View Full Version : HOLY FRIGGIN' CRAP at Chapter 449!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (spoilers)
Big Shot
May 27th, 2009, 07:09 AM
Nagato revives EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...and sadly dies in the process. The only casualties of the attack are Nagato and Jiraiya.
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****!!!! Bring it on Sasuke, you little emo biatch!!!!!
結局ペイン戦で死んだのはジライヤとナガトだけ
the only one who actually died was Nagato and Jiraiya
ナガトは里の皆を復活させてナルトに託して力を使いきり永眠
nagato revived everyone and entrusted his dream to naruto and died
コナンは暁を抜けて2人の遺体を持って雨隠れでナルトの活躍を祈ってるっ てさ
2人の夢を継いだからって紙で作った花束をナルトに渡して帰郷
konan leaves akatsuki and takes the 2 bodies back to Ame. She prays for naruto's success and says that the two of them have the same dream (nagato and naruto). She gives him a bunch of paper flowers
最後はサスケが 木の葉に向かうぞ で終了
SASUKE HEADS TOWARDS KONOHA
fin.
SOURCE: NF
シズネ・父ちゃん蛙・おまけにカカシ
全員復活!!
背表紙はカブト
more:
なんか 魂には時間があるみたいで 今なら木の葉の連中なら間に合う 的 な
発言があったから 時間たっちゃうと魂消滅しちゃって生き返らせられない んじゃ?
*thanks to edgarluvitug from mangahelpers for the script and trans.*
I"m ****ing pumped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brill
May 27th, 2009, 07:40 AM
Yay, deus ex machina and everybody is alive and kicking. Although it could only happen this way I'm not too wild about it. When will Naruto break out his Zanpakto?
DavenIII
May 27th, 2009, 07:49 AM
Meh, I don't like that at all.
FARIQABDUL
May 27th, 2009, 10:19 AM
If true, disappointing. Orochimaru was truly evil, and that made him awesome as a villain. I thought Pain could maybe top him because he was destroying major and beloved characters left and right, beating down Jiraiya and Kakashi into graves and turning Konoha into a bloody crater. Even if Naruto was able to redeem his conscience through talking after defeating him, it should still be too late for those lost. I know Granny brought back Garra, but he was only mostly dead (Princess Bride reference) and it took her knowledge of puppet mastery and lots of the 9-tail's chakra. Why not just revive Naruto's parents too magically and have everybody go out for pancakes and ramen?
ZeroRyoko1974
May 27th, 2009, 10:22 AM
*insert facepalm here*
Cow
May 27th, 2009, 01:23 PM
The scans are real...
This is hypocrisy.
goddessofanime
May 27th, 2009, 01:25 PM
....
Waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iit the f**K a minute....
WHAT?
l0k1
May 27th, 2009, 01:26 PM
Phew
Kakashi's not dead
Lot of CAPS in that title btw.
Tidusauron12
May 27th, 2009, 01:32 PM
GAY
(filler)
goddessofanime
May 27th, 2009, 01:36 PM
Is this ending like now?
Tidusauron12
May 27th, 2009, 01:38 PM
Is this ending like now?
No, we still got Pein/Madara out there, and also, there's the issue of Sasuke.
ryushe
May 27th, 2009, 02:07 PM
Not to troll, but this is why I don't read Naruto anymore. **** like this.
And Kakashi Died?
taily
May 27th, 2009, 02:09 PM
Yeah I would say how stupid naruto is but then I realised I read a series with the ICE MIRRROR. Ok actually this naruto thing is worse so yeah hahaha dumb-blonde ninja sucks.
l0k1
May 27th, 2009, 02:18 PM
And Kakashi Died?
It was kinda suggested he did.
goddessofanime
May 27th, 2009, 02:48 PM
Yeah I would say how stupid naruto is but then I realised I read a series with the ICE MIRRROR. Ok actually this naruto thing is worse so yeah hahaha dumb-blonde ninja sucks.
Yeah, this is much more stupid than anything Bleach has done recently.
Gray
May 27th, 2009, 02:48 PM
Rocks fall everyone dies.
goddessofanime
May 27th, 2009, 02:50 PM
Rocks fall everyone dies.
That's EXACTLY what it is too
Tidusauron12
May 27th, 2009, 03:11 PM
That's EXACTLY what it is too
:huh: No it's not.
That what it should be. :lol:
Gray
May 27th, 2009, 05:48 PM
:huh: No it's not.
That what it should be. :lol:
Rocks fall everyone dies is any situation where the writer/person in charge makes up a stupid ******** reason for something to happen. It can mean everyone dies, or it can work in reverse like here when there's a stupid ******** reason why all the important characters will live when they should logically be dead.
Tidusauron12
May 28th, 2009, 03:57 AM
Rocks fall everyone dies is any situation where the writer/person in charge makes up a stupid ******** reason for something to happen. It can mean everyone dies, or it can work in reverse like here when there's a stupid ******** reason why all the important characters will live when they should logically be dead.
Oh! Okay, then yeah. :lol:
SonRyu
May 28th, 2009, 07:30 AM
I certainly didn't think Kakashi was going to come back like that. I hope he finished his talk with dad first...
I'm glad he's back though, still sets up for the Tobi=Obito reveal (Madara in Obito's body anyway). If Kakashi had stayed dead, then I would have given up all thought on the subject, as Kakashi is the only one it'd directly effect.
I gotta say though, after this, Nagato's character was a serious let down. He's been so bad *** up 'til now. This could only have gotten better if he also fixed Konoha while he was 'bringing back the dead' <_<
FARIQABDUL
May 28th, 2009, 10:35 AM
Since the last bad guys seem to be Sasuke and Madara (and maybe Kabuto), let's hope they show some evil cojones . Plus, if Pain can revive anyone he kills, why not reboot Jiraiya as well?
DatFatPat
May 28th, 2009, 10:36 AM
I woulda liked it better if Nagato got his body back to health and strength and him and NAruto had a hand-to-hand fight to see who is truly "the one who brings peace".
And There shoulda been more RInnegan. I want to see more of it and it now looks like a failure.
THis whole Pain thing failed miserably.
Kakashi I am happy he lived, Shizune....well, she wasnt important anyways.
I see Tsunade dead and either Guy or Kakashi replacing her.
As for the remaining Akatsuki members, this is who may fight them:
Guy vs. Kisame
Kakashi vs. Madara/Obito (Kakashi may ended up dead in this fight, but so will Madara.)
Kiba or Shino vs. Zetsu (havent seen Team Kurenai fight an Akatsuki yet.)
Sakura vs. Karin, for the right to win Sasuke's love.
or Hinata vs. Karin
Rock Lee vs. Jugo
Ten Ten or Neji vs. Suigetsu
Naruto vs. Sasuke
Effect
May 28th, 2009, 10:45 AM
Wow that's a horrible way to end the arc. To simply undo all that happen is just...ugh. At least the village is still destroyed....I hope. I can deal with Naruto letting him live but to bring everyone back like that.
crow-kun
May 28th, 2009, 03:54 PM
.................******** man.
MightyDustLoop
May 28th, 2009, 06:01 PM
And they didn't even have to gather dragonballs to do it.
DarkNataku
May 28th, 2009, 06:03 PM
Well I didn't want Kakashi to die but now that everyone is alive it's just bull. Kishi you hit a new low...
Big Shot
May 28th, 2009, 07:14 PM
raw is out guys
Simply amazing, awesome chapter.
ffl
May 28th, 2009, 08:20 PM
I enjoyed the chapter. It was a nice finish to the arc. It was a nice surprise for Naruto too, since he didn't go into it expecting Nagato's Rinnegan to have the power over life and death, but Naruto still stuck with his ideals and plan anyway and managed to pull out a win in terms of ideology.
I'm looking forward to the next chapter and expecting some sort of a celebratory type issue with the Lightning ninja coming in to inform Konoha about Sasuke and the Kage summit. Since Tsunade won't be in a condition that will allow her to attend, she'll probably send the future Hokage in her place, :) along with an entourage of particular shinobi. Kakashi's a good bet, but if there're any others, I can't really see anyone that would play a particularly important role during that event... other than their absence from the village during whatever event will take place there, Danzou's uprising or Sasuke's return.
DatFatPat
May 28th, 2009, 09:45 PM
I bet while on her way back to the Hidden Rain Village, Konan gets attacked and killed by either Madara or Zetsu. She will put up a fight (I want to see more of her skills), but still will be defeated.
I wonder why Jiraiya or Yahiko werent ressurected?
ZeroRyoko1974
May 28th, 2009, 10:12 PM
Naruto will save Sasktard with the power of friendship. He just has to beat him in a childrens card game to show him the heart of the cards. Then they can together defeat Pegasus, errr Madara
Cow
May 28th, 2009, 10:21 PM
I bet while on her way back to the Hidden Rain Village, Konan gets attacked and killed by either Madara or Zetsu. She will put up a fight (I want to see more of her skills), but still will be defeated.
I wonder why Jiraiya or Yahiko werent ressurected?
Because his chakra was quite low, it was implied that all he could manage was the villagers.
So after completely reading this chapter, its not as idiotic and full of hypocracy as I thought. In retrospect, I should of seen this coming with the prophecy. I am now, no longer, unbelievably angry.
I still think Nagato was a bad ***, and the message Kishi is trying to get across with the whole manga will hopefully not fall upon deaf ears. War is not the answer, timely yes, but quite honestly, I would preferred they stay dead.
All in all, this was still full of epic battles, and has been quite the arc.
I think Naruto and Sastard will fight, he will chage sastard. Sastard will live long enough to knock up Sakura, and then die saving Naruto from Madara.
Mr. sickVisionz
May 28th, 2009, 10:25 PM
Meh, I don't like that at all.
Same here. This is the worst outcome possible outside of fan nonsense like some Nagato and Naruto yaoi
Kcets
May 28th, 2009, 10:37 PM
Holy Deus Hax Batman! Everyone's back!
*cough*lame*cough*
DatFatPat
May 28th, 2009, 11:23 PM
I bet while on her way back to the Hidden Rain Village, Konan gets attacked and killed by either Madara or Zetsu. She will put up a fight (I want to see more of her skills), but still will be defeated.
I wonder why Jiraiya or Yahiko werent ressurected?
Wait..or...Kabuto/Oorochimaru kills Konan and steals the Rinnegan from Nagato's corpse.
LostNeverFound
May 28th, 2009, 11:34 PM
*blank look*
But with Shizune and Kakashi coming back to life, I was like FtW?o_o
If that makes any sense...
ffl
May 29th, 2009, 12:04 AM
Nagato couldn't bring back Yahiko and Jiraiya due to time. Nagato did mention that he still had enough time to bring back those he killed while in Konoha.
final flash
May 29th, 2009, 02:45 AM
I like it, I think he did it in a relatively convincing way, I admit I was hoping to see more of a good Nagato with him fighting madara, but if it wasnt to be it wasnt to be
Bastard King
May 29th, 2009, 06:52 AM
This chapter was written by Kubo of Bleach fame! I'm calling it!
Pessimist
May 29th, 2009, 06:59 AM
Hmn... Hinata seems to have gotten some competition. It seems the girls in ninja world give out the flowers.
Brill
May 29th, 2009, 08:04 AM
Konan id getting ready for her next job-undetakter. She can wrap up bodies and put flowers on their graves. Of wait, no more wars because the children of prophecy are here. I guess she doesn't have job security after all.
ryushe
May 29th, 2009, 09:22 AM
It was kinda suggested he did.Well, I don't read it anymore so It was a shock to me. I would have really been po'ed if I was a advent fan and this happened.
It's almost as bad as when you get to the end of a show or movie and find out it was all a dream...
Gray
May 29th, 2009, 10:07 AM
Well, it's still not as bad as Dragonball Z where they can just hit the bailout button everytime something bad happens by collecting the Dragonballs off-screen and wishing everything back to normal.
ryushe
May 29th, 2009, 10:11 AM
^ I mean, that was from the start thou, but I get what you mean. Well, that's the problem with the Shounen genre.
Jinto117
May 29th, 2009, 07:51 PM
Hurray for dragonballs reviving everyone!
Gray
May 29th, 2009, 09:06 PM
^ I mean, that was from the start thou, but I get what you mean. Well, that's the problem with the Shounen genre.
Yea, untill they screwed it up. "You can only revive people once" Oh, but its ok, because now there are these OTHER dragonballs that CAN revive people more than once. Oh, and there are also these OTHER dragonballs, but they're evil dragonballs! Yea, there's more than one set of dragonballs. *nod* *nod*
Bastard King
May 29th, 2009, 10:20 PM
To be fair, the third set of dragonballs were anime exclusive and designed strictly for the purpose of being a plot device.
Mr. sickVisionz
May 31st, 2009, 07:27 AM
Wait..or...Kabuto/Oorochimaru kills Konan and steals the Rinnegan from Nagato's corpse.
The return of Orochimaru is the only thing that can make up for this cop out Mai-Hime BS ending that the writer fed us. No matter what, i'm still pissed that he basically undid the most dramatic and exciting chapters of Naruto ever written.
Big Shot
May 31st, 2009, 07:46 AM
I don't know guys, this is exactly what was supposed to happen to close out the story neatly. This truly shows the power Naruto has in changing people, how much he has grown both mentally and phisically. And it shows he still has limits, he simply did not have an answer, but has faith in those who previously believed in him (Jiraiya). I personally couldn't have asked for a better ending to this arc. Nagato, deep down, truly was a good kid, but just went through a lot **** which turned his heart cold.
MightyDustLoop
May 31st, 2009, 08:25 PM
Well if he was gonna revive Kakashi, he should have shown him go down in a total blaze. I mean, fall back on a multi chapter send off like with Jiraiya since you know you'll get back lash for the revival, but at least show him go out decisively. This just feels totally weak to me. The Akatsuki had individual motivations, but to think even the motivation of the organization as a whole is so weak. I'd rather the leader have just been a blood thirsty psychopath.
Mr. sickVisionz
June 1st, 2009, 08:01 AM
I don't know guys, this is exactly what was supposed to happen to close out the story neatly. This truly shows the power Naruto has in changing people, how much he has grown both mentally and phisically. And it shows he still has limits, he simply did not have an answer, but has faith in those who previously believed in him (Jiraiya). I personally couldn't have asked for a better ending to this arc. Nagato, deep down, truly was a good kid, but just went through a lot **** which turned his heart cold.
I kinda agree with what you're saying and I think that everything EXCEPT for the revival does totally fit with the story. This arc was so serious in tone and so many major events happened. Kakashi and his dad was a great scene but now it's like they trivialized it. The same with Hinata and everyone else who was supposed to die.
Imagine how much impact the Hidan vs Shikamaru fight would have lost if Asuma hadn't actually died.
VidelCoolGirl
June 1st, 2009, 08:31 AM
See, this is why I lose respect for a lot of mangaka. Like, if you kill of a character, keep them dead. Don't puss out and revive them through some 'Oh! I've been saving up this technique the whole time!' crap. Its annoying. I'd like to say Naruto sucks, but the same thing is gonna happen in Bleach.
ffl
June 1st, 2009, 09:52 AM
I kinda agree with what you're saying and I think that everything EXCEPT for the revival does totally fit with the story. This arc was so serious in tone and so many major events happened. Kakashi and his dad was a great scene but now it's like they trivialized it. The same with Hinata and everyone else who was supposed to die.
Imagine how much impact the Hidan vs Shikamaru fight would have lost if Asuma hadn't actually died.
As Kishimoto has mentioned before in interviews, he'll kill off characters in order to develop other characters, i.e.- killing Jiraiya in order to better develop Naruto. In regards to the named characters that died during this arc, Kakashi and Shizune, Kakashi is the only one that has any real importance to the story, and, paradoxically, his own death will lead to the development of his character. The fodder characters can be considered non-existent in this sense since they're not really important to the development of the main characters or the story. Even Shizune could be considered a fodder character.
So when seen from this angle, Kishimoto used this method in order to revive Kakashi and further develop his character. So in a sense Nagato only revived two characters, and only one of those two will be likely to make good use of that opportunity.
Also, Hinata didn't die in the first place, so you can't count her as a character that was "supposed to die", and the point behind her sacrifice was so that she could protect Naruto, thus leading to potential development in regards to Naruto's relationships.
To consider a revival as instantly trivializing is a rather superficial view on the matter. Now, if all of the Akatsuki were revived, that would be BS because then we would have to deal with even more chapters that repeat previous fights which would take away from the weekly chapters that should be telling the story, but fortunately that's not the case. We have Kakashi back, and a setup for potentially more Kakashi-related background.
Tidusauron12
June 1st, 2009, 10:41 AM
It was still lame, though. I admit though, Hinata wasn't dead, it was stated she would survive. The only useful character revived was Kakashi.
DatFatPat
June 1st, 2009, 11:43 AM
Now that I think about it, why the hell didnt Nagato revive Yahiko back then?
Was it because there is a time limit to where one can be revived or is it because Nagato had not developed the technique.
I think Shizune lives only to DIE later.
NaruSaku
June 1st, 2009, 05:42 PM
Why don't yaw just wait until Madara comes and then watch as he slaughters all the characters we've come to know and love, I mean if thats what would please everyone, hey maybe Sasuke will kill Naruto and Sakura just to top it all off, would that make you people happy!!!!!!!!!
goddessofanime
June 1st, 2009, 05:49 PM
See, this is why I lose respect for a lot of mangaka. Like, if you kill of a character, keep them dead. Don't puss out and revive them through some 'Oh! I've been saving up this technique the whole time!' crap. Its annoying. I'd like to say Naruto sucks, but the same thing is gonna happen in Bleach.
I can kind of buy in a way with Bleach though...considering there's two major characters who can heal and literally bring people back to life.
But still..it's a lame-*** way to wrap up things.
ffl
June 1st, 2009, 08:42 PM
Now that I think about it, why the hell didnt Nagato revive Yahiko back then?
Was it because there is a time limit to where one can be revived or is it because Nagato had not developed the technique.
I think Shizune lives only to DIE later.
When reviving the village folk, Nagato states that he still has time to revive those that he killed when attacking the village. From that, one can intuit that there's a time limit.
adadqgg
June 1st, 2009, 09:25 PM
I woulda liked it better if Nagato got his body back to health and strength and him and NAruto had a hand-to-hand fight to see who is truly "the one who brings peace".
And There shoulda been more RInnegan. I want to see more of it and it now looks like a failure.
THis whole Pain thing failed miserably.
Not that much fail.
Pain DID kill a bunch of people, and we all know that shounen crap are not supposed to have dead people...
Now, the only thing, IMO, that is fail is that Pain made everyone alive again... which sucks as much as Kagura loses memory in Ga-Rei manga.
DavenIII
June 2nd, 2009, 08:29 AM
I can kind of buy in a way with Bleach though...considering there's two major characters who can heal and literally bring people back to life.
But still..it's a lame-*** way to wrap up things.
I disagree, the only difference between Inoue and the big guy (forget his name) bringing people back to life and the way it happened in Naruto is the way it's drawn...and some back story to it, but the same questions can be asked, Inoue can pretty much do whatever she wants with her power in bleach when it really comes down to it....so why doesn't she just wish Aizen never existed or something.
the only difference in my mind, is that in Bleach..the characters are sorta dead already since they are Shinigami...as opposed to living Ninja's
goddessofanime
June 2nd, 2009, 12:20 PM
I disagree, the only difference between Inoue and the big guy (forget his name) bringing people back to life and the way it happened in Naruto is the way it's drawn...and some back story to it, but the same questions can be asked, Inoue can pretty much do whatever she wants with her power in bleach when it really comes down to it....so why doesn't she just wish Aizen never existed or something.
the only difference in my mind, is that in Bleach..the characters are sorta dead already since they are Shinigami...as opposed to living Ninja's
True.
*that's all I got.
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