Michael Jackson reported dead.

[Bernard_Monsha]

He was transported to the ER and now reports are comeing out he was DOA.


Michael Jackson Dies (http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/michael-jackson-dies-death-dead-cardiac-arrest/)

Posted Jun 25th 2009 5:20PM by TMZ Staff

We've just learned Michael Jackson has died. He was 50.

Michael suffered a cardiac arrest earlier this afternoon at his Holmby Hills home and paramedics were unable to revive him. We're told when paramedics arrived Jackson had no pulse and they never got a pulse back.

A source tells us Jackson was dead when paramedics arrived.

Once at the hospital, the staff tried to resuscitate him but they had no luck.

We're told one of the staff members at Jackson's home called 911.

LaToya ran in the hospital sobbing after Jackson was pronounced dead.

Michael is survived by three children: Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr., Paris Michael Katherine Jackson and Prince "Blanket" Michael Jackson II.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

This just can't be. I don't believe it.

[goddessofanime]

Just coming here to post that.

Watching it on CNN now




*goes to listen to Jackson Five in honor.

Goddamn......this is just tragic...

[Bradster]

Beat me to it by minutes, with the same link. Found it while following the Farah story.

All I really remember about him (beyond being a bit... eccentric) is how popular the Thriller album was during high school, 'cause my taste in music doesn't go that way. Oh, and the glove, and the Moonwalking, and the chimp, and the iconic red leather jacket....

OK, who's going to be the third? And so close together, too...

[ryushe]

oh, just made a thread about this.

Rest in peace King of Pop... =(

[goddessofanime]

Beat me to it by minutes, with the same link. Found it while following the Farah story.

All I really remember about him (beyond being a bit... eccentric) is how popular the Thriller album was during high school, 'cause my taste in music doesn't go that way.

OK, who's going to be the third? And so close together, too...

I'd say he is the third...

Ed Macmahon, Farrah Fawcett and now MJ

[lav2k4]

TMZ Bernard? Come on man.

[Bernard_Monsha]

It was sad watching him disintegrate from a great entertainer to a creepy little man with questionable sideline activities.


TMZ Bernard? Come on man.


http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10597267

[ryushe]

^^ Naw, it's on CNN now

Edit: But they saying he hospitalized....

[Chidori Raikiri]

Wow. He's pretty young to be dying of a heart attack.

[waltsoph3]

OMG! Yeah i just heard a few moments ago. I can't belive it. :( Man...this truly has been the year of a lot of memorable stars passing away. He was about to start his This is it. tour soon. Some said it was to be his last tour. Man what a shame. :( I loved his music. MJ inspired me to sing(im talking back in the 80's before all the controversy.)

Still what a heart breaker. RIP MJ and hope you find peace in the after life.

[goddessofanime]

HLN has a quote from Joe Jackson saying that his son is 'not doing well'.

It's not looking good guys...

[Bradster]

I'd say he is the third...

Ed Macmahon, Farrah Fawcett and now MJ

D'oh! The Sidekick completely slipped my mind. I guess the other celebrities can breathe easy for a little while.

[loplop]

I remember in the Dirty Harry movie, The Dead Pool, Callahan's partner makes a comment about celebrities dying in threes. I never realized that it was true until I saw that movie 10 years ago and started to think about it. I wondered who would be the third one this morning after hearing about Farrah Fawcett.

[ryushe]

BBC is saying he's in a coma now...

[goddessofanime]

so is CNN.

[Soluzar]

...he got better? I was going to comment on how this was the end of one of the most unusual lives in recent memory, but now it's not really the end? Certainly Jackson will be remembered, although sadly not for the right reasons. If we never heard anything about him after the album Bad, he would have been remembered as a great celebrity.

[KT Kore]

CNN is reporting he's died too, but they themselves haven't confirmed. The LA Times say so.

[Tidusauron12]

Man. *Waits*

[AsukaxSohryux]

OMG I hope its not true...jesus first Farrah Fawcett, now MJ wth is going on >.<

[Kevin K]

ya hes dead, if paramedics arrived on scene and if he was wasnt breathing and was pulseless for more than 8 mins prior to arrival then his chance of survival drops dramatically.

[loplop]

CNN is now saying he has died

[goddessofanime]

It's official.

AP confirms it.

:(

[loplop]

From the LA Times . . . all time PST[Updated at 3:15 p.m.: Pop star Michael Jackson was pronounced dead by doctors this afternoon after arriving at a hospital in a deep coma, city and law enforcement sources told The Times.]

[Updated at 2:46 p.m.: Jackson is in a coma and his family is arriving at his bedside, a law enforcement source told The Times.

Jackson was rushed to Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center this afternoon by Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics.

Fire Capt. Steve Ruda said paramedics responded to a call at Jackson's home at 12:26 p.m. He was not breathing when they arrived. The paramedics performed cardiopulmonary resuscitation and took him to the hospital, Ruda told The Times.

[Updated at 2:12 p.m.: Paramedics were called to a home in the 100 block of Carolwood Drive off Sunset Boulevard. Jackson had rented the Bel-Air home for $100,000 a month. It was described as a French chateau estate built in 2002 with seven bedrooms, 13 bathrooms, 12 fireplaces and a theater.

The home is about 2 1/2 miles, about a six-minute drive, from UCLA Medical Center. An earlier version of this post incorrectly described the time to travel between the home and hospital as two minutes.]

The news comes as Jackson, 50, was attempting a comeback after years of tabloid headlines, most notably his trial and acquittal on child molestation charges.

In May, The Times reported that Jackson had rented the Bel-Air residence and was rehearsing for a series of 50 sold-out shows in London's O2 Arena. Jackson had won the backing of two billionaires to get the so-called "King of Pop" back on stage.

His backers envision the shows at AEG's O2 as an audition for a career rebirth that could ultimately encompass a three-year world tour, a new album, movies, a Graceland-like museum, musical revues in Las Vegas and Macau, and even a "Thriller" casino. Such a rebound could wipe out Jackson's massive debt.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b131173_michael_jackson_pops_thrilling_k ing.html


E online has a lengthy report about his death as well as a brief history of his life.

[Trefellin]

And thus ends the horribly tragic life of a freakish icon. At least it's all over.

What happens to his debt?

[Bradster]

I remember in the Dirty Harry movie, The Dead Pool, Callahan's partner makes a comment about celebrities dying in threes. I never realized that it was true until I saw that movie 10 years ago and started to think about it.

I think that might've been a contributing factor to the popularity of making note of when it happens like this, appropriately referred to now by the eponymous phrase. The intertoobes and near-instant relaying of information nowadays certainly helps.

(not that celebrities don't also die singly... we just don't make as big a deal about it unless they're also a big deal)

[Jae Hoon]

Good one less child molester.

[goddessofanime]

I'd imagine that his debt goes to whomever is named in his will...

Had to laugh at this comment though on E:

'He couldn't let Farrah hug the spotlight'

[Trefellin]

Good one less child molester.

Alleged... Alleged child molester. :unsure:

[Tidusauron12]

Well, now I have to listen to my mom's ******** rants. -_-

[Illusions-chan]

Damn, even though his personal life was insane, he was an incredible musical master. I mean, he was so talented, not just vocally, but with so many instruments and his compositions. He made really incredible music. It's a shame that in spite of all of that, his life took the forefront and now, in his death, we don't have good things to say about him. I just hope he finds peace and his family as well.

"In our darkest hour
In my deepest despair
Will you still care?
Will you be there?
In my trials
And my tribulations
Through our doubts
And frustrations
In my violence
In my turbulence
Through my fear
And my confessions
In my anguish and my pain
Through my joy and my sorrow
In the promise of another tomorrow
I'll never let you part
For you're always in my heart." - Will You Be There

[Gaming_Bum]

I guess it's true what they say. If you leave Neverland you grow old and Eventually die. :(

[tenshi_a]

Wow, this is quite shocking. It's on the news on the radio right now, BBC are CONFIRMING he's dead, and it reminds me of the way it felt on the night I woke up to listen to the radio telling me about Princess Diana having died. It's that big.

I was just thinking when I read about Farrah Fawcett how young she was dying at 62, and then... Michael Jackson? but he's only 50 years old?! Wow.

I mean, there were so many things like TV appearances or court appearances where he was "too ill" to appear, but everyone just thought "he's just trying to get out of it!", didn't they?

[Trefellin]

This doesn't surprise me at all. He's been walking around looking like a corpse for years.

[loplop]

This may sound morbid, but I think I need to watch The Dead Pool tonight considering the events the last few days

[The Million Dollar Prons]

About 20 minutes before the AP reported the singer died, Geraldo Riera started a sentence about Micheal Jackson with "We can't put our finger on the pulse of this issue,"


I thought that was pretty awkward.

[Old Ape Face]

Wow, Half the Beatles, Pink Floyd, most of led Zeppelin, most of Black Sabath, Most of Queen, Rolling Stones, Areosmith.

All out lived the King of Pop?

God must hate pop music.

[Midoriko87]

Whoa, I can't believe it. When conventional medicine wasn't able to help Farrah and she flew overseas seeking treatment, I think I lost hope, then. Still, I thought it would be a few more months still. But this kinda came out of nowhere. Well, there have been reports on gossip sites about Michael being hospitalized, now and then, but, you know....

Certainly Jackson will be remembered, although sadly not for the right reasons.

I doubt it. Well, I think people who were never really fans to begin with will feel that way. But, imo, the majority of fans/former fans still carried some kind of respect for the man, even at his lowest point. His music and the memories are just too strong for that.

[KT Kore]

RIP King of Pop. He may have been on the weird side but that doesn't affect his amazing contributions to the entertainment industry. I absolutely loved his music and performances from the 70s, 80s and early 90s. Entertainers like him don't come around very often so he'll be missed.

[Sora N]

King of Pop please rest in peace.

[trunkschan90]

What the heck is with every star dying all of a sudden O.o First Ed Mcmahon, then Farrah Fawcet, and now Micheal Jackson :(

[animeotaku99]

So... will he be making a new Thriller video in a few weeks now?

[Old Ape Face]

As much as I'm suprised that this happened, I mean I remember Mike when he was sane back when I was only growing up.

But hearing all this weird stuff he's been doing and how he changed his body more times than I'd like to even consider him human, it really doesn't hit me hard to see him go.

I would be more depressed to hear Ozzy or Jimmy Page **** the bed, becuase well they're still making music, and even though Ozzy is passed his time in making music he's still an icon for many to worship.

Perhaps I was just never a true Michael Jackson fan. It's just this really feels odd.

[A Dead Spy]

Actually, I assumed he's been dead for over 20 years.

Warning: May be too soon. (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30940)

[Till]

Will never be another Michael Jackson. The music Industry and modern jaded, cynical culture just can't make sustainable megastar's with god given actual talent like him anymore. RIP MJ

[autsiticanime]

It's the first thing I saw today...I'm shocked and feel sorry for those fans who were waiting for his concert. No offence, but I'm still half expecting this be some gimmick for the concerts...but it isn't heading that way, is it?

I remember what someone said on these forums after Bea Arthur and Don Deluise died, saying the next will be big...s/he wasn't kidding.

And NOW I hear something bad may've happened to Jeff Goldblum.

What a cruel world.

[tenshi_a]

There are just non-stop tributes on the news all night, it seems.

Funny how everyone's suddenly so sympathetic. They're wishing him peace in death, and feeling guilty that they never gave him any peace in life. They're saying how sorry they feel for him, saying that he never seemed happy, they're saying how they wish he was surrounded by better, less exploitative people... and yet... everyone was "grr, paedophile, weirdo, don't talk about him", right up until this news broke.

In the events of his death, like the events surrounding his life... everybody is wandering about saying "this is a bit surreal, isn't it?"

I wonder if there will be any further details when the dust has settled - it's very unusual for someone to die of a heart attack so young.

I heard someone say "you can't live your life believing you're Peter Pan, you can't treat your body like a gymnasium"... I guess we do have stark evidence of that.

[Midoriko87]

I just suddenly thought of his children; I hope they'll be well taken care of.

[Old Ape Face]

What a cruel world.

Cruel and tasteless, that is the order of life. It's humanities job to bring out the liveliness of our spirits to the world.

This is exactly the message that Death Magnetic has been trying to bring out, death happens to anyone and everyone without warning or sympathy. It draws in on us like a magnet and doesn't let go.

The only difference between celebrities and normal people, is the celebrities will live on through their entertainment and their memories they've made on stage or on TV, while us normal people will disappear into the world just as we are non existent to the masses while we are alive.

This is evidence that time is moving forward and history is being written every day.

[Mr March]

"Frankly, Jackson had been acting pretty strange."

Understatement of the century :)

[Till]

I just suddenly thought of his children; I hope they'll be well taken care of.

I'm sure the birth mother's he paid off year's ago will come snooping around for them now. Time for the vultures to swarm.

[tenshi_a]

And NOW I hear something bad may've happened to Jeff Goldblum.

http://screencrave.com/2009-06-25/report-jeff-goldblum-has-died/
It has not yet been confirmed but New Zealand Police are reporting that Jeff Goldblum has fallen to his death on the set of his new movie. Officials say the actor fell more than 60 feet to his death on the Kauri Cliffs while on-set.

The 57 year-old Goldblum starred in films such as The Fly and Jurassic Park. He is currently a cast member of the TV series Law & Order: Criminal Intent.

Stay tuned for more information…
Also, his wiki entry is currently locked. Hmm, I hope this is just one of those baseless internet rumours...

[Soluzar]

And NOW I hear something bad may've happened to Jeff Goldblum.
I always liked Jeff Goldblum, I hope not.

[Scandiadream]

I am in shock about Michael Jackson. Farrah Fawcett had a long term illness. But Jacko was not sick as far as anybody knew.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Jeff Goldblum isn't dead it was a hoax

[goddessofanime]

If Jeff Goldblum had died, God truly is a wicked bastard.

[Haro!]

I'm very saddened by this news. I grew up with MJ's music. Back when I was a kid, I thought that he was the coolest living person in the world (even back then I was a huge Lennon fan so emphasis on living). To this day I would occasionally blast the music while doing chores, cooking or at work. My niece, who is 6, recently got into listening to "Smooth Criminal" and "Thriller" is quite saddened by the news. We went out to the park today, and we were reminded of his death on the radio. She tells me "[Haro!] I want to go back home now. I feel sad." Which totally brought a tear to my eye.

http://screencrave.com/2009-06-25/report-jeff-goldblum-has-died/

Also, his wiki entry is currently locked. Hmm, I hope this is just one of those baseless internet rumours...

WTF? To think he was just at the Colbert Report a few nights ago... I hope this one is false.

[tenshi_a]

Jeff Goldblum isn't dead it was a hoax

Yep:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/entertainment/2539113/Jeff-Goldblum-alive

Jeff Goldblum alive Last updated 12:11 26/06/2009

An online hoax from 1999 which claims actor Jeff Goldblum has died in New Zealand has returned.

New Zealand police have been taking calls, as have local media outlets, after the online hoax went viral again today.

The hoax - which first appeared in 1999 - involves international reports saying the actor has died, usually in a fall, while filming in New Zealand. The reports normally claim to have New Zealand Police confirmation.

Police said about midday today that they had no reports of the actor dying in New Zealand, and had not released any statements of that nature. They confirmed the hoax re-appeared every so often and that they had been taking inquiries from media this morning.

[phew]

What kind of fame can you say a person has, or what kind of media structure do we have, when they have newspapers printing "no, really, Jeff Goldblum's still alive!"

[Lemina]

This is sad news. I was hearing the radio when TMZ first confirmed it and told my coworkers about it. They were in shock too.

I really wasn't a fan of MJ (other than his 80's music), but you know what, his music transended barriers in pop culture thoughout the world. While his personal life was wierd, his music was awesome. Today's music superstars come right in the heels of MJ has he invented what a real musical production was all about. He will be missed and his music will never be forgotten though time simiilar to Elvis Presley.

[Arnold]

Stunning news.

Ignoring some of the worst of the allegations surrounding him for now, there's no denying that this guy was an amazing performer. Fred Astaire, James Brown, and Elvis rolled into one.

Whether or not he was guilty of those things, that's for someone else to judge now. Regardless, he was an amazing talent and an icon of my childhood.

[Meggles]

I just suddenly thought of his children; I hope they'll be well taken care of.

First thing I thought of. :( How old are they? Probably only around 10. That makes me sad.

[Tonyx35]

This is just a terrible day.

Michael Jackson's music was probably one the first songs I could remember the Performer's name and the song title. Used to lip sync/ karaoke to various songs when I was really young.

Rest In Peace... Michael Jackson

[goddessofanime]

That famewhore Perez weighs in...

http://www.phillyd.tv/2009/06/25/perez-hilton-is-an-*******/

No wonder dude got beat up

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

The news about this most recent celebrity death is quite a shocker...personally speaking. I was by no means any fan of his but he seemed like one of those people that would just be around for a long time.

What's annoying me now is how everyone's Facebook status has to tell me what we already know.

[SangoStrummer]

What about David Carradine? Wouldn't he have been the first of the "three?"

David Carradine.
Ed McMahon.
Farrah Faucet.

Maybe MJ is starting another trio of death?

They all were exceptional talents. I will miss David Carradine the most :(

[Nami]

I just heard of this news a few hours ago

RIP then.

[Ken-Ohki]

Just found out about this from my friend on the phone. I actually liked him and never believed all the allegations against him.

[superplough]

*resists urge to post untasteful jokes*

He did make good music, so RIP

@ Jeff Goldblum: he cant die while in NZ. It's physically impossible.

[Caster13]

One less freak in Hollywood. I agree with Jae Hoon.

"Frankly, Jackson had been acting pretty strange."

Understatement of the century :)

Bingo.

First thing I thought of. :( How old are they? Probably only around 10. That makes me sad.

That makes me sad in a different way. Who knows what he was doing to his kids.


And if Sean Connery dies soon I'm gonna lose it.

[Haruhi]

One less freak in Hollywood. I agree with Jae Hoon.



Bingo.



That makes me sad in a different way. Who knows what he was doing to his kids.


And if Sean Connery dies soon I'm gonna lose it.

What the hell is your problem?

One of the most revolutionary men that ever lived in our lifetime passed away tragically and all you're doing is posting the same crap the media has been hounding away on? Why don't you grow a brain and/or (leaning towards and here) some common sense before post? That's pretty ****ing tasteless and disrespectful.

[Mosinmatt]

He was definitely revolutionary in his music and performances. It is too bad he became a bit....odd.

I also agree with Ken on the Sean Connery point. But I will add Leslie Neilson. Those are two actors I will be truly sad to see go.

[Rukia123]

I got the news when I was getting off at work. I was just shocked then when I find out that two other icons have already pass away. Then that when knew God was at work and we need get on our knees to pray over their families during this sad time. When I got home listen to some MJ songs I have not hear in years and thinking how world is going miss great man of music.

[ryushe]

There are just non-stop tributes on the news all night, it seems.

Funny how everyone's suddenly so sympathetic. They're wishing him peace in death, and feeling guilty that they never gave him any peace in life. Ha, You and I must be watching completely different things because the media is just as bad as when he was alive.

Even though they're doing it subtly, I'm hearing a lot of news groups still dragging his name through the mud.

[sumwhatkrazy]

When i first heard the news at work i didnt belive it.
Its definately a sad day. There will never be another talent like him.
Whilst not a die hard fan, i did like some of his music as a kid and i do at times listen to some of his music and even though his career has been void for some time, the music world has sufferd a blow with his passing.
There will nevber be another, i guess we may never know all the truths but personally i belive that he was a victum of greed, his kindness being taken advantage of and the media.
No doubt he wasnt normal but i think that he just didnt know how to live in the real world, i dont think he ever took that step.
R.I.P

[Sushikins]

Heard the news while I was at work, couldn't believe it really.

[tenshi_a]

I woke up this morning to breakfast radio... it's still telling me that Michael Jackson is dead.

There'd better not be any be any real news today; we'll never hear about it! Hey UK government, I don't need to tell you this, but it's a great day for releasing bad news! No-one will notice!

Ha, You and I must be watching completely different things because the media is just as bad as when he was alive.

Even though they're doing it subtly, I'm hearing a lot of news groups still dragging his name through the mud.

In the first few hours, when the news was breaking, it really was 100% respectful - maybe it was just the one channel I was tuned to. The presenter did actually seem upset about the news.

Now, the news is a little more realistic, but they still talk about the weird reports and stuff with a little regret. The ones that are definitely real are being treated as "oh well, he was a bit odd, but he had overwhelming talent", and the rest is being regarded as unfortunate allegations, no-one is talking about them other to recognise that they were there. It is wholly respectful, everybody is talking about the music and its reach across generations, and how his career took off so young that although he died at 50, he's been a world-famous performer for about 40 years.

It really does remind me of the Princess Diana circus. She went from having a reputation in the news as a neurotic bulimic attention-seeking adulterous woman who was still slightly off the rails, to being some kind of holy figure who never did any wrong, went round curing leprosy, dug up landmines, the tabloids gave her nothing but hurt and eventually killed her etc etc etc.

It is interesting, the way the same story can be approached so differently all the way around the world. I guess it's just that it's far too disrespectful for the BBC to trash talk a celebrity in their obituary and tributes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4VCUbL7jsc
Jackson 5, Rockin' Robin, UK TV live performance, 1972. Awesome stuff.

And remember kids; sleeping in an oxygen tank to keep you young and healthy just doesn't work. ;)

[Nakey]

What the hell is your problem?

One of the most revolutionary men that ever lived in our lifetime passed away tragically and all you're doing is posting the same crap the media has been hounding away on? Why don't you grow a brain and/or (leaning towards and here) some common sense before post? That's pretty ****ing tasteless and disrespectful.

Revolutionary in what way? yes, his music was good. yes, he's musically entertained us for years on end. but in the great scheme of things, he's done no more than any other entertainer. he's not solved lifes problems, just given us a way to temporary escape them.

Sure, it's not time to lay into him (yet), but i'm not going to sit here and say he's revolutionary and should, without exception, be revered because he's passed away. Why respect the dead when we didn't have respect for him in the living? that's just being pious...

Respect where respect is due. criticism where criticism is due.

[sumwhatkrazy]

these songs seem appropriate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P06fI4n1MH8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvYygjcMDdQ

made me sad though, so i listend to some less sad songs like "stranger in moscow' & "leave me alone"
and this awesome fan made vid of "P.Y.T" MJ had the moves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdV7Kb1RG8Y

This somehow seems appropriate also;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzLZ9Pvx04s

Revolutionary in what way? yes, his music was good. yes, he's musically entertained us for years on end. but in the great scheme of things, he's done no more than any other entertainer. he's not solved lifes problems, just given us a way to temporary escape them.

Sure, it's not time to lay into him (yet), but i'm not going to sit here and say he's revolutionary and should, without exception, be revered because he's passed away. Why respect the dead when we didn't have respect for him in the living? that's just being pious...

Respect where respect is due. criticism where criticism is due.

WOW, youngster, do some researech. Man, he revolutionised music in a BIG way. From style, to dance moves to music videos, etc, the jacksons COMPLETELY changed and revolutionised music videos, before them all it was, was just teh musicians playing, no movie or theme or anything, they started that.
Thriller, that changed everything. No other artist hada global impact like Michael. No one sold records like that, entertained crowds like that. Still to this day people try to be him. Everysingle pop music video do dancxe moves influenced by him. He revolutionised how to put on a show, how to do a real entertaining live preformance/concert.
He did alot for bringing people toghter also, like blacks and whites.
Do some research.

[KT Kore]

WOW, youngster, do some researech. Man, he revolutionised music in a BIG way. From style, to dance moves to music videos, etc, the jacksons COMPLETELY changed and revolutionised music videos, before them all it was, was just teh musicians playing, no movie or theme or anything, they started that.
Thriller, that changed everything. No other artist hada global impact like Michael. No one sold records like that, entertained crowds like that. Still to this day people try to be him. Everysingle pop music video do dancxe moves influenced by him. He revolutionised how to put on a show, how to do a real entertaining live preformance/concert.
He did alot for bringing people toghter also, like blacks and whites.
Do some research.

And it's worldwide. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h-wDLOElzA) lol

[sumwhatkrazy]

^lol yeah;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbvP7dT3Dx0 (india)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaoGjuIb7BY (japan)

[KT Kore]

^lol yeah;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbvP7dT3Dx0 (india)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaoGjuIb7BY (japan)

The funny thing about the vid I linked to is that it wasn't a parody. :lol:

[ThePhillyFlash]

Just heard about Jackson's death on the radio. Wow! What a shocker! Not to mention solid proof of the theory that celebrity deaths always happens in threes: Ed McMahon on Monday, Farrah Fawcett and Jackson yesterday. Again, wow!

[Supermutant]

I was watching this on Fox News while this was happening. I still can't believe that he is dead. I'm having hard time not crying. I just pull my history cd which sadly the only jackson cd I have. I had the rest on tape or on record. I have no idea where tapes are probably in storage and the same with records. That includes the original thriller album. No matter what you want to say about his strange life in recent years the music he left behind will always be remembered as some the best of all time. Thriller will still be one of the best sellers for a long time.

[Gray]

I SMELL A CONSPIRACY. He just auctioned off millions of dollars worth of his posessions not all that long ago, and now he's faked his death to escape from the bankruptcy and scandals! *nod*nod*

[Nakey]

WOW, youngster, do some researech.

i did. and your next line pretty much sums up my research..

Man, he revolutionised music...

so he entertained us. not truly revolutionary in my book.

Solve cancer? increase lifespan? fix global warming? no. nothing. Revolutionary entertainer: completely, utter and without exception. However, that in itself isn't revolutionary in the grand scheme of things. we don't care for the passing of people who's achievements improve our standard of living. But we care greatly for the death of a multi-platinum record seller who's had a troubled life.

it's sad he had a trouble life. it's sad we've lost an entertainer of his caliber. It doesn't make his death any more saddening, nor important, to me than the death of Jane McGrath or our last Digger.

He did alot for bringing people toghter also, like blacks and whites.

So for all your ranting, you have one line for his worldwide non-entertainment achievements.

Really, if this was his hallmark, this would far and away overshadow the controversies in his life. but it hasn't. No more than any other entertainer.

EDIT:
If this sounds callous then so be it. I loved his music too. but i'm not going to elevate him on a pedestal just for his (admittedly amazing) creative exploits, nor because his fanbase is in levels of mourning rivaled only by that of Princess Diana. Again, respect where respect is due.

[Samurai Drifter]

Whoa. Michael Jackson dead?

What. The. ****.

[Nakey]

Whoa. Michael Jackson dead?

What. The. ****.

yeah, that's my response this morning too.

[sumwhatkrazy]

Fair Enough Nakey.
He did touch alot of peoples hearts though. Iam sure that he inspired people, he did alot for charity and under privilaged kids, he promoted world peace alot, ok so that aint gonna stop wars but iam sure it may have effected thinking and actions of some in a positive way.
I see yourpoints, he didnt cure a major disease or invent anything but he entertained millions and helped alot of people.
He just had an aura about him i guess, i mean who else has grown adults(mostly the females) balling their eyes out at his shows, at every move he makes? teh Beatles had teh girls out of control screaming, michael had them all crying at the sound of his voice, at the sight of him, despite what he did to his appearance.
Anyhow, i dont even own any of his albums, i do however have alot of respect and thats all i was getting at, i dont worship him, i was just saying R.I.P and expressing how talented he was and how much he influenced and achived. I wasnt trying to say that he revolutionised the whole world and improved our living and life sapn and invented a space ship, i was just expressing that he did indeed revolutionise music, which i though was all that we were taking about, i may have missed something reading the first 5-6 pages impatiantly.

[Purple Madness]

Thats heavy shizzle, my friends.
I was round my friend's house for a little drinking sesh & I went on the net around 1am..Shocked the **** out of me, TBH.
Michael Jackson is now with Marilyn Monroe and Elvis Presley....though I'm not really a fan... I guess that it's goodbye to a music icon for all of us.

oh,in a related note...some people are already making some horrible puns at Jacko's expensive. It's awful.

[Old Ape Face]

I SMELL A CONSPIRACY. He just auctioned off millions of dollars worth of his posessions not all that long ago, and now he's faked his death to escape from the bankruptcy and scandals! *nod*nod*

Fake death?

Seems like he went to the hospital and didn't make it out.

Or is this what the media wants us to believe? Just like how he went to court about pedophilia and came out innocent?

The life of a celebrity must be harsh. <_<

[Spadesy]

Everybody really, really cares about this guy it seems...I'm not even sure if Kurt Cobain got this much TV coverage when he kicked the bucket, and he shot himself in the face with a shotgun while hopped up on a more-than-lethal dose of heroin. MJ just croaked.

This morning, I checked the news and bam, there it was..."Michael Jackson died."

At work, "hey dude, Michael Jackson died."

When I got back to the barracks, turn on the TV..."Michael Jackson is dead, oh noes!"

And now a thread about Michael Jackson being dead.

I liked the old, Thriller Michael Jackson...before the whole I-turned-into-a-white-suspected-pedophile thing.

[Old Ape Face]

Everybody really, really cares about this guy it seems...I'm not even sure if Kurt Cobain got this much TV coverage when he kicked the bucket, and he shot himself in the face with a shotgun while hopped up on a more-than-lethal dose of heroin. MJ just croaked.

This morning, I checked the news and bam, there it was..."Michael Jackson died."

At work, "hey dude, Michael Jackson died."

When I got back to the barracks, turn on the TV..."Michael Jackson is dead, oh noes!"

And now a thread about Michael Jackson being dead.

I liked the old, Thriller Michael Jackson...before the whole I-turned-into-a-white-suspected-pedophile thing.

Hey Spadesy, guess what? Michael Jackson, yeah he's dead man. Real shocker...

[Spadesy]

ARRRRRRRRRRGH!





Yukimura,

Come here.

http://www.psxa2z.com/gpgs/ss/BT0546/BT0546F.jpg

Just to prove my point,

From Yahoo Messenger

Sayaka: dusty michael jackson past away
Dusty: I know Sayaka, I've been hearing it all day...

ARRRRRRRRRRGH!

[tenshi_a]

Office banter:

"Let's see if there's anything in the news"
"Michael Jackson is still dead"
"is he not back yet?"
"The way his fans are going on, I reckon he'll be back in a few days. I give him until Sunday"
"Oh good. I always wanted another holiday this time of year. Another Easter would be lovely"
"Of course, if we celebrate this like Easter we'll have to use white chocolate eggs..."

[Tidusauron12]

Amidst all of this about MJ's death... I'll just say RIP and move on with my life.

[sumwhatkrazy]

^yeah, life goes on, everybody dies eventually, was just a shock, like there were sighns, it just dosent seem real and a world without MJ seems not real, i guess cos he's always been in teh media and his name in ppls mouths since i was a kid.
Plus it just makes me feel sad , all the things that happend to him throughout his life, despite some of it being self inflicted.
Its funny though, how ppl that were against him are all on the R.I.P MJ now..ppl are fake as feezuc.

[Old Ape Face]

Yukimura,

Come here.


hehe I think the point has been proven and now we are effectively beating a dead King of Pop here.

[Haruhi]

Revolutionary in what way? yes, his music was good. yes, he's musically entertained us for years on end. but in the great scheme of things, he's done no more than any other entertainer. he's not solved lifes problems, just given us a way to temporary escape them.

Sure, it's not time to lay into him (yet), but i'm not going to sit here and say he's revolutionary and should, without exception, be revered because he's passed away. Why respect the dead when we didn't have respect for him in the living? that's just being pious...

Respect where respect is due. criticism where criticism is due.

If you're going to be looking at everything in the "grand scheme of things" then mourning death period, would be pointless. That's not even mentioning how relative everything would be for each individual. The fact is, a lot of us grew up listening to the guy on our radios. That's why a lot of us are in shock after hearing it. I'm not asking you to respect or even like the guy, but to be making immature jokes about what was a very media-induced frenzy for the latter part of his life right as he died is tasteless and immature, which is pretty much the point to begin with, before you had to chime in with your "oh, he's not all that" argument.

He was revolutionary in music. What ELSE were you thinking I was getting at by calling him "revolutionary?" Was there really a point to even come in with your irrelevant *****ing? Pretty much everything sumwhatkrazy sums it up. Sure, he didn't cure a major disease or improve OUR quality of life (my, that's a selfish outlook), but since when was that the only criteria for saying he changed the way SOMETHING (even music) was looked at? And as for respecting him, what do you think his legacy will be? The king of pop who changed music? Or the alleged child molester? 50 years from now, what do you think he will be remembered for?

[ryushe]

And as for respecting him, what do you think his legacy will be? The king of pop who changed music? Or the alleged child molester? 50 years from now, what do you think he will be remembered for?Well even though it isn't positive, to be fair, that is kinda part of his legacy also.

[waltsoph3]

Wiether you liked the guy or you don't it was his music that truly captivated the world. Lets also not forget his heal the world charities and so much that he gave back to the world before all the controversies around him started. I will morn MJ thats how much of an inspiration he gave to the world in my eyes.

[Old Ape Face]

And as for respecting him, what do you think his legacy will be? The king of pop who changed music? Or the alleged child molester? 50 years from now, what do you think he will be remembered for?

Well considering the king of Rock, died from supposedly drug over dose.

The King of Queens (Freddie Mercury), died from Aids.

I think the King of Pop would be known for other things, I think he'll be remembered for both a pop artist and a pedophile, seeing as that's what half of the people I hear in the mass media see him as still. They don't care how good his music was, they're still relieved that there's one less pedophile in this world.

[Tidusauron12]

Nakey: Get laid. Or blow a fuse. Or both.

Edit: At Haruhi@ Most definitely his musical contributions. Musicians of any import are always remembered for their art, and rarely their personalities/actions/etc... As soon as all of this generation dies off (the one with all the jokes/judgmental ********/etc... There will be nothing left but his music.

[loplop]

Edit: At Haruhi@ Most definitely his musical contributions. Musicians of any import are always remembered for their art, and rarely their personalities/actions/etc... As soon as all of this generation dies off (the one with all the jokes/judgmental ********/etc... There will be nothing left but his music.

I would disagree with that. I really think that the internet (and what replaces it down the road) will play a factor in how people will be remembered as time goes on. There's a lot more access to information, both good and bad, about people now. We will have to wait and see . . . .

[Old Ape Face]

Nakey: Get laid. Or blow a fuse. Or both.

Edit: At Haruhi@ Most definitely his musical contributions. Musicians of any import are always remembered for their art, and rarely their personalities/actions/etc... As soon as all of this generation dies off (the one with all the jokes/judgmental ********/etc... There will be nothing left but his music.

That's true, I supose the ones who really reflect on his personality are the ones who've been around to hear the news first. But everyone knows Beethoven was deaf, or at least most music historians do, most people know Freddie Mercury was bisexual.

These little things about a celebrities moments in life rarely ever become strong relevant points in history, but they're still known to people, and I'm sure there will be times when people will try to hold it back from the next generation, "Don't listen to that guy he was a child molester," People are dumb like that.

Of cource 100 years from now no one will be around to instigate their negative points on the person no matter how much they try to bring the past into the present.

I would disagree with that. I really think that the internet (and what replaces it down the road) will play a factor in how people will remembered as time goes on. There's a lot more access to information, both good and bad, about people now. We will have to wait and see . . . .

Even the internet can go so far, yeah the Internet has the option of geting into articles and archived sources that can trace things back really far, but who's going to research that when the guy's dead 50 years from now? perhaps it's useful for school research, but inevitably people don't care about history enough to reflect on it.

[taily]

Thousand of people who don't hang children out of balconies die everyday. Oh hurray he did good music, shame he's dead, R.I.P ect. but please, this isn't 9/11 all over again or something.

[Haruhi]

Well considering the king of Rock, died from supposedly drug over dose.

The King of Queens (Freddie Mercury), died from Aids.

I think the King of Pop would be known for other things, I think he'll be remembered for both a pop artist and a pedophile, seeing as that's what half of the people I hear in the mass media see him as still. They don't care how good his music was, they're still relieved that there's one less pedophile in this world.



If his alleged pedophilia was as official and as bad as they make it out to be, I sincerely doubt he would be getting this much sympathy from, oh, I don't know, around the world.

And how many people care about Elvis dying as opposed to how much he did for an industry?

[Old Ape Face]

And how many people care about Elvis dying as opposed to how much he did for an industry?

Hmmm how many people still refuse to believe he's dead?

Ok that's probably old and the nerds of that era are old too, so I supose it doesn't matter anymore.

Haha, I can just picture Michael Jackson Impersonators XD, a new idol to look for at Conventions.

[Tidusauron12]

That's true, I supose the ones who really reflect on his personality are the ones who've been around to hear the news first. But everyone knows Beethoven was deaf...

The fact that Beethoven went deaf is one of the most important developments of his musical career. What most people don't know about Beethoven is the more personal side of his life; what type of person he was... crimes he may have committed, or even the reputation he garnered by the public of his day: All of that was lost to time (well, it's in history books, but no one really cares), what remains for the most part is his music.

I can't say it's right to compare Jackson to Beethoven though, seeing this is a completely different day and age. There's no telling how MJ will be remembered in the future. I don't know if the negative connotation will dominate over the musical connotation. I do know however, that he will forever have that "King of Pop" title.

[Rain]

Thousand of people who don't hang children out of balconies die everyday. Oh hurray he did good music, shame he's dead, R.I.P ect. but please, this isn't 9/11 all over again or something.

Stop trying to be such an *******, you're like, what, TWELVE.

Fail.

R.I.P. Michael Jackson a.k.a. The King of Pop! You'll forever be in our hearts and remembered as the moonwalking legend.

[Purple Madness]

Thousand of people who don't hang children out of balconies die everyday. Oh hurray he did good music, shame he's dead, R.I.P ect. but please, this isn't 9/11 all over again or something.


I'm missing something here...
WHEN was this 9/11 all over again?
I've yet to see someone compare it to 9/11.

[Old Ape Face]

I'm missing something here...
WHEN was this 9/11 all over again?
I've yet to see someone compare it to 9/11.

I'm assuming he is inferring that this has as much global impact and attention as 911.

Which if Taily was hiding under a rock since before 911, is a ridiculous thought to comprehend.

911 wasn't a celebrity, 911 was like that of Pearl Harbor an enemy attack one which involved the global economy.

Michael Jackson was just a super star plain and simple and people make it a big deal becuase he was the King of Pop, not a world economic disaster.

And no, people are not reacting like this is a world economic disaster, people are acting like they've lost a part of their childhood, nothing more nothing less.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

I can't say I really agreed with the man and the things he did in the last few decades, but the man was an incredible dancer, a good stage personality, not to mention that he written and composed several of his hits, most pop stars can't say the same thing. I also appreciate the fact he seemed to consider music to be a visual medium as well as an auditory medium. Let's face it, there's so many generic "playing guitars in an abandoned factory" music videos these days, it makes me really appreciate Thriller and Smooth Criminal.

The true tragedy is that he never got himself back together. There was no comeback, he wasn't able to control himself and control his life and carrer, which I think is a sad thing.

However, that is not what people will remember him for. People will remember him for his albums and his success, and I think the future generaitons will remember him as a deeply troubled artist struggling to get his life together, rather than a weird looking freak who spent too much time with children.

[Old Ape Face]

The true tragedy is that he never got himself back together. There was no comeback, he wasn't able to control himself and control his life and carrer, which I think is a sad thing.

I did hear he was trying to make a comeback, but from what I see and I state this pretty bluntly and I apologize for saying this

He has been useless as of the past 10 years, he hasn't made anything since the 90s. While so many other bands and musical artists who've been around his time have made more music in the past 10 years.

Even if he were to pull things back together, which might have worked given his fan base. He would still be thought of as a pedophile and a weirdo to a mass population.

[taily]

Stop trying to be such an *******, you're like, what, TWELVE.

Fail.


1. :lol:

2. I'm not "trying" to be any **** and don't pretend otherwise, rather than sulk in a bitter rage at me dissing the king of pop, how about you actually come up with some reason why all this noise about Jacksons death is called for ect.

I'm missing something here...
WHEN was this 9/11 all over again?
I've yet to see someone compare it to 9/11.

They've literally taken over the entire news with Michael Michael Michael Michael and nothing more, I haven't heard a non-Jackson song on the radio all day. So yes 9/11 was bigger but dear god one person is dead.

Unless I remember wrongly, the thread about Jackson turning Muslim was a vulture like fest of nothing but insults for Michael, but boom now he's dead all his sins have been washed away and he was nothing but a saint.

Mentally disturbed or not, the fact he dangled his own child from a 3rd story balcony is just plain wrong.The old, cool Michael Jackson witht he funky Hair-do didn't die, the face-like-a-mask freaky pedophile millionare-living-like-a-billonare Michael Jackson died.

The whole thing is being blown way out of proportian.

P.s. Rain if you're planning to refute by pointing out spelling and gramatical errors don't bother.

EDIT: @Yuki: Yeah he was doing some come-back tour, he had already done his first gig when he died I think.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Unless I remember wrongly, the thread about Jackson turning Muslim was a vulture like fest of nothing but insults for Michael, but boom now he's dead all his sins have been washed away and he was nothing but a saint.

Yeah, because most people try not to beat a dead horse unless it's Hitler.

[superplough]

Funny how everyone I know IRL is making innapropriate jokes about him, and they're hilarious and accurate

[ryushe]

Man, some people act like Micheal molested them.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Man, some people act like Micheal molested them.

I felt violated after he ruined the Cowboys route of the Suckalo Bills for me.

[ComicalParamore]

im not gunna lie... i was at work when i heard the news....... my immediate reaction was laughter and then i realized that im probably gunna go to hell for that...

[goddessofanime]

Thousand of people who don't hang children out of balconies die everyday. Oh hurray he did good music, shame he's dead, R.I.P ect. but please, this isn't 9/11 all over again or something.

It's not about all those allegations about pedophila, the fact that he hung his baby off the balcony or the overall fact that he was the wackiest fruit loop that ever lived and that he basically looked like an old white woman.

The fact is, the man did revolutionized pop music. And as Haruhi said, a good many of us did grow up listening to his music. A lot of popstars today, especially the younger generation, owe it to MJ. He was around for a good 45 years, basically since he was five years old.

So love him or hate him, he was still a legend.

[KT Kore]

As for how people will remember him, I don't think MJ will ever catch a break even after he's dead. He was too odd for people to understand so they're going to continue to drag him through the mud, make jokes, and act like he wasn't a human. Just look at this thread. All the haters have to do is wait a while. All the posthumous respect he's being given by most people will subside with time, and then the haters can have at it as usual.

[goddessofanime]

It's so sad that a lot of the younger people like taily's and Deadly Moon Goddess' age will probaly remember him more for his plastic surgery and for the pedophile charges than for his music

[Mosinmatt]

It's so sad that a lot of the younger people like taily's and Deadly Moon Goddess' age will probaly remember him more for his plastic surgery and for the pedophile charges than for his music

Yea. I was a huge fan of his when I was young. A lot of kids my age were. We would sing his songs in the car when our moms were driving us around and all that.
Granted he did get...really weird later on in life. That will over shadow his past, as there are so many that didn't grow up with him.

[Tidusauron12]

I admit that I lol'd when I heard he was dead. But I wasn't laughing because he was dead. That's just how I react to the deaths of famous people. I don't even really have that much respect for Michael, and I am also pissed at all of the distress/drama this is causing in the media.

Then again, not really. I ignore most of these things on a daily basis. It'll be passed in a couple of weeks. RIP Michael.

MJ: Born a black man, died a white woman.

[Haruhi]

I did hear he was trying to make a comeback, but from what I see and I state this pretty bluntly and I apologize for saying this

He has been useless as of the past 10 years, he hasn't made anything since the 90s. While so many other bands and musical artists who've been around his time have made more music in the past 10 years.


None of which have the influence that Jackson did. If any one of those artists died, do you think people would give half a crap as they are with Jackson now? No. So, stop trying to come off as a wannabe hardass and accept that MJ > MOST artists. Seriously, how old are you?

[animeotaku99]

I remember watching his videos all the time. and it was before I understood race so I didn't even notice when he was suddenly white in one of his videos, this was before all his major surgery.
Smooth criminal is the best!

[Shiroiyuki]

You know, I love that until he died -- the only thing people would say when Michael Jackson was brought up in a conversation was 'ewww'.

Now they practically are pouring into the streets with 'grief'. I won't be surprised if they televise his funeral.

<_<

[Bernard_Monsha]

None of which have the influence that Jackson did. If any one of those artists died, do you think people would give half a crap as they are with Jackson now? No. So, stop trying to come off as a wannabe hardass and accept that MJ > MOST artists. Seriously, how old are you?

On the other hand, if he had not been in the media for the last decade and half for being a weirdo and bad touching children do you think people would have cared? No, he would have gotten the same reaction that Ed McMahon has gotten. It just proves the point that any publicity is good publicity.

[Tidusauron12]

On the other hand, if he had not been in the media for the last decade and half for being a weirdo and bad touching children do you think people would have cared? No, he would have gotten the same reaction that Ed McMahon has gotten. It just proves the point that any publicity is good publicity.


I agree with this. MJ had a full life, that's for sure.

[Arnold]

On the other hand, if he had not been in the media for the last decade and half for being a weirdo and bad touching children do you think people would have cared? No, he would have gotten the same reaction that Ed McMahon has gotten. It just proves the point that any publicity is good publicity.

Ed McMahon was never the legend that MJ was at his peak. And of course MJ wasn't in his 80s...

Thriller is the biggest selling album of all time.

[goddessofanime]

On the other hand, if he had not been in the media for the last decade and half for being a weirdo and bad touching children do you think people would have cared? No, he would have gotten the same reaction that Ed McMahon has gotten. It just proves the point that any publicity is good publicity.

Are you kidding? During those trials, you would've thought it was the second coming of Jesus with the way those fans were.

Even if he wasn't more known in the last few years for his weirdo act, he still would be known for having the number one selling album of all time.

[Midoriko87]

Ed McMahon was never the legend that MJ was at his peak. And of course MJ wasn't in his 80s...

Thriller is the biggest selling album of all time.

I agree. Also, it was less than a month away from this insane tour. I honestly believe he would be receiving the same amount of attention.

Although, the thought of what may happen to his children is what's really on my mind. Forced to live with strangers, possibly separated (Prince Michael and Paris don't have the same mother as Blanket).

[Trefellin]

It's scary to think of what a person could do with their insanely devoted fans if they had the will. Micheal Jackson probably could've walked outside his house, said "my loyal followers, I command you to kill Wolf Blitzer" and some of them would try.

[KT Kore]

I'm sure people would have cared just as much. The guy was about as, if not more famous than Elvis. Look at all the rabid fans he had even before all the accusations began.

[goddessofanime]

I agree. Also, it was less than a month away from this insane tour. I honestly believe he would be receiving the same amount of attention.

Although, the thought of what may happen to his children is what's really on my mind. Forced to live with strangers, possibly separated (Prince Michael and Paris don't have the same mother as Blanket).

I saw that on the news. Shame really...

[sumwhatkrazy]

Well i think the whole thing has sunk in now, was just a shcok an hearing/reading some peoples reactions and some of his songs listend to actually did make me go through some greif and as i've said iam not exactly a die hard fan so i can only imagine some peoples reactions.
I was watching a music video special on him last night and it remeinded me of why i like him, like some of the songs and videos are so friccin cool, yet at the same time it reminded me why iam not a die hard fan, i didnt like alot of teh songs at all, and some of the videos were rather lame, BUT, i aint really inta pop music , like the middle part of his career, but anyways, he was a super talent and despite not all his music being to my taste i'll remember him as a musical genuis. I cant denie that i'll remember him as being srange and somewhat insaine but i truely belive that he was a kind hearted , innocent person that was taken advantage of by the people around him.
I think he was born with a gift but was incredably unlucky. the mega rare skin conditions, no child hood, getting burnt shooting the pepsi commercial, greedy doctors/sergeons, greedy evil parents(of some of the kids he helped), the media,etc.
Dude just lived in a fantasy world, made him strange but didnt make him a bad person. He was just another example of kindness being a weakness.

I was a fan for a little while when i was a kid, my dad showin me music vids, and tehn a phaze in school i had a mate that was real into him, but i grew up on hip hop, and had a rock an techno phaze so MJ wasnt really that cool and i never bought any of his albums but for years now i watch an listen to his songs and whilst i aint big on some sounds of pop music the songs of his that i do really feel, i really do feel and i will continue to listen too, and remember him for that.
Now i just hope Snoop dogg or Dr.Dre dont die. Then theres NO ONE left.(waits to get flamed) ;p

[Haruhi]

On the other hand, if he had not been in the media for the last decade and half for being a weirdo and bad touching children do you think people would have cared? No, he would have gotten the same reaction that Ed McMahon has gotten. It just proves the point that any publicity is good publicity.

Actually, I do believe people would have cared. Having the number one selling album of all time and being titled, king of pop has to amount to something above the typical music celebrity.

[tofuman]

I'll never forget the first time I saw Captain Eo at Disneyland when I was a kid. That was my first real taste of MJ. And for the next several years I would think he was a women.

[Old Ape Face]

None of which have the influence that Jackson did. If any one of those artists died, do you think people would give half a crap as they are with Jackson now? No. So, stop trying to come off as a wannabe hardass and accept that MJ > MOST artists. Seriously, how old are you?

Really? Michael Jackson was more influential than Led Zeppelin, more influential than the man who influenced many forms of rock and heavy metal that you hear today? (Being Queen) more than the Grateful Dead, brighter than Pink Floyd? These bands are not even in the same style of music.

Michael Jackson was best at pop music, his influence was to the dancers and the pop music lovers, he had his own style of music for the world, and yet as the musicians who've lived during his time, the ones who are still alive, are still writing music. Probably not as shiny and loud as Michael in the mainstream of things, but they are still full filling their careers.

Michael might have improved and made the Moon Walk legendary, he might have put the pop into pop music, but really there are other influential people who've been around during his time period who are still makeing music as their pride profession.

I'm not saying Michael Jackson wasn't influential, he was a star to the world for a long time, all I'm saying is he hasn't made much for music in the past 10 years. Some people would say he already died in the 90s.

[CrossboneGundam]

At least he can't get any uglier now.

[Old Ape Face]

I'm sure people would have cared just as much. The guy was about as, if not more famous than Elvis. Look at all the rabid fans he had even before all the accusations began.

This is the kind of attitude I would expect to hear coming from the public about Michael Jackson. Given, his music was the most lively and most memorable than Elvis could probably have hoped to achieve. MJ is the new Elvis of our time.

[Dalmain]

R.I.P Micheal. You can't deny the guy had a unique talent and was cherished world wide.

[Haruhi]

Really? Michael Jackson was more influential than Led Zeppelin, more influential than the man who influenced many forms of rock and heavy metal that you hear today? (Being Queen) more than the Grateful Dead, brighter than Pink Floyd? These bands are not even in the same style of music.

Michael Jackson was best at pop music, his influence was to the dancers and the pop music lovers, he had his own style of music for the world, and yet as the musicians who've lived during his time, the ones who are still alive, are still writing music. Probably not as shiny and loud as Michael in the mainstream of things, but they are still full filling their careers.

Michael might have improved and made the Moon Walk legendary, he might have put the pop into pop music, but really there are other influential people who've been around during his time period who are still makeing music as their pride profession.

I'm not saying Michael Jackson wasn't influential, he was a star to the world for a long time, all I'm saying is he hasn't made much for music in the past 10 years. Some people would say he already died in the 90s.

Long post short, no. I don't believe any of those artist can touch Jackson, save possibly Zeppelin. You can continue to argue how other great artists from that time period are still writing, but I doubt you can argue against how huge he was, not just from a musical standpoint, but from the sheer numbers that around him.

[Jon]

RIP Jackson, you wrote one of my most favorite songs ever, called "Beat it." It's a shame you had to die so young...

[Jia]

I kind of think the fuss about him is a tad hypocritical.

Didn't some people here say a few things unsavory about him in one of the other threads not only a couple months ago? Besides that I think the death of someone is sad but when people were mocking the guy....ehh...I find this a little too little too late with the niceness and besides other people die too they don't get half of the attention this singer did.

[Pessimist]

What happens to his debt?

The usual stuff. If the debt belongs to Jackson alone, whatever he once owned will now be sold to pay the debt. If his possessions and monetary means are not enough to cover the debt, then it simply means his debt will not be paid back in full. If some possessions remain after covering the debt, his kids might inherit that.

If his alleged pedophilia was as official and as bad as they make it out to be, I sincerely doubt he would be getting this much sympathy from, oh, I don't know, around the world.

You haven't seen the public opinion swing like a pendelum before? Now, I have to ask how old are you or just how naive.

Long post short, no. I don't believe any of those artist can touch Jackson, save possibly Zeppelin. You can continue to argue how other great artists from that time period are still writing, but I doubt you can argue against how huge he was, not just from a musical standpoint, but from the sheer numbers that around him.


You are free to share your beliefs. However, does your beliefs grant you an authority high enough to squelch opinions of others regarding what is good music or what has influenced music?

I assure you, I don't think anyone in this topic has argued against how huge he was at one point of time. In addition I'd like to mention how some could even argue that he was too huge to be a musician, thus calling him an entertainer would be more appropriate.

The best selling album in United States of America is "Their Greatest Hits (1971–1975)" by the Eagles. "Thriller" is on the second place. Yeah, even though Thriller sold quite a bit more around the globe.

However, comparing music and numbers is not a feat without problems. The fact is how both global spending power and population have increased enourmously during the past century in addition to the genre spectrum becoming more bloated.








As they say; Le Roi est mort, vive le Roi! So, who is our new King of Pop?

[taily]

You know, I love that until he died -- the only thing people would say when Michael Jackson was brought up in a conversation was 'ewww'.

Now they practically are pouring into the streets with 'grief'. I won't be surprised if they televise his funeral.

<_<

Thank you.

Long post short, no. I don't believe any of those artist can touch Jackson, save possibly Zeppelin. You can continue to argue how other great artists from that time period are still writing, but I doubt you can argue against how huge he was, not just from a musical standpoint, but from the sheer numbers that around him.

You're saying Queen isn't as huge as MJ? Maybe not over there but I'm pretty sure he is here.

[Illusions-chan]

He has been useless as of the past 10 years, he hasn't made anything since the 90s. While so many other bands and musical artists who've been around his time have made more music in the past 10 years.

Actually, that is wrong. He released Invincible in early September 2001. If I remember correctly, it released at the #1 spot and he was in Times Square to promote it. Invincible, while not liked by some critics, had some of his most mature pieces on it, like "Butterflies", "Invincible" and "Heaven Can Wait". And I'm sure you all recognize the big number "You Rock My World" that is on it.

[Old Ape Face]

Actually, that is wrong. He released Invincible in early September 2001. If I remember correctly, it released at the #1 spot and he was in Times Square to promote it. Invincible, while not liked by some critics, had some of his most mature pieces on it, like "Butterflies", "Invincible" and "Heaven Can Wait". And I'm sure you all recognize the big number "You Rock My World" that is on it.

True I do remember one album he released, but it's been so long since he made a new one after that. more than I can remember at least.

[Old Ape Face]

You're saying Queen isn't as huge as MJ? Maybe not over there but I'm pretty sure he is here.

So you're saying that Freddie Mercury Tribute they had in 1992 was total bogus? Elton John, Roger Daltrey (of The Who), Tony Iommi (of Black Sabbath), David Bowie, Mick Ronson (of Spiders from Mars), James Hetfield (of Metallica), George Michael, Seal, Paul Young, Annie Lennox, Lisa Stansfield, Robert Plant (Led Zeppelin), Joe Elliott and Phil Collen (of Def Leppard), Axl Rose and Slash (of Guns N' Roses), Liza Minnelli, and others, all singing songs written and composed by this guy some even on the stage at the same time.

The Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert for AIDS Awareness was an open-air concert held on Easter Monday, 20 April 1992 at London's Wembley Stadium, televised live worldwide to an estimated audience of 1.2 billion viewers. The concert was a tribute to the life of the late Queen frontman, Freddie Mercury, with all proceeds going to AIDS research. The show marked bassist John Deacon's final concert with Queen (save one live appearance with Brian May, Roger Taylor and Elton John in 1997). The profits from the concert were used to launch The Mercury Phoenix Trust AIDS charity organisation.

Aired to 1.5 billion people world wide.

if MJ spawns this kind of tribute concert I'll watch XD

[Tidusauron12]

What a mess...

[Shiroiyuki]

Wouldn't it just suck if all this was a hoax designed to make his rabid fans appreciate him more? Jump out at the designated concert time and say 'SURPRISE! NOW, WHERE'S MY LITTLE BLANKET??'....

I'd laugh so hard if this was just another wacky publicity stunt.

[Trefellin]

^ Damn, now I have to see the body just too be sure he's dead. <_<

[fujyoshi]

the only guy that gave my mom happiness -_= ok yea my whole family is fans and I'm just the random indifferent person whos all like ok and yea but my mom actually had a dream that this would happen o_O

[ryushe]

You're saying Queen isn't as huge as MJ? Maybe not over there but I'm pretty sure he is here.Who's Queen?

[taily]

I didn't mean to right "he" BTW. It's cause Yukimura Sanada was doing it!

Also Ryushe you are being sarcastic right.

[superplough]

'SURPRISE! NOW, WHERE'S MY LITTLE BLANKET??'

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/South-Park-33.jpg

[goddessofanime]

Well, so much for the adoration and grief.

Now they're going on about his debt and who will take care of his kids and the fact that he pretty much was high as a kite most of the time in the last few years

[xia]

In a sign of tribute, I put a MJ ringtone on my phone.

I have also been watching his video's all weekend.

[goddessofanime]

I've been listening to MJ's music and watching whatever VH1/MTV keeps putting together.

[KatayokuのTenshi]

Alleged... Alleged child molester. :unsure:

Acquitted.

I remember thinking, when I saw the coverage of the trail on the news, that a lot of the prosecution's evidence seemed oddly... made up.

http://screencrave.com/2009-06-25/report-jeff-goldblum-has-died/

Oh, FFS! Get it together God!

[phew]

That was a close one!

so he entertained us. not truly revolutionary in my book.

He was a revolutionary musician, he revolutionised music. What did you expect? Revolutionary writers don't revolutionise pasta. Revolutionary painters don't map the human genome. Revolutionary Musicians make music. Revolutionary Girls Revolutionise the world

The King of Queens (Freddie Mercury), died from Aids.

That's not quite right... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_of_Queens)

And how many people care about Elvis dying as opposed to how much he did for an industry?

Elvis isn't dead, he just went home.

The usual stuff. If the debt belongs to Jackson alone, whatever he once owned will now be sold to pay the debt. If his possessions and monetary means are not enough to cover the debt, then it simply means his debt will not be paid back in full. If some possessions remain after covering the debt, his kids might inherit that.

Secured Creditors will be paid off first, anyone that he granted a mortgage to for example, so someone who has the first legal mortgage to any property he owned will be paid in full, then the second and so on. I can't remember how you order unsecured creditors.

As they say; Le Roi est mort, vive le Roi! So, who is our new King of Pop?

Who says that? They usually say that in English don't they? "The King is dead. Long live the king!" and only because they'd know who the next king is...

So you're saying that Freddie Mercury Tribute they had in 1992 was total bogus?

That's not even close to what he said.

Who's Queen?

Educate yourself boy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iikKzQwgBJc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpy4xNAnWzM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58CJih1iYC0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hMrY8jysdg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtrEN-YKLBM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC4ZOxpu2rs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNBWf54RvsI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VXc2eZtPN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QOoH-Okd0U

(Mostly a random selection, you could throw a dart at their discography and hit gold every time. If nothing else watch the last three)

Did anyone else hear? It's been in all the papers today, his death appears to have been caused by a fatal overdose of morphine believed to have been administered by his personal doctor. The police are searching for him but he's nowhere to be found. ...so murder then?

[Old Ape Face]

That's not even close to what he said.


oh I know, but just to get Taily's point across.

[User was castrated for this post]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iikKzQwgBJc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpy4xNAnWzM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58CJih1iYC0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hMrY8jysdg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtrEN-YKLBM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC4ZOxpu2rs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNBWf54RvsI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VXc2eZtPN0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QOoH-Okd0U


No one could do those better than Freddie Mercury

except Hetfields version of Stone Cold Crazy was made for him lol

[Shiroiyuki]

http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/South-Park-33.jpg

"I love you, Mr. Jefferson."

"I love you, too, Cartman."

"Yeah?"

"Yeah."

"Yeah?"

"Yeah."

"Yeah?"

"AAAAHHHHGGGGHHHHH"

[Old Ape Face]

Who says that? They usually say that in English don't they? "The King is dead. Long live the king!" and only because they'd know who the next king is...

So who's the king of Metal? James Hetfield, Kirk Hammet, Dave Mustaine, Marty Friedman, Dimebag or Ozzy and the guys from Black Sabath?

I guess it's too early to ask that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QOoH-Okd0U

Is godly BTW

[goddessofanime]

We're not talking about metal though.

And besides, I'd say Ozzy was king.

[KT Kore]

Hey guys I think Yukimura likes rock music. Who knew? :P

[Old Ape Face]

We're not talking about metal though.

And besides, I'd say Ozzy was king.

No but we are talking about kings of forms of Music, Elvis was the King of Rock, Queen was just queen I can't put that in a title.

MJ was the king of pop.

And for the many forms of music these people have inspired today especially Queen and Michael Jackson even the Beatles and Hendrix and every other artist in music who as pushed a revolution in music, the ones who are still alive even.

It's honorable to remember these people with the music they've inspired, and the royalty they've produced in their lives.

Hey guys I think Yukimura likes rock music. Who knew? :P

I do, can't be more obvious can I? I like all forms of music.

Michael Jackson was cool too.

[Trefellin]

I have to say that I'm getting really sick of all the coverage this is getting. It's all over the news and you can't grab your crotch without elbowing at least one person going on about it. As of this moment, my panties are officially in a bunch.

It won't be long before I drop some distasteful jokes.

[Shiroiyuki]

I do, can't be more obvious can I? I like all forms of music.

Then start your very own thread about it and stop hijacking/derailing this one.

MJ or BUST, Yukimura. I'll shut you down if the off-topic ranting continues. (and that goes double for anyone stirring up trouble by baiting him)

[Old Ape Face]

I have to say that I'm getting really sick of all the coverage this is getting. It's all over the news and you can't grab your crotch without elbowing at least one person going on about it. As of this moment, my panties are officially in a bunch.

It won't be long before I drop some distasteful jokes.

which is only natural, the public is as crazy raving about his death as his fans where crazy raving him when he was alive, same for the news coverage of his weirdest moments.

That's who he was really.

I'm sure it will stop eventually, until the tribute concert.



Then start your very own thread about it and stop hijacking/derailing this one.

MJ or BUST, Yukimura. I'll shut you down if the off-topic ranting continues. (and that goes double for anyone stirring up trouble by baiting him)

I understand this is Michael Jackson's thread, and I'll move out becuase it's only right to leave him alone for now, while everyone still morns his death.

For the King of Pop his life goes on through his music, and should keep on living. RIP

[Jatz]

I recently saw that he had the rights to something like $500,000,000 worth of Sony music including some Beatles stuff he was being a jerk about. They also say that they might open up Neverland like Graceland. I wonder if they can get the chimp poo smell out?

[goddessofanime]

Here's food for thought:


While Farrah, Ed, Michael Jackson and that Oxiclean guy all passed, Abe Vigoda is still alive.

[ryushe]

Also Ryushe you are being sarcastic right.Kind of, but to insist that their as iconic as Micheal, that's amusing to say the least.


I for one can't wait to see the tribute BET has in store for the late and great king of pop on the awards tonight.

[Trefellin]

While Farrah, Ed, Michael Jackson and that Oxiclean guy all passed, Abe Vigoda is still alive.

Christoper Lee too, Will that man live forever?

[goddessofanime]

Christoper Lee too, Will that man live forever?

He and old Abe must be about 500 years old.

[JoeStrummer]

They've got MJ on heavy rotation in the club I work in, people love the dude. Especially my boss, but he can out dance god, so that's probably why

[Jatz]

He and old Abe must be about 500 years old.
I'm pretty sure his last name use to be Lincoln.
They've got MJ on heavy rotation in the club I work in, people love the dude. Especially my boss, but he can out dance god, so that's probably why

Take a video?

[goddessofanime]

:facepalm:


So now, MJ fans are contemplating suicide...

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65467

[Haro!]

I for one can't wait to see the tribute BET has in store for the late and great king of pop on the awards tonight.

ryushe, please.

I'm definitely picking up the Time magazine tomorrow becaue my niece really wants it.

[ryushe]

ryushe, please.*sigh* I know. What can I say, I'm a sucker for MJ.

and yes, it was disappointing.

[KT Kore]

:facepalm:


So now, MJ fans are contemplating suicide...

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65467

:lol: Wow that's messed up. MJ always had really messed up fans. I'm a big fan of his music but I'm a fan of the music and that's really all I care about. So I always laugh when I see people passing out and crying at his concerts and whatnot. What kind of lives do these people lead?

[Jatz]

Jackson was/is pretty big, do you think he'll surpass Elvis as the highest earning dead celebrity?

[fujyoshi]

:lol: Wow that's messed up. MJ always had really messed up fans. I'm a big fan of his music but I'm a fan of the music and that's really all I care about. So I always laugh when I see people passing out and crying at his concerts and whatnot. What kind of lives do these people lead?

actually I'm not even a fan and I'm just as indifferent so seeing all these people crying at concerts is REALLY out there for me.

[sumwhatkrazy]

I know ppl are over this but heres a nice MJ tribute song that was released on the weekend. Its The Game and puff daddy and i think boyz 2 men. nice track;
http://limelinx.com/files/6ed9b3d724970c238f24167b4eb55eae

[Caster13]

Jackson was/is pretty big, do you think he'll surpass Elvis as the highest earning dead celebrity?

...........NO.

You're comparing MJ to Elvis? You're kidding, right? Right?

[ryushe]

Jackson was/is pretty big, do you think he'll surpass Elvis as the highest earning dead celebrity?I personally think so, but then again, I'm to young to even know anything about Elvis.

[sumwhatkrazy]

...........NO.

You're comparing MJ to Elvis? You're kidding, right? Right?


Um, yes, Michael Jackson, John Lenon(sp?) and Elvis, they will all most definately be rememberd all in the same catergory.
No doubt. All of them were in a league of their own and there hasnt been anyone like them and most probably never will be.
The only thing that Elvis has over MJ is the movies that he did, that he was around before MJ and the fact that he didnt have his appearance and image horribly destroyed/desfigured.
Admittedly i havent heard much Elvis's music myself, nor know as much about him as i do MJ but MJ will be always rememberd just like Elvis and is probaly just as popular if not more so thas Elvis, as far as his music still been played on various radio stations and venues.
I dont think theres as many MJ impersonators as Elvis but there are a good few lol.
The three that i mentioned are the three main musicians that had global impact and made the fans fanatical and caused the woman to scream and cry.
Next in line? hmmm, Tupac?, Kurt cobain? , Jimmy Hendrix? ^O^

I found this intresting also, but i guess all the specials on t.v across the globe have gone over this; http://anomalies-unlimited.com/Jackson.html
lol at "the Japanese anime cartoon guy period" well i guess he had the pointy nose..

[Jatz]

...........NO.

You're comparing MJ to Elvis? You're kidding, right? Right?

I'm saying they're both really popular even after death and if this trend continues might his estate earn more than Elvis'?

[Arnold]

...........NO.

You're comparing MJ to Elvis? You're kidding, right? Right?

It's a fair comparison. MJ wasn't exactly a flash in the pan. The guy was immensely talented and revolutionized pop music.

[sumwhatkrazy]

I just orderd a factory sealed copy of the ultimate collection, i so want it for listening pleasure but also for collection...
Anyways, heres another suitable MJ vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg87JvEFaUg

[ZechsMerquise1]

I recently saw that he had the rights to something like $500,000,000 worth of Sony music including some Beatles stuff he was being a jerk about. They also say that they might open up Neverland like Graceland. I wonder if they can get the chimp poo smell out?

I heard he was bankrupt $500,000,000 on yahoo! wth o.o Which one is it? Oh and apparently that kid who got "molested" admitted he did not get molested by MJ. And he's finally apologizing -_-

[goddessofanime]

and Debbie Rowe said that those two kids aren't really Michael's.

[Jatz]

I heard he was bankrupt $500,000,000 on yahoo! wth o.o Which one is it? Oh and apparently that kid who got "molested" admitted he did not get molested by MJ. And he's finally apologizing -_-

He had those in assets not free money. If I remember right he sold some of what he had before but I guess he wanted to keep what he had left and tour to pay off his debts.

[minmae]

For the past days since I heard Michael Jackson died I've been depressed. I've been mourning. I've been watching CNN, listening to the marathons on the radio, watched the BET awards, and been watching all the channels that had a tribute to him. Even though I wasn't born early enough to live his whole legacy, not fortunate to actually meet him, I truly believe that he IS a legacy. I remember when I was like 4 or 5 the song, "Black or White" and "You Are Not Alone" was hot. Gosh, I'm so full of sorrow.

When I heard about his comeback I was so excited. I was waiting for the talks and hype for it. But no. It didn't happen.

I'm wanting to go to his public funeral but some certain people just have to kill my plan. That is why I'm stressing out and really mad about this.

And all those accusations against him?! I HATE THEM. I hate those ****ing people who wanted money. I hated those people who made up lies and ****. I'm so mad at myself for not defending him when people believe these things that weren't true. And the ****ing media. There's so many I want to **** off that it's not even funny. I'm so mad---I'm so full of frustration and sorrow and I hate that. I'm sad that we did not cherish him enough and now he's gone.

I love you Haruhi for your posts! You go Haruhi! And the others too who defend him!

He was too good for this world. And now R.I.P. King of Pop. Your fans, including me, will miss and love you very much. So much I don't know how it would fit. <3

P.S.

And **** you, haters.

Just found out about this from my friend on the phone. I actually liked him and never believed all the allegations against him.

I am so the same.

[minmae]

To those who's calling him a pedophile or molester...

I flicked you off.

[autsiticanime]

Oh and apparently that kid who got "molested" admitted he did not get molested by MJ. And he's finally apologizing -_-

Which one? The one from 1993, or the recent trial?

Either way, thats a load off my mind.

[tenshi_a]

Debbie Rowe

Every time I see her name I think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwF6jGUii1w

"Seigi no hero! Debbie Rowe man, Debbie Rowe man!"

...yeah that's off topic but this is an anime forum. ^_^

(maybe she ought to really be Debbie Rowe Man Lady...)

[goddessofanime]

For the past days since I heard Michael Jackson died I've been depressed. I've been mourning. I've been watching CNN, listening to the marathons on the radio, watched the BET awards, and been watching all the channels that had a tribute to him. Even though I wasn't born early enough to live his whole legacy, not fortunate to actually meet him, I truly believe that he IS a legacy. I remember when I was like 4 or 5 the song, "Black or White" and "You Are Not Alone" was hot. Gosh, I'm so full of sorrow.

When I heard about his comeback I was so excited. I was waiting for the talks and hype for it. But no. It didn't happen.

I'm wanting to go to his public funeral but some certain people just have to kill my plan. That is why I'm stressing out and really mad about this.

And all those accusations against him?! I HATE THEM. I hate those ****ing people who wanted money. I hated those people who made up lies and ****. I'm so mad at myself for not defending him when people believe these things that weren't true. And the ****ing media. There's so many I want to **** off that it's not even funny. I'm so mad---I'm so full of frustration and sorrow and I hate that. I'm sad that we did not cherish him enough and now he's gone.

I love you Haruhi for your posts! You go Haruhi! And the others too who defend him!

He was too good for this world. And now R.I.P. King of Pop. Your fans, including me, will miss and love you very much. So much I don't know how it would fit. <3

P.S.

And **** you, haters.



I am so the same.


You need a hug *hugs*


I wouldn't go to the public funeral though; they gonna have to break out the riot police for that one.

[sumwhatkrazy]

Watched a special on him last night was good.
And they did indeed compare him to Elvis, very much so.

[Soluzar]

To those who's calling him a pedophile or molester...
Honestly I prefer to just try to believe that the last I ever heard about him was in 1987, that way he's still a legend of pop. The other stuff just isn't relevant to the awesome albums he produced way back when. It would be nice if none of that had ever come into the news. :(

[Bernard_Monsha]

Watched a special on him last night was good.
And they did indeed compare him to Elvis, very much so.


Poor Elvis. Even at his craziest he only had a monkey, chased the dragon, shot guns, and ate fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches.

[Soluzar]

Poor Elvis. Even at his craziest he only had a monkey, chased the dragon, shot guns, and ate fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches.
Whoa. I never knew that.

[tenshi_a]

I don't think there are many drugs that Elvis didn't do. -_-; Illegal, prescription, you name it.

Elvis and Michael Jackson god knows how many other pop / rock music stars and actors have died believing that they're so famous they are immortal.

It doesn't matter who you are. You can't just live solely on the stuff you inhaled or injected, you can't live on pills, you can't live on booze, you can't live on 7000 calorie sandwiches, and expect to live long.

If it's not delusions of immortality, it's a deathwish. That might be closer to the truth...

Oh well, if there weren't people like this, the entertainment industry would certainly have lost something precious.... and highly entertaining.

And there are a few people who have lived like this forever. Or at least, since the 1960s. Those guys are freaks. But, yay for them for keeping the spirit of rock alive, haha. Most of them can't string a sentence together anymore, though... -_-;

[Soluzar]

I don't think there are many drugs that Elvis didn't do. -_-; Illegal, prescription, you name it.
I only knew he was using prescription drugs, I just never heard he was into illegal ones too.

And there are a few people who have lived like this forever. Or at least, since the 1960s. Those guys are freaks. But, yay for them for keeping the spirit of rock alive, haha. Most of them can't string a sentence together anymore, though... -_-;
What's really freaky is that some of them still can! Iggy Pop is 62 years old and can somehow still both speak coherently and look surprisingly healthy, despite a past including significant drug abuse!

Then there's Lou Reed who is 67, still in command of his faculties, and although I never read anywhere that he's been a drug user, you only have to look at some of the songs he's performed to get that impression.

How do they do it?!?! I mean, we all know that Keith Richards does it with voodoo magic and forbidden alchemy, but there's no valid explanation for the two I just mentioned.

[tenshi_a]

Iggy Pop is only 62? Oh heck, I thought he was in his mid seventies at least. :lol: I mean, he looks it, plus he's been around for 40 years or so... :lol: Yeah, I'd be surprised if he suddenly dropped dead. I think he's probably just too amusing the way he is for the world to let him go. Y'know?

And, yeah, Elvis did all sorts of drugs by the accounts I've read / documentaries I've seen, though I couldn't cite you exact references, so I dunno. It could just be staff he's abused who want to tarnish his reputation for all I know. But yeah, what I heard was he'd try anything he could get his hands on, anything that was new.

I think it gets worse the more fame there is. It seems like the frontman of a band is more likely to die of his excesses than the drummer, for example. I guess it could also be that the drummer's death is less likely to get picked up by the press, and there's not so much emotional pressure from keeping rhythm as there is from singing songs... or acting, in the case of actors going off the rails.

It does seem like the ones to die are usually the ones who do the drugs in order to escape their daily suffering, if that makes sense. Or maybe that's just what people attribute it as when they are gone.

[Soluzar]

Iggy Pop is only 62? Oh heck, I thought he was in his mid seventies at least. :lol: I mean, he looks it, plus he's been around for 40 years or so... :lol: Yeah, I'd be surprised if he suddenly dropped dead. I think he's probably just too amusing the way he is for the world to let him go. Y'know?
I do indeed know! :D

Ol' Iggy could still kick my *** from the look of his sixpack...

[Haro!]

To those who's calling him a pedophile or molester...

I flicked you off.

I really liked your previous post, but didn't feel like quoting all that text. I think it is awesome that even today, kids that didn't grow up with his music, still like it. Also. It is interesting that even though last weekend it seemed that every radio station seemed to play nothing but MJ, it didn't feel nearly as repetitive as their typical broadcasts.

I will admit that I used to believe the molestation accusations. However now that I think about it, I doubt it more and more. My main thought is, if I were a parent whose child had been molested I wouldn't just take the money and carry on like nothing happened.

[goddessofanime]

Speaking of drugs...


Keith Richards has done everything in creation and is still kicking....even after getting bonked by a coconut.

[Soluzar]

Keith Richards has done everything in creation and is still kicking....even after getting bonked by a coconut.
Like I said, voodoo magic and forbidden alchemy. It is the only explanation.

[taily]

For the past days since I heard Michael Jackson died I've been depressed. I've been mourning. I've been watching CNN, listening to the marathons on the radio, watched the BET awards, and been watching all the channels that had a tribute to him. Even though I wasn't born early enough to live his whole legacy, not fortunate to actually meet him, I truly believe that he IS a legacy. I remember when I was like 4 or 5 the song, "Black or White" and "You Are Not Alone" was hot. Gosh, I'm so full of sorrow.

When I heard about his comeback I was so excited. I was waiting for the talks and hype for it. But no. It didn't happen.

I'm wanting to go to his public funeral but some certain people just have to kill my plan. That is why I'm stressing out and really mad about this.

And all those accusations against him?! I HATE THEM. I hate those ****ing people who wanted money. I hated those people who made up lies and ****. I'm so mad at myself for not defending him when people believe these things that weren't true. And the ****ing media. There's so many I want to **** off that it's not even funny. I'm so mad---I'm so full of frustration and sorrow and I hate that. I'm sad that we did not cherish him enough and now he's gone.

I love you Haruhi for your posts! You go Haruhi! And the others too who defend him!

He was too good for this world. And now R.I.P. King of Pop. Your fans, including me, will miss and love you very much. So much I don't know how it would fit. <3

P.S.

And **** you, haters.


Which is why everyone should stop writing when they start froathing at the mouth in rage.

[Soluzar]

Which is why everyone should stop writing when they start froathing at the mouth in rage.
I need someone to stand next to me at the computer and tell me that while hitting me with a mallet when it happens. It's rare, but it happens. :'(

[taily]

I couldn't Imagene you getting that angry :lol:

But how about those inflatable mallets you get at fairs and stuff oh they're the best, good times.

[Soluzar]

I couldn't Imagene you getting that angry :lol:
Dude, you haven't seen when I go off at the mods because I think they are being unfair? See the thing is, I'm not wrong. I just go wwaaaaaayyyy too far and it becomes laughable about half way through because if I just say "Hey, that's not cool", it's one thing but if I write 10,000 words on the nature of cruelty, repression and abuse of power it's frankly pathetic. :lol:

[HSaabedra]

Like I said, voodoo magic and forbidden alchemy. It is the only explanation.

Satan cut the Stones a package deal. Once one goes, they all go.

[KT Kore]

Dude, you haven't seen when I go off at the mods because I think they are being unfair? See the thing is, I'm not wrong. I just go wwaaaaaayyyy too far and it becomes laughable about half way through because if I just say "Hey, that's not cool", it's one thing but if I write 10,000 words on the nature of cruelty, repression and abuse of power it's frankly pathetic. :lol:

You'll have to do that again one day so I can see. ^_^

[Rukia123]

All there major news networks are fighting each other for ratings, they have done 24/7 news reports over the same information, about his kids, well, and where will pop star be buried at. It getting to point where I don't want watch news ever more. There no new information and jackson family is still in a mess about his well.

[minmae]

I really liked your previous post...

Thank you Haro!. OMG, we haven't talked in a long time! So, "Hey girl, heyyyy." ;D

The funeral is on Tuesday, at the Staples Center in L.A., free, and I can't make it. And I heard it's already getting full.

D;

[Pessimist]

Which is why everyone should stop writing when they start froathing at the mouth in rage.

More realistically, people should stop presuming people are frothing in rage.

[ThePhillyFlash]

All there major news networks are fighting each other for ratings, they have done 24/7 news reports over the same information, about his kids, well, and where will pop star be buried at. It getting to point where I don't want watch news ever more. There no new information and jackson family is still in a mess about his well.

Yeah, And Jacko's on the cover of every magazine in the land save for Field & Stream, Sports Illustrated and Soldier of Fortune. Fortunately, it's been easy for me to ignore all the Jacko hysteria as the circus continues.

[autsiticanime]

It seems everywhere you go, you can't escape Michael. I was in a steakhouse the other day, when the televisions (which are always on some music video station) just randomly played "Remember the time". I don't even think it was intentional, because they were still playing videos of other artists before and after it.

Even if I wasn't a fan, I gave it the opportunity to raise my empty glass to him...as a tribute.

[fujyoshi]

Which is why everyone should stop writing when they start froathing at the mouth in rage.

/heh that made me laugh sounds like we have a resident that is like my mom on here though

It seems everywhere you go, you can't escape Michael. I was in a steakhouse the other day, when the televisions (which are always on some music video station) just randomly played "Remember the time". I don't even think it was intentional, because they were still playing videos of other artists before and after it.

Even if I wasn't a fan, I gave it the opportunity to raise my empty glass to him...as a tribute.

yea I know what cha mean. I'm not a fan either and hes on every channel now o_o

[goddessofanime]

You know, I realize MJ was legendary and an pop culture icon....

Does every goddamn station in the country seriously need to broadcast that memorial service Tuesday? I mean seriously....the man wasn't the President or the Pope. He wasn't even Princess Diana. And more and more, its starting to look like he died due to drugs.

Broadcast it on something like E but come on now....CNN? HLN? Broadcast channels? Really....this is turning into the most tragic but also annoyingly omnipresent celebrity death ever.

[fujyoshi]

meh I know about his rep but I'm one 'a those people who aren't into what everyone else is into. I'm assuming for the most part thats half way obvious.

[goddessofanime]

meh I know about his rep but I'm one 'a those people who aren't into what everyone else is into. I'm assuming for the most part thats half way obvious.

I wouldn't call myself a fan either, but I did like his music for the most part...though that 'You Rock My World' song with Chris Tucker sucked.

The Jackson 5/'Off the Wall' era though....that truly rocked.

[fujyoshi]

I wouldn't call myself a fan either, but I did like his music for the most part...though that 'You Rock My World' song with Chris Tucker sucked.

The Jackson 5/'Off the Wall' era though....that truly rocked.

I like the shiny outfits -_= mom says half the stuff I wear even though its cosplay looks like something he would have worn. I guess I'm one 'a those people who are more indifferent to it. Like for example I knew it was a big deal wit the star search guy died too but since it was not really something I was into it was just like meh. Ok yea I'm actually TRYING to say this in the least rude way as possible /swt

[goddessofanime]

I like the shiny outfits -_= mom says half the stuff I wear even though its cosplay looks like something he would have worn. I guess I'm one 'a those people who are more indifferent to it. Like for example I knew it was a big deal wit the star search guy died too but since it was not really something I was into it was just like meh. Ok yea I'm actually TRYING to say this in the least rude way as possible /swt

Well really at 19, you probaly know him more as an alleged pedophile or as a white woman than for his music.

That bit they keep showing on the news when he's about to announce his comeback tour? Jesus, he looks like Skeletor

[fujyoshi]

Well really at 19, you probaly know him more as an alleged pedophile or as a white woman than for his music.

That bit they keep showing on the news when he's about to announce his comeback tour? Jesus, he looks like Skeletor

/heh yea probably. My mom gets mad at me if I make fun 'a micheal jackson

[Shiroiyuki]

Well really at 19, you probaly know him more as an alleged pedophile or as a white woman than for his music.


That's the most ignorant thing I've heard in a long time.

Just because you are young doesn't mean you're oblivious to the past.

[goddessofanime]

That's the most ignorant thing I've heard in a long time.

Just because you are young doesn't mean you're oblivious to the past.

It wasn't my intention to be ignorant.

It was just a statement. And it's true. Most kids probaly would know too much about his music outside of the 'Thriller' era. I know some of the ones on here are influenced by MJ like ryushe and Haru...but there are also youngsters like taily who only know more about the dark side not the music.

If you're going to bait me into flaming you, you might as well ban me now. Because I don't want to get into an argument over something like this.

And if anyone else is offended, I do apologize. For it wasn't my intention to offend anyone.

[Shiroiyuki]

^It wasn't bait, it was a statement.

I know more about the 60/70's than the current generation I grew up in, and prefer it that way, but I fall into the category of 'too young to know anything about that' and constantly turn heads when I talk about something like...I dunno...MASH or Sonny and Cher or any number of things that I shouldn't know anything about because it happened before I was born.

I hate when people assume that children grow up with their heads in the sand, feeding off of whatever current trends the media throws at them, never possibly knowing about things that happen 'before their time'.

[goddessofanime]

^It wasn't bait, it was a statement.

I know more about the 60/70's than the current generation I grew up in, and prefer it that way, but I fall into the category of 'too young to know anything about that' and constantly turn heads when I talk about something like...I dunno...MASH or Sonny and Cher or any number of things that I shouldn't know anything about because it happened before I was born.

I hate when people assume that children grow up with their heads in the sand, feeding off of whatever current trends the media throws at them, never possibly knowing about things that happen 'before their time'.


Again, I wasn't aiming that at everyone. I'm not assuming that people have their heads in the sand. Everyone grows up with different things. Most people I know prefer the old stuff to the newer trends.


I'm not bashing young people...and it's not even about whether you grew up with old series or music anyway. Yay for you if you did. Probaly about 80 percent of the posters on here did as well or know about it. I know I did.

All I'm saying is that it's sad that a lot of younger posters know more about MJ as a tabloid freak than for his music. Not, 'they wouldn't know about anything'.

[ryushe]

I know some of the ones on here are influenced by MJ like ryushe and Haru...Influenced to do what exactly?


But yeah, I, in a way, agree with you. Both my Mother and Father are pretty big MJ fans, so it's just trickled down to me I guess, but, if they weren't, I'd maybe never even give most of his albums a listen.

But young or old, Allegations (have to bold that since some people feel it and fact at the same) or not, you should be able to appreciate his many fantastic songs, especially Man in the Mirror.

If only Hitler would have heard that song...

[goddessofanime]

Influenced to do what exactly?


But yeah, I, in a way, agree with you. Both my Mother and Father are pretty big MJ fans, so it's just trickled down to me I guess, but, if they weren't, I'd maybe never even give most of his albums a listen.

But young or old, Allegations (have to bold that since some people feel it and fact at the same) or not, you should be able to appreciate his many fantastic songs, especially Man in the Mirror.

If only Hitler would have heard that song...

I meant to say influenced by music. :)


BUt yeah....that's what I was trying to say.

[Midoriko87]

Well, the children in my family know nothing of all the 'shenanigans,' they're too young to understand, anywayz. But, they've always known music, and like me, they've known Jackson's music before being able to put a face to it.

I remember way back, my younger brother and I were watching TV and laughing at MJ. We thought he was, you know, a woman, an unusual woman. -_-; My older cousin walked in, and we were all, 'Look at this lady!' :lol: She yelled to my sister in the other room, 'Oh my God, they're talking about Michael Jackson! Well, I guess he does look like a woman, now.' Couldn't believe, THAT''S MICHAEL JACKSON?!! :lol: We were young, but I had seen Michael Jackson on T.V., before, 20-something Michael. Very shocking.

Anywayz, all the jokes and talk didn't come 'til Middle School, I think. Though, I think kids nowadays know less of his life. Like, 'who's Joe Jackson?' And, you're all, 'WHO'S JOE JACKSON? You can't be serious, go pick me a switch, and I'll show you!' And, they're all, 'What's a switch?' :( Truly, the end of days....

Oh, by the by, I believe in his innocence. Just felt I had to say that because of that 'shenanigans' bit earlier on. If I felt otherwise, I probably would've left a nasty message in this thread.

[Haro!]

Influenced to do what exactly?

You draw with a glove on your right hand at all times. You didn't notice that, did you?

And sadly most people born after the 80's probably do know him more for being an alleged pedophile.

[sumwhatkrazy]

Now theres a video on the internet claiming to be MJ's ghost?
Theres a MJ coincert on tonight, iam planning to watch at least some of it.

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Well really at 19, you probaly know him more as an alleged pedophile or as a white woman than for his music.

That bit they keep showing on the news when he's about to announce his comeback tour? Jesus, he looks like Skeletor

His hardcore fans will always be the ones who will know the most about him, just like any other celebrity.

It's difficult to know what types of news people will take in and what was considered garbage. People generally hear only what they want to hear. The media has been inundated with his life for a long time now; from the good to the bad to the weird. I used to have a friend who was heavy into his music and even some of the mannerisms (moonwalking and the like) but this was some time ago. Looking back, I guess it was my friend's gimmick to get attention.

But barring him, I have not come across anyone in a while that was so into the phenomenon (until now). I've no doubt they are out there though. The culture amongst the younger people nowadays is still difficult to gauge. True, you don't know exactly what someone is is interested in or know until you ask but popular culture has a way of influencing a lot of people and some do buy into it. Even though it was a generalization that you had put forth, it is understandable. It's plausible that people would know more about him now, because of his death, then when he was alive. Death is funny like that.

BTW...I'm glad people stopped updating their social networking sites for the time being with headlines, blurbs and all that other stuff. Hearing about it once was enough for me.

[Neko]

Reading this thread makes me glad I haven't turned on a TV in about six months.

[ThePhillyFlash]

Well really at 19, you probaly know him more as an alleged pedophile or as a white woman than for his music.

That bit they keep showing on the news when he's about to announce his comeback tour? Jesus, he looks like Skeletor

Well, I'm 50, and I knew Jackson more as an alleged pedophile or as a white woman than for his music. His last chart topping song was what, twenty years ago? And the freak show Jackson's life became easily overshadowed his music. As for his comeback tour, I never thought that was going to succeed, it had short lived train wreck written all over it. Fifty shows? Hell, my over/under was 15 before it collapsed. Harsh? Yeah, but that's what I think.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

The last MJ #1 single was in 1991 or so

[Soluzar]

The last MJ #1 single was in 1991 or so
Yeah but that one sucked, we all know his last one worth listening to was 1987. :P

[autsiticanime]

Acyually, I read somewhere that his last chart topper was 'You are not alone' in 1995.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Well the three of us have conflicting opinions I guess we'd better make out to see who's right.

[minmae]

Woah, certain people here are really annoying. Ew.


sumwhatkrazy, I know I saw the video and I have it on my dvr. It's so "OMG."

And I've been watching Michael Jackson's Home Videos. :D

Here's one. Start at 4:00. "Ah, dimwit." I love him. <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AhYqSMH06g

[Midoriko87]

:lol: I like it! There was a video of MJ and his children having a water balloon fight up on the Comcast website, I watched it before checking my email. Very cute.

I'm watching the videos, now. I laugh at the jokes, I'm too goofy not to, but I've always been under the impression that he's a good person and genuinely cares for children.

[autsiticanime]

Well the three of us have conflicting opinions I guess we'd better make out to see who's right.

According to his disography on Wikipedia, his twelve US number ones as a solo artist (13 if you count 1983 Say Say Say with Paul McCartney) are...

-Ben (1972)
-Don't Stop Til You get Enough (1979)
-Rock With You (1979)
-Billie Jean (1983)
-Beat it (1983)
-I can't stop loving you (1987, w/Siedah Garrett)
-Bad (1987)
-The way you make me feel (1988)
-Man in the mirror (1988)
-Dirty Diana (1988)
-Black or white (1991)
-You are not alone (1995)

In Australia, he only had solo 4 chart toppers. (Ben, Don't Stop til you get enough, Bille jean, Black or White.), 5 if you count his part in the Simpsons 1991's 'Do the Bartman.' (Yes...the cartoon Simpsons.)

[Soluzar]

I recant my earlier opinion in favour of saying his last single worth listening to was 1988.

[goddessofanime]

'You Are Not Alone'...that was the video he made with Lisa Marie right?

I know some of you all hate my a** right now but for the record, I never really believe those allegations.

Wackjob? Hell yea...especially after watching the Bashir interview years ago

Pedophile? No. Too obvious that the family was after money

[Soluzar]

I know some of you all hate my a** right now but for the record, I never really believe those allegations.
Seriously now who's going to hate you for that? My opinion on the allegations against him is that it ruined his image regardless of truth. I just wish it had never happened...