Daily videogame thoughts - Page 655

Melion · May 7th, 2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MechaFan

And in GW2's defense it does have one of those most interesting open-world PvP systems I've seen.. It looks awsome.. But I'm just not willing to take my chances on MMO's thats blatently sale in game currency/items for real cash; unless ofcourse I win the lotto or something and can afford to deck out a character with uber gearz

Once again you are assuming that you will be able to buy the best gear with gold without any evidence to back up that claim.

Here is a general concept on how the cashshop in GW2 will work.

http://i.imgur.com/1haej.jpg

earsofdoom · May 7th, 2012, 05:42 AM

Path of Exile just revealed its final class, its a sadistic necromancer called a "shadow" who gets exiled for grizzly murders in which the victim get flayed alive. Thats pretty much the final push i needed to play this instead of a PG-13 necromancer called a witch docter in diablo 3. I've already got an Ice mage/Zombie summoner build setup for the public stress text this friday, I reccomend anyone looking for a Dark fantasy diablo style game to check it out the open stress test will last until sunday so plenty of time to play around.

MechaFan · May 7th, 2012, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Melion

Once again you are assuming that you will be able to buy the best gear with gold without any evidence to back up that claim.

Here is a general concept on how the cashshop in GW2 will work.

http://i.imgur.com/1haej.jpg

I know how their cash shop works, they ripped it straight from Perfect Worlds book

Its no wonder they did though considering how much money PW rakes in with its games (at the players expense in my experience.)

I jus' can't agree with a game that'll give other players willing to fork out money an over-all advantage.. Maybe the best gear isn't bought with real cash, maybe the best gear is? Either way, a player can sale gems for real gold and purchase gear to have an advantage, weather it be early on or end-game gear.

I'm all for cash shops with cosmetic items only or even the dreaded +50% XP boost stuff.. But when you allow the games main currency to be purchaseable with money then I'm sorry, IMHO the game is giving the advantage to those willing to pay.. And with my experience on other F2P games to keep up with others you're going to be paying a lot more money then a monthly sub would cost you.

You assumed that only cash shop items were purchaseble with cash.. You assumed that PvP would only be done on equal gear.. I know I might've made some wrong assumptions myself about the game but I'm still sticking with my assumption that the game is P2W or boarder-line P2W.

Melion · May 7th, 2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MechaFan

I jus' can't agree with a game that'll give other players willing to fork out money an over-all advantage.. Maybe the best gear isn't bought with real cash, maybe the best gear is?

That sentence doesn't even make sense.

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Either way, a player can sale gems for real gold and purchase gear to have an advantage, weather it be early on or end-game gear.

But you don't know how much gold you will be needing for the gear and which gear is even obtainable by gold and hell, some gear can only be bought with gold AND karma which you earn by doing events.

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I'm all for cash shops with cosmetic items only or even the dreaded +50% XP boost stuff.. But when you allow the games main currency to be purchaseable with money then I'm sorry,

Those boosts are just time saving items for people that don't have as much playtime as others due to work and such. I fail to see it as "dreaded"

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IMHO the game is giving the advantage to those willing to pay.. And with my experience on other F2P games to keep up with others you're going to be paying a lot more money then a monthly sub would cost you.

That's just your personal experience and those advantages given in GW2 aren't gamebreaking by any means.

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You assumed that only cash shop items were purchaseble with cash.. You assumed that PvP would only be done on equal gear..

I'll give you that I'm most likely wrong about the PVP gear (though you only showed one article backing up your claim) but cashshop items are only purchaseble with cash, albeit you have to turn that cash into gems first and then use the gems in the cashshop. Don't claim something that isn't true.

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I know I might've made some wrong assumptions myself about the game but I'm still sticking with my assumption that the game is P2W or boarder-line P2W.

And I'm telling you that your assumptions about it being pay2win are still wrong as I am clearly (though not in every area) more informed about Guild Wars 2 than you are.

ryushe · May 8th, 2012, 04:48 AM

I just watched the Starhawk review on IGN and Gametrailers and I've been pretty oblivious to the game up until now. Other than knowing its name and having a beta code from purchasing Uncharted 3 (which I never used), I knew next to nothing, but after watching that review, all I could say was "Wow, this game looks incredible!"

I mean, it's a third person shooter with a space western aesthetic ala Firefly, with Mechs that transform like a Macross Valkyrie, all with resources and base building/management as the crux to the gameplay. Like, what's not to like about that?!

Now, for what bothers me.

I don't know if I'm an outlier to this since I wasn't interested in this game to look up more info about it pre-release, but even so, why didn't Sony market the hell out of this game?

Unless I was truly blind to it and they did, but I don't see why this isn't the PS3 game for the year to own. Even in my circle of gaming friends, most of which are rabid Sony fanboys, we've not heard anything interesting about this game or why we all need to want and own it. This is the sort of thing that honestly bugs me about Sony. They highlight games to sometimes insane degrees that properly shouldn't even get a second glance (God of War: Assesion, Smash Bros. Playstation Time Unite, etc.) and have interesting IP's that are poopoo'd because of it.

It's just frustrating as a gamer to know that a company as good, creative and once ambitious as Sony just can't seem to get their crap together.

earsofdoom · May 8th, 2012, 07:47 AM

In order to get advertising you need to have a color palette of mostly brown or gray, and mostly consist of Shooting things from cover.

MechaFan · May 8th, 2012, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ryushe

I just watched the Starhawk review on IGN and Gametrailers and I've been pretty oblivious to the game up until now. Other than knowing its name and having a beta code from purchasing Uncharted 3 (which I never used), I knew next to nothing, but after watching that review, all I could say was "Wow, this game looks incredible!"

I mean, it's a third person shooter with a space western aesthetic ala Firefly, with Mechs that transform like a Macross Valkyrie, all with resources and base building/management as the crux to the gameplay. Like, what's not to like about that?!

Now, for what bothers me.

I don't know if I'm an outlier to this since I wasn't interested in this game to look up more info about it pre-release, but even so, why didn't Sony market the hell out of this game?

Unless I was truly blind to it and they did, but I don't see why this isn't the PS3 game for the year to own. Even in my circle of gaming friends, most of which are rabid Sony fanboys, we've not heard anything interesting about this game or why we all need to want and own it. This is the sort of thing that honestly bugs me about Sony. They highlight games to sometimes insane degrees that properly shouldn't even get a second glance (God of War: Assesion, Smash Bros. Playstation Time Unite, etc.) and have interesting IP's that are poopoo'd because of it.

It's just frustrating as a gamer to know that a company as good, creative and once ambitious as Sony just can't seem to get their crap together.

Haha, I made a post about this game a while back.. I saw an advertisement on youtube and I was like "Wtf game is this?" and then I saw the name at the end and I was still "Wtf game is this?"

It does look very promiseing but that youtube add was the first time I heard about the game

I'll probably give it a shot when it launches in a few days.

earsofdoom · May 8th, 2012, 11:34 AM

a shooter/RTS on console? sorry but im going to have to stick with natural selection on the PC.

**Gibb** · May 8th, 2012, 11:39 AM

I've been following Starhawk for a while, and I've honestly seen a decent amount of advertising for it (especially from the PSN blog which has had tons of interviews and articles about it). It's not really my kind of game, but it does look pretty decent. Warhawk was a pretty fun multiplayer game, so I expect the same from Starhawk I suppose.

superplough · May 8th, 2012, 12:34 PM

Mario Kart

So apparently, you can do jump/drift around corners and you get a major speed boost. The game... is a lot easier now.

Vaikyuko · May 8th, 2012, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by superplough

Mario Kart

So apparently, you can do jump/drift around corners and you get a major speed boost. The game... is a lot easier now.

This has been in the games since the N64 one, sweetie.

superplough · May 8th, 2012, 01:14 PM

This explains why I have never been good at these games.

Tama83 · May 8th, 2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by superplough

Mario Kart

So apparently, you can do jump/drift around corners and you get a major speed boost. The game... is a lot easier now.

Until you get blasted by a spiny shell or lightning (the only completely unavoidable attacks) in single player (especially in Mario Kart Wii and Mario Kart 7), possibly resulting in losing the race when you should have won, possibly resulting in getting a lower rank than you should have after finishing the cup....

Melion · May 8th, 2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tama83

Until you get blasted by a spiny shell or lightning (the only completely unavoidable attacks) in single player (especially in Mario Kart Wii and Mario Kart 7), possibly resulting in losing the race when you should have won, possibly resulting in getting a lower rank than you should have after finishing the cup....

Please, don't bring back those painful memories.

earsofdoom · May 8th, 2012, 02:33 PM

So I found out a crazy korean player solo'd one of the end game dragons of vindictus. (you usually need 26 players to even stand a chance against one of these.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thXpu...eature=related

They call him Dovahkin, the dragonborn. if anyones up for making a vindictus group join the Eastern US server.

May 8th, 2012, 04:48 AM	#9815
ryushe Mother of Dragons Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 11,446	I just watched the Starhawk review on IGN and Gametrailers and I've been pretty oblivious to the game up until now. Other than knowing its name and having a beta code from purchasing Uncharted 3 (which I never used), I knew next to nothing, but after watching that review, all I could say was "Wow, this game looks incredible!" I mean, it's a third person shooter with a space western aesthetic ala Firefly, with Mechs that transform like a Macross Valkyrie, all with resources and base building/management as the crux to the gameplay. Like, what's not to like about that?! Now, for what bothers me. I don't know if I'm an outlier to this since I wasn't interested in this game to look up more info about it pre-release, but even so, why didn't Sony market the hell out of this game? Unless I was truly blind to it and they did, but I don't see why this isn't the PS3 game for the year to own. Even in my circle of gaming friends, most of which are rabid Sony fanboys, we've not heard anything interesting about this game or why we all need to want and own it. This is the sort of thing that honestly bugs me about Sony. They highlight games to sometimes insane degrees that properly shouldn't even get a second glance (God of War: Assesion, Smash Bros. Playstation Time Unite, etc.) and have interesting IP's that are poopoo'd because of it. It's just frustrating as a gamer to know that a company as good, creative and once ambitious as Sony just can't seem to get their crap together. __________________ My Art Thread/deviantART/Playfire

May 8th, 2012, 11:39 AM	#9819
Gibb アサギ Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 12,450 Blog Entries: 1	I've been following Starhawk for a while, and I've honestly seen a decent amount of advertising for it (especially from the PSN blog which has had tons of interviews and articles about it). It's not really my kind of game, but it does look pretty decent. Warhawk was a pretty fun multiplayer game, so I expect the same from Starhawk I suppose. __________________ Currently playing Ratchet: Deadlocked HD (PS3), Disgaea Dimension 2 (PS3), Dead Island Riptide (Steam) Current Avatar: Asagi from Disgaea Dimension 2

May 8th, 2012, 12:34 PM	#9820
superplough In USSR curry eats Ploff Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 16,384 Blog Entries: 50	Mario Kart So apparently, you can do jump/drift around corners and you get a major speed boost. The game... is a lot easier now. __________________ http://myanimelist.net/animelist/superplough

May 8th, 2012, 01:14 PM	#9822
superplough In USSR curry eats Ploff Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 16,384 Blog Entries: 50	This explains why I have never been good at these games. __________________ http://myanimelist.net/animelist/superplough

May 7th, 2012, 05:42 AM	#9812
earsofdoom Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,390	Path of Exile just revealed its final class, its a sadistic necromancer called a "shadow" who gets exiled for grizzly murders in which the victim get flayed alive. Thats pretty much the final push i needed to play this instead of a PG-13 necromancer called a witch docter in diablo 3. I've already got an Ice mage/Zombie summoner build setup for the public stress text this friday, I reccomend anyone looking for a Dark fantasy diablo style game to check it out the open stress test will last until sunday so plenty of time to play around.

May 8th, 2012, 07:47 AM	#9816
earsofdoom Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,390	In order to get advertising you need to have a color palette of mostly brown or gray, and mostly consist of Shooting things from cover.

May 8th, 2012, 11:34 AM	#9818
earsofdoom Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,390	a shooter/RTS on console? sorry but im going to have to stick with natural selection on the PC.

May 8th, 2012, 02:33 PM	#9825
earsofdoom Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,390	So I found out a crazy korean player solo'd one of the end game dragons of vindictus. (you usually need 26 players to even stand a chance against one of these.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thXpu...eature=related They call him Dovahkin, the dragonborn. if anyones up for making a vindictus group join the Eastern US server.