Swiss arrest Polanski on US request in sex case

[loplop]

ZURICH – Director Roman Polanski was arrested by Swiss police as he flew in for the Zurich Film Festival and faces possible extradition to the United States for having sex with a 13-year-old girl in 1977, authorities said Sunday.

Polanski was scheduled to receive an honorary award at the festival when he was apprehended Saturday at the airport, the Swiss Justice Ministry said in a statement. It said U.S. authorities have sought the arrest of the 76-year-old director around the world since 2005.

"There was a valid arrest request and we knew when he was coming," ministry spokesman Guido Balmer told The Associated Press. "That's why he was taken into custody."

Polanski, the director of such classic films as "Chinatown" and "Rosemary's Baby," fled the U.S. for France in 1978, a year after pleading guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse with the underage girl.

Polanski has asked a U.S. appeals court in California to overturn a judges' refusal to throw out his case. He claims misconduct by the now-deceased judge who had arranged a plea bargain and then reneged on it.

His victim, Samantha Geimer, who long ago identified herself publicly, has joined in Polanski's bid for dismissal, saying she wants the case to be over. She sued Polanski and reached an undisclosed settlement.

Justice Minister Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf said the director will remain in Zurich until the conclusion of the extradition proceedings. The United States now has 60 days to file a formal request for Polanski's transfer, she said.

A U.S. Justice Department spokeswoman in Washington declined to comment on the case Sunday.

Polanski's French lawyer, Georges Kiejman, told France-Inter radio that it was "too early to know" if Polanski would be extradited.

"The proceedings must take their course," he said Sunday. "For now we are trying to have the arrest warrant lifted in Zurich."

Kiejman later told The Associated Press that France does not extradite its citizens and that U.S. authorities had never asked France to prosecute Polanski at home.

Balmer said Polanski's arrest was not influenced by politics, even though the director has often traveled or stayed in the country. Novelist Robert Harris, whose book "Ghost" is being made into a movie by the director, told Britain's Press Association that Polanski owns a house in Gstaad, which he has visited regularly while filming in Germany, and that there was never any warning he faced arrest.

In the Swiss capital of Bern, Widmer-Schlumpf told reporters that Switzerland had only one legal option for dealing with Polanski's visit, and rejected the idea that there was any U.S. pressure in ordering the arrest.

"I know his films, they impressed me very much," she said, but she underlined that Polanski could not be given special treatment because of his artistic talent, especially because the warrant was not for a trivial complaint.

Switzerland joined Europe's passport-free area in 2008 and ended all passport checks in March on flights to and from the 24 other countries participating in the agreement. Even before then, it rarely closely monitored the identities of travelers from neighboring European countries entering Switzerland.

Balmer also rejected that the arrest was somehow aimed at winning favor with the U.S. after a series of bilateral spats over tax evasion and wealthy Americans stashing money at Swiss banking giant UBS AG.

"There is no link with any other issues in question," he told The AP.

Investigators in the U.S. learned of Polanski's planned trip days ago, giving them enough time to lay the groundwork for an arrest, said William Sorukas, chief of the U.S. Marshals Service's domestic investigations branch.

"There have been other times through the years when we have learned of his potential travel but either those efforts fell through or he didn't make the trip," Sorukas told the AP.

Earlier this year, Superior Court Judge Peter Espinoza in Los Angeles dismissed Polanski's bid to throw out the case because the director failed to appear in court to press his request, but said there was "substantial misconduct" in the handling of the original case.

In his ruling, Espinoza said he reviewed not only legal documents, but also watched the HBO documentary, "Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired," which suggests there was behind-the-scenes manipulations by a now-retired prosecutor who was not assigned to the case.

Polanski has lived for the past three decades in France, where his career has continued to flourish; he received a directing Oscar in absentia for the 2002 movie "The Pianist." He is married to French actress Emanuelle Seigner, with whom he has two children.

He has avoided traveling to countries likely to extradite him. For instance, he testified by video link from Paris in a 2005 libel trial in London against Vanity Fair magazine. He did not want to enter Britain for fear of being arrested.

Rolf Haferkamp, a spokesman for prosecutors in Duisburg, Germany, declined to comment on why Polanski was not detained or arrested in Germany when he visited in 2008.

In Paris, Culture Minister Frederic Mitterrand said that he was in contact with French President Nicolas Sarkozy "who is following the case with great attention and shares the minister's hope that the situation can be quickly resolved."

Mitterrand added that he was "dumbfounded" by Polanski's arrest, adding that he "strongly regrets that a new ordeal is being inflicted on someone who has already experienced so many of them."

Those comments referred, in part, to the fact that Polanski, a native of France who was taken to Poland by his parents, escaped Krakow's Jewish ghetto as a child during World War II and lived off the charity of strangers. His mother died at the Nazis' Auschwitz death camp.

Polanski worked his way into filmmaking in Poland, gaining an Oscar nomination for best foreign-language film in 1964 for his "Knife in the Water." Offered entry to Hollywood, he directed the classic "Rosemary's Baby" in 1968.

But his life was shattered again in 1969 when his wife, actress Sharon Tate, and four other people were gruesomely murdered in Los Angeles by followers of cult figure Charles Manson. Tate was eight months pregnant at the time.

Polanski went on to make another American classic, "Chinatown," released in 1974.

In 1977, he was accused of raping the teenager while photographing her during a modeling session. The girl said Polanski plied her with champagne and part of a Quaalude pill at Jack Nicholson's house while the actor was away. She said that, despite her protests, he performed oral sex, intercourse and sodomy on her.

Polanski was allowed to plead guilty to one of six charges, unlawful sexual intercourse, and was sent to prison for 42 days of evaluation.

Lawyers agreed that would be his full sentence, but the judge tried to renege on the plea bargain. Aware the judge would sentence him to more prison time and require his voluntary deportation, Polanski fled.

Zurich Film Festival organizers said Polanski's detention had caused "shock and dismay," but said they would go ahead with Sunday's planned retrospective of the director's work, including "Knife in the Water," "Chinatown" and "The Pianist." The festival runs from Sept. 24 to Oct. 4.

The Swiss Directors Association sharply criticized authorities for what it deemed "not only a grotesque farce of justice, but also an immense cultural scandal."

France's Foreign Ministry said the French ambassador to Switzerland and the consul general in Zurich have contacted Swiss authorities about arranging a consular visit for Polanski.

Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner spoke to his Swiss counterpart, Micheline Calmy-Rey, to urge that "Polanski's rights be fully respected and that the case would quickly result in a favorable outcome," the statement said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090927/ap_on_en_mo/eu_switzerland_polanski

[Bernard_Monsha]

Good, he is a pedo.

[Caster13]

My thoughts exactly Bernard.

[Till]

Better late then never. Hopefully he wont manage to weasel his way out this time...

[goddessofanime]

I wonder what happened for someone to finally arrest him?

[loplop]

He finally turned up in a country with a extradition treaty with the US when they could exactly pinpoint his whereabouts.

[autsiticanime]

Am I the only one finding this Ironic? A man whose wife was killed by the Manson family is under arrest himself?

[Jatz]

This ******* was in Rush Hour 3 too. Made me want to puke.

[Haro!]

... Why do I have mixed feelings about this?

[Daishikaze]

Alot of Europeans want him freed apparently. I guess they condone pedophilia

[KatayokuのTenshi]

1977
U.S. authorities have sought the arrest of the 76-year-old director around the world since 2005
2009

Take your time America. :rolleyes:

He finally turned up in a country with a extradition treaty with the US when they could exactly pinpoint his whereabouts.

According to that article he's had a house there for years. I doubt that's the reason. I mean it's not like he's been a recluse.

[tenshi_a]

Alot of Europeans want him freed apparently. I guess they condone pedophilia

A lot of people consider the matter to be closed and done with already, since the woman who was the girl in question doesn't want him to be jailed anymore, and [as far as everyone knows] he hasn't done anything like that in the past 30 years. Also, they feel that he poses no threat to US citizens since he steers clear from the country.

So, not requiring reform and not posing a threat, they feel he shouldn't be in an American prison.

I think they're trying to rationalise stuff because they're probably just big fans of his work.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Ya know, maybe it's because I liked Rosemary's Baby and maybe because I've seen every Charles Manson documentary, I find it hard to hold it against the guy.

First of all, it was the 1970s.

Second of all, the girl in question knew he was thinking bad things about her, yet agreed to come back for a second photoshoot. I don't know, I just find it hard to to sympathize for that, it's like sticking your head in a lions mouth.

And third of all I wasn't there. Of course it sounds terrible if you recount the events as "Roman Polanski raped a 13-year-old and ran away from the country for over two decades."

[Bernard_Monsha]

A lot of people consider the matter to be closed and done with already, since the woman who was the girl in question doesn't want him to be jailed anymore, and [as far as everyone knows] he hasn't done anything like that in the past 30 years. Also, they feel that he poses no threat to US citizens since he steers clear from the country.

Yes, that certainly excuses him for drugging and raping a 13 year old girl. :rolleyes:

[tenshi_a]

Yes, that certainly excuses him for drugging and raping a 13 year old girl. :rolleyes:

Apparently. It is somewhat strange, I'm sure these are people who would normally be crying out for a guy to be castrated and locked away for life, if he was some ordinary guy living in their neighbourhood.

[Soluzar]

Yes, that certainly excuses him for drugging and raping a 13 year old girl. :rolleyes:
I dare say the main reasons people are defending him are that he is now 70+ years old, and the offense is 30+ years old. That doesn't excuse what he did, but it makes his eventual trial and probable punishment seem a little odd to some. Personally I'm just wondering why US authorities didn't seek extradition in the 30 years which have passed.

[Jatz]

A lot of people consider the matter to be closed and done with already, since the woman who was the girl in question doesn't want him to be jailed anymore, and [as far as everyone knows] he hasn't done anything like that in the past 30 years. Also, they feel that he poses no threat to US citizens since he steers clear from the country.

As Bernard said that means nothing. He committed a crime, what he did, or don't do, for the past however long doesn't matter.

[Caster13]

Apparently. It is somewhat strange, I'm sure these are people who would normally be crying out for a guy to be castrated and locked away for life.

And that's exactly what should be done.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Apparently. It is somewhat strange, I'm sure these are people who would normally be crying out for a guy to be castrated and locked away for life, if he was some ordinary guy living in their neighbourhood.

Well, he has not made a good film since Chinatown. So it can't be because he is a great director.

[tenshi_a]

LOL, everyone's quoting me like I'm the one trying to keep him out of prison. -_-;

I'm just mystified as to how Roman Polanski became the world's most celebrated and reknowned child rapist. Like, somehow it's ok and he's absolved in so many people's minds. That really fascinates me.

I don't really care about which way the story goes, I'm following it because it's making people behave in ways which they would normally consider abhorrent... and they haven't even noticed, or I've missed something important.

Well, he has not made a good film since Chinatown. So it can't be because he is a great director.

Last thing I saw that he directed was in the late 1990s - a stage musical called Tanz Der Vampire, based on The Fearless Vampire Killers (or pardon me but your teeth are in my neck). It was pretty epic, gothic, large-scale, sexy, and breath-taking but still funny - you wouldn't think a comedy parody film would translate to a musical that's not made of facepalm and fail. I really like it.

They tried to take it to Broadway as "Dance Of The Vampires", so he wasn't involved (since he couldn't be), and it was 100% embarrassment, and lasted a week or something.

I dunno about his more recent work in film though.

[Trefellin]

And that's exactly what should be done.

No. He should be extradited, brought to trial, convicted on solid evidence and receive an appropriate prison sentence, held in protective custody if it's necessary.

[CrossboneGundam]

No. He should be extradited, brought to trial, convicted on solid evidence and receive an appropriate prison sentence, held in protective custody if it's necessary.

Who said there was solid evidence?

Of course, the fact that he ran the hell away strongly suggests he's less than innocent.

[Trefellin]

Who said there was solid evidence?

Of course, the fact that he ran the hell away strongly suggests he's less than innocent.

Oh, I just assumed because of the way that way everyone was talking about it. I don't really know the exact details. :-"

*fidget*

[goddessofanime]

I dare say the main reasons people are defending him are that he is now 70+ years old, and the offense is 30+ years old. That doesn't excuse what he did, but it makes his eventual trial and probable punishment seem a little odd to some. Personally I'm just wondering why US authorities didn't seek extradition in the 30 years which have passed.

Also:

Heaven forbid we should prosecute a celebrity, even though he raped a teenager :rolleyes:

I am surprised that this is happening now though. Even the victim doesn't want to thru with it.

[Holy Knight]

Not to defend him or anything, but shouldn't this case be closed since they reached an out-of-court settlement, the victim no longer pursues him (and I hear even pardons him), not to mention it happened 30+ years ago (more than likely as a result of Polanski's wife's death)? :unsure:

Isn't there some kind of unruly fanaticism going on the part of prosecutors here? It's no wonder people pardon him; they just want peace by putting it behind them.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Not to defend him or anything, but shouldn't this case be closed since they reached an out-of-court settlement, the victim no longer pursues him (and I hear even pardons him), not to mention it happened 30+ years ago (more than likely as a result of Polanski's wife's death)? :unsure:

My first wife died, yet I did not feel the urge to go out and drug and rape a 13 year old girl. So I do not see the connection. Also if you want to start overturning judgments based on participants changing their minds, Roe vs Wade would be the first on the docket.

Isn't there some kind of unruly fanaticism going on the part of prosecutors here? It's no wonder people pardon him; they just want peace by putting it behind them.

No, he ran away and has been avoiding the US for years. He should also receive extra punishment like flogging for making Pirates.

[Trefellin]

I'm glad that Polanski is finally in custody because now all the fearful speculation about my true identity can be put to rest.

[waltsoph3]

Well as the old saying goes..

You can run but you can't hide.

Pure slam dunk in my eyes.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Just to remind you of what he did. (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicover1.html)

[loplop]

Isn't there some kind of unruly fanaticism going on the part of prosecutors here? It's no wonder people pardon him; they just want peace by putting it behind them.

There's not statute of limitations on Rape and similar crimes. From what I've read, there has been a bench warrant for his arrest since he left the country.

[CrossboneGundam]

shouldn't this case be closed since they reached an out-of-court settlement, the victim no longer pursues him (and I hear even pardons him), not to mention it happened 30+ years ago (more than likely as a result of Polanski's wife's death)? :unsure:

Isn't there some kind of unruly fanaticism going on the part of prosecutors here? It's no wonder people pardon him; they just want peace by putting it behind them.

No, he plead guilty as part of a plea deal and then fled the country without serving his sentence.

His victim has been quoted numerous times saying he ruined her life. She doesn't want to testify in a new trial because she's tired of reliving the trauma, not because she's pardoned him.

[333jeffery]

From what I heard on CNN, Polanski was okay with the original plea deal. But, the judge in the original case decided to reject the terms of the deal, and decided to sentence him to something like 50 years in jail. That's when he skipped town....

[Dalmain]

It's about time. This guy should pay for his crime..a terrible crime. Europe and the hollywood idiots have protected him long enough. He was living the high life in Europe. The girl now a woman has moved on, but you can't excuse raping a 13 year girl.

[Caster13]

There's not statute of limitations on Rape and similar crimes. From what I've read, there has been a bench warrant for his arrest since he left the country.

No, there is a statute of limitations on Rape. However there is no statute of limitations on being found guilty of a crime, sentenced, and then fleeing the country.

Why people in Europe have no problem with this is beyond me.

[tenshi_a]

Meanwhile...

Poland okays forcible castration for pedophiles (http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE58O4LE20090925?rpc=401&)...

Isn't reading the news fun? :D

[Soluzar]

Why people in Europe have no problem with this is beyond me.
Only some people. Personally I'd be glad to see Polansky face a jail term for his crime, if he is/has been found guilty. The ones raising a stink about it seem to be the art/cinema snob crowd. There was a nice editorial in The Independant today pointing out that most rapists, whether statutory or otherwise do not receive an outpouring of support.

I think it's a bit unfortunate that so much time has elapsed, but Polanski is still guilty. It's sad that it means a man of his advanced years should go to prison, but if he had not fled to begin with he would have been out by now...

[KatayokuのTenshi]

LOL, everyone's quoting me like I'm the one trying to keep him out of prison. -_-;

It's because people want to argue about this but no-one's actually disagreeing.

[Caster13]

Meanwhile...

Poland okays forcible castration for pedophiles (http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE58O4LE20090925?rpc=401&)...

Isn't reading the news fun? :D

**** YEA! Poland's got some smart people in it's government. :thumbsup:

[The Million Dollar Prons]

(more than likely as a result of Polanski's wife's death)? :unsure:

Actually, if I remember right, this happened a decade or so after the Family jammed.

My first wife died, yet I did not feel the urge to go out and drug and rape a 13 year old girl.

Your first wife was tied up and stabbed to death by a group of drug-crazed maniacs while she begged for her life?



But that's irrelevant, although tragic.


What I don't get, and what sounds fishy to me is that she got naked and got into his jacuuzi. Was that because she's drunk? Because I thought most girls have a "creepy old guy" radar.

**** YEA! Poland's got some smart people in it's government. :thumbsup:


Dang it Kenpachi do you even think before you slam your head on the keyboard and hit the post button.

[Samurai Drifter]

Actual photo of Roman Polanski:

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/25567403.png

[Caster13]

:lol::lol::lol:

[Soluzar]

What I don't get, and what sounds fishy to me is that she got naked and got into his jacuuzi. Was that because she's drunk? Because I thought most girls have a "creepy old guy" radar,

Drunk and taking 'ludes, which basically amounts to the most relaxed a human being can get while still awake.

[Caster13]

'ludes? Sorry don't know what that's short for.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

IT'S CONSENTING AS LONG AS SHE DOESN'T BITE IT.

- Prons

and for the love of the British Broadcasting Corporation, change your avatar back to Ranma 1\2, Biscuit!

[Soluzar]

'ludes? Sorry don't know what that's short for.
Quaaludes, a really popular tranquillizer from a couple of decades back. They were massively abused by pretty much everyone at the time, so I hear. Personally I was a lot too young to know anything about that when it happened.

[goddessofanime]

Only some people. Personally I'd be glad to see Polansky face a jail term for his crime, if he is/has been found guilty. The ones raising a stink about it seem to be the art/cinema snob crowd. There was a nice editorial in The Independant today pointing out that most rapists, whether statutory or otherwise do not receive an outpouring of support.



Ever read about Mumia al Jabal? It's a famous case, especially around my way. Basically he shot a cop and because he published some books in jail, the art/literati crowd wanted him to be set free and proclaimed he was innocent.

That's what the caterwauling over Polanski reminds me of: Because he is an ARTISTE he is innocent! :rolleyes:

[Reinas]

Such a shame it took this long to arrest him. I don't understand his supporters...he manipulated, took advantage and raped a 13 y/o girl. I don't understand how that can be overlooked just because it's been 30+ years since the incident.

[Arnold]

Well, he has not made a good film since Chinatown. So it can't be because he is a great director.

The Pianist was absolutely brilliant. And that's all I'll say about this issue.

[Caster13]

Quaaludes, a really popular tranquillizer from a couple of decades back. They were massively abused by pretty much everyone at the time, so I hear. Personally I was a lot too young to know anything about that when it happened.

If he did this today he might have used GHB.

[Bernard_Monsha]

The Pianist was absolutely brilliant. And that's all I'll say about this issue.

No it wasn't. Worst Oscar winner in any category since My Cousin Vinny.

[Soluzar]

Ever read about Mumia al Jabal? It's a famous case, especially around my way. Basically he shot a cop and because he published some books in jail, the art/literati crowd wanted him to be set free and proclaimed he was innocent.

That's what the caterwauling over Polanski reminds me of: Because he is an ARTISTE he is innocent! :rolleyes:
Nope. I never heard of him, but it sounds about the same! :lol:

[Caster13]

No it wasn't. Worst Oscar winner in any category since My Cousin Vinny.

What are you nuts!? My Cousin Vinny is awesome!

[Bernard_Monsha]

What are you nuts!? My Cousin Vinny is awesome!

The fact that you think it is "awesome" gives strong support that the opposite is true.

Martin Scorsese and Woody ,I married my stepdaughter, Allen have come out in support of Polanski. Evidently they think because they are Artiste they should get diplomatic immunity form the law while attending a film festival. Asshats.

[Jatz]

The Pianist was absolutely brilliant. And that's all I'll say about this issue.

Which is the problem, that has nothing to do with the issue.

[Spadesy]

I just seriously want to grab up anybody supporting the release of this bastard and say,

"He raped a child. Why do you think he should be released?"

"Erm, well, uh, he made some good movies and stuff-"

STFU, hang 'em by his scrotum, no quarter, regardless of occupation.

[Old Ape Face]

I just seriously want to grab up anybody supporting the release of this bastard and say,

"He raped a child. Why do you think he should be released?"

"Erm, well, uh, he made some good movies and stuff-"

STFU, hang 'em by his scrotum, no quarter, regardless of occupation.

I wouldn't really account this guy on movies really, I'd more or less think of the time line and how long ago his actions took place.

[Spadesy]

Probably. I personally believe, however, regardless of how much time has passed, regardless of how anybody feels, regardless of somebody's work...there is zero tolerance for rape. Especially of a child. I reiterate: hang him by his scrotum.

[Trefellin]

I reiterate: hang him by his scrotum.

Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution

"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."

[Siendra]

Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution

"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."


If you used them to rape a thirteen year-old girl I'd hardly call losing them "cruel". Unusual, maybe - but that's just a matter of enforcing it more often.

[Trefellin]

If you used them to rape a thirteen year-old girl I'd hardly call losing them "cruel". Unusual, maybe - but that's just a matter of enforcing it more often.

Cruel is cruel and I wouldn't want to live in a country that is no better than a rapist.

[sailornyanko]

What I don't get, and what sounds fishy to me is that she got naked and got into his jacuuzi. Was that because she's drunk? Because I thought most girls have a "creepy old guy" radar.

Not if she's from small-town Minnesota. :ph34r:

He'll probably serve a shorter prison sentence and perhaps be as lucky as house arrest. Gotta admit the guy was smart. Instead of serving prison being young he lived a rather cush life in France and now can plead he's old and weak and get a more lenient sentence.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

What the hell, the only person that talks any sense in this thread of Trefellin? What's up with that?

[Trefellin]

What the hell, the only person that talks any sense in this thread of Trefellin? What's up with that?

That is surprising, a "Kodak moment" if I've ever seen one.

I've never seen one... Well, until now. We should commemorate this occasion and as I always say, "whether a wedding or a funeral, the best way to celebrate a very special day is with a very special gangbang."

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Let's ignore the gang and just have YOU AND I.

I HAVE ENOUGH BODY HAIR FOR THE BOTH OF US

[Caster13]

*runs to toilet and vomits until some drops of blood come up* :x


I like Spadesy's take on this, except with my preferred punishment there is no scrotum for which he can be hanged by.

BTW it's actually no surprise that he'd go to France, those pansy *** cheese eating surrender monkeys hate us so they'd have no problem harboring a fugitive fleeing the American government.

[Spadesy]

Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution

"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted."


Did you really take my post so seriously that you felt you should quote the 8th Amendment? Really?

Inflicting cruel punishment is how I think this pedo should be handled. Sorry. The fact that it won't become reality is a no-brainer.

[CrossboneGundam]

Cruel is cruel and I wouldn't want to live in a country that is no better than a rapist.

Well, good thing you live in CANADA. If you don't like America demanding justice from pedos, you should go fly to england and bow to your QUeen or something. Oh wait, she's a powerless figurehead who lives off of the charity of the parliament, never mind.

[Trefellin]

I HAVE ENOUGH BODY HAIR FOR THE BOTH OF US

Hey, me too.

BEAR FIGHT!!!

[Arnold]

Did you really take my post so seriously that you felt you should quote the 8th Amendment? Really?

Inflicting cruel punishment is how I think this pedo should be handled. Sorry. The fact that it won't become reality is a no-brainer.

So you're in support of the "except for pedos" amendment to the constitution?

[Spadesy]

So you're in support of the "except for pedos" amendment to the constitution?

In this case, eye for an eye. Where's pedobear when you need him?

[Caster13]

^^Hell yea I do.

[goddessofanime]

Cruel is cruel and I wouldn't want to live in a country that is no better than a rapist.

Then don't rape and drug up a 13 year old!

[Trefellin]

Then don't rape and drug up a 13 year old!

...What? :huh:

I meant that the actions of the government are the actions of it's people since it is legitimized by our consent and that I wouldn't want my government to commit barbarous acts in my name seeing as I refuse to be a torturer and mutilator.

[Caster13]

Are you a pedo?

[Trefellin]

Are you a pedo?

No, I just don't want to stand for torture and mutilation.

[Arnold]

In this case, eye for an eye. Where's pedobear when you need him?

The road to fascism is a slippery slope. Once you make some exceptions, you end up allowing a whole lot more.

Nor do I think punishment should be meted out based on how the defendant makes you feel.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

To be fair, Spadesy (which I always thought was spelled Spadsey until very recently) is just giving his own personal opinion, not suggesting we really make a legal ammendment to hang pedophiles by their scrotums.

[Spadesy]

The road to fascism is a slippery slope. Once you make some exceptions, you end up allowing a whole lot more.

Nor do I think punishment should be meted out based on how the defendant makes you feel.

You too?

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3319/uberfacepalm.th.jpg (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/uberfacepalm.jpg/)

All joking and sarcasm aside, I wonder why anytime people make comments about what should happen to a disgusting *** human being, such as this child rapist, somebody, somewhere is always quick to remind us that "he's human too, don't be cruel to him!" :rolleyes: Thanks for reminding me about the rights that this person has (that he doesn't deserve). I wasn't born yesterday.