Snow? In my Central Valley California?!

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Yeah it's actually snowing here! Sure it'll all be melted by noon, but it's snowing!

It's funny too because the local weather crew are acting like they don't even know what snow is, like the on-location reporter was standing there and was all

"It's like... rain, but colder and it doesn't feel good what on earth is this crap?!"

and now Leader Desslock will come in and laugh at me.

[Bradster]

I'd hate to be out on those roads this morning, if they're filled with people who have little to no experience driving on them in those conditions.


Edit: My family in TX got snow a few days ago and my nephews were absolutely thrilled. They made (tiny) snowmen, but it didn't last longer than noonish. I told my Mom she should show them pictures of the blizzard of '78 in Indiana, back when my siblings and I were around their age..

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Yeah I was out driving today and I accidently ran over Leader Desslock on his bicycle.

I was like "OMFG NO" but he was all "Don't worry I have windshield insurance."

[Arnold]

Love it when people with no experience around snow absolutely freak out about it.

[Soluzar]

Snow in California? The end times are upon us.

[old hat]

It snows in the Central Valley every once in a great while. I have seen it snow in Fresno three times in my lifetime. I have seen it snow on the beach in San Francisco too.In the mountains it snows every year of course. They didn't call them the Snowy Mountains fior nothing. People have odd ideas about the weather in California. In once had a guy from New York confidently tell me that it doesn't get foggy in the Central valley. I grew up there and he had never been there but he was utterly sure of himself.

[Neko]

I heard it was snowing in Louisiana right next to the Gulf the other day, too. Weird.

Even weirder, the fact that it's already snowed almost everywhere else but has yet to snow in St. Louis. Lucky so far, I guess.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

It snows in the Central Valley every once in a great while. I have seen it snow in Fresno three times in my lifetime. I have seen it snow on the beach in San Francisco too.In the mountains it snows every year of course. They didn't call them the Snowy Mountains fior nothing. People have odd ideas about the weather in California. In once had a guy from New York confidently tell me that it doesn't get foggy in the Central valley. I grew up there and he had never been there but he was utterly sure of himself.

Yeah but I'm in STOCKTON.

STOCKTON!

[Siendra]

"It's like... rain, but colder and it doesn't feel good what on earth is this crap?!"

I wish I lived someplace like that. The snow right now is about two inches below the windows of my car...

[old hat]

Yeah but I'm in STOCKTON.

STOCKTON!

Fresno is further south than Stockton. Stockton at a lower elevation but Fresno is only 300 feet above sea level.

[Holy Knight]

Ah, it's always weird to hear people talk about not knowing snow. Why, we've had a near-record snowfall in winter of '08, with nearly 4 meters all told. That's 13 feet. It's a lot of shoveling.

So far, it's barely snowed which is an irregularity around here. I'm sure I'll have lots to work with once Christmas comes around.

[Caster13]

Well at least a lot of people will have a White Christmas. Personally I don't care, cause I hate snow. That's one of the reasons I moved to the desert.

But if it snows here, in PHOENIX ARIZONA, I'm gonna lose it.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Ah, it's always weird to hear people talk about not knowing snow. Why, we've had a near-record snowfall in winter of '08, with nearly 4 meters all told. That's 13 feet. It's a lot of shoveling.

So far, it's barely snowed which is an irregularity around here. I'm sure I'll have lots to work with once Christmas comes around.

Yeah I know I had to wear a shirt with sleeves today!

[Neko]

Maybe I should move to the desert. I don't hate the snow itself, I just hate... temperatures below 60. If it's below 60, then it's too damn cold.

[old hat]

It can get very cold at night in the desert because of the lack of water in the air.

[Caster13]

It can get very cold at night in the desert because of the lack of water in the air.

Damn straight. For the past month up until yesterday I've been freezing my *** off in the morning and at night. As soon as the sun sets whatever warmth was there disappears. The heat has had to be cranked up to like 80 just to stay a little warm.

I'll say it again, global warming is bull****.

[fujyoshi]

holy crap prons got snow /heh you told me in msn @_@ and I thought only over here in NY was a winter wonder land

[Caster13]

holy crap prons got snow /heh you told me in msn @_@ and I thought only over here in NY was a winter wonder land

Whoa, hold on a second, how much snow did you get in NYC? :blink:

[fujyoshi]

Whoa, hold on a second, how much snow did you get in NYC? :blink:

its an expression ;p

[Caster13]

Oh, because I can't remember the last time NYC got actual considerable snowfall.

[old hat]

Phew it's hot today. That proves global warming.

Brr it's cold today. Global warming is a farce.

[Vaikyuko]

I've never seen snow in my life. :(

[Bradster]

I'll say it again, global warming is bull****.

Global warming is the annual average increase of atmospheric temperatures across the entire globe. Cold winter temperatures in Nowhere, MN don't change that, as long as the global average still comes out higher than it used to be...

[Bernard_Monsha]

Love it when people with no experience around snow absolutely freak out about it.

Best thing is watching iced over off ramps. Gravity + no winter driving experience = free blooper reel.

[Pessimist]

So...

Prons went and stole all the snow...

Are you happy now, are you?
There is a small kid trying to make a snow angel in mud, in MUD!

You overly glorified basterd.

[waltsoph3]

Pretty amazing huh. :) I actually got snow in my area as well. Thats pretty rare. And didn't stick though buts its always awesome to look at. For once I happily can say I'm living in christmas weather again. :lol:

[Caster13]

I've never seen snow in my life. :(

Trust me, it gets old quick. Particularly when you have several feet of the stuff in a long driveway, it's heavy because the snow was water soaked, and there is a c foot wall of highly compacted snow, slush, and snow partially frozen to ice at the end of your driveway. Have a few of these events happen along with some minor snow and some where the snow has been soaked with freezing rain for 2 or 3 winters and you will want to sit under a palm tree for the rest of your life very, very, very badly as soon as possible and never go back.

[Pessimist]

Snow tends to reveal the gutless whelps.

What Kenpachi described is pure joy. Now, snow and military service on the otherhand...

[Bradster]

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd1swHF1vPQ) one's old, but never fails to amuse me. Sure hate to be the ones at the back of that segmented bus....

Here in Denver the topography and street design seems to conspire against you, with a non-trivial number of intersections being at the tops or bottoms of inclines. Get one person stuck at the bottom and unable to get started again, or someone who didn't start their deceleration fast enough and starts skiing down through the intersection, and it makes for unpleasant commuting..

[Caster13]

Snow tends to reveal the gutless whelps.

What Kenpachi described is pure joy. Now, snow and military service on the otherhand...

I lived with snow and cold for 20 years, I couldn't stand it anymore. Now I have palm trees around me and it almost never rains, never snows, and there are almost no clouds in the sky most of the year.

Plus I had the opportunity to move out of Jersey. If you've ever been to New Jersey you will understand why I wanted to.

[superplough]

It's more likely than you think.

[Jack_Bauer]

Snow in California? The end times are upon us.

California is one of the few states that possesses many terrain that many states have. We got quite a few ski resorts so snowing isn't a rare occurance for us.

[Fobb]

No biggy.

NAU got today off because it was a snow day.

[old hat]

Mammoth Lakes is in California.
http://www.mammothmountain.com/
but not at 15 feet above sea level like Stockton.

[Old Ape Face]

Yeah it's actually snowing here! Sure it'll all be melted by noon, but it's snowing!

It's funny too because the local weather crew are acting like they don't even know what snow is, like the on-location reporter was standing there and was all

"It's like... rain, but colder and it doesn't feel good what on earth is this crap?!"

and now Leader Desslock will come in and laugh at me.

I'm not Desslock but I will still laugh at you.

Get yourself on a snowboard and tell me about it.

[SapperSix]

It was raining hard today at Camp Pendleton. I Haven't seen it rain this hard in the 8 months I've been here.

[Arnold]

Trust me, it gets old quick. Particularly when you have several feet of the stuff in a long driveway, it's heavy because the snow was water soaked, and there is a c foot wall of highly compacted snow, slush, and snow partially frozen to ice at the end of your driveway. Have a few of these events happen along with some minor snow and some where the snow has been soaked with freezing rain for 2 or 3 winters and you will want to sit under a palm tree for the rest of your life very, very, very badly as soon as possible and never go back.

I know what you mean. But my solution is to go to an apartment where they do that crap for you.

Believe it or not, the extreme weather conditions is one of the reasons I want to stay in Jersey. Going to a place where it's the same all year would drive me nuts.

[Jatz]

Snow in California? The end times are upon us.
It snows in northern California so it's no big deal. Snow in southern California is, but it snowed in Florida, the Sahara Desert, and it snows often in Hawaii so this is no big surprise.
It can get very cold at night in the desert because of the lack of water in the air.
I thought it got cold because of the lack of ground cover.
Damn straight. For the past month up until yesterday I've been freezing my *** off in the morning and at night. As soon as the sun sets whatever warmth was there disappears. The heat has had to be cranked up to like 80 just to stay a little warm.

I'll say it again, global warming is bull****.

Global warming doesn't mean it's going to warm all the time.

[Caster13]

Global warming doesn't mean it's going to warm all the time.

Um, duh? I know that. But Phoenix is warm a hell of a lot more than many other places in the country. Right now it's pretty cold, but last year it was this way for a little over a month at night. This year it's cold almost all the time, and it is probably going to last anywhere between 2 to 3 months if this keeps up.

[Soluzar]

It snows in northern California so it's no big deal. Snow in southern California is, but it snowed in Florida, the Sahara Desert, and it snows often in Hawaii so this is no big surprise.
Ahh. Well... feel free to blame my outsider's perspective. I kinda thought it never got cold in the southernmost states, due to their lattitude. On the other hand I have this image of some of the northern states as being perpetually frozen. See... America seems such a huuuuuuuggggeeee country that (unlike Britain) it could potentially span a whole range of climate types.

[Caster13]

Ahh. Well... feel free to blame my outsider's perspective. I kinda thought it never got cold in the southernmost states, due to their lattitude. On the other hand I have this image of some of the northern states as being perpetually frozen. See... America seems such a huuuuuuuggggeeee country that (unlike Britain) it could potentially span a whole range of climate types.

It does have different climates. And the geography is also very different and very varied. Plus not all of the states are connected. Florida is very much tropical, the middle states are almost completely flat, and you can see in all directions often for miles. States with the Rocky Mountains get very cold during the winter and the snow melts much later than what's below them. The desert actually has quite a lot of different landscapes too. The Northwest has a lot of forests and it rains most of the year in some areas. Hawaii is all tropical and has a constantly active volcano, and Alaska has a very harsh climate since it's so close to the North Pole.

But it's still not at all like you think it is. There's more to many states than what you see through the media.

[old hat]

California is ~1,280 km from North to South and goes from sea level to 4,417 m elevation at the highest point. It has everything from temperate rain forest to high desert.

[Jatz]

Um, duh? I know that. But Phoenix is warm a hell of a lot more than many other places in the country. Right now it's pretty cold, but last year it was this way for a little over a month at night. This year it's cold almost all the time, and it is probably going to last anywhere between 2 to 3 months if this keeps up.
You were all, "It's cold. Proof global worming is a lie!"

Ahh. Well... feel free to blame my outsider's perspective. I kinda thought it never got cold in the southernmost states, due to their lattitude. On the other hand I have this image of some of the northern states as being perpetually frozen. See... America seems such a huuuuuuuggggeeee country that (unlike Britain) it could potentially span a whole range of climate types.

Don't feel bad when I watch Dragnet and Friday says, "It was cold in Los Angeles." or "It was raining in Los Angeles." I'm like, "That happens in LA?" but yeah the US is practically a whole continent by itself so, as Kenpachi said, there is a large variety of climates and topography. I've heard that the thunderstorms we get are more intense because of the land and topography.

[Caster13]

You were all, "It's cold. Proof global worming is a lie!"

It's been getting colder during the winter for the past several years. Yet everybody thought this was a thing of the past. From what I understand the temperature of the Earth actually went down. The Earth is just going through a short cycle.

[Justinian]

It never snows in Arkansas...

[old hat]

I thought it got cold because of the lack of ground cover.


It's mostly the lack of humidity. Water has a high specific heat. A lot of energy is required to heat it and it releases quite a bit when it cools off. That moderates the temperature. The diurnal isn't so large. Very dry climates have a large diurnal. Land and air do not retain heat well like water does so the temperature drops fast when the sun goes down.

Lack of cloud cover at night also allows heat to escape more quickly.

[Meson]

Snow in Southern California? I blame the sun shutting off for a year. The ice Age is coming!

[Ken-Ohki]

It snowed in Fresno the year I moved. Now in Utah it snows and I only think "why am I still here?"

[Bradster]

Ahh. Well... feel free to blame my outsider's perspective. I kinda thought it never got cold in the southernmost states, due to their lattitude. On the other hand I have this image of some of the northern states as being perpetually frozen. See... America seems such a huuuuuuuggggeeee country that (unlike Britain) it could potentially span a whole range of climate types.

What's that joke? The Briton thinks 100 miles is a long way, the American thinks 100 years is a long time?

[Jatz]

It's been getting colder during the winter for the past several years. Yet everybody thought this was a thing of the past. From what I understand the temperature of the Earth actually went down. The Earth is just going through a short cycle.

I remember about every every year I'd get about at least one storm that drops 3' of snow, now I get a few inches that melt in a few days.

[old hat]

What's that joke? The Briton thinks 100 miles is a long way, the American thinks 100 years is a long time?

That's an old one but appropriate.

[Jack_Bauer]

Why does snow in Southern California seem strange? It's nothing new for us. We have the most diverse terrain in Cali: You can surf, ski, mtn climb, etc etc all rolled into one and the best part is that you dont have to travel that far. I just want Mammoth ski resort to open up so I can start snowboarding. Its been years since i last did this.

[Caster13]

Why does snow in Southern California seem strange? It's nothing new for us. We have the most diverse terrain in Cali: You can surf, ski, mtn climb, etc etc all rolled into one and the best part is that you dont have to travel that far. I just want Mammoth ski resort to open up so I can start snowboarding. Its been years since i last did this.

Well from a foreigner's point of view, such as with Soluzar, Southern California = Hollywood. Also, there is Death Valley.

[old hat]

People imagine that California=LA

[Caster13]

People imagine that California=LA

I just said that.

[old hat]

You're on my ignore list so I generally don't see or pay any attention to what you post. I sometimes look at individual posts but usually I don't bother. I find the forum reads better that way.

[Caster13]

Why am I on your ignore list?

[The Million Dollar Prons]

why are you ignoring people on the internet that'd be like being offended if Heller Keller called you a retard.

[Caster13]

why are you ignoring people on the internet that'd be like being offended if Heller Keller called you a retard.

Actually if that woman think's you're a retard that's really, really bad.

[Old Ape Face]

Why am I on your ignore list?

becuase he's allergic to natural human behavior.

[old hat]

A brilliant analysis.

No, I'm allergic to inane drivel. Inane drivel like that meaningless statement. Could you make a more vacuous response if you tried?

There are a few reasons why I might ignore a given poster.

The main one is an attempt to increase the signal to noise ratio of the forum. People who post a lot of noise and little or no signal go there.

Some people go on there because in my opinion their posts are eyesores. I don't want to look at them let alone read them.

Also, chronic trolls go on there.

[superplough]

Some people go on there because in my opinion their posts are eyesores. I don't want to look at them let alone read them.

A fine example of this is when certain people choose to post everything in bold blue text, and then when asked not to, they virtually tell you to go have copulations with your mother.

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Yeah it's actually snowing here! Sure it'll all be melted by noon, but it's snowing!

It's funny too because the local weather crew are acting like they don't even know what snow is, like the on-location reporter was standing there and was all

"It's like... rain, but colder and it doesn't feel good what on earth is this crap?!"


It does snow in California...among other places.
Well at least a lot of people will have a White Christmas. Personally I don't care, cause I hate snow. That's one of the reasons I moved to the desert.

But if it snows here, in PHOENIX ARIZONA, I'm gonna lose it.
The white Christmas was all good and dandy until you became a car owner. Well, at least that's what happened to me. The magic is no longer there.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

It does snow in California...among other places.


Well ya know I just happen to live in Northern California I might know a thing or two about snow in California.

[old hat]

A fine example of this is when certain people choose to post everything in bold blue text, and then when asked not to, they virtually tell you to go have copulations with your mother.

In my experience, people who insist in posting everything in bright colors or in bold are very often self-absorbed attention whores. The entire purpose of this behavior is to yell, "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME" with every post. I would not expect this sort of poster to change his or her posting style out of something that concerns them as little as mere consideration for other people. That self-absorption and lack of consideration is usually reflected in the contents of their posts as well.

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Well ya know I just happen to live in Northern California I might know a thing or two about snow in California.
No doubt. I was hoping to avoid snow myself but it looks like that might not be possible. At least I will have a valid excuse for being late to work or not showing up at all.

It looks as if members find other methods of attention whore-ing here but it highly recommended to just stay on the subject of SNOW. The constant complaining has no merit anywhere and has already been brought up, ad nauseam.

[old hat]

Oh, I forgot to mention that such people go on my ignore list immediately and stay there permanently.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Me I just prefer to lock horns. Sure, ignoring people is one way to enjoy the internet, but me I don't need a condom to surf the internet.

[Old Ape Face]

Me I just prefer to lock horns. Sure, ignoring people is one way to enjoy the internet, but me I don't need a condom to surf the internet.

so this is why Prons has not STDs on the internet...

I prefer to go passive with **** that bothers me, really people need to relax and take life with all they've got instead of locking themselves in a pen and defending their personal life style.

Accept the fact that everyone is different and don't make it a **** storm for no reason.