Heaven or Hell! - Fighter Central

**Holy Knight** · March 11th, 2011, 12:01 PM

What with all the FG discussions spawning recently, this thread should only be appropriate.

First, a link to the previous thread: Link

The purpose of this thread is a bit different, however. Where the previous one was centered on vids, I wish for this one to be more about information and knowledge, though vids are certainly welcome! If you have a question or wish to strike up a debate, go ahead!

I have experience with most of the better-known 2D titles, though I specialize in Guilty Gear and Blazblue. I manage top 8 at local and city-wide tournaments, so while I'm not a top player, I don't do badly either.

Discuss!

Resource links:

SRK for SF/MvC3 discussion. It is the FG Mecca for NA players.

Dustloop if you're inclined to ASW games.

Melty Bread for Melty Blood players.

earsofdoom · March 11th, 2011, 12:31 PM

Good luck holykinght, i hope you accomplish what sendo and I failed to do 3 years ago. also you might want to add a king of fighters link, i know the latest games was terribad but the older version's are still going strong.

Vaikyuko · March 11th, 2011, 12:34 PM

HK, any word on BBCS2 coming to America, since it supposedly had more story stuff, or is that just going to be the DLC characters and that's all?

Granted, I don't know if it actually did have any more story stuff but BB's story is one of the more well written ones I've ever seen in gaming let alone FGs so yeah.

Oh, and is Platinum out yet?

**Holy Knight** · March 11th, 2011, 12:35 PM

I'd have added a link to KOF, but I'm not aware of its main go-to place. If you know of it, I'd be glad to put it up with the rest.

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Originally Posted by Vaikyuko

HK, any word on BBCS2 coming to America, since it supposedly had more story stuff, or is that just going to be the DLC characters and that's all?

Granted, I don't know if it actually did have any more story stuff but BB's story is one of the more well written ones I've ever seen in gaming let alone FGs so yeah.

Oh, and is Platinum out yet?

CS2 is coming to America, though we don't know when yet. The PSP and DS version will be out in a month or so, but no word for consoles. Platinum is expected to come with it as a DLC.

Yes, the story continues in CS2 and should wrap up the events started in CS by fleshing out the new character's backstory.

Note: CS2 is expected to be a free patch, but this could change.

Gameplay-wise, CS2 has a couple notable tweaks that tighten the tiers, lower damage across the board, and cause you to have to think more when playing. It is generally considered a good gameplay upgrade to CS unless your character was nerfed (they neutered Haku

).

lav2k4 · March 11th, 2011, 12:45 PM

Games to look forward to:

and

Skulls Girls is a game that is made by Autumn Games along side Mike Z, a well known Tager player in the US. It's gonna be a $10-$15 fighter coming out in the summer. The game is more influenced by Darkstalkers, Marvel, Melty Blood. The game has a lot of depth, and a lot of mechanics, and code that goes beyond Capcom fighting games. Anti infinite mechanics, programmable assist feature (do an input in the program section, and the assist will do that input). Due out Summer

Arcana Heart 3 is gonna be a PSN only release due out this Spring. Gonna have BB quality online, so this one will be worth picking up.

**Holy Knight** · March 11th, 2011, 12:56 PM

Oh yeah, definitely looking forward to Skull Girls. MikeZ sometimes pops in Dustloop to talk about what he does, and his stuff makes us hardcore players drool because it's simply the smart mechanic to put in a fighter. It looks great in motion, too. I think the design is also great, but this one is a love-it-or-hate-it for most.

Extended interview for a better look: (1), (2)

As for AH3, I've played a bit, and it's not really my kind of fighter. It controls weirdly (though not badly!) and I'm not a fan of the design. However, it's noted for its depth and wide range of customizability though I can only support the customization part since I didn't invest much into it. For intermediate to advanced players.

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Extra goodie: one of the flashiest combo movies (Blazblue) I've laid eyes on. Lush makes some top-tier stuff.

earsofdoom · March 11th, 2011, 01:14 PM

To be honest i don't know were the KOF crowd congregates these day's, current release's have not been kind to that series and i've gradually left the scene. I still lol to this day over the 3d KOF game. (honestly no game has survived the 2d to 3d mechanic switch, did you think you were any different KOF?)

CanisWolfred · March 11th, 2011, 02:10 PM

I was excited to see this thread until I remembered that there are some serious fighting fans here, where as I'm a very casual fan who only has enough patience to learn the moves and maybe beat the boss on normal. Though Perhaps I can learn a thing or two here.

With that said, I look forward to getting my butt handed to me in Skullgirls and Arcana Heart 3!<3 They look sooo awesome! I gotta get a PS3 first of course, but I'm working on that.

lav2k4 · March 11th, 2011, 02:23 PM

Don't worry if you play it casually. I play very casually, and the only game I ever put a lot of hours into is ST. I know a lot about the games, but I barely play them. I wish I could put in a lot time in MVC3, but having no one to play with offline is kinda meh. I just rater play other genres because online in fighters feel like 1996 PC circa.

**Holy Knight** · March 11th, 2011, 02:23 PM

^^ Any level of discussion is perfectly welcome! Don't be daunted just because someone knows more than you do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lav2k4

Don't worry if you play it casually. I play very casually, and the only game I ever put a lot of hours into is ST. I know a lot about the games, but I barely play them. I wish I could put in a lot time in MVC3, but having no one to play with offline is kinda meh. I just rater play other genres because online in fighters feel like 1996 PC circa.

I thought the Philly scene was a good one? I'm pretty sure there's players around there.

earsofdoom · March 11th, 2011, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lav2k4

Don't worry if you play it casually. I play very casually, and the only game I ever put a lot of hours into is ST. I know a lot about the games, but I barely play them. I wish I could put in a lot time in MVC3, but having no one to play with offline is kinda meh. I just rater play other genres because online in fighters feel like 1996 PC circa.

I don't even bother playing blazblue online, sure i might only lag by a few frame's but those few frames are the difference between by combo connecting and whiffing.

lav2k4 · March 11th, 2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holy Knight

I thought the Philly scene was a good one? I'm pretty sure there's players around there.

Not interested honestly. I don't play fighters enough to care. Even when CS, and Quake was big, I didn't bother seeking locals. I'm strictly online. It's nice when you can play offline, but I don't go out of my way to find those things.

Vaikyuko · March 11th, 2011, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickeymac92

I was excited to see this thread until I remembered that there are some serious fighting fans here, where as I'm a very casual fan who only has enough patience to learn the moves and maybe beat the boss on normal. Though Perhaps I can learn a thing or two here.

With that said, I look forward to getting my butt handed to me in Skullgirls and Arcana Heart 3!<3 They look sooo awesome! I gotta get a PS3 first of course, but I'm working on that.

Hey, no worries. I'm pretty casual too though I'm trying to get good enough to actually fight competitive people at a not-raped-instantly level. I also pretty much only play BlazBlue.

@topic: I do like the look of Skullgirls but I don't really know a whole lot about it. That's the one with only palette swaps of one character (and thus no tiers and perfect balance), right?

Definitely am staying away from Arcana Heart -- the previous iteration(s) were enough to convince me it's too technical for me, plus the trophies look really difficult to boot.

lav2k4 · March 11th, 2011, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vaikyuko

@topic: I do like the look of Skullgirls but I don't really know a whole lot about it. That's the one with only palette swaps of one character (and thus no tiers and perfect balance), right?

Nope. All unique characters.

CanisWolfred · March 11th, 2011, 04:13 PM

Ah, well that makes me feel better. These days I mostly play King of Fighters, though I do have most well-known fighters, including BlazBlue, Guilty Gear (Latest version at least, played the hell out of #Reload), Street Fighter, Tekken, etc. As well as some unknowns like Neo Geo Battle Coliseum. As I said, I'm a pretty casual player, though I used to be pretty serious when I had MAME, playing many fighters non-stop until I realized it was illegal. Kinda sucks because now that I own most of the worthwhile games I played on disk, I can't get into them like I used to.

Has anyone here played Fate/Unlimited Codes? I doubt anyone has because it's portable only. I just got it, and it's been fun so far, though controls are weird, I'm still getting used to it. Also, the AI is so **** stupid it's not even fun. I actually had to turn up the difficulty and I just started playing it.

Also, since there's no KOF thing yet, does anybody know some good combos for Terry Bogard in KOF? He's my fave, so I'll always be playing as him, though I still can't remember how to be good with him.

March 11th, 2011, 12:01 PM	#1
Holy Knight The Vampiric Knight Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,320 Blog Entries: 5	Heaven or Hell! - Fighter Central What with all the FG discussions spawning recently, this thread should only be appropriate. First, a link to the previous thread: Link The purpose of this thread is a bit different, however. Where the previous one was centered on vids, I wish for this one to be more about information and knowledge, though vids are certainly welcome! If you have a question or wish to strike up a debate, go ahead! I have experience with most of the better-known 2D titles, though I specialize in Guilty Gear and Blazblue. I manage top 8 at local and city-wide tournaments, so while I'm not a top player, I don't do badly either. Discuss! Resource links: SRK for SF/MvC3 discussion. It is the FG Mecca for NA players. Dustloop if you're inclined to ASW games. Melty Bread for Melty Blood players. __________________ Young riders choose a destination. Old riders choose a direction. ~Proverb

March 11th, 2011, 12:34 PM	#3
Vaikyuko The Watcher Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Empire. Posts: 11,786 Blog Entries: 2	HK, any word on BBCS2 coming to America, since it supposedly had more story stuff, or is that just going to be the DLC characters and that's all? Granted, I don't know if it actually did have any more story stuff but BB's story is one of the more well written ones I've ever seen in gaming let alone FGs so yeah. Oh, and is Platinum out yet? __________________ Blog\|DVDs\|Games\|Anime\|Movies\|Comics Current Avatar: Zero, Drakengard 3 "The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam," ministry official Tsutomu Shimomura said.

March 11th, 2011, 12:45 PM	#5
lav2k4 Tensai Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 5,586	Games to look forward to: and Skulls Girls is a game that is made by Autumn Games along side Mike Z, a well known Tager player in the US. It's gonna be a $10-$15 fighter coming out in the summer. The game is more influenced by Darkstalkers, Marvel, Melty Blood. The game has a lot of depth, and a lot of mechanics, and code that goes beyond Capcom fighting games. Anti infinite mechanics, programmable assist feature (do an input in the program section, and the assist will do that input). Due out Summer Arcana Heart 3 is gonna be a PSN only release due out this Spring. Gonna have BB quality online, so this one will be worth picking up. Last edited by lav2k4; March 11th, 2011 at 12:54 PM.

March 11th, 2011, 12:56 PM	#6
Holy Knight The Vampiric Knight Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,320 Blog Entries: 5	Oh yeah, definitely looking forward to Skull Girls. MikeZ sometimes pops in Dustloop to talk about what he does, and his stuff makes us hardcore players drool because it's simply the smart mechanic to put in a fighter. It looks great in motion, too. I think the design is also great, but this one is a love-it-or-hate-it for most. Extended interview for a better look: (1), (2) As for AH3, I've played a bit, and it's not really my kind of fighter. It controls weirdly (though not badly!) and I'm not a fan of the design. However, it's noted for its depth and wide range of customizability though I can only support the customization part since I didn't invest much into it. For intermediate to advanced players. ----- Extra goodie: one of the flashiest combo movies (Blazblue) I've laid eyes on. Lush makes some top-tier stuff. __________________ Young riders choose a destination. Old riders choose a direction. ~Proverb Last edited by Holy Knight; March 11th, 2011 at 01:23 PM.

March 11th, 2011, 01:14 PM	#7
earsofdoom Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,390	To be honest i don't know were the KOF crowd congregates these day's, current release's have not been kind to that series and i've gradually left the scene. I still lol to this day over the 3d KOF game. (honestly no game has survived the 2d to 3d mechanic switch, did you think you were any different KOF?) Last edited by earsofdoom; March 11th, 2011 at 01:18 PM.

March 11th, 2011, 12:31 PM	#2
earsofdoom Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,390	Good luck holykinght, i hope you accomplish what sendo and I failed to do 3 years ago. also you might want to add a king of fighters link, i know the latest games was terribad but the older version's are still going strong.

March 11th, 2011, 02:10 PM	#8
CanisWolfred Big Bad Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bad End Kingdom Posts: 1,452	I was excited to see this thread until I remembered that there are some serious fighting fans here, where as I'm a very casual fan who only has enough patience to learn the moves and maybe beat the boss on normal. Though Perhaps I can learn a thing or two here. With that said, I look forward to getting my butt handed to me in Skullgirls and Arcana Heart 3!<3 They look sooo awesome! I gotta get a PS3 first of course, but I'm working on that. __________________ My hobbies consist of breaking the laws of physics and eating pizza. Although they are practically the same thing... Arooo~ Last edited by CanisWolfred; March 11th, 2011 at 02:25 PM.

March 11th, 2011, 02:23 PM	#9
lav2k4 Tensai Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 5,586	Don't worry if you play it casually. I play very casually, and the only game I ever put a lot of hours into is ST. I know a lot about the games, but I barely play them. I wish I could put in a lot time in MVC3, but having no one to play with offline is kinda meh. I just rater play other genres because online in fighters feel like 1996 PC circa.

March 11th, 2011, 04:13 PM	#15
CanisWolfred Big Bad Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bad End Kingdom Posts: 1,452	Ah, well that makes me feel better. These days I mostly play King of Fighters, though I do have most well-known fighters, including BlazBlue, Guilty Gear (Latest version at least, played the hell out of #Reload), Street Fighter, Tekken, etc. As well as some unknowns like Neo Geo Battle Coliseum. As I said, I'm a pretty casual player, though I used to be pretty serious when I had MAME, playing many fighters non-stop until I realized it was illegal. Kinda sucks because now that I own most of the worthwhile games I played on disk, I can't get into them like I used to. Has anyone here played Fate/Unlimited Codes? I doubt anyone has because it's portable only. I just got it, and it's been fun so far, though controls are weird, I'm still getting used to it. Also, the AI is so **** stupid it's not even fun. I actually had to turn up the difficulty and I just started playing it. Also, since there's no KOF thing yet, does anybody know some good combos for Terry Bogard in KOF? He's my fave, so I'll always be playing as him, though I still can't remember how to be good with him. __________________ My hobbies consist of breaking the laws of physics and eating pizza. Although they are practically the same thing... Arooo~ Last edited by CanisWolfred; March 11th, 2011 at 04:15 PM.