Info request.

[lord_jinnai]

Ok thanx to my game I am getting realy interested in gundam.
but there is so much to catch up on and watch and read and collect....

anyway... Is the guy with the long blond hair with the big bad sunglasses an ace or something? He seems to be one of the best pilots I have!

this guy named Jude is he good or is it the gundamzz? all my other robots are fighting one on one and barely living, but he is taking on three enemies at a time and hardely getting hurt! Is he human?

[j_wong00]

Originally posted by lord_jinnai
Ok thanx to my game I am getting realy interested in gundam.
but there is so much to catch up on and watch and read and collect....

anyway... Is the guy with the long blond hair with the big bad sunglasses an ace or something? He seems to be one of the best pilots I have!

this guy named Jude is he good or is it the gundamzz? all my other robots are fighting one on one and barely living, but he is taking on three enemies at a time and hardely getting hurt! Is he human?

The guy with the sunglasses sounds like Quattro Bagina, and yes he is an ace pilot, among other things.
People, don't spoil it by telling him who he is.

Jude, or should I say Judau? Is the main character in double Zeta.
At the beginning of ZZ, it's a bit silly as it's suppose to be a comedy, but does get serios as the show goes on.

[Manathern]

Originally posted by lord_jinnai
Ok thanx to my game I am getting realy interested in gundam.
but there is so much to catch up on and watch and read and collect....

anyway... Is the guy with the long blond hair with the big bad sunglasses an ace or something? He seems to be one of the best pilots I have!

this guy named Jude is he good or is it the gundamzz? all my other robots are fighting one on one and barely living, but he is taking on three enemies at a time and hardely getting hurt! Is he human?
Fist queation : I wont spoil it either! :p

Second Question:
Judeau is and is not human... Well he is a newtype and a realy powerfull one. Newtypes are bassicly peoples with psychic power, or more evolved human.
And it is also becasue of the ZZ Gundam, this suit realy pack a hell of a punch fire power wise.

[lord_jinnai]

Ok I now know who the guy with the glasses is. Is he the "red comet"? what is he doing on the earth side?

and why are the titans such jerks? I haven't made it that far into the anime to have seen jude yet but I was supprised that amuro and quattro met outside the gundam mk2.... kinda strange... what would you say in a situation like that?

[Gato]

in order:

Watch the Mobile Suit Gundam Movie Boxset.
Watch Zeta Gundam
Watch ZZ Gundam
Watch Chars Counter Attack.

by the looks of It I think you have seen original gundam, sooo
Watch all of Zeta Gundam, You wont regret it.

[Levon]

Originally posted by lord_jinnai
Ok I now know who the guy with the glasses is. Is he the "red comet"? what is he doing on the earth side?

and why are the titans such jerks? I haven't made it that far into the anime to have seen jude yet but I was supprised that amuro and quattro met outside the gundam mk2.... kinda strange... what would you say in a situation like that?

Char Aznable. He isnt on the Earth side. He is on a group called the AEUG in Zeta Gundam, along with Amuro Ray(his rival in MSG & CCA), Camille and other ex-Feds & Zeon's pissed off at the Titans:P He is on the Zeon's side is the original and in Char's Counterattack his on the Neo Zeon(the leader of that army).

He has three names & 1 nick name(the Red Comet)! Casval Rem Deikun is his real name but then he changes it to Char Aznable to join the Zeon & get revenge for his fathers death who was the original Zeon leader. He also wears a mask. He doesn't want the Zabi's or anyone to find out intil the very end of there death. He then changed his name to Quattro Bagina in Zeta, he thinks of himself as a diffrent person than Char in Zeta.

He is by far my favorite character in any anime.

UC Gundam is a complex war story. It changes from feds being good guys to bad guys that created the Titans. Zeon's arn't really bad, the Zabi's made it that way but they all(99% anyway) died(thanks to Char).

[Levon]

Originally posted by Gato
by the looks of It I think you have seen original gundam, sooo
Watch all of Zeta Gundam, You wont regret it.

True but only way to watch it is to download eps or buy the bootleg until it comes out on R1 DVD a while from now.

Does the bootleg have as bad subs as the ones you can download? I don't mean bad as in words messed up like Jion instead of Zeon. I have a hard time reading the white subs(with chinese at the bottom) on some 40mb files. The yellow ones were much more easy to read even the 40mb ones.

[j_wong00]

Originally posted by levon
True but only way to watch it is to download eps or buy the bootleg until it comes out on R1 DVD a while from now.

Does the bootleg have as bad subs as the ones you can download? I don't mean bad as in words messed up like Jion instead of Zeon. I have a hard time reading the white subs(with chinese at the bottom) on some 40mb files. The yellow ones were much more easy to read even the 40mb ones.

Note that the Zeta boxed set IS comming out 1st quater of 2004.

As for the bootlegs, I don't own them, but have seen them, and can tell you it starts out ok, but grows steadily worse as the show continues (my theory is the lack of fansub scripts after eps. 28), to the point where you can post them on engrish.com.

[Gato]

The Zeta Bootleg set that is the one everyone talks about has bad subs in some of the discs.


Now ZZ, The one I have which is from a different Pirating Company, has Excellent Subtitles [the only messed up parts is names of things like ships and people]. The company that made the Zeta Bootleg I mentioned also makes a ZZ bootleg with horrible subbing.

but I do not support buying a bootleg of Zeta now that it is a licsened series in the U.S.

[Levon]

Originally posted by j_wong00
Note that the Zeta boxed set IS comming out 1st quater of 2004.

As for the bootlegs, I don't own them, but have seen them, and can tell you it starts out ok, but grows steadily worse as the show continues (my theory is the lack of fansub scripts after eps. 28), to the point where you can post them on engrish.com.


I thought I heard rumors it was coming out in March.


Dumb crappy subs:hmph: I'll just wait for the R1 box set to watch the rest. I can't enjoy the show that good anymore with bad subs like those.

[lord_jinnai]

when I first started playing super robot wars I was like ... who is this guy? does he think those glasses help see in space? and what is with that gold suit? does he want to stand out?

but after playing with him a few rounds I realized that he is realy good and mabey deserves to wear those glasses. He almost never got hit but He didnt always hit either. he was good enough to keep most of the enemy occupied while the rest of my robots went after the boss. pretty cool. way to go quattro.

[bennator0]

does he want to stand out?

Actually, he <i>does</i> want to stand out, sort of a taunt to the Titans. He specifically ordered it to be painted shiny gold.

[Sharp-kun]

Originally posted by lord_jinnai
when I first started playing super robot wars I was like ... who is this guy? does he think those glasses help see in space? and what is with that gold suit? does he want to stand out?

but after playing with him a few rounds I realized that he is realy good and mabey deserves to wear those glasses. He almost never got hit but He didnt always hit either. he was good enough to keep most of the enemy occupied while the rest of my robots went after the boss. pretty cool. way to go quattro.
Make sure you get him the Sazabi. :)

[lord_jinnai]

man am I bummed.:complain: I just finnishe zetta gundam today and yes I am in love. but I gotta hate haman kan and the siccoro guy who just had to take kamiyu's mind with him when he finaly kicked it.
is it my imagination or is quattro weakerin this show than in the first series?

but on the plus side I finaly understand one of the or... many of the moves that kamiyu can do in my game.
he 'charges' the zetter and transforms into a plane that has a pink aura and charges into the enemy
his beam sword streaches and more damage than usual.
:crush:
well I start zz gundam today. wish me luck.

[ShadowSonic]

Quattro isn't really weaker, it's just that by Zeta there were more Newtypes around (Scirocco, Haman, Camille) and the tech they used was more advanced.

[pchan711]

Yeah, Quatro(Char) was not weaker in Zeta it's just that Sirrocco was an INCREDIBLY powerful newtype as was Haman, they also had some of the most powerful mobile suits at their disposal. Not that the Hyaku Shiki was weak or anything but it couldn't compair to the Messalla, the Quebeley, and certainly not The-O.

[j_wong00]

The Hyaku Shiki, while a great mech in it's own right, was however obsolete (much like the majority of mechs then) by the end of the series, and it was only Quattro's skills and abilities that kept it going for as long as it did.

But, when pitted against The O, and Quebeley, it was simply outclassed. Personally, I think he did a great job against Haman for that length of time.

[lord_jinnai]

while I am finished with zetter gundam I still have one question.. but I dont know how to ask it.... but here goes..

siccoro somehow put himself in other peoples minds... as I understand it. was he directly manipulating the womens minds or blocking thier memories or made a mental link with them? what was he doing to thier minds?

[lord_jinnai]

question number 2.
in my super robot wars games. both of them have a gundam pilot named Ko. just that... Ko. when he goes into attack or defend mode there is no flash of light that goes arcross his head like with amuro quattro jude or kamiyu. (sp?) Isnt he a new type? if not then why is he a better pilot than my quattro? (thier levels are about the same.)

ok and a last question. all the other characters in both games make referance to ko eating carrots and tease him about it. what is that about?

thanks ahead of time.

[j_wong00]

1)
Scirocco is an unbelievably powerfull Newtype, and could do things other Newtypes couldn't, or tried.

2)
Kou is NOT a Newtype, however, he's not a bad pilot either.
Quattro may have the same stats, but has better "abilities", and I'm not talking about the ones using your magic/psychic points.
Quattro, most importantly, has the "Newtype" ability, which gives him bonuses that are unseen in the pilots status screen.

[lord_jinnai]

because of the disaster that hit me the other day... Iam still recovering... I had to restart my robot game.
this time I am paying more attention to the gundam story line. I have also paid more time and money on my zaku. I have found the following: zaku rocks! with the shields upgraded only halfway and the weapons and armour and hp and the rest upgraded only a fourth... this MS is a serious *** kicker!

and why is Ko teased about carrots?

[j_wong00]

Originally posted by lord_jinnai
and why is Ko teased about carrots?

Because he hates them, and takes a rather childish approach to eating (or more accuratly, not eating) them.

Kou, while technically an adult (I think he was 18 in the show), still acts like a child, and in some ways others treat him as such.

[lord_jinnai]

this time I got Rosmia (sp?) Kamiyus' little sister on my team. she was not a good pilot at first but after she gained some skills she is not that bad. I also managed to get the G-3 gundam.

now my question this time is : where did the G-3 gundam make an appearance? I can't recall seeing it in the Videos that I watched....

[j_wong00]

Originally posted by lord_jinnai
this time I got Rosmia (sp?) Kamiyus' little sister on my team. she was not a good pilot at first but after she gained some skills she is not that bad. I also managed to get the G-3 gundam.

now my question this time is : where did the G-3 gundam make an appearance? I can't recall seeing it in the Videos that I watched....

The G3 Gundam was in a "side story", I can't remember which one.

Officially, it never made an appearence in any TV or OVA.

Personally, I think it was Tomino's way of putting in what he wanted the Gundam to look like before the sponsors got their grubby hands on the design.

[Andrew]

The The RX-78-3 Gundam or G-3 was in the "Mobile Suit Gundam: Awakening, Escalation, Confrontation" witch was Yoshiyuki Tomino's Book that started the Gundam world, and the U.C. Timeline.
In the three movie and in the show. the Federation's sent people to the White Base to applie the magnetic coating that had been tested on the G-3 to the RX-79-2 Gundam.
Well in Book the Federation does not send poeple to work on the RX-78-2 Gundam, they just send the hole G-3 over to the WB for Amuro to use.

[ShmooZeroOmega]

Originally posted by j_wong00
Personally, I think it was Tomino's way of putting in what he wanted the Gundam to look like before the sponsors got their grubby hands on the design.

Actually, the way I think the Gundam looked before it was changed to those goofy Red-White-Blue-Yellow colors (I think it would look good Red-White-Blue or Yellow-White blue, but all four colors is too much). It's all White, like a Storm Trooper with the exception of the vents and a few other parts.

http://gundam.anime.net/images/mecha/RX-78-2.RO.GIF

[j_wong00]

Originally posted by ShmooZeroOmega
Actually, the way I think the Gundam looked before it was changed to those goofy Red-White-Blue-Yellow colors (I think it would look good Red-White-Blue or Yellow-White blue, but all four colors is too much). It's all White, like a Storm Trooper with the exception of the vents and a few other parts.

http://gundam.anime.net/images/mecha/RX-78-2.RO.GIF

Wasn't that what I said :???:

To those who don't already know, the colours were changed to the present red, yellow, and blue because the sponsor was a toy company (don't remember which one) wanted "catchier" colours, thinking they could sell more toys to the kids.

[ShmooZeroOmega]

No offense to your mighty Gundam knowledge, j_wong00, but, I thought the G-3 Gundam is purple... That was the Gundam Roll-out colors, at least according to Mark Simmons. Perhaps I simply misenterpereted your post???

[Gaizokubanou]

I really thought G-3 was grey... I have it in G generation games and I'm pretty sure it was grey(there were no purple gundam other than phsyco mk2 in that game)

[AnalyticalWrath]

http://store6.yimg.com/I/littlethingsmeanalot_1771_3901883

[lord_jinnai]

Now Im trying to get the psycho gundam and an extra gundam Mk11. there is a way to get them but Im not to sure how yet....

Question: Does the "The O" have a weakness? anything? Jerido shoots down all my gundams in one brutaly powerful shot and my great Mazinger in two. Its just not fair!

[Andrew]

Gundam G-3 was colored in about three shades of Grey Grey-Blue and Black. Now the rollout colors for the RX-78-2 Gundam where Red White Grey and Black.

Here the rollout colors for the RX-78-2 Gundam...
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msgundam/rx-78-2.htm

And here is Gundam G-3...
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/msv/rx-78-3.htm

[Sharp-kun]

Originally posted by lord_jinnai
Question: Does the "The O" have a weakness? anything? Jerido shoots down all my gundams in one brutaly powerful shot and my great Mazinger in two. Its just not fair!
My prefered way of dealing with "The O", in SRW3, was to use Nu Gundam to take it out. The I-Field protected it, and its funnels worked rather well using the "Hot Blood" senshin.

[lord_jinnai]

the new gundam isnt available yet. I have only the MK2 and Ez 8 and a zaku. anything else?

[Sharp-kun]

Originally posted by lord_jinnai
the new gundam isnt available yet. I have only the MK2 and Ez 8 and a zaku. anything else? Depends on what SRW game it is.

I've already said how I usually did it in 3.

In F/F Final, I would basically hit it with whatever good super robots I had (GoShogun's "Go Flasher", Getter G's "Shine Spark" etc).

[lord_jinnai]

I have a new question. what is the z 11 ? and re gaz?

[MagicianCamille]

I have a new question. what is the z 11 ? and re gaz?


Zeta Gundam II? That is the Mobile Suit Varitation of the Zeta.

Re-Gz is "Refined Gundam Zeta", from the Char's Counter Attack movie that takes place about 6 years after Zeta.

[lord_jinnai]

new question. how was the crew under captain schnapps. [german for hard liqouer, a play on his drinking habit?] after the colony crashed into the earth, integrated into the titans?
how was Ema [a titan soldier] able to serve under captain Bright?

[j_wong00]

how was Ema [a titan soldier] able to serve under captain Bright?

Emma defected.
She saw what most of the Titans (namely the top brass) were like, and disagreed with their tactics and actions.
So she essentially deserted the Earth Federation army (just like Bright did if you think about it), and joined the AEUG.

[Andrew]

Captain Synapse was naver made a part of the Titans. He was executed after Operation Stardust for violating orders in a time of War. and stealing the GP03.

[lord_jinnai]

sorry I missed one question. ...er I didnt complete it..
how was schnapps' crew after the colony crashed into earth, integrated into the titans?
And what was Koh uraki charged for? what was his sentance?

[j_wong00]

sorry I missed one question. ...er I didnt complete it..
how was schnapps' crew after the colony crashed into earth, integrated into the titans?
And what was Koh uraki charged for? what was his sentance?

The crew of the Albion (minus the captain) was shown to be the first of the Titans special forces, as seen by them putting on the soon to be infamous black uniforms.

Kou's most serious charge was Theft of Military property (namely the GP03), and was suppose to be sentenced to a long prison term.
However, since the EF covered up the entire Operation Stardust and the Gundam Development project, the charges were later dropped and expunged from all records.
Therefore officially Kou was released, and assigned to a base in North America (either mid-west US or Canada, can't remember).

[lord_jinnai]

A new gundam question... For the real know it alls.
I just recently started watching seed. I would like to know what the armour rating of those gundams are? Are they compareable with the Z gundam or the f91? are they superiour to the older gundams in any way?

[Musashi9X]

A new gundam question... For the real know it alls.
I just recently started watching seed. I would like to know what the armour rating of those gundams are? Are they compareable with the Z gundam or the f91? are they superiour to the older gundams in any way?
As far as armor goes, I would say that the phase shift armor of the SEED Gundams is superior to the gundarium gamma armor of Zeta or the gundarium/ceramic composite armor of the F91.

While gundarium is able to shrug off *most* attacks from armor piercing and incindiary rounds, a HE (high explosive) round of a large enough calibur (Like the Zaku 280mm Bazooka) can damage it significantly, even destroy it if placed well enough or fired in succession.

F91's gundarium/ceramic composite armor is more resistant to HE rounds and much lighter, because the ceramic reduces the weight. As the HE round penetrates the armor, the ceramic breaks apart and blows outward pushing the force of the blast away. (Similar to modern day chobham armor) However, this *can* be overcome by firing HE rounds in the exact spot or having a multi firing round, but in reality shooting the same place like that is very difficult, it would require EXTREME skill or dumb luck.

SEED's phase shift armor seems to be resistant to ALL physical attack, but requires power to use. According to Andrew Waltfeld, if a PS equipped suit is struck repeatedly, it uses up the power and can be penetrated if the power supply cannot match up to the damage. But other than that, physical weapons are practically useless.

Beam weapons, such as beam rifles or beam sabers, though, tear through all three armors like a hot knife through butter. Although F91 has a beam shield to absorb beam blasts, and the SEED shields have an ablative anti-beam coating.

[CrossboneGundam]

is it my imagination or is quattro weakerin this show than in the first series?

but on the plus side I finaly understand one of the or... many of the moves that kamiyu can do in my game.
he 'charges' the zetter and transforms into a plane that has a pink aura and charges into the enemy
his beam sword streaches and more damage than usual.
:crush:

Char's never been that hot a pilot to begin with, but anyway... What Super Robot Wars game are you playing? The attacks you're describing are Zeta's Waverider Attack and Hyper Beam Saber, which are both the cool, of course.

[lord_jinnai]

this was the super robot wars alpha 2. more on this later. good night for now.

[lord_jinnai]

:) Kind of good news. super robot wars taisen alpha 3 is to be released and I havent even finished the 2nd or the 1st for that matter this will take time again. still good news eh?

[CrossboneGundam]

Yeah, there's already an Alpha 3 thread here in the Gundam forums where we've been discussing Alpha 3 for a few months now...

http://www.animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=167449

[MagicianCamille]

:) Kind of good news. super robot wars taisen alpha 3 is to be released and I havent even finished the 2nd or the 1st for that matter this will take time again. still good news eh?


Don't forget Gaiden, it takes place between 1 and 2.


*points to the Alpha 3 thread*

[lord_jinnai]

well its been a while since I posted in this thread but now I have more questions again.

Now that I have seen the first part of seed I would like to know about the antagonist with the mask. Why is he able to sence the presence of "the man that can make the impossible possible"? and vice versa. I was able to understand that they were both made by the same company but why do they seem to be newtypes and not SEED types?

As always thank you in advance.

[Amuro]

well its been a while since I posted in this thread but now I have more questions again.

Now that I have seen the first part of seed I would like to know about the antagonist with the mask. Why is he able to sence the presence of "the man that can make the impossible possible"? and vice versa. I was able to understand that they were both made by the same company but why do they seem to be newtypes and not SEED types?

As always thank you in advance.

"SEED types" that's an interesting choice of terminology.. In Gundam Seed, the genetically engineered "superior" humans are called Coordinators, and Coordinators & Naturals can both have the extra sensory ability that's abreviated as "SEED."

The official statement by Mitsuo Fukuda, the director of Seed, is that Mu and Rau are among the "last of the Newtypes," which is a statement that may not make much sense if you're not familiar with Turn-A Gundam, which unified all the Alternate Universe series with a complex tale of history being lost..

The seemingly random "space whale" seen in fossilized form in Seed is also something that appeared in Turn-A.