California to Ban Divorce

[trunkschan90]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_banning_divorce

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[Jack_Bauer]

Not gonna happen in my opinion.

[tenshi_a]

Web designers and politicians are opposite ends of the spectrum, from my experience. One should never attempt to do the job of the other. -_-;

[old hat]

It's one guy trying to make some sort of self-righteous statement and getting some press on a slow news day.

[Gray]

Cool thread bro. Though I fail to see how

The vow would really hold true in California if a Sacramento Web designer gets his way.

equates to the entire state of California trying to pass a law banning divorce. Inb4 waltsoph not reading anything and blowing the entire subject out of proportion.

[Pessimist]

Rocks keep fallin' on his head,
And just like the guy whom no one seems to like,
Nothin' seems to miss,
Those rocks are fallin' on his head, they keep fallin'.

With the sanctity of marriage restored, we can also go back to the old custom of parents choosing some "relative" for you to marry in order to ensure that wealth and power doesn't escape from the grasp of the family. Also the head of the family and unquestioned ruler is the oldest living male member of the family, and women really should not move anywhere public without a male escort from the same family.


Marriage:
The legal status, condition, or relationship that results from a contract by which X and Y, who have the capacity to enter into such an agreement, mutually promise to live together in the relationship of A and B in law for life, or until the legal termination of the relationship.

I see no valid reason to forbid same-sex marriages.

[Jae Hoon]

It's one guy trying to make some sort of self-righteous statement and getting some press on a slow news day.

Pretty much this, the only other story is still about the couple crashing Obama's party.

[Leader Desslock]

I think this is hilarious, and would love to see the law passed. I don't intend to live in California anyway.

Here's a better idea: Since the union of Marriage is given certain tax breaks and civil privileges (society wants to foster Marriage, after all), I think that any couple getting a divorce should be required to compensate the state for any benefits they received over the previous, say, 7 years of marriage. That seems only fair, and has legal precedent:

If you've got a piece of land that receives favorable tax status for agricultural/public use, then you take the land and subdivide it for business/residential development (highest and best use), then before the subdivision can be created, you have to pay back the taxes that were saved by placing it in an undevelopable status. That prevents anyone from filing fraudulent tax status to save money in the short run.

Billing couples for tax savings prior to permitting the divorce would be the same thing - it would prevent people from entering Marriages of Convenience to save a few bucks.

I'm totally on board with this.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Pretty much this, the only other story is still about the couple crashing Obama's party.

Much more news worthy (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/zombie_reagan_raised_from_grave?utm_sour ce=videoembed) IMO.

[willag]

In a movement that seems ripped from the pages of Comedy Channel writers, John Marcotte wants to put a measure on the ballot next year to ban divorce in California.

The effort is meant to be a satirical statement after California voters outlawed gay marriage in 2008, largely on the argument that a ban is needed to protect the sanctity of traditional marriage. If that's the case, then Marcotte reasons voters should have no problem banning divorce.

"Since California has decided to protect traditional marriage, I think it would be hypocritical of us not to sacrifice some of our own rights to protect traditional marriage even more," the 38-year-old married father of two said.

Marcotte, who is Catholic and voted against Proposition 8, views himself as an accidental activist. A registered Democrat, he led a "ban divorce" rally recently at the state Capitol in Sacramento to launch his effort and was pleasantly surprised at the turnout. About 50 people showed up, some holding signs that read, "You too can vote to take away civil rights from someone."

I'm with Desslock on this one, I'm thoroughly amused. I don't ever see this becoming law, but that wasn't really the point. Too bad I don't live in California, else I would add my signature.

However, if it did pass? Endless amusement.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Am I the only one who sees this as that web designer's Larry David-ian plot to ban divorce so his wife won't leave him?

[Jae Hoon]

Much more news worthy (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/zombie_reagan_raised_from_grave?utm_sour ce=videoembed) IMO.

He has my vote.

[Carhill22]

I would laugh really hard if this passed, and if prop 8 is overturned.. then everyone would get stuck together!!

I can't believe less than a million signatures are needed to get something placed on the ballot, since there's way too many people living in CA..

[animeotaku99]

This needs to be passed to protect the sanctity of Marriage!

[waltsoph3]

equates to the entire state of California trying to pass a law banning divorce. Inb4 waltsoph not reading anything and blowing the entire subject out of proportion.

I"MMMMMMMMMMM HERE!! Ask and you shall receive. lol :P What!? Desslock is FOR this. Thats it. Thats an automatic reason for me to be against it.

Seriously though...I'm against it and not because of desslock ok..that was a joke. Just clearing that up.

I'm against it for one reason and one simple reason only..freedom of choice.

Look honestly my parents divorced looong ago when i was a kid. Sometimes today in honesty..I see why. Sometimes it is better for people to seperate then to cause more harm.

Can you imagine if a thing like this passed..chances are you would see more crimes of passion. I meen can't get out of the marriage until the person they married is out of the picture. Ofcourse..this hasn't stop some people already for other foolish motives lol( I watch trutv at times. :) )

The day we take away a persons choice of whats best is the day you no longer have a right to choose. Now I'm not trying to sound sexist or anything with what I'm about to say but I'm greatful we do have divorce as a choice. Some woman don't even have a choice in certain marriages/cultures when married.

Look its sad to know the statistics of failed marriages. Sometimes people make poor choices. Yet others shouldn't be punished that weren't even involved in one couples divorce.

If this whole idea is a joke ha ha very funny...but if it is a joke and the crazy idea does pass.. i have feeling were gonna see more ghost towns.

[Arnold]

And the "taking this way too seriously award" goes to Waltsoph. Again.

Not everything is a potential crisis, you know.

[Old Ape Face]

Um Wife wants a divorce, Husband will do anything in his power to make divorce illegal for his wife.

Sounds like a settlement claim.

[Trefellin]

Um, wow. That was the most misleading thread title I've ever come across. :|

[Old Ape Face]

Now that I read his testament on why he would want to ban divorce, I say why not, after banning Gay Marriage.

But isn't that getting a little too radical? The reason why people can't join the military till they're 18, is becuase they can't vote until they're 18.

Does the fact that you're not of age to vote, sanctify you're ability to join the armed forces?

In my opinion I'm neither for nor against, Gay Marriage either way it wont affect my life knowing that two matrimonial members of society are the same gender.

Just like the fact that you can still give birth before or after you're married, naturally it really doesn't make a difference.

But by law you are required to stay with your significant other for life? that sounds a little foreign government control to me. Something I would expect from any other country except United State which was founded on the basis of human natural rights.

Now that I think about it, not allowing Gay Marriage is sort of going against natural rights too, so I see the joke in this man's testimony.

[Bradster]

It's one guy trying to make some sort of self-righteous statement and getting some press on a slow news day.

I'd think the people screeching about the Sanctity of Marriage in a country with the divorce rate approaching 50% (and about 75% of the nation identifying themselves as Christians) are the self-righteous ones.. IMO this is the perfect thing to shove down their throats.

[Bernard_Monsha]

We should just combine this with the UK butthurt thread.

[Caster13]

But isn't that getting a little too radical? The reason why people can't join the military till they're 18, is becuase they can't vote until they're 18.

WRONG. Wow, you are so, so wrong on this one. Originally the age that people, well white males anyways back then when the country was formed, could vote was 21. This was later changed to 18 because of people sick of the fact that that a man could go out and die for his country at 18 years old and yet not be allowed to vote because he wasn't 21.


Honestly I believe the same thing when it comes to drinking and being 21. If a man joins the military and loses one or more of his limbs, comes home and wants to get drunk at a bar, he can't because he's not 21. It's disgusting.

[Old Ape Face]

I'd think the people screeching about the Sanctity of Marriage in a country with the divorce rate approaching 50% (and about 75% of the nation identifying themselves as Christians) are the self-righteous ones.. IMO this is the perfect thing to shove down their throats.


Because most people are not clingy enough to keep themselves satisfied with one person the rest of their lives?

People are considering a few things these days, over population, economic crisis, personal interest. It's all about what people want and what they don't want. Religion is just a figure head, people are easily corrupted by words composed from an authoritative power.

In this country we are given more freedom than any other country in the world. In this country everyone has the ability to stand and fight for a better life, but people abuse that power to the point where they don't feel like supporting anything because the government or somebody other than themselves can do the work for them.

When it gets right down to it, people will divorce just to make the excuse that the other person is not capable of supporting them anymore, or whatever the reason, those people never had legitimate interest in their partner to begin with. Usually it's a money issue.

So in this case, since the state has banned gay marriage all because it is disrupting their personal lives. This man is taking the idea that he can remove divorce for a kick in the face to the general public.

Honestly I believe the same thing when it comes to drinking and being 21. If a man joins the military and loses one or more of his limbs, comes home and wants to get drunk at a bar, he can't because he's not 21. It's disgusting.

Getting drunk has nothing to do with supporting your country.

[RecentMidget]

Getting drunk has nothing to do with supporting your country.

it does if you're Irish

BA-ZING!!!

[Trefellin]

Getting drunk has nothing to do with supporting your country.

But why should the government force you to kill, die, become irrevocably scarred psychologically or maimed to protect rights and freedoms that you don't even have yourself as an individual? That's pretty disgusting. If someone is putting their life and more on the line for your rights, why shouldn't they expect to have every right that others are afforded? Including the right to consume alcohol as an adult?

[Old Ape Face]

But why should the government force you to kill, die, become irrevocably scarred psychologically or maimed to protect rights and freedoms that you don't even have yourself as an individual? That's pretty disgusting. If someone is putting their life and more on the line for your rights, why shouldn't they expect to have every right that others are afforded? Including the right to consume alcohol as an adult?

That is the ultimate price to make for keeping your country as free as it can be.

[Arnold]

But why should the government force you to kill, die, become irrevocably scarred psychologically or maimed to protect rights and freedoms that you don't even have yourself as an individual? That's pretty disgusting. If someone is putting their life and more on the line for your rights, why shouldn't they expect to have every right that others are afforded? Including the right to consume alcohol as an adult?

Thank the idiocy of college frat boys for that.

Seriously, death by alcohol poisoning among young adults would shoot up dramatically in the US if they lowered the drinking age.

[Bradster]

Thank the idiocy of college frat boys for that.

Seriously, death by alcohol poisoning among young adults would shoot up dramatically in the US if they lowered the drinking age.

Or go down, since they'd no longer have to binge-drink at parties to make up for not being able to have a glass at will now and then.

(Not that I'm an expert on the matter, since I can count the number of drinks I've had since coming of age on my fingers and toes and have a couple left over..)

[Bernard_Monsha]

^

That is actually true, alcohol loses a lot of it's appeal when you don't have to come up with elaborate schemes to obtain it.

[Caster13]

That is the ultimate price to make for keeping your country as free as it can be.

No, DIEING is the ultimate price!!!

You idiot! I can't believe you just said that! :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

[Old Ape Face]

No, DIEING is the ultimate price!!!

You idiot! I can't believe you just said that! :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Dieing in battle is a privilege not a right.

In the Military you are obligated to give up some of you're own country's freedoms for the sake of allowing your country to have those freedoms.

Haven't you ever seen Jarhead?

[Boomhauer]

But why should the government force you to kill, die, become irrevocably scarred psychologically or maimed to protect rights and freedoms that you don't even have yourself as an individual? That's pretty disgusting. If someone is putting their life and more on the line for your rights, why shouldn't they expect to have every right that others are afforded? Including the right to consume alcohol as an adult?

That is how wars are won. The drones follow the orders of those who know what they're doing and....Voila! Unwavering obedience is a requirement. And the government isn't forcing anyone (unless there's a draft). Joining the military is a voluntary contract and you know what you could be required to do before you do it. If you don't want to go to war, join the air force. If you might want to go to war, join the navy. If you would like to go to war, join the army or the marines. Military members do get quite a few perks though like free healthcare, free college, etc.

I for one am tired of not being as free as I could be so I'm not re-enlisting.

No, DIEING is the ultimate price!!!

I disagree but that's another conversation.

Haven't you ever seen Jarhead?

Really, dude? Really? :huh:

The effort is meant to be a satirical statement after California voters outlawed gay marriage in 2008, largely on the argument that a ban is needed to protect the sanctity of traditional marriage.

I think its pretty awesome. Unfortunately people are so stupid they probably won't recognize their hypocrisy even when it kicks them in the balls/vag. And those who do will just ignore it. I could not believe it when my home state outlawed gay marriage. For shame!

Marriage is a joke anyway. It was originally a mechanism for perpetuating the species, the continuation of bloodlines and establishing lines of inheritance. As time went on it was built into religions and became a moral imperative. Romantic love came into the picture and screwed everything up even worse (thank you 50% + divorce rate). It developed an element of financial sensibility and now it has become a legal issue. How do humans take things that are so simple and screw them up so badly?

Legalize gay marriage, marijuana, and prostitution.

[Haro!]

They should just make marriage illegal.

[Caster13]

They should just make marriage illegal.

This is not shocking at all coming from you.