Collaborators Wanted

[lordlee]

I've got an idea I've come up with. It is a fanime project that crosses Tsukihime with Warhammer 40k (I've also got a sequel involving FSN in the works too, but it is far less fleshed out) and I've gotten quite a bit of it worked out. I've thought out the backstories, come up with soundtracks and endings, and a format for the episodes to be released in. All of which I've worked on from a Troper perspective.

Here's the problem with this: I've got ideas for story, gags, and tons of other things but I can barely DRAW let alone animate.

So here's how it is: I need animators, voice actors (this I can do a bit of, but I'll at least need someone for the girl voices), and if possible some other writers to help so that I don't screw up as much as I think I will. It would help if any of the above knew about 40k, as I'm compared to the Nasuverse I know less about that.

Oh and one last thing: if you think you can do a good remix of something, contact me, I'd be glad for input there to. Or anywhere else really, I'm open to ideas all around.

Edit:
We will need at LEAST 3 of the following:

Animators:

Voice Actors:
Mavin

Co-Writers:
Mavin
GoddessOfAnime

Optional:

Editors (editing can be done by the above, but having people who's entire job it is to edit would be a comfort)

Music Staff (remixers, composers, bands, whatever)

If we can meet the minimum (I'd like to have more, but we can at least start with that) then we can trade emails and start to really plan stuff.

[Leader Desslock]

Originally Posted by lordlee

All of which I've worked on from a Troper perspective.

I promised myself I wasn't going to ask, but I can't leave it alone.

What, exactly, did you mean by that statement? There are two possibilities that come to mind. What do you feel is the "troper perspective", and how did you use this perspective to help you write your material?

[lordlee]

It means pretty much what it sounds like: I am a frequent flyer on TV Tropes and as such can and do tear everything I work on and view down to the bare devices. In the case of stuff I make I try to put as many tropes as I can in without disrupting the flow of things.

I suppose the best way to put it is that it helps me look at what I write from the view of a critic, not just a mildly crazy fanboy.

[Leader Desslock]

Originally Posted by lordlee

I try to put as many tropes as I can in without disrupting the flow of things.

So.... you go out of your way to include as many things in your fiction as you can that are, by definition, unoriginal?

[Mavin Maverick]

I'm always up to volunteer my voice, and writing. I do know a decent bit about 40k, but I don't know anything about Tsukihime...I guess that's dangerous to admit at an Anime place. LOL

I also don't know anything about Tropes, so I guess I should probably check that out, if it's important.

Desslock - It's fanfic...unoriginal abounds. LOL

[Leader Desslock]

Originally Posted by Mavin Maverick

I also don't know anything about Tropes, so I guess I should probably check that out, if it's important.

Don't say you weren't warned.

Seriously, it's a black hole for writers and geeks. You can browse in, but you'll never browse out.

Originally Posted by Mavin Maverick

Desslock - It's fanfic...unoriginal abounds. LOL

Well, there's truth to that statement, but I think you'll see what I mean (and curse my name) after you see what TVTropes is all about.

There are times when a writer wants to add as many genre conventions as possible to his work - in parody, for example. But I don't get the idea the OP is shooting for that. I get the idea he's shopping for used parts for his plot device. I could be wrong, but...

[lordlee]

The entire point of TV Tropes is that it ISN'T about shopping for used parts. After all, Tropes Are Not Bad, nor are they automatically cliches. In fact, the TV Tropes home page takes care to point that out.

So no, I'm not exactly shopping for used goods, it is just easier to write when you have some sort of frame work.

It would help if you had a basic knowledge of Tsukihime Mavin. Fortunately, TV Tropes can help with that too. Takes about 10 minutes for you to have a good understanding of the show.

Keep in mind that when I say I have it fleshed out, I mean that I have the basic plot and the background of various characters written, not whole episodes of dialogue. This is an attempt to combine Tsukihime and 40k into a fan made anime, it's going to take a LOT of work.

This is of course, just the ideal version. We could always step it down to a webcomic. The main reasons I want it to be an anime are the Rule Of Cool and that I want a soundtrack.

[Leader Desslock]

Originally Posted by lordlee

The entire point of TV Tropes is that it ISN'T about shopping for used parts.

Yes. I know that. I am as yet unconvinced that you, the writer, have taken this to heart.

If you have, great. 'Nuff said.

Originally Posted by lordlee

This is an attempt to combine Tsukihime and 40k into a fan made anime, it's going to take a LOT of work.

A Common Suggestion I Have Made To Many Of Your Predecessors: Write the screenplay first. Everything else depends on it, and there's no point in anyone else doing any work until you've finished at least one complete draft of the screenplay.

You can always edit the screenplay later, if the project demands it (and it will). But completing the screenplay is an excellent way for you to demonstrate that you're taking the project seriously yourself, and that you're willing to put in the work you're asking everyone else to do.

It's also a good way for you to present your creative vision for the project, and since it is your project, that's a good thing.

[lordlee]

I agree to a point, however I don't trust myself to have full control of the screenplay, even just an original copy. I can, at my best, write multiple key scenes. I can't write transitions scenes or battles very well. If I myself write the whole original screenplay, the whole project is given a rather bleak outlook when presented to others. This is why I also am recruiting writers.

I do have ONE entire episode written out, with Arc and the True Ancestor's background. But this is because it is without any actual lines. It's just images set to this song.

[goddessofanime]

YOu know, if you were looking for writers, I'd love to help out.

[lordlee]

Okay I'm going to put up a list of minimum staff in the first post. If we can fill it, we can all trade emails and start putting some plans together.

[Toadsage]

These projects are unbelievable time consumingly hard to start. Even finding one guy(usually in graphics) to really want to help you out can take months. But none the less, such a thing can be pulled off.

I am currently in one of these projects myself at the moment, and If I was to restart, this is what I would have done.

First, and I mean even if you cant draw worth anything, some type of storyboard needs to be created. Not the entire thing, but at least 60-80 frames of part of the project. I would suggest picking an interesting part of the story of course. Look at pictures off the internet, trace them, do whatever it takes to get the storyboard done. In a week, or two tops of dedicated work, you should have a decent storyboard.

Next, gather your voice actors, and have them act out the parts of the story. Compile the storyboard frames, voice overs, and special effects together to create an Animatic. After its finished, show it to a few people, and fix, or add more frames in where needed.

The key is to show your willing to put in the effort, and more will follow.

Use this completed animatic to pitch to people on every site you can think of. If your story's good enough, you may start to attract some people to the project. If nobody seems interested, its back to the drawing board.

This information comes from almost a years worth of trial and error, and as simple as it sounds, it works ^^. LOL.. and I wont argue if you want to try your own way to get things done... hahaha been there, done that.

[Tom Servo]

Originally Posted by Toadsage

First, and I mean even if you cant draw worth anything, some type of storyboard needs to be created. Not the entire thing, but at least 60-80 frames of part of the project. I would suggest picking an interesting part of the story of course. Look at pictures off the internet, trace them, do whatever it takes to get the storyboard done. In a week, or two tops of dedicated work, you should have a decent storyboard.

Next, gather your voice actors, and have them act out the parts of the story. Compile the storyboard frames, voice overs, and special effects together to create an Animatic. After its finished, show it to a few people, and fix, or add more frames in where needed.

The key is to show your willing to put in the effort, and more will follow.

This. You need to demonstrate your ability as a director first before you start asking for help. Even if your moving storyboard is just stick people with the lines subtitled it at once shows your commitment to what you're doing, which is always exciting to see, and it shows your vision.

My real advice though would be to drop this fanime project of yours and try at first to make a 60 second film. Draw 60 panels across a number of sheets of paper and fill them in with your interesting, creative and exciting story. Scan those panels and play them back on your computer, one panel per second, change things as necessary until it feels right - then pitch your idea again:

"Guys! I have this really good idea - there's this cute girl walking down a road but she gets caught in the crossfire between Earth's Defence Force and a mysterious alien invasion, there's this explosion and she gets knocked down, but then an alien spaceship beams her up away from the fire fight and then it's revealed that what we thought we the alien invaders were actually people - and that Earth's Defence Force were really aliens in disguise! Then there are more explosions and the aliens retreat - here's this moving storyboard I made to show you how this'll look."

If you can't get a 1 minute piece of animation done then there's little hope for anything longer.

It took me maybe 3 weeks to make this - while I didn't like how it turned out at least it got finished. Even though something like that video isn't necessarily difficult to produce it is immensely time consuming.

[Mavin Maverick]

Ahhh...Desslock, I would never curse your name. LOL

[Leader Desslock]

^ Oh, you can go ahead and curse my name. Lots of people do.

I think you and Toadsage should just assimilate this guy into your project, because you've got far more going on there. As far as I can tell, all lordlee's got is "an idea" at this point. I think he needs to spend some time working on that idea himself before he asks anyone else to work on it.