Shoujo-ai in non anime cartoons/comics.

CBMC · June 21st, 2005, 01:18 AM

Or I guess where it'd just be called femeslash.

Batman: Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy. Pretty much the biggest one I can think of. Paul Dini, the creative force behind the animated series and the creator of Halrey Quinn, spent a nice part of his writing career promoting them as a couple. He never went super, extremely blatant with it, but you'd have to be pretty stupid not to catch on. Has been featured in both the animated universe toons and comics, aswell as the regular DC universe. Possibly my favorite pairing!

Totally Spies: Definantly some undertones and subtext written into this show. Theres a possible three way with Sam/Alex/Clover. Alex is obviously the favorite though as shown in "Alex Quits" and "Truth or Scare." Also big hints for Mandy/Sam who I think would be adorable together. There have also been a couple of obviously lesbian minor characters including the archetypal butch, Donna Ramone.

Kim Possible: Possibly Kim/Shego. I just started watching this show, so I can't say whether this is valid or not, although both are pretty cool.

Winx Club: Heard this show has big doses of lesbian subtext, but I haven't picked up on any yet. Although, I'm really not interested enough to watch this very often. The girl voiced by Lisa Ortiz is mildly amusing though with her shameless use of stock, hip hop slang.

Show with huge femeslash folowing, but no shoujo-ai:

Teen Titans: Pretty much this show is devoid of it imo. There are legions of Raven/Starfire fans, but I don't think theres any indication of a anything more than a platonic relationship in the cartoon. In the comic book possibly there is, but I don't think they'll be using the Starfire impregnates Raven story-line any time soon in the cartoon.

Does anyone have anymore?

PandaRosi · June 21st, 2005, 01:41 PM

how fun!~ really, i don't keep up with the femslash world at all... so i have only vague ideas, pleeze don't bash me. XD...

I had no idea that other people thought of Totally Spies, though i should have guessed.

.... Personally, i've never really had any pairings in mind, but i remember thinking that there were hints between a lot of the girls, despite the "boy-craziness" most of them have.. though girls like that are just /asking/ for it. ><; Alex is my favorite.... *loves her* Sam x Mandy scares me though. o_o;; i'm terrified of Mandy. ><;;;

Teen Titans.. oh, i'm a fan of the Raven x Starfire thing. ^^- i do see hints of it here and there, but it might be my mind wanting something to happen. ._.'' there was that episode where Raven and Starfire get to know more about each other when the boys all get captured by that puppet guy... ? though that can be interperated platonically with no problems.. though ever since that episode they became much closer. ^^- and come on, they were /in/ each others bodies.

;; the whole "starfire impregnates raven" scares the crap out of me though. O_O

umm. another series i thought of was WITCH.. i haven't seen much of it, and i don't know the characters very well, but thing is, they are cute... ^^; anyone have any theories and stuff here? o.o

CBMC · June 21st, 2005, 03:39 PM

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how fun!~ really, i don't keep up with the femslash world at all...

Don't worry abou it, I'm pretty new to the ish aswell.

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I had no idea that other people thought of Totally Spies, though i should have guessed. .... Personally, i've never really had any pairings in mind, but i remember thinking that there were hints between a lot of the girls, despite the "boy-craziness" most of them have.. though girls like that are just /asking/ for it. ><; Alex is my favorite.... *loves her* Sam x Mandy scares me though. o_o;; i'm terrified of Mandy. ><;;;

Oh yea, I'm a Totally Spies fiend. After watching the show for long enough you definnalty begin picking up on all the subliminal stuff in it. Sam and Mandy definantly have a thing for eachother, although it probably doesn't get pursued at all becuase it would make Clover's head explode. I love how Mandy has pet-names for her like Sammykins and Sammalissy. There was also the episode where Mandy's life was in danger and Sam went into super, frantic rescue mode. Alex is also my favorite, you can't help yourself, shes such a sweet-heart.

And some awesome screen grabs I stole from the shojo-ai.com forum.

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Teen Titans.. oh, i'm a fan of the Raven x Starfire thing. ^^- i do see hints of it here and there, but it might be my mind wanting something to happen. ._.'' there was that episode where Raven and Starfire get to know more about each other when the boys all get captured by that puppet guy... ? though that can be interperated platonically with no problems.. though ever since that episode they became much closer. ^^- and come on, they were /in/ each others bodies. ;; the whole "starfire impregnates raven" scares the crap out of me though. O_O

Haven't seen that episode, I'll look out for it.

JOlteus_K · June 21st, 2005, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CBMC

Kim Possible: Possibly Kim/Shego. I just started watching this show, so I can't say whether this is valid or not, although both are pretty cool.

I so love Kim/Shego. Oh there's this artist on devianart who's just amazing. http://rinacat.deviantart.com/
^This artist is like master of Kim/Shego fanart!

I can't think of any others beside. I know the Totally Spies fandom is huge and so is the Teen Titans. I know there's more though. I'll post back later if it comes to me.

CBMC · June 21st, 2005, 04:35 PM

Yup, Rinacat rocks. I aleady have some her art on my hard-drive.

Mr. Tines · June 21st, 2005, 04:51 PM

Promethea - Stacy and Grace are canon.

moongirl123 · June 21st, 2005, 05:33 PM

Oh I love the Totally spies and I think Sam and Alex are freaken cool together

and Starfire and Raven so sweet too

CBMC · June 22nd, 2005, 05:11 PM

Yes, Alex/Sam is a good one, definantly some moments strictly between them. That may actually be the best way to go since Clover has taken the term "boy crazy" to new extremes (theres numerous references to how ****ty she is with guys for more cartoon inuendo fun).

WinxClubLover · December 24th, 2006, 08:10 AM

none of those shows have any lesbian stuff in them especially winxclub. it has absolutely no lesbian content at all. all the girls are straight in all of those shows you mentioned

KingNe! · December 24th, 2006, 08:36 AM

I didn't really pick up on too much lesbianism in totally spies. I don't know whether it's based on a comic or nor, but cartoons like that which are aimed at younger viewers would not be allowed to have any of that. Unless its very subtle. I probably missed something. They just seemed like a close trio to me. I did really dig their relationship though. One fo the few american cartoons I love. I didn't notice any of the Mandy/Sam stuff. I havent watched every episode, so maybe I'll check it out. And Sam was perhaps the slowest to get all lusty over a boy. That was more Clover's thing (Not a fan of Clover, btw.) Mandy/Sam, sounds like an interesting pairing. Alex is adorable.

I'm also a huge fan of Joe Harley Quinn, and yes, theres a truckload of stuff to suggest her and P. Ivy were/are together. Poison Ivy is as gay as they come, and Quinno was particulary vulnerable after the Joker rejected her. Again, its really subtle in the cartoons and is a lot more blatant in the comics (they do hang out a lot too. They even appear in Static Shock together,)

America, give us more girl slash!!!

KatayokuのTenshi · December 24th, 2006, 11:14 AM

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none of those shows have any lesbian stuff in them especially winxclub. it has absolutely no lesbian content at all. all the girls are straight in all of those shows you mentioned

Did you sign up just to yell at CBMC? Nice to meet you. He said femmeslash

Soluzar · December 24th, 2006, 11:19 AM

Man. This topic just reminds me that CBMC is banned. That's not cool.

Yukito Kunisaki · December 24th, 2006, 06:13 PM

Yea...no reason to have this topic bumped back O.o. That person above must have jsut searched "Winx Club" related topics to uncover an oldie as this one >.o..

Also as I said, i hate slash anyways, American anime slash is just...so far beyond anything I could ever imagine.

EiriYuki's Girl · December 24th, 2006, 06:46 PM

I dont watch Totally Spies but I LOVE Martin Mystery lol I dont think it has shoujo ai or shonen ai but Martin loves every girl in the Universe , (( including Alien girls LOL ))

KatayokuのTenshi · December 24th, 2006, 09:26 PM

Oh bugger. Well lets all run before Deslock arrives and realy tears into us

Let it die folkls.

Just looked at CBMC's posts It's like a lesson on how to get banned.

June 21st, 2005, 01:18 AM	#1
CBMC Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northwestern Indiana Posts: 61	Shoujo-ai in non anime cartoons/comics. Or I guess where it'd just be called femeslash. Batman: Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy. Pretty much the biggest one I can think of. Paul Dini, the creative force behind the animated series and the creator of Halrey Quinn, spent a nice part of his writing career promoting them as a couple. He never went super, extremely blatant with it, but you'd have to be pretty stupid not to catch on. Has been featured in both the animated universe toons and comics, aswell as the regular DC universe. Possibly my favorite pairing! Totally Spies: Definantly some undertones and subtext written into this show. Theres a possible three way with Sam/Alex/Clover. Alex is obviously the favorite though as shown in "Alex Quits" and "Truth or Scare." Also big hints for Mandy/Sam who I think would be adorable together. There have also been a couple of obviously lesbian minor characters including the archetypal butch, Donna Ramone. Kim Possible: Possibly Kim/Shego. I just started watching this show, so I can't say whether this is valid or not, although both are pretty cool. Winx Club: Heard this show has big doses of lesbian subtext, but I haven't picked up on any yet. Although, I'm really not interested enough to watch this very often. The girl voiced by Lisa Ortiz is mildly amusing though with her shameless use of stock, hip hop slang. Show with huge femeslash folowing, but no shoujo-ai: Teen Titans: Pretty much this show is devoid of it imo. There are legions of Raven/Starfire fans, but I don't think theres any indication of a anything more than a platonic relationship in the cartoon. In the comic book possibly there is, but I don't think they'll be using the Starfire impregnates Raven story-line any time soon in the cartoon. Does anyone have anymore?

June 21st, 2005, 01:41 PM	#2
PandaRosi I'll shoot you.... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Britannia Posts: 36	how fun!~ really, i don't keep up with the femslash world at all... so i have only vague ideas, pleeze don't bash me. XD... I had no idea that other people thought of Totally Spies, though i should have guessed. .... Personally, i've never really had any pairings in mind, but i remember thinking that there were hints between a lot of the girls, despite the "boy-craziness" most of them have.. though girls like that are just /asking/ for it. ><; Alex is my favorite.... loves her Sam x Mandy scares me though. o_o;; i'm terrified of Mandy. ><;;; Teen Titans.. oh, i'm a fan of the Raven x Starfire thing. ^^- i do see hints of it here and there, but it might be my mind wanting something to happen. ._.'' there was that episode where Raven and Starfire get to know more about each other when the boys all get captured by that puppet guy... ? though that can be interperated platonically with no problems.. though ever since that episode they became much closer. ^^- and come on, they were /in/ each others bodies. ;; the whole "starfire impregnates raven" scares the crap out of me though. O_O umm. another series i thought of was WITCH.. i haven't seen much of it, and i don't know the characters very well, but thing is, they are cute... ^^; anyone have any theories and stuff here? o.o __________________ <Geass>Rolo Lamperouge; yandere shotaboy supreme <macross frontier>Ranka Lee of the prehensile hair <gundamOO>GN-X <loveless> Kouya<random> back with a vengeance? //<art>//Great Bishie War//c..cosplay?//

June 21st, 2005, 04:51 PM	#6
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December 24th, 2006, 11:19 AM	#12
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December 24th, 2006, 06:46 PM	#14
EiriYuki's Girl Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Demon World Posts: 54	I dont watch Totally Spies but I LOVE Martin Mystery lol I dont think it has shoujo ai or shonen ai but Martin loves every girl in the Universe , (( including Alien girls LOL )) __________________ Todo Academy's Senior & Its Executive Council's President Shin Natsume Is Ready To Fight I changed my mind , Now I love Shin insted of Mitsuomi I love You Liam O'Brien

June 21st, 2005, 04:35 PM	#5
CBMC Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northwestern Indiana Posts: 61	Yup, Rinacat rocks. I aleady have some her art on my hard-drive.

June 21st, 2005, 05:33 PM	#7
moongirl123 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26	Oh I love the Totally spies and I think Sam and Alex are freaken cool together and Starfire and Raven so sweet too

June 22nd, 2005, 05:11 PM	#8
CBMC Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Northwestern Indiana Posts: 61	Yes, Alex/Sam is a good one, definantly some moments strictly between them. That may actually be the best way to go since Clover has taken the term "boy crazy" to new extremes (theres numerous references to how ****ty she is with guys for more cartoon inuendo fun).

December 24th, 2006, 08:10 AM	#9
WinxClubLover Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1	none of those shows have any lesbian stuff in them especially winxclub. it has absolutely no lesbian content at all. all the girls are straight in all of those shows you mentioned

December 24th, 2006, 08:36 AM	#10
KingNe! Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 327	I didn't really pick up on too much lesbianism in totally spies. I don't know whether it's based on a comic or nor, but cartoons like that which are aimed at younger viewers would not be allowed to have any of that. Unless its very subtle. I probably missed something. They just seemed like a close trio to me. I did really dig their relationship though. One fo the few american cartoons I love. I didn't notice any of the Mandy/Sam stuff. I havent watched every episode, so maybe I'll check it out. And Sam was perhaps the slowest to get all lusty over a boy. That was more Clover's thing (Not a fan of Clover, btw.) Mandy/Sam, sounds like an interesting pairing. Alex is adorable. I'm also a huge fan of Joe Harley Quinn, and yes, theres a truckload of stuff to suggest her and P. Ivy were/are together. Poison Ivy is as gay as they come, and Quinno was particulary vulnerable after the Joker rejected her. Again, its really subtle in the cartoons and is a lot more blatant in the comics (they do hang out a lot too. They even appear in Static Shock together,) America, give us more girl slash!!!

December 24th, 2006, 06:13 PM	#13
Yukito Kunisaki Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,890	Yea...no reason to have this topic bumped back O.o. That person above must have jsut searched "Winx Club" related topics to uncover an oldie as this one >.o.. Also as I said, i hate slash anyways, American anime slash is just...so far beyond anything I could ever imagine.

December 24th, 2006, 09:26 PM	#15
KatayokuのTenshi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Furinkan High School Posts: 5,153	Oh bugger. Well lets all run before Deslock arrives and realy tears into us Let it die folkls. Just looked at CBMC's posts It's like a lesson on how to get banned. __________________ For the stronger we our houses do build, The less chance we have of being killed. -William Topaz McGonagall Last edited by KatayokuのTenshi; December 24th, 2006 at 09:49 PM.