All hail the new hokage-sama

[Hokage Izlude]

A new regime to the ninja world is about to explode! Akatsuki is going DOWN.

Sasuke? Danzo will hunt his *** down and capture him, and then slowly kill him.

[final flash]

a new regime to the ninja world is about to explode! Akatsuki is going down.

Sasuke? Danzo will hunt his *** down and capture him, and then slowly kill him.

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[Pessimist]

Well, it remains to be seen if he stays Hokage for long.

[Hokage Izlude]

Danzo will use his powers of God Fujin Shinigami Shikikami Okami No Jutsu and extract the Nine Tailed Fox Demon from Naruto and use it to augment his powers, and then defeat Madara by unleashing his hidden EVIL EYE.

[Pessimist]

It's called Sharingan.

[Hokage Izlude]

No, Danzo doesn't have sharingan. Underneath those bandages he has TEH EVIL EYE. A special new type of dou-jutsu that kills with a mere wink of an eye.

[Big Shot]

Please don't brind this here, there's a growing number of people that think that either Madara and Danzou are working together, or Madara's controlling Danzou, or Danzou and Madara = the same person. *sigh*

[Hokage Izlude]

I thought that theory was retarded.

[MightyDustLoop]

Agreed. Danzou isn't half as cool as Madara. No way they could be the same person.

I like the Madara is a hot female under that cloak theory.

[DatFatPat]

I thought everyone agreed that Tobi is really Obito and not Madara like the manga says he is.

[goddessofanime]

Which one was Danzo again?

So many damn wannabes...between Pain and Nagato and his damn dog and Konan and Akatsuki...I can't keep track

[Brill]

Unless you believe Dnazou IS Madara. There are some wierd theories floating out there. Personally I don't believe this one.

[phash69]

I believe Danzo is about to be the shortest lived Hokage. Sasuke on the way and Madara having told him that Danzo and the leaders of Konoha ordered his family's death? Danzo = Dead Meat. At least I hope so. He has so far been the least interesting villain we've had in the series.

[Hokage Izlude]

I think Danzo is an interesting kind of "bad guy" since he is on Konoha's side. He's not an semi-immortal pedophile like Orochimaru, or a emo ***** like Pain/Nagato, or a god modded immortal turd like Madara.

Danzo is gonna kick Fagsuke's @$$.

[ffl]

He's the most annoying villain because I really don't care to see more about him, but he manages to pop up in the manga at "random" times just to do things that peeve me off. Handicapped old-guy with bandages all over his body does not come across as a cool and powerful villain character. Although his craftiness and ability to pop up at inopportune times and makes things even more inopportune does add a different dimension to Naruto's cast of villains.

[phash69]

I personally would like nothing more than to see Sasuke get his *** kicked. However, I am hoping it's by Naruto. Danzo doesnt even have creepy factor for me. He just pisses me off whenever I see him.

[DavenIII]

I can buy Danzo is working for Madara.

[Mr. sickVisionz]

He's not an semi-immortal pedophile like Orochimaru

Orochimaru isn't a pedophile!!!! He's just smart.

Being a master ninja means you're a master at ninjutsu. There is no way to master all known jutsu and fully understand them in one life time. Because of bloodline traits, you can't master them with just one body.

Orochimaru realizes this and found a way to get around it: stealing people's body. Now, he could steal an old person's body, but whats the point? The body is old and decrepit. That's why he steals children. And not just any children. If you're gonna take a body, you might as well as find a kid with a good bloodline trait. Not only does he get a new body, but he learns how to use and master all the jutsu associated with that. And hey, why waste it on some weak kid? Nah, you should do all the wild techniques that only have a low survival rate but can make your insanely powerful. Rather than experiment on yourself and possibly die, you use whoever survives your experiments. That way when you steal their body, it's this epic body that can go curse seal level 3 and has already mastered all these bloodline related jutsu.

Logically it all makes sense. Stealing adult bodies is epic fail.
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As far as Danzou, I think he gets too much hate. Sarutobi, Tsunade and the 3rd were nicer, but you don't always need kindness. Sometimes you need resolve. Sometimes you have to be willing to make the tough calls that others are too afraid to make. They couldn't make these calls and Konoha suffered with near or total destruction because of it.

I guarantee you that if Danzou found Orochimaru experimenting on people in the sewers, he would'nt have let him walk away. He would have killed or arrested him. Basically everything bad that happened during the early series would have been avoided if Sarutobi hadn't been afraid to make the tough decisions. That's not a good leader.

Danzou may be calculating and decisive, but i'd prefer that type of leader to one who smiles and causes the village to be destroyed.

[ffl]

Danzou may be calculating and decisive, but i'd prefer that type of leader to one who smiles and causes the village to be destroyed.

The main difference is that Danzou will cause that destruction from the inside out rather than the outside in. Anyway, Danzou was smiling all throughout Konoha's destruction by Pain, so that's not a leader I'd want to stand by at all. He allows others to suffer for his own gain.

[MightyDustLoop]

Plus Danzou's the one who ordered the elimination of the Uchihas, even if they've not directly come out and said it yet. Who wants more acts of atrocity like that?

Of course I suspect he wanted the Uchiha dead because he worked with them in the very same incident he had them killed for (nine tails), and just wanted to cover it up. But we shall see in the coming weeks.

[goddessofanime]

Oh. THAT Danzou.


Guess we'll probaly see about six months of Emosuke being 'This is my RAWR I"M PISSED' look.

[Kcets]

I am peeved that the original requirements for being Hokage haven't been applied to Danzo. From what I've seen in the manga so far, it's obvious Danzo has skills, but you can't honestly tell me that he's the most powerful ninja in Konoha. The Hokage is supposed to be the strongest ninja in the village. At this point I'm susspecting foul play between the Fire Lord and Danzo, he got his position pretty damn quickly with absolutely no debate. Plus, you can't tell me that he's stronger than Kakashi or Naruto.

As for the theory that Danzo = Madara, I can deffinately see where those who support it are coming from. However, certain factors dissprove the theory for me. One of these is the shape of Danzo's head. His head is clearly much wider than Madara's head as shown in the chapters where he's talking to Sasuke. Also, since Danzo's good eye is his right while Madara's is his left, from a fighter's standpoint it would be incredibly illogical for Madara to not use both his eyes while fighting if they are in working order. Another factor is Danzo's actions during Naruto's fight. If he was Madara, there's no way he would just sit by while Pain had so much trouble with Naruto. This is especially applied when Naruto goes Kyuubi, because there's no chance that Madara would pass up the chance to use his powers and control Kyuubi. These reasons are why I don't believe Danzo is Madara, but if it turns out I'm wrong, I deffinately won't be surprised.

There are factors I see that support the theory. Madara's ability to use dementional jutsu on himself could explain his ability to be in Konoha as Danzo one minute and in the Rain Country as Tobi the next. Danzo's features (bandages, scars, hair) match uncannily well if he is Madara. The position on the council (now as Hokage) would help him TREMENDOUSLY in the control and capture of Naruto. If Madara is Danzo, it creates the perfect tie for a Sasuke and Naruto combined fight and covers two plot devices with one stone; one of which is Sasuke's vengence on the council, and the other Naruto's coupe against a corrupt Hokage (this one hasn't been established yet, but I think we all see it coming).

[Big Shot]

Or he COULD be puppet of Madara, like a semi-member of Akatsuki, we've recently been shown how he's not above working with the enemy (Hanzou) in order to achieve his goal.

[SonRyu]

I'm wondering what makes Danzou FIT to be Hokage. He appears to be a cripple, so I wouldn't think him capable of defending the village physically like Sandaime did. Unless he really looks like this underneath:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4087/danzou.jpg

[Big Shot]

Yeah, the Third was a pimp, Oro wouldn't have done crap to him if it wasn't for his age.

[Mr. sickVisionz]

Was there really a rule that only the strongest fighter in the village can be the Hokage? That seems like the dumbest idea ever. I always thought the Hokage was like the president. It's way better to have the smartest guy running the country than the guy who can punch the hardest.

Yeah, the Third was a pimp, Oro wouldn't have done crap to him if it wasn't for his age.

I think you grossly under estimate Orochimaru. It's understandable because his power levels seems to wildly fluctuate throughout the series but I don't think a young Sarutobi is going to be pwning Orochimaru. To say that is the same as saying that the first two Hokages are bad fighters and can't hold their own in a 3 vs 1 match where they have the number advantage.

[ffl]

Was there really a rule that only the strongest fighter in the village can be the Hokage? That seems like the dumbest idea ever. I always thought the Hokage was like the president. It's way better to have the smartest guy running the country than the guy who can punch the hardest.


As we've seen, those who become Hokage are strong enough to protect the village, since it's a ninja village and is essentially the military of the country that it resides in, they have to show that they have the ability to defend the village from outside forces and to maintain the village's stability.

The daimyo is the one that just makes decisions without actually doing anything, which would be equivalent to a president, while the Kage is the one making decisions and going out there to take care of business personally as well, which can be equivalent to a military general. Since ninjas rely on individual abilities rather than technology, the high-ranking guys are usually stronger, smarter, and more experienced than rookie ninja. This has to be the case because if a ninja wasn't strong enough nor smart enough to survive on their missions, well... they wouldn't be alive to reap the benefits of successfully surviving their mission.

Anyway, anyone who can be considered for the position of Hokage most definitely has survived and persevered through enough challenges, due to their own talent, that there shouldn't even be a question of their intelligence. Besides, even in reality, the most intelligent aren't always at the top making decisions for their respective country.

Oh, and all of the previous Hokage also had the Will of Fire. Danzou doesn't seem to have it. Orochimaru didn't have it. Heck, I'll even say that those two old advisors/councilors don't even have the Will of Fire. As Shikamaru mentioned in this past arc, Naruto just has something to him that makes Shikamaru want to follow and help him. In my opinion, that's what a Hokage should have.

Yeah, a bit long-winded, but I just felt like typing up that response.

[Mr. sickVisionz]

Whenever people talk about Naruto being the Hokage i'm reminded of the Chunin Exams. There was a scene where people where discussing how everyone did in the exam and someone was like, "Naruto did pretty good" but someone else was like, "But he never gives up. He'll never fall back and rethink the situation. He'll fight to the death and get his entire team killed before he considers regrouping or backing off."

Everyone in the room paused and then all nodded in agreement like, "yeah, that's not a good trait."

I think Naruto has those traits, which aren't good. He's strong, but I can't see somebody like that being put in a leadership of the whole country. Make him a general in the army or something, but don't have him making tactical decisions that affect the entire country.

Plus, Naruto isn't the brightest guy out there. From watching the anime and manga, it seems like for the most part, the Hokage is locked up in their room doing paperwork and creating policies. I can't see Naruto succeeding at that aspect.

[Kcets]

Plus, Naruto isn't the brightest guy out there. From watching the anime and manga, it seems like for the most part, the Hokage is locked up in their room doing paperwork and creating policies. I can't see Naruto succeeding at that aspect.

While this would noramally be true, I think Naruto's recent training and maturing has made him MUCH smarter and wiser.

[ffl]

Yeah, you can't really base your judgment on the 12-year old Naruto. Also, the assessment of those chuunin and jounin may have been correct when basing it on only that particular one-on-one performance, but it's only correct if they don't take Naruto's personality into consideration. While Naruto himself would fight to the brink of death, or beyond as he has, he wouldn't sacrifice his team at all. He would take the hits rather than allow them to. Hence why he doesn't want to use the Kyuubi's power.

The Hokage also does a lot of discussing and works out treaties and the like, which would seem to be right up Naruto's alley. While there is paperwork, Naruto may try to dodge it, like Tsunade did, and just have his assistants do it. Nothing wrong with that, since the Kage is essentially the village's figurehead to the shinobi world to showcase their power and prowess. Which is why Gaara was made Kazekage rather than one of those old guys. Because when push comes to shove, and most of the villages seem to get attacked every once in a while, the Kage has to step in and defend it.

We've seen the relatively recent examples of what the Kage, and particularly the Hokage, has had to defend the village against: rampaging bijuu, concerted attacks by other countries, rogue ninja, and a self-proclaimed god.:P In all of those cases, the Kage has had to give their life, in a way, in order to defend their village.

[DatFatPat]

Naruto WILL NOT be Hokage.


Why?? Anyone remember why Naruto wanted to be Hokage in the first place? To get love/respect/acknowledge as a ninja and as a person.

He has already done all that W/O being Hokage, so he no longer has a reason to be one.

I see him taking Konahamaru under his wing and they travel around together to help him develop and maybe write pervy novels and create more new insane Sexy Jutsus. :P


Plus, it is apparent that Shikamaru will be Hokage. I mean the manga hints at that throughout the story.

He is smart, a pretty good fighter and can handle paperwork (even if "it's a drag".) :) and he could easily beat the Akatsuki, especially Madara.

[final flash]

and the shika fans strike again -_-

[Big Shot]

Didn't Naruto clearly state that he wants to be Hokage as part of his plan to bring peace to the world, achieve what Jiraiya didn't know how to do, and what Pain couldn't do through the use of violence?

[ffl]

If Shikamaru's father didn't become Hokage, Shikamaru probably won't either.

[final flash]

If Shikamaru's father didn't become Hokage, Shikamaru probably won't either.

well said, shika will get a place in Narutos advisory team

[Mr. sickVisionz]

After Chapter 452, do you all still see Danzo as a "bad guy". I feel like the writer is going out of his way to show that while he's different than past Hokage, he's not a villain. Protecting the village is the core motivation for what he's doing.

With an Akatsuki member having destroyed the village and the revelation that Sasuke is a member of Akatsuki (after having left to become public enemy #1's apprentice), I don't think the rest of the village is going to be upset about him ordering Sasuke killed on sight... especially when letting criminals run wild was what caused the earlier destruction by Orochimaru and Sand Village.

[ffl]

After Chapter 452, do you all still see Danzo as a "bad guy". I feel like the writer is going out of his way to show that while he's different than past Hokage, he's not a villain. Protecting the village is the core motivation for what he's doing.

With an Akatsuki member having destroyed the village and the revelation that Sasuke is a member of Akatsuki (after having left to become public enemy #1's apprentice), I don't think the rest of the village is going to be upset about him ordering Sasuke killed on sight... especially when letting criminals run wild was what caused the earlier destruction by Orochimaru and Sand Village.

Yes, he's still a "bad guy" in my view. It's rather obvious that he was telling Sai what he wanted to hear. That's made even more distinct with the panel after that showing his text bubble with the ellipses. Of course, that's up to the reader to interpret that however they would like. For me, that just added more to the pile of doubt and distrust that I've already had for Danzou.

[MightyDustLoop]

The silence tongue tattoo reeks of doing evil crap

[Mr. sickVisionz]

Or something top secret, similar to how most governments have different levels of security clearances. I saw the tongue thing as like a cyanide pill. If you get captured by the enemy, you can't divulge the plans no matter how much they drug or torture you.