly, I don't understand what your problem is. The game is consistent with the existing art style. Are you telling me you never wanted to actually TAKE CONTROL of the Wanzer? For, what, 15? 20? years these massive machines have been tethered to a grid, and now we the player are in control.

If this game has the simplistic control of MechAssault, and not the unnecessarily obfuscated control of Armored Core, I think we'll have a winner.

DarkNataku · May 22nd, 2010, 07:40 PM

Nope, I like my RTS.

earsofdoom · May 22nd, 2010, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ikari Warrior

Uh, wat? Having watched the video, it looks to me like the creators of Front Mission approached Double Helix with this idea. The footage looks pretty sound to me, and it looks like they're taking the strategy element into the consideration of the game design.

Honestly, I don't understand what your problem is. The game is consistent with the existing art style. Are you telling me you never wanted to actually TAKE CONTROL of the Wanzer? For, what, 15? 20? years these massive machines have been tethered to a grid, and now we the player are in control.

If this game has the simplistic control of MechAssault, and not the unnecessarily obfuscated control of Armored Core, I think we'll have a winner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlwJwW8-2c0

Behold the slowest lamest gameplay you've ever seen in a mech game, and no i have never once wanted to control these things it's why i bought the game when it was an SRPG, whenever i do want to pilot a mech i just play ZOE 2.

May 20th, 2010, 10:09 PM	#1
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Seraphim Forbidden Sonata Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Somewhere under the stars. Posts: 563	This is almost as bad as what they are doing to X-COM. I know they are very mainstream these days, but is there any reason why developers seem to think every freaking game needs to be made into a shooter? ^I have to disagree with Homecoming as I found it fairly disappointing. I still think the series peaked at Silent Hill 2. Thats just me though __________________ In order to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. Last edited by Seraphim; May 21st, 2010 at 01:08 AM.

May 21st, 2010, 07:18 AM	#6
Schadenfreude Schadenfreudian slip. Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Among the peanut gallery Posts: 7,755	RTS games are typically godawful on Consoles. And since it seems they reaaaaally wanted to do a console game, seems they went at least a sensible route and made it an SRPG. __________________ When I go to the bathroom, I aim for the water to maximize noise and assert my dominance. Steam ID: Chuchuchrain Origin: Choochoochrain

May 21st, 2010, 07:48 AM	#7
Ikari Warrior Out to Lunch Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MIA Posts: 4,468 Blog Entries: 3	I can't watch the video right now, but if what other posters say is true, I think that a Front Mission action game isn't a bad idea. How many times are you going to recycle the same formula of mech SRPG action? A spinoff isn't a bad thing, especially if it's well-executed. __________________ Son of a gum-chewing funk monster! Why the fruit does all this funny stuff happen to me? Forget my life! Always surrounded by miserable failing clods! Like this whole world likes to bend me over and find me in the Alps! Like I'm some sort of schlub receptacle. Well as far as I care, these miserable cows can have a fancy barbeque with a goddamned pig!

May 21st, 2010, 08:55 AM	#8
DarkNataku Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On the Wire Posts: 2,546	Really disappointed, I imported FM5 and even though I can't read Japanese I loved that game, now this... __________________ Koiwai:Come on, Yotsuba. The more the merrier! Jumbo:Yeah, he's right. The more the merrier. Yotsuba: Even if it's Yanda? A woman needs two animals, the horse of her dreams and a jackass to pay for it.

May 21st, 2010, 09:02 AM	#9
cris Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,015	Front Mission Online and Alternative was fun when I played it, so I'm hoping this game is at least playable. __________________ Wii Code:2143 9232 3432 0216 Xbox Live!:RiyuFF PSN ID:djricekcn b.net:ask me Currently Playing: Kingdom Hearts 3D [3DS] Bio Hazard Revelations[3DS] Silent Hill Downpour [PS3] Paltena's Mirror [3DS] Code of Princess [3DS] It's because i trust you that i know when you're lying -Gibb Last edited by cris; May 21st, 2010 at 09:04 AM.

May 22nd, 2010, 09:24 AM	#11
cris Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 7,015	FMO was Japan only through PoL as far as I'm aware. __________________ Wii Code:2143 9232 3432 0216 Xbox Live!:RiyuFF PSN ID:djricekcn b.net:ask me Currently Playing: Kingdom Hearts 3D [3DS] Bio Hazard Revelations[3DS] Silent Hill Downpour [PS3] Paltena's Mirror [3DS] Code of Princess [3DS] It's because i trust you that i know when you're lying -Gibb

May 22nd, 2010, 09:46 AM	#12
Dalmain Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southeast U.S.A. Posts: 293	I don't know what to say. I didn't watch the whole video, but I prefer the srpg FM. Let's wait and see I guess.

May 22nd, 2010, 07:40 PM	#14
DarkNataku Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: On the Wire Posts: 2,546	Nope, I like my RTS. __________________ Koiwai:Come on, Yotsuba. The more the merrier! Jumbo:Yeah, he's right. The more the merrier. Yotsuba: Even if it's Yanda? A woman needs two animals, the horse of her dreams and a jackass to pay for it.