Seikai Trilogy - how is it?

Crazy Penguin · August 30th, 2004, 04:54 AM

http://www.tokyopop.com/dbpage.php?p...tegorycode=BMG

Is it good? Bad? Dull? I'm a fan of the artist, but this all seems rather generic from the preview images and synopsis.

Animal4890 · October 9th, 2004, 12:22 AM

I've seen the anime and adored every second of it. I liked how the story and the characters were presented, both of which were deep and well developed. The graphic quality of the anime is above average, but nothing too spectacular. The music is ok, although the voice actors are excellent I thought. I've not read the manga, but I hear it's not as good as the anime. Overall, the anime is normaly highly rated and appraised.

Keldran · October 9th, 2004, 12:45 AM

Story wise the anime and manga are essentially the same but the manga condenses the material into a much smaller space than the anime manages. What can take an entire episode in the anime can be over in about 5 pages in the manga, but that has more to do with the anime's tendency to hold shots for dramatic purposes.

Overall I'd prefer the anime over the manga due to the actual impact hearing the abh language has on your experience, but make no mistake that both the anime and the manga are very good and much better than your average anime or manga. No matter how the art in the manga really looks the novel source material is so good that the artist has to try really hard to ruin the remarkable story.

rainking187 · October 9th, 2004, 02:11 AM

I really liked the manga, but I was thrown off because there's a completely different artist for Banner of the Stars II. I couldn't buy it because of that, the art style looks so different, I think the first two looked better.

Frank Castle · October 9th, 2004, 07:54 AM

I Loved The Anime, Great Achievement. I'll Try To Get The Comic Soon

Malchiel · October 10th, 2004, 10:41 AM

Love it! this is how all manga should be.

The love story is believable. The characters are not your typical heroes or heroines. They lack super power or anything of that nature, but they help each other out.

The politics is tense, and complicated. Rights and wrong are not easily seen.

This is a mature series. Which manages to be very entertaining while being serious at the same time.

greg · July 29th, 2006, 09:09 AM

I picked up vol.1 of the manga at a used bookstore because it looked interesting. I'm halfway through this now and I really like this book. This is a decent space opera, and I love the art. My only gripe is the constant usage of the alien words. I'm relieved that there is a glossary of terms in the back of the book. I've read Tolkein, but constantly flipping to the glossary and reading this manga is more like trying to understand my wife's Furby doll. Overuse of such words that can be easily replaced with common English words is a no-no according to Orson Scott Card's "How to Write Science Fiction and Fantasy."

I didn't know there was an anime of this show until last night when I saw a used copy of the second DVD at the same bookstore. I think I'd like to read all the manga first before watching this show.

yangster · July 29th, 2006, 06:42 PM

If you like the manga and the series then you would probably be interested in the original novel. Both the manga and the TV series was based on this novel series. Check it out! vol. 1 coming out on Sept. 12.

Ok, when I re-read what I just wrote, I didn't try make it sound like advertisement. Anyways, I do recommend checking out the original novels which everything was based on.

greg · August 10th, 2006, 03:13 PM

I just finished volume 3 of the Seikai Trilogy manga! I will now start watching the anime and I will definitely be buying the second and third series of the anime as well as the novels.

This has quickly become one of my favorite series. Space opera seems to be so rare these days in anime/manga. The story is fantastic, and the designs of the space ships are awesome! I was hoping that there would be plastic models of the ships, but they only have expensive garage kits. I found the auctions for these here and here.

There is also a Playstation game.

I wish that they did not change artists for the third manga, because I liked the art of the first artist better. The characters looked less detailed, but they were more charming. The art in the third manga reminds me more of the manga for girls' comics.

Ashitaka · August 11th, 2006, 05:42 PM

Ive got the first and third series in the trillogy........
nearly watched them to death. i love this show, its something about the charicters that i really like. I highly reccommend this show to anyone and everyone

greg · August 23rd, 2006, 10:22 PM

I've joined a forum dedicated to the Seikai Trilogy and covers the original SF books, manga, anime, video games, merchandising, etc. There's even a fourth anime series that has yet to be released in America yet.
http://www.abhnation.com/

ransom · August 24th, 2006, 09:17 AM

Theres something about that site's elitist attitude that really bugs me.

I remember one of the sites main members bleating some bleeding heart story on the tokyopop forums when they licensed the novels.

Pass.

greg · August 28th, 2006, 12:56 PM

Yeah, it must be the same person who recently mentioned in the thread about the manga on that forum that he has a "burning hatred against Tokyopop." I asked him why, but he never repsonded. Do you remember what his beef with the publisher was? I love Tokyopop, actually.

ransom · August 29th, 2006, 06:00 AM

Can't recall - these may not be the same people, but the Abhnation guy started a HUGE thread in the wake of the licensing of the Seikai novels (which are out today I believe). This wasn't long after the tokyopop boards were up. It was probably the biggest rant/flame thread there at the time. So there is a good possibility they could have been the same person. If you were a Seikai fan & were reading TP boards, you wouldn't have missed that thread.

I think his main beef was that he didn't believe that Tokyopop could produce a quality translation of the novel. He was arrogantly dismissive about it. And then went on a tangent with a bleeding heart story about Seikai fandom being in decline anyway (judgenemt based exclusively on number of new signups on AbhNation! - nice circular argument). He went on about how critical the Barohn (Abh Language) was to the success of the novel, how he felt that Tokyopop wouldn't be able to do it right, but it was Okay to use their Barohn glossary. (Unsolicited contributions anyone? Legally, tokyopop can't even read that thing for fear of being accused of plagiarism - they must license it without seeing it, or come up with their own - like the version at the backs of the Seikai manga). Personally I thought that the Barohn got in the way in the manga (I believe that inventing your own language is a complete no-no in written fiction).

That guy is just such an ***.

Seikai fandom in decline? Bah! There's a new generation of fans back where I am from, where Crest of the Stars was released for the first time recently. Some of us hardcore fans have had the first bandai boxsets for years of course, but local anime forums are filling up with Seikai fandom now.

August 30th, 2004, 04:54 AM	#1
Crazy Penguin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 30	Seikai Trilogy - how is it? http://www.tokyopop.com/dbpage.php?p...tegorycode=BMG Is it good? Bad? Dull? I'm a fan of the artist, but this all seems rather generic from the preview images and synopsis.

October 9th, 2004, 12:45 AM	#3
Keldran Now with 20% more sodium! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Avatar? Took long enough... Posts: 50	Story wise the anime and manga are essentially the same but the manga condenses the material into a much smaller space than the anime manages. What can take an entire episode in the anime can be over in about 5 pages in the manga, but that has more to do with the anime's tendency to hold shots for dramatic purposes. Overall I'd prefer the anime over the manga due to the actual impact hearing the abh language has on your experience, but make no mistake that both the anime and the manga are very good and much better than your average anime or manga. No matter how the art in the manga really looks the novel source material is so good that the artist has to try really hard to ruin the remarkable story. __________________ Lather, Rinse, Repeat O o o h . . . c o l o r s

October 9th, 2004, 07:54 AM	#5
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July 29th, 2006, 09:09 AM	#7
greg '70s and '80s anime fan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shizuoka-ken, Japan Posts: 744	I picked up vol.1 of the manga at a used bookstore because it looked interesting. I'm halfway through this now and I really like this book. This is a decent space opera, and I love the art. My only gripe is the constant usage of the alien words. I'm relieved that there is a glossary of terms in the back of the book. I've read Tolkein, but constantly flipping to the glossary and reading this manga is more like trying to understand my wife's Furby doll. Overuse of such words that can be easily replaced with common English words is a no-no according to Orson Scott Card's "How to Write Science Fiction and Fantasy." I didn't know there was an anime of this show until last night when I saw a used copy of the second DVD at the same bookstore. I think I'd like to read all the manga first before watching this show. __________________ The Anime Past Forum: dedicated to oldschool anime fans who remember the golden age of anime fandom before the boom era.

July 29th, 2006, 06:42 PM	#8
yangster <---smile for the camera Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: FL Posts: 386	If you like the manga and the series then you would probably be interested in the original novel. Both the manga and the TV series was based on this novel series. Check it out! vol. 1 coming out on Sept. 12. Ok, when I re-read what I just wrote, I didn't try make it sound like advertisement. Anyways, I do recommend checking out the original novels which everything was based on. __________________ I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile. Romans 1:16

October 9th, 2004, 12:22 AM	#2
Animal4890 mark of inanity Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3	I've seen the anime and adored every second of it. I liked how the story and the characters were presented, both of which were deep and well developed. The graphic quality of the anime is above average, but nothing too spectacular. The music is ok, although the voice actors are excellent I thought. I've not read the manga, but I hear it's not as good as the anime. Overall, the anime is normaly highly rated and appraised.

October 9th, 2004, 02:11 AM	#4
rainking187 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 8	I really liked the manga, but I was thrown off because there's a completely different artist for Banner of the Stars II. I couldn't buy it because of that, the art style looks so different, I think the first two looked better.

October 10th, 2004, 10:41 AM	#6
Malchiel The Official Eva Hater Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 213	Love it! this is how all manga should be. The love story is believable. The characters are not your typical heroes or heroines. They lack super power or anything of that nature, but they help each other out. The politics is tense, and complicated. Rights and wrong are not easily seen. This is a mature series. Which manages to be very entertaining while being serious at the same time.

August 10th, 2006, 03:13 PM	#9
greg '70s and '80s anime fan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shizuoka-ken, Japan Posts: 744	I just finished volume 3 of the Seikai Trilogy manga! I will now start watching the anime and I will definitely be buying the second and third series of the anime as well as the novels. This has quickly become one of my favorite series. Space opera seems to be so rare these days in anime/manga. The story is fantastic, and the designs of the space ships are awesome! I was hoping that there would be plastic models of the ships, but they only have expensive garage kits. I found the auctions for these here and here. There is also a Playstation game. I wish that they did not change artists for the third manga, because I liked the art of the first artist better. The characters looked less detailed, but they were more charming. The art in the third manga reminds me more of the manga for girls' comics. __________________ The Anime Past Forum: dedicated to oldschool anime fans who remember the golden age of anime fandom before the boom era.

August 11th, 2006, 05:42 PM	#10
Ashitaka dot hacker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Navigating Cyberspace Posts: 29	Ive got the first and third series in the trillogy........ nearly watched them to death. i love this show, its something about the charicters that i really like. I highly reccommend this show to anyone and everyone __________________ HACK THE PLANET!!!!! Not even Norton can protect you (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") Fight The Revolution!

August 23rd, 2006, 10:22 PM	#11
greg '70s and '80s anime fan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shizuoka-ken, Japan Posts: 744	I've joined a forum dedicated to the Seikai Trilogy and covers the original SF books, manga, anime, video games, merchandising, etc. There's even a fourth anime series that has yet to be released in America yet. http://www.abhnation.com/ __________________ The Anime Past Forum: dedicated to oldschool anime fans who remember the golden age of anime fandom before the boom era.

August 24th, 2006, 09:17 AM	#12
ransom Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 67	Theres something about that site's elitist attitude that really bugs me. I remember one of the sites main members bleating some bleeding heart story on the tokyopop forums when they licensed the novels. Pass.

August 28th, 2006, 12:56 PM	#13
greg '70s and '80s anime fan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shizuoka-ken, Japan Posts: 744	Yeah, it must be the same person who recently mentioned in the thread about the manga on that forum that he has a "burning hatred against Tokyopop." I asked him why, but he never repsonded. Do you remember what his beef with the publisher was? I love Tokyopop, actually. __________________ The Anime Past Forum: dedicated to oldschool anime fans who remember the golden age of anime fandom before the boom era.

August 29th, 2006, 06:00 AM	#14
ransom Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 67	Can't recall - these may not be the same people, but the Abhnation guy started a HUGE thread in the wake of the licensing of the Seikai novels (which are out today I believe). This wasn't long after the tokyopop boards were up. It was probably the biggest rant/flame thread there at the time. So there is a good possibility they could have been the same person. If you were a Seikai fan & were reading TP boards, you wouldn't have missed that thread. I think his main beef was that he didn't believe that Tokyopop could produce a quality translation of the novel. He was arrogantly dismissive about it. And then went on a tangent with a bleeding heart story about Seikai fandom being in decline anyway (judgenemt based exclusively on number of new signups on AbhNation! - nice circular argument). He went on about how critical the Barohn (Abh Language) was to the success of the novel, how he felt that Tokyopop wouldn't be able to do it right, but it was Okay to use their Barohn glossary. (Unsolicited contributions anyone? Legally, tokyopop can't even read that thing for fear of being accused of plagiarism - they must license it without seeing it, or come up with their own - like the version at the backs of the Seikai manga). Personally I thought that the Barohn got in the way in the manga (I believe that inventing your own language is a complete no-no in written fiction). That guy is just such an ***. Seikai fandom in decline? Bah! There's a new generation of fans back where I am from, where Crest of the Stars was released for the first time recently. Some of us hardcore fans have had the first bandai boxsets for years of course, but local anime forums are filling up with Seikai fandom now.