Japanese Anime vs. American Anime

[Rain]

Anime is an accepted abbreviated form of the word animation to refer to Japanese animation in the western part of the world. It is still formal even though it might be vernacular; context doesn't matter.

[Dinco]

^Its not formal. Anime could refer to an art style in certain contexts. It doesn't have one specific definition chisled into stone as you claim.

[Rain]

That little amount of respect I had for you at the beginning (not saying much, but still) just got blown out the window.

At least Hexon.Arq provided an explanation.

[master terrence]

then why doesn't Animenation sell American cartoon products?

on another note

ask john, he's arbitrary and educated on the matter..

[Dinco]

That little amount of respect I had for you at the beginning (not saying much, but still) just got blown out the window.

At least Hexon.Arq provided an explanation.

I never asked for your respect. I just ask you don't advertise your opinion as fact. This is like trying to peg down one definition on the word hip hop, its just stupid.

[emotoaster]

wow...um can't we all just get along?

[Rain]

Originally Posted by Dinco

I never asked for your respect.

You didn't need to ask, I wasn't gonna give you any.

I just ask you don't advertise your opinion as fact. This is like trying to peg down one definition on the word hip hop, its just stupid.

How am I presenting my opinion as fact? I'm "arguing" with you over the fact that you think the word anime is slang. I even gave you dictionary definitions of the word, what more do you want? Everything I say is my own opinion and you're open to yours. Don't get me wrong though, I'm not saying that you're right and I'm wrong.

EDIT - Heehee @ you.

[Tiran]

Dinco, please calm down and discuss in a mature manner, if you intend to take part at all, this applies to lots of your other posts as well.
You can consider this an official warning.

[Prof.Nosebleed]

Is there some kind of flame war going on or is one about to start? You people seem to be making threats while promises are much more potent. So whoever survives gets picked off like a straggler by the sneaky ones in the end...

[K' Dash]

Originally Posted by Dij

A lot of American 'anime' style cartoons have simply cottoned on to the popularity of Japanese anime. They have imitated the visual style of anime without creating anything anywhere near as original in terms of story or character development.

what if, say, an american who can truly create what you'd consider true Japanese anime, made an incredible series with a company like Gainax (makers of Furi kuri and evangelion)? is it still an american cartoon?

[SDF/Draven]

Originally Posted by K' Dash

what if, say, an american who can truly create what you'd consider true Japanese anime, made an incredible series with a company like Gainax (makers of Furi kuri and evangelion)? is it still an american cartoon?

Depends. Anime is a term thats used to describe a movie or television show that was produced by, and for, a Japanese audience. If this American, regardless of where he lived or worked, created a new show with Gainax intended for a Japanese audience, then it would be anime. If it was made for an American audience, then its an American cartoon.

Now, G1 Transformers was produced by Hasbro for an American audience. But it was animated by foreign studios, much like the original and current GIJoe (and even Futurama), with those animators having nothing to do with its content. Therefore shows like G1 Transformers, Samurai Jack, GIJoe, Futurama (and the rest) are all cartoons/American animation because they were made for the American people.

Now, you can throw out "anime is slang and doesnt have to mean anything", but that would be asinine. I speak slang, sure, everyone does. But Im not about to claim that any slang I do speak or hear can mean anything. Im not about to call a girl a "chick" and expect her to think Im calling her a "guy"; There are boundaries. "Anime" is a term we Americans adopted as a representation of "Japanese animation". If youre too block headed, or noobish, to know and accept this then its your loss of an education in a certain media field you enjoy.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Originally Posted by Ninja337

It doesn't matter what they say in Japan, the dictionary says anime is specifically Japanese. It isn't elitist it's just what the word means in English usage. Just because animation around the globe can't be called anime does not mean they are bad at all. Seriously this is such a fourfth grade discussion, I used to think anime meant general cartoons when I was like in elementary school. Anime is and always has been Japanese, so do not regard Tokyopop, Nickolodeon, noobs, wapanese wannabes, a supposed Japanese or any other person who may or may not know what they are talking about when they say otherwise.

The fact that you take the English dictionary seriously is just too funny. If "d'oh" made it into the English dictionary then anime is just one of those words that was slang at the time and by just merely using it over and over again it became a fixture in the English language.

And it IS slang whether you like it or not. Its just shortening a word. A shorter version of a word shouldn't even be considered a word.

Anime = cartoons. 'Nuff said.

[K' Dash]

Originally Posted by Deathscythe

The fact that you take the English dictionary seriously is just too funny. If "d'oh" made it into the English dictionary then anime is just one of those words that was slang at the time and by just merely using it over and over again it became a fixture in the English language.

And it IS slang whether you like it or not. Its just shortening a word. A shorter version of a word shouldn't even be considered a word.

Anime = cartoons. 'Nuff said.

for starters Anime=animation. animation dosent have to be cartoons, it cood be COMPUTER ANIMATED . also, isnt using new words over and over again how the dictionary aquires new words? they didnt just wake up one day and decide anime would be in the dictionary. the word or term anime is known internationally to refer to japanese animation. Dont try to make your opinion fact. Abbreviations for large words ARE in the dictionary.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Originally Posted by K' Dash

for starters Anime=animation. animation dosent have to be cartoons, it cood be COMPUTER ANIMATED . also, isnt using new words over and over again how the dictionary aquires new words? they didnt just wake up one day and decide anime would be in the dictionary. the word or term anime is known internationally to refer to japanese animation. Dont try to make your opinion fact. Abbreviations for large words ARE in the dictionary.

A cartoon is a cartoon. No matter where it comes from. Anything by Pixar is a CARTOON. Yeah, and some of those words shouldn't even make the dictionary. Thats how hilarious the English language is. Plain and simple.

But hey, whatever. Its just a term that spawned its own definition throughout the years.

I'm not trying to make my opinion fact.

[Prof.Nosebleed]

Originally Posted by Deathscythe

Yeah, and some of those words shouldn't even make the dictionary. Thats how hilarious the English language is. Plain and simple.

I believe they made "Google" an official English dictionary word.