Martial Arts Thread

[Fobb]

Lets have a discussion shall we?

Do you take martial arts? Have you taken it previously? Do you enjoy watching sparring sessions? MMA?


Back in the day, I used to take Tae Kwon Do. Got all the way up to Purple before I had to move out of the city. Such a sad day that was.

Currently I'm taking Kajukenbo, still a white belt. I'm enjoying it a lot though. Whats the pain of bruised arms and legs compared to the sweet thoughts of knowing you just learned a new way to whoop ***?

[Holy Knight]

I started on Judo when I was 7, moved on to Karate at 11, and switched to Kung-fu when I was 16, though I quit in september, and haven't trained since.

Sometimes, though, I cannot help but do a few sessions here and there because I've practiced motions so many times now that I just have to do some kicks or forms, else I become frustrated.

If I ever pick an art up again, I'll probably look into Muay Thai. I'm not too interested in picking one currently, since I can pretty much just train myself.

[Rurouni Saiyan]

I study Tae Kwon Do. My school is rooted in Tae Kwon Do, but we incorporate other martial arts such as Silat, Muay Thai, and Judo, just to name a few.

[Fobb]

^My Tae Kwon Do dojo was like that too. We had that and Krav Maga. I regret missing the opportunity to learn that, it was once in a lifetime.

What country is Muay Thai from again? I'm tempted to say Malaysia, but for some reason I feel like an idiot saying that.

[Haro!]

^My Tae Kwon Do dojo was like that too. We had that and Krav Maga. I regret missing the opportunity to learn that, it was once in a lifetime.

What country is Muay Thai from again? I'm tempted to say Malaysia, but for some reason I feel like an idiot saying that.

As far as Sagat is concerned, Thailand. But the exact origins are up to debate. It is easy to be confused. Both Thailand and Malaysia have fine honeys.

[Fobb]

Thats probably exactly why I got confused

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Lets have a discussion shall we?

Do you take martial arts? Have you taken it previously? Do you enjoy watching sparring sessions? MMA?


Back in the day, I used to take Tae Kwon Do. Got all the way up to Purple before I had to move out of the city. Such a sad day that was.

Currently I'm taking Kajukenbo, still a white belt. I'm enjoying it a lot though. Whats the pain of bruised arms and legs compared to the sweet thoughts of knowing you just learned a new way to whoop ***?

Just curious Fobb, this wouldn't be Emperado's Method, would it?

[Fobb]

Why yes it is in fact.

Thanks for reminding me I gotta find my notebook before my test btw.

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Why yes it is in fact.

Thanks for reminding me I gotta find my notebook before my test btw.

Careful buddy; even the beginner moves are dangerous stuff but I don't need to remind you of that.

Notebook, awesome idea. Is it something you are doing on your own or is it required by your head instructor? I've heard that such a method is good for the forms and self defense moves. Keep your notebook up to date and it will serve you well when you move up the ladder.

[Fobb]

The instructor actually puts together a list or requirements for the belt you'll be testing for next, including how to do them.

Yeah, its really brutal stuff, but I love it.

Another cool thing is that the instructor said since I have previous martial arts experience, he'd be willing to let me advance faster. :)

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Yeah, well depending on how the chief instructor teaches, the format and content of the test may vary. But it could be all the same. It's probably all easy up until intermediate/mid level.

You're damn right its brutal. I'm sure you are very aware of its history and evolution. Being so open ended, it allows for you to incorporate your past martial arts experience as well as undertake study of other disciplines. So I've heard. ;)

It is considered by some the original MMA. Primarily striking, it looks as if schools are incorporating grappling/BJJ into the curriculum.

On a more serious note...I'm sure you had heard about Sijo Emperado at the beginning of the month. It's almost surreal as I wish I could have seen him in his prime. Last time I saw him publicly, he was wheel chair ridden.and looking very unhealthy. The fact that he lived so long is pretty amazing.

[Fobb]

Yeah, heard that it happened just recently right? It really does suck :(

I also heard another founder passed away recently as well, was it Professor Chang?

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Yeah, heard that it happened just recently right? It really does suck :(

I also heard another founder passed away recently as well, was it Professor Chang?

I've not heard about Professor Chang, although the ones that are still alive are getting on in years. But I think Prof Chang passed a few years ago.

It should be interesting as there was some fighting for promotions and the such from the higher ranks in the system. The bridge between West and East Coast along with the Midwest will be tested now. I really don't follow the drama and the fighting but I believe they made a council...with Sijo's sister on it. I'm sure your Chief Instructor probably knows a little more about what's being done and their intentions for the future of the system.

I'm sure you are a member of the CAFE (http://www.kajukenbocafe.com/smf/). I'm not as the bickering doesn't do anything for me.

[Meggles]

Ooh I want to join this thread. It makes me feel awesome just writing here...

I went to my 1st Taekwondo lesson yesterday and I signed on for a year. My next lesson is next week, and from then out I go there twice a week for a year. Its gonna be awesome.

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

I started on Judo when I was 7, moved on to Karate at 11, and switched to Kung-fu when I was 16, though I quit in september, and haven't trained since.

Sometimes, though, I cannot help but do a few sessions here and there because I've practiced motions so many times now that I just have to do some kicks or forms, else I become frustrated.

Judo was fun for a bit but submission grappling and BJJ are more fun...from what I've seen.

Punching a bag or a wall (maybe even a live body) does tremendous wonders for blood pressure.



Do you take martial arts? Have you taken it previously? Do you enjoy watching sparring sessions? MMA?


Back in the day, I used to take Tae Kwon Do. Got all the way up to Purple before I had to move out of the city. Such a sad day that was.



Ooh I want to join this thread. It makes me feel awesome just writing here...

I went to my 1st Taekwondo lesson yesterday and I signed on for a year. My next lesson is next week, and from then out I go there twice a week for a year. Its gonna be awesome.

I study Tae Kwon Do. My school is rooted in Tae Kwon Do, but we incorporate other martial arts such as Silat, Muay Thai, and Judo, just to name a few.
TKD has some of the greatest and flashiest kicks in the business. Hands down. if I ever wanted to improve my kicks to a substantial level, I would probably take lessons.

Meggles...just make sure you read the contract carefully. Those yearly contracts seem to be the norm at schools. I just hope it is something that you will enjoy doing because you are locked in. Also check to make sure that you are not signed up for an Auto Renewal. That can really affect your expenses in a pinch when you are not expecting a big bill.

Twice a week is the bare recommended minimum...as far as retention and practice are concerned. If allowed, I would recommend that you ask if you could go three or four times a week if possible. The major learning is not in the dojang but at home. Keep a notebook of the complex moves and forms and practice for about 10 -15 minutes a day when you don't have class. With that method, you can integrate your new material and apply it to whatever you had previously learned.

[Meggles]

Meggles...just make sure you read the contract carefully. Those yearly contracts seem to be the norm at schools. I just hope it is something that you will enjoy doing because you are locked in. Also check to make sure that you are not signed up for an Auto Renewal. That can really affect your expenses in a pinch when you are not expecting a big bill.

Don't worry, I need something to do to keep in shape. I'm really pumped about it. And we don't have auto renewal. I like the way the schedule is working. The way it works is that if I don't go to classes one week (say if I'm sick or something) they'll add on the classes to the end, so I have a guarunteed number of classes.

and I get what your saying about practicing more than twice a week. I'm just getting into it though righ now. I do work out at home. I spent today practicing the kicks I learned, punches, and stretching (the lesson yesterday really tightened up my muscles though, like my reach is way shorter than yesterday).

[Rurouni Saiyan]

If anything, you should be weary of joining a martial arts school that uses contracts. Martial Arts is not a business, so you may end up in a world of hurt if you sign a contract.

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Don't worry, I need something to do to keep in shape. I'm really pumped about it. And we don't have auto renewal. I like the way the schedule is working. The way it works is that if I don't go to classes one week (say if I'm sick or something) they'll add on the classes to the end, so I have a guarunteed number of classes.

and I get what your saying about practicing more than twice a week. I'm just getting into it though righ now. I do work out at home. I spent today practicing the kicks I learned, punches, and stretching (the lesson yesterday really tightened up my muscles though, like my reach is way shorter than yesterday).
I'm glad you found something that you like. It can be very rewarding and when Tournament time comes around, you can show other people your stuff.

If you are not used to the stretching at first, it may be difficult in the beginning. Those that take dance or gymnastics (aside from people who had studied previously) seem to have no problems with the stretching and kicks (do my dismay).

Please, keep us all updated on your progress. Although I make no claim as any expert, feel free to ask any of us for advice. :)
If anything, you should be weary of joining a martial arts school that uses contracts. Martial Arts is not a business, so you may end up in a world of hurt if you sign a contract.

I like the analogy. Martial arts as it is today is a business and I say that with a heavy heart. With all the marketing, the gear, equipment, school uniform and whatever other apparel, it is almost a full fledged business. A good instructor will know that certain students can't afford everything and give a little leeway. Contracts seem to be common, even though martial arts SHOULD NOT be a business. But they have overhead, bills and payroll to worry about just like any other business. Quality instruction should be the forefront of every prospective customer.

Rurouni, do they incorporate ground work into your training? Just wondering dude.

[tofuman]

I haven't really gotten what I want from the traditional martial arts schools I've been to, so I'm thinking about trying Krav Maga.

[Meggles]

If you are not used to the stretching at first, it may be difficult in the beginning. Those that take dance or gymnastics (aside from people who had studied previously) seem to have no problems with the stretching and kicks (do my dismay).

Please, keep us all updated on your progress. Although I make no claim as any expert, feel free to ask any of us for advice. :)[/B]


I like the analogy. Martial arts as it is today is a business and I say that with a heavy heart. With all the marketing, the gear, equipment, school uniform and whatever other apparel, it is almost a full fledged business. A good instructor will know that certain students can't afford everything and give a little leeway. Contracts seem to be common, even though martial arts SHOULD NOT be a business. But they have overhead, bills and payroll to worry about just like any other business. Quality instruction should be the forefront of every prospective customer.

Of course I'll keep you updated. :)

And the place I'm going to seems really cool. They gave me a free private lesson to see if I'd enjoy it, and they gave me my uniform for free. :naughty:

[Rurouni Saiyan]

I like the analogy. Martial arts as it is today is a business and I say that with a heavy heart. With all the marketing, the gear, equipment, school uniform and whatever other apparel, it is almost a full fledged business. A good instructor will know that certain students can't afford everything and give a little leeway. Contracts seem to be common, even though martial arts SHOULD NOT be a business. But they have overhead, bills and payroll to worry about just like any other business. Quality instruction should be the forefront of every prospective customer.

Rurouni, do they incorporate ground work into your training? Just wondering dude.

Yeah, we do ground work. Though rooted in Tae Kwon Do, we are what you might call a "total fighting" school. Basically, anything that can be used to defend in real life situations is taught at my school. We do Jiu Jitsu and overall grappling.

[Fobb]

I've not heard about Professor Chang, although the ones that are still alive are getting on in years. But I think Prof Chang passed a few years ago.

It should be interesting as there was some fighting for promotions and the such from the higher ranks in the system. The bridge between West and East Coast along with the Midwest will be tested now. I really don't follow the drama and the fighting but I believe they made a council...with Sijo's sister on it. I'm sure your Chief Instructor probably knows a little more about what's being done and their intentions for the future of the system.

I'm sure you are a member of the CAFE (http://www.kajukenbocafe.com/smf/). I'm not as the bickering doesn't do anything for me.
I've been hearing a little about that here and there, but not a lot. I was meaning to sign up there, but is it worth it to become regular? From the sounds of it, doesn't sound too pleasant?

I haven't really gotten what I want from the traditional martial arts schools I've been to, so I'm thinking about trying Krav Maga.
I've always regretted not taking Krav Maga when I had the opportunity. When I used to take Tae Kwon Do, they let you get in on any other classes they were holding, and at that time, they, along with a dojo in LA, and one other place, were the only ones offering it in the US. Let me know how it goes.

[Fobb]

Oh Oh, I'm still not a part of any group, and don't see any groups that I might be able to contribute to. Does someone wanna make a martial arts group?

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Of course I'll keep you updated. :)

And the place I'm going to seems really cool. They gave me a free private lesson to see if I'd enjoy it, and they gave me my uniform for free. :naughty:
The private lesson is usually free or heavily discounted. The workout is about 25% of the normal class routine. You are in for some fun.

Free uniform is usually the standard light weight polyester blend? When you advance in rank, you can chip in for the heavier weight ones. Wash often and since you will doing a lot of kicking, it wouldn't hurt to have the pants a little baggy. Then you'll be pimped out and ready deliver a beat down. :)
Yeah, we do ground work. Though rooted in Tae Kwon Do, we are what you might call a "total fighting" school. Basically, anything that can be used to defend in real life situations is taught at my school. We do Jiu Jitsu and overall grappling.
I see. So, street style combatives, unlike the sportive kind. Well, it does make sense as you are training for self defense. If it is real life situations, then can we safely assume that your kicks don't go past the waste or chest?
I've been hearing a little about that here and there, but not a lot. I was meaning to sign up there, but is it worth it to become regular? From the sounds of it, doesn't sound too pleasant?
It may be well worth it. I just hear things from word of mouth...although even Chief Instructors can be biased in their opinion. In order to be up to date and to connect with some of the other Kaju players, it may be a worthwhile membership for you. But it's almost a little daunting but it seems like most of the members are high ranking practitioners.
I've always regretted not taking Krav Maga when I had the opportunity. When I used to take Tae Kwon Do, they let you get in on any other classes they were holding, and at that time, they, along with a dojo in LA, and one other place, were the only ones offering it in the US. Let me know how it goes.
It still is readily available. But Kajukenbo is almost the same; a mixture of different martial arts to create an effective fighting system. The difference I notice seems to lie in organization. Krav, although very effective and practical, doesn't look like it has a structure or curriculum. I could be wrong...
Oh Oh, I'm still not a part of any group, and don't see any groups that I might be able to contribute to. Does someone wanna make a martial arts group?
Would it be catered to a specific martial art or dedicated to the different fighting styles that people are familiar with?

Plus, it would be a good venue to talk about some actual applications as it probably would not be appropriate here in the main forum. I just don't want it turning into a flame war about which martial art is the best and all the jive..

[Fobb]

I was young, so all I really saw them doing was the physical conditioning at the beginning, so I wouldn't know much more than you do already.

As for the group, I'm sure none of us are up to debating whats better than what now and all that, and yeah, an open discussion group for any martial arts would be a great idea. I like the idea of an information exchange.

[Spadesy]

Did boxing and kickboxing in my high school years, sparred with a Chinese martial arts practitioner on a frequent basis, dabbled in BJJ a long time ago and going by what is taught to us in the military. I'm a mutt of sorts.

[Spadesy]

^My Tae Kwon Do dojo was like that too. We had that and Krav Maga. I regret missing the opportunity to learn that, it was once in a lifetime.

What country is Muay Thai from again? I'm tempted to say Malaysia, but for some reason I feel like an idiot saying that.

Muay Thai is indeed Thai. I remember walking around town and seeing public matches going on (although scripted). Siamese boxing from Burma is similar to Muay Thai, but it is bare fisted and has even less rules.

[Rurouni Saiyan]

I just made a social group for Martial Artists and sent you guys invites.

Also, Kabuki, our school lives by a motto: Keep it simple. We just use what works for whatever situation. So to answer you question about kicks, when sparring, we kick to the legs and as high as the obliques on the sides and the solar plexus facing forward. No flashy face or head kicks unless you have a sure shot. For example, I tend to throw a crescent kick (inside or outside), whenever the opportunity allows.

[Fobb]

Muay Thai is indeed Thai. I remember walking around town and seeing public matches going on (although scripted). Siamese boxing from Burma is similar to Muay Thai, but it is bare fisted and has even less rules.
That must have been a sight to behold :(

I just made a social group for Martial Artists and sent you guys invites.

Excellent, thanks :)

[Trefellin]

My Aunt has done Tae Kwon Do and Okichitaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5-tcvVFrvo) which certainly looks badass. I've met Master Lepine and those warclubs look *****in'.

I've never really been interested in practicing a martial art. I don't even know what I'd choose. I'd probably prefer a "soft" martial art though they seem less effective in real world situations.

[Fobb]

Do you mean like sport martial arts?

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Do you mean like sport martial arts?

If believe sir, he is referring to something like Tai Chi or the non combative aspects of Wing Chun. Those would be considered 'soft' (internal arts).

Sport based martial arts can be pretty damn 'hard.' Unless it's just forms. :P

[Fobb]

Ahh I see I see :)

[Reidar]

I've been doing Western boxing since 12 and Muay Thai since 18.

The history is rife with ambiguity but Muay Thai most likely originated from the precursor form, Muay Boran.

[Fobb]

So you're doing both still?

[Reidar]

Yes.

Some guy on here in L.A. wanted to fight me, but I don't remember his username now.

[Fobb]

On AN? :lol:

Western Boxing probably doesn't, but does Muay Thai have any sort of belt system?

[Reidar]

Nope. Belts are a relatively modern Japanese tradition (starting with judo in the 1880s) so if some other place has them, they're an "adopted" anomaly.

This doesn't have to do with anything in particular, but for the contribution of the thread, this is a good archive on martial arts history someone gave to me a long time ago: http://ejmas.com/kronos/

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Yes.

Some guy on here in L.A. wanted to fight me, but I don't remember his username now.
Has an essence of Bullshido. Internet challenges are all the rage.

[Reidar]

They're not all bad or done with immaturity. I've fought a lot of internet people. This is from a Bullshido.net meet-up in 2005 (I'm the one raising my fist):

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/65/l_768e0bcb3926c310969edde90db1a898.jpg

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

The moments in life where one find exceptions to the rule.

It allows for a slight glimmer of hope that not everyone on the Internet lacks a certain amount of class or propriety. Although, a common bond among animals is what people strive to achieve. Comradery among competition has a time honored value.

Looked like it was a hella good time.

[Meggles]

Just an update: I've gone to three lessons so far, the first two were completely private and today I warmed up with the class I'll eventually be joining. I was really surprised to see that I'm more flexible than about half the class, and I had no problem keeping up with the exercise. The instructor even asked us as a joke to put out foot behind our head, but I didn't get it and actually did it. So yeah...

My kicks are getting better, but I seem to be messing up over things like blocks and stuff, so I'll be working on that until the next class. They were also breaking boards today (they have special breaking classes, and you have to pay for the boards you break). I didn't break any, but I watched and it was really impressive.

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Just an update: I've gone to three lessons so far, the first two were completely private and today I warmed up with the class I'll eventually be joining. I was really surprised to see that I'm more flexible than about half the class, and I had no problem keeping up with the exercise. The instructor even asked us as a joke to put out foot behind our head, but I didn't get it and actually did it. So yeah...

My kicks are getting better, but I seem to be messing up over things like blocks and stuff, so I'll be working on that until the next class. They were also breaking boards today (they have special breaking classes, and you have to pay for the boards you break). I didn't break any, but I watched and it was really impressive.

I did some board breaking a while back and yeah, they had the to nerve to make me pay for them. ^_^

It gets expensive and I didn't go to every seminar. There is a board breaking federation that you could join that gets you some discount. I still have a box of unbroken boards from years ago.

The first seminar was cool. Descending elbows, hammer fist, straight punch and some kicks. I tried to do too much for a thrust kick (three boards) and hurt my foot. The pain was so bad that I could barely break one.

It's an interesting experience and I would suggest your try it at least once. You'll have fun and it's a good way to strengthen your kicks and punches.

I'm glad you are enjoying the class and can keep up withe workouts. The coordination needed to utilize blocks with footwork will take some time. Just keep at it. :)

[Meggles]

It's an interesting experience and I would suggest your try it at least once. You'll have fun and it's a good way to strengthen your kicks and punches.

I'm glad you are enjoying the class and can keep up withe workouts. The coordination needed to utilize blocks with footwork will take some time. Just keep at it. :)

Apparently, they said I could try breaking at my first promotion, so that will be fun.

And yeah, my main diffuculty it walking and using the low block, for some reason my body just doesn't get it. ;)

[tofuman]

Took my first Krav Maga lesson today. It was pretty fun. Went over some basic grab and punch defenses. I'll be sticking with it for a while.

[Fobb]

Let me know how that goes, what kinda stuff you learn, etc.

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Apparently, they said I could try breaking at my first promotion, so that will be fun.

And yeah, my main diffuculty it walking and using the low block, for some reason my body just doesn't get it. ;)

I've gone an created a thread for you in the Dojo Club. Feel free to talk about your experiences there. :)

I'm not too familiar with TKD but I'm sure that things like half moon stances exist. The concept of the low block may be easier when someone actually tries to kick you. :P

Ps...show no mercy to those boards.

[master terrence]

I'm down to roll (grappling) with anyone if they are ever in Orlando after summer. I can usually get access to mats. I think it would turn out to be a nice exchange of technique.

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

I'm down to roll (grappling) with anyone if they are ever in Orlando after summer. I can usually get access to mats. I think it would turn out to be a nice exchange of technique.

You should join the martial arts club that Rurouni Saiyan started.

I miss rolling as I don't have time to practice as much. The invitation is appreciated but I won't be anywhere near Orlando anytime soon brother.

But it sounds like you got a nice skill set. Bring it to the club.

[Spadesy]

Re-working my form when hitting the heavy bag...I have a habit of glancing at my shadow every now and then to check on form, though I know it's a bad habit.

Also, bought myself some new Everlast gloves today (the flat looking ones with the foam padding). I saw MMA gloves that looked like they gave finger room today, but I decided against it as I didn't think any harm could come from using regular gloves. Any objections?

[Reidar]

Just as long as you wrap your wrists.

Bag gloves have less padding and are usually more angular because there's no concern about sharp edges cutting up an opponent.

[balisongnet]

well, I've been doing Jujitsu for seven years now, i'm a brown belt now. I'va also been doing Escrima for exactly four years, and I've just gotten my third 'degree' or whatever its called in english. jujitsu has become a natural reflex, it just grew to me. Escrima not so much since it's very hard to employ barehanded. It's a great weapon sport though.

I also practice nunchaku frequently, but thats just a hobby ( jup, I have had the famous groin hit once or twice ^^ ).

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

well, I've been doing Jujitsu for seven years now, i'm a brown belt now. I'va also been doing Escrima for exactly four years, and I've just gotten my third 'degree' or whatever its called in english. jujitsu has become a natural reflex, it just grew to me. Escrima not so much since it's very hard to employ barehanded. It's a great weapon sport though.

I also practice nunchaku frequently, but thats just a hobby ( jup, I have had the famous groin hit once or twice ^^ ).

Kali is difficult to get used to but I have not done enough of it. Just got introduced. I know a dude who trained with Sayoc for a bit and was showing some basics and another nice old man who studied Pekita Tersia. I may go back to it at a later time.

Jujitsu...by the spelling I am going to guess BJJ or maybe you are referring to JJJ?

Oh, the group shot I have not experienced but I did hit my funny bone. Not so funny.

[Fobb]

I heard it takes up to about 15 years to get a black belt in BJJ? Is this true? And does the same go for JJJ?

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

I heard it takes up to about 15 years to get a black belt in BJJ? Is this true? And does the same go for JJJ?

Sorry, I am not aware of how long it takes but it does take some time to get comfortable on your back and to learn how to develop a strong closed guard.

Fobb, to complement the striking in your art, you should look into some ground fighting. I think you would like it buddy.

[balisongnet]

Kali is difficult to get used to but I have not done enough of it. Just got introduced. I know a dude who trained with Sayoc for a bit and was showing some basics and another nice old man who studied Pekita Tersia. I may go back to it at a later time.

Jujitsu...by the spelling I am going to guess BJJ or maybe you are referring to JJJ?

Oh, the group shot I have not experienced but I did hit my funny bone. Not so funny.

The style I practice is actually a variation of Kali. It has been worked out by four Belgian teachers, called 'cinco tero escrima', the style did get official recognition from the IKAEF, but in the end it's practically the same. I don't know the styles your naming, I bet America has many many different styles to choose from, since you housed all the great teachers.

I practice Japanese Jujutsu. the spelling of jujutsu I am not certain of, I've seen all kinds of spelling. But Jujutsu is certainly correct. The title of my manual says Jiu-Jitsu, and my emblem Ju Jitsu, so i really don't know anymore :naughty:

Ps: groupshot? thats the same as the nutcracker right? or are we talking about different things? ^_^

[balisongnet]

I heard it takes up to about 15 years to get a black belt in BJJ? Is this true? And does the same go for JJJ?

There are plenty of blackbelts who got it pretty young ( starting from 18 seems the most probable ) years of experience certainly counts, but skill counts more. ( I'm talking about JJJ, i don't know about BJJ ).

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

The style I practice is actually a variation of Kali. It has been worked out by four Belgian teachers, called 'cinco tero escrima', the style did get official recognition from the IKAEF, but in the end it's practically the same. I don't know the styles your naming, I bet America has many many different styles to choose from, since you housed all the great teachers.

I practice Japanese Jujutsu. the spelling of jujutsu I am not certain of, I've seen all kinds of spelling. But Jujutsu is certainly correct. The title of my manual says Jiu-Jitsu, and my emblem Ju Jitsu, so i really don't know anymore :naughty:

Ps: groupshot? thats the same as the nutcracker right? or are we talking about different things? ^_^

Couple of things man....

When I said group, I meant groin. Groin shot....LoL.
I tried to be cavalier and use the rattan 'chucks right away instead of the foam padded ones. Not a very good idea on my part. But it was just an experiment. Unlike a Jo staff or Bo, it takes a little more time to get used to them...hehe.

There are some well known styles of Kali and/or Escrima in the US but they have their origins in Filipino martial arts. I tried it out but never really pursued it. I will probably go back to it later on.

The spelling of jutsu depends on what your are talking about...but the actual spelling is 'jutsu.' There has been debates about this before but if you study the kanji of the word "jutsu" vs "jitsu" you will see one is correct (jutsu). The variation arose when Maeda went to Brazil to spread Kano's Judo art. I prefer the 'jutsu' spelling personally but you see both spellings in books and magazines.

I remember talking to someone about this before but here is the long and short of it. This little excerpt says "Jiu-jitsu" is an older romanization that was the original spelling of the art in the West, and it is still in common use, whereas the modern Hepburn romanization is "jūjutsu." Other common spellings are jujitsu and ju-jitsu. So, usually what is seen is when you are talking about BJJ, you will see "jitsu" and when speaking of JJJ, you will most likely see "jutsu." It is an interesting history (name and martial art) to say the least.

Sorry, I did not mean to go off on a tangent.

Join the DOJO. I'll send you a link, yo.

[ZeroRyoko1974]

I knew dude once, he was playing with nunchucks (spelling?) it wasn't enough to hit himself in the head with them, he tried again and hit himself in the nuts

[Fobb]

Sorry, I am not aware of how long it takes but it does take some time to get comfortable on your back and to learn how to develop a strong closed guard.

Fobb, to complement the striking in your art, you should look into some ground fighting. I think you would like it buddy.

Its one of the reasons I signed up for the Saturday instructor, from what I heard, and assume, he'll do a lot of ground work and sparring.

[Fobb]

There are plenty of blackbelts who got it pretty young ( starting from 18 seems the most probable ) years of experience certainly counts, but skill counts more. ( I'm talking about JJJ, i don't know about BJJ ).I see I see. What's the average time it takes to get that far?

I knew dude once, he was playing with nunchucks (spelling?) it wasn't enough to hit himself in the head with them, he tried again and hit himself in the nuts

Almost as funny as this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC1cNLOmurQ

[balisongnet]

I see I see. What's the average time it takes to get that far?



Almost as funny as this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC1cNLOmurQ


i thought the average blackbelt age in Europe was about 24-28, but As I said it all depends on a lot of things; talent, how much free time you have, commitment, and most of all, which club your with, gradations differ from club to club, and country to country. you also have junior blackbelts ( under 18 ), I've only ever seen one of those. at a training session In the US ( im guessing texas or something ), a seven year old got a blackbelt. But thats just ridiculous of course,

Ps: funny vid :)

[Fobb]

If anyone in the Phoenix area is interested, I believe this event is open to all. Correct me if I'm mistaken:

http://www.olohe.com/2009-09-12-randy-ong-seminar.pdf

Its basically a once in a lifetime opportunity. Olohe is basically the only pure Hawaiian to teach this art to non-pure blood hawaiians, and is sent death threats regularly for this.

[LISA HAYES]

Chuck Noris got his blackbelt when he was one second old

[Fobb]

And Bruce Lee took it and made him wait til he grew chest hair

[balisongnet]

And Bruce Lee took it and made him wait til he grew chest hair

don't forget back and shoulder hair

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

If anyone in the Phoenix area is interested, I believe this event is open to all. Correct me if I'm mistaken:

http://www.olohe.com/2009-09-12-randy-ong-seminar.pdf

Its basically a once in a lifetime opportunity. Olohe is basically the only pure Hawaiian to teach this art to non-pure blood hawaiians, and is sent death threats regularly for this.

This is definitely a separate art than Kaju...a true Hawaiian native martial art, Kapu Kuʻialua; Kuialua.

Well, unfortunately I won't be in the vicinity. But you will be a better for for attending Fobb. It is great that you are being exposed to such an eclectic form of combat. Please share with us anything of possible interest if you decide to go.

OT: I should have signed on sooner....

[Fobb]

It'll be this Saturday, I'm so excited :D

I plan on taking a camera with me so I can take pictures, I'll try sharing them with you guys too if I get a chance.

[Illusions-chan]

Alright guys, I just started Judo and after my first class, I have to admit; I found it challenging.

I've been taking karate on and off since I was a child, but the longest stretch I did have was from 2003-2008. I had to quit because of work and school.

Now, I'm taking Judo. My first lesson was all about ukemi. We practiced ushiro ukemi, yoko ukemi, and zempo kaitan. My biggest issue is that I'm having a hard time getting the hang of zempo kaitan.

Any tips or suggestions?

[Fobb]

I'll admit, I have no clue what those are...we've probably done them, but of course, I'm bad with names.

But if you're anything like me when I started doing judo stuff, then the number one thing you have to keep in mind, is that practice DOES make perfect (Yeah, cliche), and the more you experience, the better you will be later. It may seem confusing now, but with time, and dedication, you'll be doing these techniques with the best of them. You have plenty of time for progression :)

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

I'll admit, I have no clue what those are...we've probably done them, but of course, I'm bad with names.

But if you're anything like me when I started doing judo stuff, then the number one thing you have to keep in mind, is that practice DOES make perfect (Yeah, cliche), and the more you experience, the better you will be later. It may seem confusing now, but with time, and dedication, you'll be doing these techniques with the best of them. You have plenty of time for progression :)
Very sound advice my friend. Allow me to make one small addendum...'practice makes better. :)
Alright guys, I just started Judo and after my first class, I have to admit; I found it challenging.

I've been taking karate on and off since I was a child, but the longest stretch I did have was from 2003-2008. I had to quit because of work and school.

Now, I'm taking Judo. My first lesson was all about ukemi. We practiced ushiro ukemi, yoko ukemi, and zempo kaitan. My biggest issue is that I'm having a hard time getting the hang of zempo kaitan.

Any tips or suggestions?
It's been sometime since I have studied Judo but since you are beginning, breakfalls would be the primary lesson before you learn any throw.

These skills you will be able to carry over in other martial arts (I say so from personal experience) as some stand up striking forms do emphasize break falls.

The forward roll (zempo kaiten) I found to be one of the easier ones. Falling on my side (yoko) was something I had to get used to and the back (ushiro) is something we all had a little fear of in the beginning I am sure. Try this for the zempo;

Get comfortable on one side first before moving onto the other.
Try this VIDEO. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rizlP_I0E6c&feature=fvw)

I used a different starting position (one knee down) and looked like I was proposing but as long as you turn your hands in, look behind you and make sure to tuck the shoulder in, you should be fine. Your hands should be a little red after practicing these breakfalls. Just saying. Good luck.

[Fobb]

Of course, we can never reach perfection, but we must strive towards it :P

[GTOSub21]

I've been doing Muai Thai for 4 years now and I love it, I'm starting judo in January :D

[Jack_Bauer]

My dad had me on Taekwondo when I was 4 and I stopped at 16. Nowadays, Martial Arts for me is just part of work. We do MCMAP (Marine Corps Martial Arts) and its rather boring because once you get to a certain level, its all about grappling and I dont like it. I only really like martial arts in movies.

[Coffee]

I've been boxing for 4 years now. Only have done amateur matches, and I plan to do some semi-pro matches in the future.

I recently started Sanshou, been doing it for 6 months now. For those of you not familiar, its Shaolin kickboxing. I hope to obtain my yellow sash in the future.

[Fobb]

My dad had me on Taekwondo when I was 4 and I stopped at 16. Nowadays, Martial Arts for me is just part of work. We do MCMAP (Marine Corps Martial Arts) and its rather boring because once you get to a certain level, its all about grappling and I dont like it. I only really like martial arts in movies.

What!?

Grappling is so fun :(