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Gaming_Bum
June 23rd, 2009, 09:05 AM
http://www.racebending.com/castingchars.jpg
http://www.racebending.com/castingactors.jpg

http://www.racebending.com/aangringer.jpg
aang

If you have never seen the show, for the most part it's inspired off of asian culture and mythology. But for whatever reason the main characters in this show are white and the bad guys are from places like India and Iran. How fitting! Like Seriously what the hell?

And before anyone says this should be in the movie forum. My point is about race. why does this kind of thing happen?

The Million Dollar Prons
June 23rd, 2009, 09:17 AM
Because it's just a cartoon dawg.

Mosinmatt
June 23rd, 2009, 09:38 AM
So what. It is just a movie based off a cartoon.

Trefellin
June 23rd, 2009, 09:44 AM
It probably happens because the largest pools of actors or predominantly Caucasian. You could definitely find enough talented actors of any race but why would you take the extra effort when you're making a crappy, CG filled action movie based off a cartoon you've never heard of?

loplop
June 23rd, 2009, 09:45 AM
Oh, I thought this thread was because they cut the tentacle rape scene . . .

Trefellin
June 23rd, 2009, 09:46 AM
Oh, I thought this thread was because they cut the tentacle rape scene . . .

They cut the...


NOOOOOOOO!!!

...

I wouldn't see this movie for free. It doesn't bother me.

Leader Desslock
June 23rd, 2009, 09:48 AM
Well, if they edited out the tentacle scene, it's never going to make sense now. It'd be like that Michael Bay version of Moby **** that left out the Whale and concentrated on the burly man-love between Queequeg and his Harpoon.

Gaming_Bum
June 23rd, 2009, 09:56 AM
So what. It is just a movie based off a cartoon.

Though it's a movie based off of a cartoon. But you know you wouldn't do a spiderman movie with a black spiderman, unless you were discriminating against white actors.


if the show was based off of a bunch of black kids, and the movie was made with a bunch of white kids, you would see plenty of people up in arms over it. If spike lee made the spiderman movies and replace the cast with all black people, and made the bad guys white people, it would be controversial.

The Million Dollar Prons
June 23rd, 2009, 09:58 AM
Though it's a movie based off of a cartoon. But you know you wouldn't do a spiderman movie with a black spiderman, unless you were discriminating against white actors.


if the show was based off of a bunch of black kids, and the movie was made with a bunch of white kids, you would see plenty of people up in arms over it. If spike lee made the spiderman movies and replace the cast with all black people, and made the bad guys white people, it would be controversial.

I could quote every sentence of this paragrpah you wrote and reply with "No."


Also way to not only cross post but to post in the WRONG FORUM. You must not be having a good day, Bum.

Trefellin
June 23rd, 2009, 09:59 AM
Well, if they edited out the tentacle scene, it's never going to make sense now. It'd be like that Michael Bay version of Moby **** that left out the Whale and concentrated on the burly man-love between Queequeg and his Harpoon.

"Call me... whatever the hell you want, big boy."

Gaming_Bum
June 23rd, 2009, 10:06 AM
I could quote every sentence of this paragrpah you wrote and reply with "No."


Also way to not only cross post but to post in the WRONG FORUM. You must not be having a good day, Bum.


how is this the wrong forum?

Trefellin
June 23rd, 2009, 10:14 AM
how is this the wrong forum?

There is a movie forum two or so doors down.

Gaming_Bum
June 23rd, 2009, 10:16 AM
There is a movie forum two or so doors down.

the thread is not about the movie. It's about race and why things like this happen. thats why I'm not really talking about the movie. just because a movie is mention in a thread, that doesn't mean that thread is suppose to go in to the movie section.... That's retarded

The Million Dollar Prons
June 23rd, 2009, 10:20 AM
the thread is not about the movie. It's about race and why things like this happen. thats why I'm not really talking about the movie. just because a movie is mention in a thread, that doesn't mean that thread is suppose to go in to the movie section.... That's retarded

First of all starting a race thread on a forum is always a good idea.

Also the fact the thread addresses the Avatar movie in particular, in title, and in content it should be in the movie forum. THen again you already posted an increidbly similar ost in the thread that's already on the movie forum.

You need to brush up on the manual for the internet man

Gaming_Bum
June 23rd, 2009, 10:30 AM
First of all starting a race thread on a forum is always a good idea.

Also the fact the thread addresses the Avatar movie in particular, in title, and in content it should be in the movie forum. THen again you already posted an increidbly similar ost in the thread that's already on the movie forum.

You need to brush up on the manual for the internet man

And I also mention the movie being whitewashed in my thread title, so therefore race is also mention. And I clearly stated that this thread is not about the movie, but it's about race! So therefore discussion about the movie should not be in this thread, only a discussion of race.

And since this thread is about race it does not belong on the movie general. If there is any threads on the movie general about race, maybe you should let them know it's in the wrong section

sorry I don't take the internet seriously enough to brush up on an internet manual.

Bernard_Monsha
June 23rd, 2009, 10:32 AM
Though it's a movie based off of a cartoon. But you know you wouldn't do a spiderman movie with a black spiderman, unless you were discriminating against white actors.


Kingpin was turned from a fat bald white guy to a big bald black dude. They made the Arab Ra's al Ghul into an Irishman. I don't see the issue your having.

The Million Dollar Prons
June 23rd, 2009, 10:32 AM
So would you still be pissed when\if\possibly already Japan makes a movie based off Hamlet set in Japan with an asian cast instead of Denmark? You probably wouldn't be. Damn hypocritical bar of soap.


sorry I don't take the internet seriously enough to brush up on an internet manual.

u mad.

Trefellin
June 23rd, 2009, 10:41 AM
So would you still be pissed when\if\possibly already Japan makes a movie based off Hamlet set in Japan with an asian cast instead of Denmark? You probably wouldn't be. Damn hypocritical bar of soap.


Ran, by Akira Kurosawa. Largely based off of King Lear, set in the Warring States Period. Filmed in 1985. A visually stunning and moving production.

Gaming_Bum
June 23rd, 2009, 11:54 AM
So would you still be pissed when\if\possibly already Japan makes a movie based off Hamlet set in Japan with an asian cast instead of Denmark? You probably wouldn't be. Damn hypocritical bar of soap.



u mad.

First of all you can't call me hypocritical when I have yet to answer your question. Second of all, well it would be kind of hard to judge japan. I mean America is a much bigger melting pot of different cultures and races. Also like you said the movie is based off of hamlet, it's not hamlet, it's based off of hamlet! While Last airbender is just suppose to be a live action movie of the cartoon

but hey congrats, you're finally on topic!

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff28/Mav707/internet_serious_business.jpg


Kingpin was turned from a fat bald white guy to a big bald black dude. They made the Arab Ra's al Ghul into an Irishman. I don't see the issue your having.

Well none were actually the main character of either movie. But because it happens in other movies, does it make it right? Honestly I don't mind that Zuko isn't japanese. But then you make all 3 main characters white, I'm suspicious

Bernard_Monsha
June 23rd, 2009, 12:05 PM
Well none were actually the main character of either movie. But because it happens in other movies, does it make it right? Honestly I don't mind that Zuko isn't japanese. But then you make all 3 main characters white, I'm suspicious

So the fictional land of Airbendonia is located in Japan, the entire series is produced in Japan, and the voice actors are all Japanese?

In that case I am very pissed off that Star Wars does not have enough Mexicans, we al know the galaxy star wars takes place in is the sombrero galaxy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sombrero_Galaxy) which has such features as the Serape Nebula and the Horchata Supernova. How dare George Lucas exploit my peoples native galaxy and not even put us in his movies!

Gaming_Bum
June 23rd, 2009, 12:14 PM
So the fictional land of Airbendonia is located in Japan, the entire series is produced in Japan, and the voice actors are all Japanese?

In that case I am very pissed off that Star Wars does not have enough Mexicans, we al know the galaxy star wars takes place in is the sombrero galaxy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sombrero_Galaxy) which has such features as the Serape Nebula and the Horchata Supernova. How dare George Lucas exploit my peoples native galaxy and not even put us in his movies!


Like I said in my original post, the show is based off a lot of asian culture and mythology. They dress in Asian clothing, they use asian characters for their writings, they use asian martial arts, etc etc. I mean the whole avatar thing, I believe that is based off of hinduism. Sure you don't have to be asian to practice martial arts, wear asian clothing, etc etc. But the show obviously has a huge asian influence, so why aren't the main characters asian or inuit or even native american?

taily
June 23rd, 2009, 12:21 PM
Though it's a movie based off of a cartoon. But you know you wouldn't do a spiderman movie with a black spiderman, unless you were discriminating against white actors.


if the show was based off of a bunch of black kids, and the movie was made with a bunch of white kids, you would see plenty of people up in arms over it. If spike lee made the spiderman movies and replace the cast with all black people, and made the bad guys white people, it would be controversial.

GASP ALSO NOTICE HOW THE TWO HEROS HAVE THEIR MOUTHS CLOSED WHILE THE BAD GUY IS SMILING!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! THIS IS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST SMILING PEOPLE!

it's coincidence, get a grip.

Bernard_Monsha
June 23rd, 2009, 12:23 PM
Like I said in my original post, the show is based off a lot of asian culture and mythology. They dress in Asian clothing, they use asian characters for their writings, they use asian martial arts, etc etc. I mean the whole avatar thing, I believe that is based off of hinduism. Sure you don't have to be asian to practice martial arts, wear asian clothing, etc etc. But the show obviously has a huge asian influence, so why aren't the main characters asian or inuit or even native american?

In Gundam they use English and dress in Western style. Thus all the people in the Gundam universe are white and should only be played by white people, even if they are Japanese.

Victory
June 23rd, 2009, 12:34 PM
http://www.racebending.com/castingchars.jpg
http://www.racebending.com/castingactors.jpgWow oh wow. This can't be real. I can't stop laughing.

Justinian
June 23rd, 2009, 12:42 PM
I understand where you're coming from Gaming Bum. I actually find it kind of suspicious that the hero's are little white caucasian kids and the villain just happens to be middle eastern looking. When in the show the hero's were actually more Asian looking than the villain. It's sad when a specific race is stereotyped as evil or immoral.

Gaming_Bum
June 23rd, 2009, 12:45 PM
GASP ALSO NOTICE HOW THE TWO HEROS HAVE THEIR MOUTHS CLOSED WHILE THE BAD GUY IS SMILING!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! THIS IS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST SMILING PEOPLE!

it's coincidence, get a grip.



do you have proof is coincidence? if you don't, no worries I don't really have proof otherwise. But that's why this is a discussion. get a grip

In Gundam they use English and dress in Western style. Thus all the people in the Gundam universe are white and should only be played by white people, even if they are Japanese.

Well it is pretty common for japanese to dress in western style clothes now. As for English, do they really speak English in gundam or are you talking about the dub? But in either case gundam is still a fictional world, and you're insinuating that these fictional people are japanese. it seems like you're understanding what I'm saying now. it would be retarded if the japanese people in gundam were casted as white americans, like it's retarded that avatar is casted as white americans

taily
June 23rd, 2009, 12:47 PM
^2 Oh for ****s sake. In the cartoon, the heros were asian and the villian is white, yet no-one seems to be throwing a ***** fit over that.

Mosinmatt
June 23rd, 2009, 12:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7WtLp9czzk
Come on guys, lets go. Race war.

Gaming_Bum
June 23rd, 2009, 12:54 PM
^2 Oh for ****s sake. In the cartoon, the heros were asian and the villian is white, yet no-one seems to be throwing a ***** fit over that.


I see what you're saying. But the cartoon is the original. I'd have a list full of shows and movies to complain about if I did that.

superplough
June 23rd, 2009, 12:59 PM
It's because that's what Americans WANT. they WANT to see arabs getting killed by heroic American Heroes. It represents the POWER america has over the world.

Every other country is america's *****.

The Million Dollar Prons
June 23rd, 2009, 01:15 PM
First of all you can't call me hypocritical when I have yet to answer your question. Second of all, well it would be kind of hard to judge japan. I mean America is a much bigger melting pot of different cultures and races. Also like you said the movie is based off of hamlet, it's not hamlet, it's based off of hamlet! While Last airbender is just suppose to be a live action movie of the cartoon

So the same can be said about the Avatar movie. The "whitewashing" isn't racist for the same reason you just dscribed. It's simply based off the cartoon.



but hey congrats, you're finally on topic!



Not really becuase I am turning this thread into a thread about entercourse with Iraqi women. Get ready.

Bernard_Monsha
June 23rd, 2009, 01:29 PM
Well it is pretty common for japanese to dress in western style clothes now. As for English, do they really speak English in gundam or are you talking about the dub? But in either case gundam is still a fictional world, and you're insinuating that these fictional people are japanese. it seems like you're understanding what I'm saying now. it would be retarded if the japanese people in gundam were casted as white americans, like it's retarded that avatar is casted as white americans

No all signs and writing in gundam is English. Thusly all the characters in Gundam are WASP except Lah Lah who is a guido.

goddessofanime
June 23rd, 2009, 02:12 PM
@OP

It's fiction. Who the f**k cares.

They did the same thing to Goku in the Dragonball movie. It's Hollywood.




They picked that cute boy from 'Slumdog' as the villian?

Black Cat
June 23rd, 2009, 04:17 PM
Katara and Sokka from the cartoon don't look asian anyway, definitely not white but not asian either. Toph looks asian, Katara and Sokka look hispanic or something. but arent they supposed to be based of eskimos? what the **** race are eskimos anyway


but everyone is forgetting the main issue here

did you have a look at Aang?


http://www.racebending.com/aangringer.jpg


wtf is that?

Midoriko87
June 23rd, 2009, 04:22 PM
Damn it, Gaming Burn, you're missing the big picture, here! It'll take too long to track down Asians (?) with light-coloured eyes! We're in a Recession (?), persons can't afford to be outfitting these brats with contact lenses! :mad: :uhh: Aww, sweet logic.... :thumbsup:

:lol: Kidding, I don't think there's this big conspiracy, but you make some good points, and it isn't right to ignore those points. This isn't a revamping; it's Avatar. Elements of the various tribes are heavily influenced by certain cultures, and there's nothing wrong with wanting a cast that actually reflects these influences. I'm actually not satisfied with the guy playing Zuko, like, 'Well, same continent, yea?' No.

Still, I don't think the children'll actually care, sooo... Meh?

Trefellin
June 23rd, 2009, 04:47 PM
what the **** race are eskimos anyway


They are in the "Mongoloid" racial category, like East Asians and other Native American groups. It is an extremely vague term but you won't find anything more specific because you aren't allowed to talk about race anymore in academia.

In Canada, they are called the Inuit since "Eskimo" refers to other groups of people indigenous to the arctic and only the Inuit inhabit Canada.

Ridley-X4
June 23rd, 2009, 05:12 PM
Avatar's fanbase is mostly shippers, anyway.

Arnold
June 23rd, 2009, 06:10 PM
The problem I have is that Asians don't really get a lot of representation in the media, so when an opportunity like this is provided and we can't take advantage, it's kind of an insult to us.

I have to agree with the original poster here. Plus it makes no sense to have white actors play roles that are clearly inspired by Asian culture. It's like having Peter Jackson direct The Lord of the Rings with an all black cast.

Bernard_Monsha
June 23rd, 2009, 06:20 PM
The problem I have is that Asians don't really get a lot of representation in the media, so when an opportunity like this is provided and we can't take advantage, it's kind of an insult to us.

I have to agree with the original poster here. Plus it makes no sense to have white actors play roles that are clearly inspired by Asian culture. It's like having Peter Jackson direct The Lord of the Rings with an all black cast.

So what, you're saying black people can't be wizards and hobbits?

The Million Dollar Prons
June 23rd, 2009, 06:22 PM
I don't see what'd be wrong with the Lord of the Rings cast being all black, it's not like the book said they were white did they?

Arnold
June 23rd, 2009, 06:23 PM
So what, you're saying black people can't be wizards and hobbits?

You really think that'll fly in Hollywood?

Siendra
June 23rd, 2009, 06:26 PM
Film is being directed by M. Night. Therefore, it would suck balls no matter how well cast it was.

Bernard_Monsha
June 23rd, 2009, 06:26 PM
You really think that'll fly in Hollywood?

Morgan Freeman as Gandalf? Yes.

Trefellin
June 23rd, 2009, 06:34 PM
I don't see what'd be wrong with the Lord of the Rings cast being all black, it's not like the book said they were white did they?

I believe some Elves are described as "pale" and having "golden" hair so no, I don't think you could have an entirely black cast and remain faithful to the literature.

But there is Lord of the Bling (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc0bkiji8b4).

goddessofanime
June 23rd, 2009, 06:39 PM
Morgan Freeman as Gandalf? Yes.

And Samuel L Jackson as Saruman

Midoriko87
June 23rd, 2009, 06:42 PM
Why would anybody want that? It boggles the mind.

JoeStrummer
June 23rd, 2009, 06:45 PM
And Samuel L Jackson as Saruman

Get these mother****ing Hobbit's out of my Isengard?

Old Ape Face
June 24th, 2009, 11:29 AM
aang

If you have never seen the show, for the most part it's inspired off of asian culture and mythology. But for whatever reason the main characters in this show are white and the bad guys are from places like India and Iran. How fitting! Like Seriously what the hell?

And before anyone says this should be in the movie forum. My point is about race. why does this kind of thing happen?

Is Airbender even considered an Anime?

if not there's your answer

guyverfanboy
June 24th, 2009, 11:54 AM
Avatar: The Air Bender is an American cartoon made for American consumption and just happens to be influenced by Japanese animation. Cartoon to movie transitions are NEVER going to be perfect. Get over it.

Tidusauron12
June 24th, 2009, 12:57 PM
A black version of LOTR could be insanely awesome, cause they'd ditch the swords and bows and pull out fully automatic weapons.:ssj:

Yeah, why don't you shut up now? :facepalm:

Seriously, you say the stupidest stuff sometimes.

Leader Desslock
June 24th, 2009, 01:08 PM
Morgan Freeman as Gandalf? Yes.
I'm picturing the scene on the bridge in Moria. Morgan Freeman facing off against a Balrog and screaming "You... Shall Not... Pass!"

That completely works for me. That would've been awesome. Of course, later on, when he says, "I'm no longer Gandalf the Grey... I'm Gandalf the White now..." I can picture the rest of the Fellowship snickering for a moment.

Michael Jackson could play Wormtongue, maybe. He's not manly enough to play Eowyn.

Caster13
June 24th, 2009, 01:26 PM
Yeah, why don't you shut up now? :facepalm:

Seriously, you say the stupidest stuff sometimes.

deleted.>_<

Bernard_Monsha
June 24th, 2009, 01:44 PM
I'm picturing the scene on the bridge in Moria. Morgan Freeman facing off against a Balrog and screaming "You... Shall Not... Pass!"

That completely works for me. That would've been awesome. Of course, later on, when he says, "I'm no longer Gandalf the Grey... I'm Gandalf the White now..." I can picture the rest of the Fellowship snickering for a moment.

The man played God and singing Dracula taking a bath, this would be childsplay. Oddly enough whenever I see Ian McKellen in LOTR I always picture him in a Nazi-esque uniform delivering the opening soliloquy from Richard III while peeing.

Dr. Ezra
June 24th, 2009, 01:48 PM
Is someone going to move this thread or what?

superplough
June 24th, 2009, 01:49 PM
Funnily enough I was going to mention LotR before, but decided not to. All the heroes are white, then there is one scene where Faramir and Frodo come across this dead Easterling, and he obviously aint white. I was like "RACIAL STEROTYPES" but then didn't actually care.

Bernard_Monsha
June 24th, 2009, 01:53 PM
Funnily enough I was going to mention LotR before, but decided not to. All the heroes are white, then there is one scene where Faramir and Frodo come across this dead Easterling, and he obviously aint white. I was like "RACIAL STEROTYPES" but then didn't actually care.

That was not an Easterling, he was a Southron/Haradrim. Great guns man you are bigoted even with fictional minorities.

Trefellin
June 24th, 2009, 03:08 PM
Morgan Freeman as Gandalf? Yes.

You don't say? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_negro) :lol:

deleted.>_<

:lol:

superplough
June 24th, 2009, 08:17 PM
That was not an Easterling, he was a Southron/Haradrim. Great guns man you are bigoted even with fictional minorities.

Close enough

guyverfanboy
June 24th, 2009, 11:50 PM
Yeah, why don't you shut up now? :facepalm:

Seriously, you say the stupidest stuff sometimes.

I thought that was the funniest comment I read on this forum in a long time! :lol:

Caster13
June 25th, 2009, 11:06 AM
That was not an Easterling, he was a Southron/Haradrim. Great guns man you are bigoted even with fictional minorities.

NERD ALERT! NERD ALERT! *stereotypical warning alarm sound* NERD ALERT!

superplough
June 25th, 2009, 01:53 PM
^ (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) lolcaps

goddessofanime
June 25th, 2009, 02:01 PM
So why is it that when someone argues about why anime characters are white, it gets shut down but this has now progressed into five pages and yet it's still going?



Just asking...

Bernard_Monsha
June 25th, 2009, 02:04 PM
Close enough

Yeah all those ethnic people look alike. Much harder than telling sheep breeds apart.

NERD ALERT! NERD ALERT! *stereotypical warning alarm sound* NERD ALERT!

Wow, how long did you sit up thinking of that?

Arnold
June 25th, 2009, 08:14 PM
So why is it that when someone argues about why anime characters are white, it gets shut down but this has now progressed into five pages and yet it's still going?


No idea. You'd think that anime fans, many of whom have a great interest in Asian culture, would be more sympathetic to this...

Old Ape Face
June 25th, 2009, 09:00 PM
NERD ALERT! NERD ALERT! *stereotypical warning alarm sound* NERD ALERT!

hmmm, ranting about someone being a nerd on an Otaku forum in the off topic section, as if there arn't obviously enough nerds to make this forum worthy of being called an Otaku forum...

Jia
June 26th, 2009, 01:48 AM
That guy has really big ears. :(

Siendra
June 26th, 2009, 01:55 AM
That guy has really big ears. :(

Pffft. This post resulted in a much hardier laugh than it reasonably should have.

Jia
June 26th, 2009, 02:03 AM
Well.....maybe that's why he's the villain. :(

Mosinmatt
June 26th, 2009, 08:09 AM
The chick playing Katara isnt as hot as the 2D one.....I am willin got bet this will be worse than the Fist of the North star movie.

Bernard_Monsha
June 26th, 2009, 02:13 PM
I am betting "Shyamalan Twist" at the end of the movie will be Ang takes off his make up and showing he is really Michael Clarke Duncan dressed as a Viking.

JoeStrummer
June 26th, 2009, 02:26 PM
^ I actually pictured that and LOL'd

goddessofanime
June 26th, 2009, 03:00 PM
Well.....maybe that's why he's the villain. :(

But it's Jamal from Slumdog!!! :(

He's awesome!

Siendra
June 26th, 2009, 06:52 PM
I am betting "Shyamalan Twist" at the end of the movie will be Ang takes off his make up and showing he is really Michael Clarke Duncan dressed as a Viking.

My bet's on the whole thing being a dream had by a kid with a stuffed version of the flying thingie from the cartoon.

The Million Dollar Prons
June 26th, 2009, 06:55 PM
My bet is Starscream will fly away and Optimus Prime will place a beacon to call reinforcments from the other autobots.

Yes I am implying that in the last 10 minutes of the movie, the Transformers will show up and mess with Ang's head.

Trefellin
June 26th, 2009, 07:07 PM
I'd watch it if at the end Biff Byford comes out of nowhere, kicks someone in the chest and then then sings Wheels of Steel with the rest of Saxon who spontaneously appear out of a cloud of smoke.

SapperSix
June 26th, 2009, 08:46 PM
I'd watch it, if it featured Steven Seagal punching people in the balls.

Jia
June 26th, 2009, 09:52 PM
But it's Jamal from Slumdog!!! :(

He's awesome!

>_> He should lose the bowl cut.

Pessimist
June 26th, 2009, 09:55 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/Rondoor/Problemsolved.jpg
http://www.racebending.com/castingactors.jpg

Well, I'm sure those white actors can be left standing in the sun for a couple of days and they'll be nicely tanned in no time. People can also use those spray things.

Mr. Tolkien back in the day was somewhat dissatisfied how his native country, one of united kingdom, did not have a proper mythological stories like which other countries could boast on. Well, there was the one about king Arthur, but sadly it was first written down by the French, so it did not really do. So, Mr. Tolkien grasped for his pen and started to write about the Hobbies.

Old Ape Face
June 27th, 2009, 10:52 AM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/Rondoor/Problemsolved.jpg
http://www.racebending.com/castingactors.jpg

Well, I'm sure those white actors can be left standing in the sun for a couple of days and they'll be nicely tanned in no time. People can also use those spray things.

Mr. Tolkien back in the day was somewhat dissatisfied how his native country, one of united kingdom, did not have a proper mythological stories like which other countries could boast on. Well, there was the one about king Arthur, but sadly it was first written down by the French, so it did not really do. So, Mr. Tolkien grasped for his pen and started to write about the Hobbies.

you mean Hobbits

Shiroiyuki
June 27th, 2009, 11:01 AM
2^That girl looks like she's six, which is nasty.

Mosinmatt
June 27th, 2009, 12:24 PM
Mr. Tolkien back in the day was somewhat dissatisfied how his native country, one of united kingdom, did not have a proper mythological stories like which other countries could boast on. Well, there was the one about king Arthur, but sadly it was first written down by the French, so it did not really do. So, Mr. Tolkien grasped for his pen and started to write about the Hobbies.

And the elves, dwarves, trolls etc etc, are all Scandinavian based...so that doesn't do either :P
Scandinavian myth even has "light" and "dark" elves. The dark elves even have black skin and live underground.

Sharp-kun
June 27th, 2009, 12:26 PM
I get the feeling I'm meant to care about this.

I like Avatar, I enjoyed the series. I have no interest in a movie version however. As for the race thing, I have more important things to care about. Perhaps the producers/casters/direcor have veiled racial reasons for the casting, or perhaps its a combination of finding people willing to star in it, at the right time, at the right cost. Who knows.

Old Ape Face
June 27th, 2009, 12:31 PM
And the elves, dwarves, trolls etc etc, are all Scandinavian based...so that doesn't do either :P
Scandinavian myth even has "light" and "dark" elves. The dark elves even have black skin and live underground.

well Tolkien was partially African, I supose, Tolkien's British side in LOTR is pronounced exclusively by the Hobbits. notice their dialect and there customs aren't exactly Scandinavian, more or less of a British feel I supose? Even with a home called "The Shire" which was technically a British term for home.

The Elves and the Dwarfs and everything else, was clearly an addition to the adventure for the hobbits to mingle with.

He also refused to call it a fairy tale becuase Fairy Tail is sort of a Christian thing and he didn't want any real world religious references in the story.

And he wanted it to be read as if someone was reading it to an audiance. thus pretty much all the dialect is surrounded by ' ' single quotation marks as if to say some far off voice is narrating the story.

hehe I read his Forward at the beginning of the LOTR trilogy long time ago.

The Million Dollar Prons
June 27th, 2009, 02:28 PM
I never read Tolkien but I have Led Zeppelin 4 on Vinyl

Old Ape Face
June 27th, 2009, 05:45 PM
I never read Tolkien but I have Led Zeppelin 4 on Vinyl

you are my hero Prons only you.

RecentMidget
June 28th, 2009, 07:57 AM
But in either case gundam is still a fictional world, and you're insinuating that these fictional people are japanese. it seems like you're understanding what I'm saying now. it would be retarded if the japanese people in gundam were casted as white americans, like it's retarded that avatar is casted as white americans

you do realize that any hope you had of an argument of any kind just shoved its head up its own *** right?

Clearly you are just looking at the skin color, clothes, and environment, rather than just saying to yourself 'its an american ripoff of an anime!'. Like they did with speed racer, dbz, victim #39, they all do the same thing, put in any new actors they can find, slap a 'popular' (if it could be called that) title on there and see how it sells. not very suprising considering America is a country based off of a bunch of cultures, so why wouldn't they take an anime and make it 'white' as you said.

Arnold
June 29th, 2009, 09:14 PM
you do realize that any hope you had of an argument of any kind just shoved its head up its own *** right?

Clearly you are just looking at the skin color, clothes, and environment, rather than just saying to yourself 'its an american ripoff of an anime!'. Like they did with speed racer, dbz, victim #39, they all do the same thing, put in any new actors they can find, slap a 'popular' (if it could be called that) title on there and see how it sells. not very suprising considering America is a country based off of a bunch of cultures, so why wouldn't they take an anime and make it 'white' as you said.

Since America's such a multicultural country, why do they need to take an anime and make it white?

Bernard_Monsha
June 29th, 2009, 09:38 PM
Since America's such a multicultural country, why do they need to take an anime and make it white?

Because the predominate culture in America is (gasp) American?

GreatNekoKoneko
June 30th, 2009, 09:01 AM
Because the predominate culture in America is (gasp) American?

... GASP! oh lawdie lawd! i thoughts it was the mexicanes?

goddessofanime
June 30th, 2009, 12:46 PM
Since America's such a multicultural country, why do they need to take an anime and make it white?

They'll go for whomever they feel the target audience is. Plus, Hollywood thinks of minorities as teh villians.

Arnold
June 30th, 2009, 06:54 PM
Because the predominate culture in America is (gasp) American?

Why do you presume that American = White?

America's either multicultural or it's not. If you want to target "mainstream American culture" (whatever that is) then why adapt something that's based on another culture?

The Million Dollar Prons
June 30th, 2009, 07:44 PM
Why do you presume that American = White?

Because Bernard is Mexican.