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Ivalice Timeline
FFXII > FFXII: Revanant Wings > FFTA > FFTA2 > FFT > Vagrant Story
Am I right?
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That looks right to me. FFXII would have to predate everything, and Tactics would have to be near the end. I didn't play enough of Vagrant Story to get a real sense of the timeline.
My only thing is, FFTA seems to be a side-story that doesn't directly affect the "real" ivalice, so I don't know if that would fit in the timeline.
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I posted a time line, let me see if i can find the thread. ADD: it was on the the same page, just slightly down
Age of Gods The era when オキューリア族, the undying ones, ruled the world 1000 years later Age of Melancamp Melancamp the mage made the book of Grimore and the Magical City of Raremonde Approx 2000 years later Age of Galdia Federation Racewall united Ivalice into one and creates Galdia Federation 704 years later Final Fantasy XII Empire of Arcadia invades Kingdom of Navlandia 2 years later Final Fantasy XII Revenant Wings few years later Final Fantasy Tactics A2 Russo, who is from the timeline of FFTA, wonders into Ivalice. Van and Panero are famous Air Pirates now. few 10 years later Age of St. Anjola's A new religion is born 1200 years later Final Fantasy Tactice Goldana (Black Lions Army) and Ragu (White Lions Army) starts the great Lion War. 400 years later Age of Azlam Azlam completed the Zodiac Brave Stories (the true story of FFT, not the original Zodiac Brave mentioned on FFXII) ?? years later Vagrant Story ?? years later Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Due to the book of Grand Grimore, St. Ivalice's world combines with the FFXII's world of Ivalice Few 10 years later FFTA2 real time line Russo opens a Grimore book in a library and gets sent to FFXII era. Note: FFTA and the others are parallel worlds to each other. FFTA world was combined with Ivalice, but not the real Ivalice of FFXII. It was from their imagination, which is strongly from the game they were playing, which was FFXII. Also there was some sort of great destruction between Revenant Wings and the Lion War (FFT), which pretty much caused mankind to go backwards, loosing technologies that existed in FFXII
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I was hoping that FFXII would answer what that cataclysm was, though.
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It's just a gut feeling, but I think they are going to make a game that's around the Great Destruction in probably a JRPG fashion or Vagrant Story prequel. Also, just to shorten the time line a little bit more. The destruction happened after St. Anjola religion born. After the destruction, that's when St. Anjola became big and became the center belief you see in FFT. Note: I may have English spellings incorrect.
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They pissed off the Worker robots and they had a reverse Butlerian Jihad.
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You do, but I didn't feel like being an a-hole and correcting you. I just assumed you were running off a direct japanese translation. Besides (if memory serves) English isn't your first language, so I'm not about to take points off
![]() I believe the correct translation of Anjola is St. Anjora (at least it was in the original FFT translation). Goldana is Goltana Ragu is Larg lol, worker 8 ftw!
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The Age of Creation
The Creation of Ivalice -It is believed that one immortal created the land of Ivalice, however, details are unknown The Creation of the Gods -Details are not known The Zodiac Stones -13 Crystals with the Zodiac emblem are created -Some researchers believed that there are only 12 angels but some believe that there was a 13th one. The 13th one is believed to have the Emblem of the Rainbow. The Occuria Tribe -Many races roams Ivalice, however, only the Occuria Tribe has existed since the beginning of mankind. This tribe has existed for over x0,000 years. The Age of Gods Age of Power -Few thousand years before Valendia Year 700 (BC), the Occuria Tribe has ruled Ivalice under their power. -However, one day they have mysterious vanished from history. -Not having a power controlling the land of Ivalice, people have fought countless wars to become the next rulers of Ivalice. Egul Tribe -The Eguls started a war with the Occuria, however, was banished from the land of Ivalice and jailed. The Thousand Year Holy War -Details are unknown but is believe it was a war between the Gods of Ivaice and the ones who opposed the Gods. The Ice Age -Details are not known, but it is believed that majority of the life form on Ivalice has died during this time period. The Age of Civilization Magic -It is believed that this is the era when magic was first introduced to the world of Ivalice. Many people believed that Occuria technology have to do something with it. The Age of Ancient Galdia -Many thousand years after The Age of Gods, a new nation is born. The Age of Ancient Kildean -Details are not known, however, it is believed that a powerful nation once existed before the Noa's Arc. Valendia Year 1300 (BC) -A prophet has created the Kildean religion. The religion has spread after the prophet has died ??? -Before Ivalice of now, land was (World view wise) not in the same shape. During this time, the Great War of Ivalice has happened. It is believed that this war lasted for over 500 years. Valendia Year 1 (AD) -Raithwall, using the technology left behind by the Occuria (The stone and the sword), has united the land of Ivalice. The years of the Galtean Alliance has started. Valendia Year 44 (AD) -Raithwall dies. After his death, the second prince became the ruler of Dalmasca, while the third prince becomes the ruler of Norlandia. The three stones are separated, one in the tomb, one to Dalmasca, one to Norlandia. Valendia Year 324 (AD) -The Nation of Archadia reforms it's government and renames themselves to Republic of Archadia Valendia Year ??? (AD) -Moogles create the first airship Valendia Year 394 (AD) -Galdia has cut its relations with the Dalmasca. Dalmasca and Norlandia creates their own kingdoms. Valendia Year 398 (AD) -The Empire of Rosaria is born Valendia Year 486 (AD) -The Republic Archadia changes government once again, renames themselves the Empire of Archadia. Before Valendia Year 700 (AD) -The magic of Judge and Law created by Lazford Age of Ronka Dynasty (time line can not be determined) -Technology at its height -Ronka Dynasty has ruled Ivalice from the skies -Matoya from Ronka has created monster, along with the Ghost Train to transfer these monsters. -However, due to a plague, the Ronka Dynasty has disappeared from history. Age of Priestess Mullenkamp (time line can not be determined) -During this time period, magic was used as a daily routine by everyone. -made the book of Grimore and the Magical City of Raremonde then the rest is: Final Fantasy Tactics A2 Russo, who is from the timeline of FFTA, wonders into Ivalice. Van and Panero are famous Air Pirates now. few 10 years later Age of St. Anjora's A new religion is born 1200 years later Final Fantasy Tactice Goltana (Black Lions Army) and Larg (White Lions Army) starts the great Lion War. 400 years later Age of Azlam Azlam completed the Zodiac Brave Stories (the true story of FFT, not the original Zodiac Brave mentioned on FFXII) ?? years later Vagrant Story ?? years later Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Due to the book of Grand Grimore, St. Ivalice's world combines with the FFXII's world of Ivalice Few 10 years later FFTA2 real time line Russo opens a Grimore book in a library and gets sent to FFXII era. the source is suppose to be from an interview with Square-Enix, majority of the God era and before FFXII stuff coming from relics found in FFT (with the interview)
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Worker 8 is the single most broken thing in any FF game.
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Wow. This is something. I look forward to more Ivalice games.
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But Lusso goes to a Ivalice that is AFTER the FFTA Ivalice since Hurdy is Montblanc and Nono's little brother.
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FFTA's Ivalice is a parallel world while the others aren't
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What is all this? I've played XII and Vagrant Story..and I never thought they were connected. I could have played Tactics,but I never did..it haunts me though.
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This is a timeline I posted on another forum a little over a year ago. I think it's pretty accurate.
Final Fantasy XII and Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings To me, it's fairly obvious that these are the earliest games in the timeline. The Germonik scriptures in FFT mention a "golden age" in which airships were a common method of travel: "It was the golden age, when many airships flew all over the sky..." The translation in The War of the Lions even seems to hint at a connection even further, with a line that is virtually identical to one said in some FFXII trailers: "Saint Ajora's birth came in the midst of a golden age of technology, when airships yet plied the skies." Airships are a thing of the past in FFT, and so are Moogles. FFT states that they have long since died out, and with their abundance in FFXII, that would seem to indicate that the Ivalice of that game is the "golden age" mentioned. Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift I can't confirm any of this as I haven't played it yet, but I've heard a few things about its placement. Apparently, unlike FFTA, this one takes place in the actual Ivalice. The main character writes his name in a copy of the Gran Grimoire (complete with a Rood) and actually time travels to the past, around the time of FFXII. There he meets Vaan and Penelo, who apparently make reference to events in RW, which would place the bulk of this game's plot sometime after. Final Fantasy Tactics I already said most of what there is to say about FFT's placement, but I'll expand on it a little bit. I think there's a connection between the Moogles being extinct, the absence of airships and the overall setting of the game. FFXII's setting was a mix of medieval and futuristic, while FFT's is almost completely medieval European. In my opinion, the overall decline in technology was most likely caused by the extinction of the Moogles, who were master engineers in FFXII's time. With the loss of their mechanical prowess, Ivalice entered a technological dark age. Geographically, I think it's fairly obvious that the events of FFT take place to the far west of FFXII's Ivalice. Ordalia is on the western border in FFXII, while it's to the east in FFT. Vagrant Story Vagrant Story doesn't have too many obvious connections to Ivalice, but it was confirmed by Matsuno himself in 2004 that it takes place in areas close to the settings of FFT and FFXII. One main connection is the presence of the Light of Kiltia religion, which was active in FFXII, but ancient in VS. In FFXII its teachings seemed to be fairly positive, but by VS they've been twisted. There is a quote at the beginning of the game by the historian A.J. Durai, the same person who introduced the story of FFT. Also included are accessories like Agrias' Balm, a fragment of T.G. Cid's skeleton, the ashes of Barbanes Beoulve, and Beowulf's hair. All of these are obviously relics of the past, and would indicate that it takes place sometime after FFT. Geographically, the game takes place in Valendia, which was the continent in which Nabradia and Archadia from FFXII were located. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance and Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift FFTA was a little hard to place, mainly because the events of the game didn't actually happen. The imaginary world was similar to the Ivalice of FFXII, but it was actually comprised of a mix of magic and Mewt's thoughts. So, historically, the only real thing to go on is the town in which it all started: St. Ivalice. St. Ivalice is a very modern town, with cars, television sets and, apparently, video games. Because of all this I originally thought the frame story of this game took place in a fictional town in our world, but FFTA2 has me thinking otherwise. Like I mentioned earlier, I've heard that FFTA2 apparently has the main character time traveling to FFXII's Ivalice. As in, he's traveling to the past of his world, which would be the Ivalice of past games. If this is true, that would place both the FFTA games at the very end of the timeline, in a modern setting much like our own. Again, I can't confirm any of it, but there you go. Chronologically, I've heard that FFTA2 takes place just a couple years after the original. Last edited by Porco Rosso; January 15th, 2009 at 04:37 PM. |
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