The Truth For Youth

[Melion]

Ran into this website and got curious. http://truthforyouth.com/standard/main.htm
Now they try to reach out to the youth using comics (and if you ask me, it pretty much look like manga style to me)

The points and arguments they bring up in the comics is interesting and makes sense, if everything in the Bible is TRUE!

I dont deny that it might exist a god (one form or another, dont need to be the big white guy with big white beard) but Im not sure when it comes to the different religion and bibles there is out there. If one religion is the true one, how come there is others with different views on topics, such as way of living?

Some things is just confusing for me.

oh and BATMAN! http://nsfw-comix.com/nsfw062.htm

[CrossboneGundam]

Are you eight years old or something?

[goddessofanime]

I love Fundie strips. Because they are sooooooo horribly wrong.

[KatayokuのTenshi]

Ran into this website and got curious.

Like Chick tracts except not unintentionally hilarious.

[Leader Desslock]

...Im not sure when it comes to the different religion and bibles there is out there. If one religion is the true one, how come there is others with different views on topics, such as way of living?
Well, Timmy, the reason that some people believe things other than the One True Religion is simple: Those people are Wrong.

Of course, if you ask them, they don't think they're wrong at all. Does that mean they're right? Heck, no! It just means they're both wrong and dumb. If they were smart, they'd know just how wrong they were, but then if they were smart enough to realize that, then they'd believe the One True Religion, wouldn't they?

Of course they would.

So it all comes down to there being two types of people in the world: Smart, Right People and Wrong, Dumb People.

I hope that cleared up any confusion you may have had.

[Soluzar]

The points and arguments they bring up in the comics is interesting and makes sense, if everything in the Bible is TRUE!
I only needed to read one page to see that it's the usual bigotry and hate-filled prejudice masquerading as religion that appeals to the worst elements of the Christian fundamentalist movement.

I have nothing against your typical Christian, but the fundamentalists are pretty much just filled with seething, bubbling hatred for everyone who doesn't believe what they believe. That's not the message of the book, from what I've read. If a person believes what the people who wrote these comics believe, I don't see how they can call themself Christian.

It's almost funny how severely twisted the message has become over the course of two thousand years. It's gone from being about the important things, like God, love, peace and brotherhood to being about completely unrelated socio-political issues.

[Meggles]

I read one comic, I was seething mad at first, but it was just so over the top, that I was LOLing at the end. Now I have to read the one on rock music.

[Jatz]

I only needed to read one page to see that it's the usual bigotry and hate-filled prejudice masquerading as religion that appeals to the worst elements of the Christian fundamentalist movement.

I have nothing against your typical Christian, but the fundamentalists are pretty much just filled with seething, bubbling hatred for everyone who doesn't believe what they believe. That's not the message of the book, from what I've read. If a person believes what the people who wrote these comics believe, I don't see how they can call themself Christian.

It's almost funny how severely twisted the message has become over the course of two thousand years. It's gone from being about the important things, like God, love, peace and brotherhood to being about completely unrelated socio-political issues.

In some special I saw they said people started twisting the bible to suit their needs only a few hundred years after it was written.

[Soluzar]

In some special I saw they said people started twisting the bible to suit their needs only a few hundred years after it was written.
Ya see, I like the basic message of the Christian Bible. Peace. Love. Don't be a jerk, or a criminal. Don't be evil, treat your enemies as you'd like to be treated, etc... all good stuff.

Just don't like modern Christan fundies that much.

[Jatz]

Ya see, I like the basic message of the Christian Bible. Peace. Love. Don't be a jerk, or a criminal. Don't be evil, treat your enemies as you'd like to be treated, etc... all good stuff.

Just don't like modern Christan fundies that much.

Yep, me too. I look at things now and it makes me mad (priests driving around in Cadillacs etc.)

[goddessofanime]

Like I said, I love fundies....but they're absolutely horrible people.

Regular view: Love one another

Fundie view: Love one another, as long as you're not gay, black, love rock music or not Christian. Because if you're one of these things, you are going to Hell.

[Meggles]

Ooh, I love when they said evolution was racist. :D

[GreatNekoKoneko]

... today, i celebrated zombie jesus day.

[Lacan]

I just love how the fundies love to brainwash kids into the next generation of intolerant thugs *sarcasm btw*. I just hope these kids and teens will someday wakeup and realize what they were taught was wrong. I don't want to see another prop 8 in 25 years from now.

[Chidori Raikiri]

I've been told to kill myself in order to go to hell, just to see that it existed.

And according to those comics I'm racist.

[goddessofanime]

Ooh, I love when they said evolution was racist. :D

I thought evolution was because 'WE DO NOT EVOLVE FROM MONKEYS'

[superplough]

Ooh, a religion thread eh?


If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.

The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.'

Christianity FTW

[Midoriko87]

superplough, just so you know, Christians don't really F's with Old Testament. Be mindful of the italics.

[superplough]

The old testament is the best one though!

"I have wiped out many nations, devastating their fortress walls and towers. Their cities are now deserted; their streets are in silent ruin. There are no survivors to even tell what happened. I thought, 'Surely they will have reverence for me now! Surely they will listen to my warnings, so I won't need to strike again.' But no; however much I punish them, they continue their evil practices from dawn till dusk and dusk till dawn." So now the LORD says: "Be patient; the time is coming soon when I will stand up and accuse these evil nations. For it is my decision to gather together the kingdoms of the earth and pour out my fiercest anger and fury on them. All the earth will be devoured by the fire of my jealousy. "On that day I will purify the lips of all people, so that everyone will be able to worship the LORD together. My scattered people who live beyond the rivers of Ethiopia will come to present their offerings.

God is a badass.

[Old Ape Face]

I am not a conjurer for cheap tricks!!

[Old Ape Face]

Ran into this website and got curious. http://truthforyouth.com/standard/main.htm
Now they try to reach out to the youth using comics (and if you ask me, it pretty much look like manga style to me)

The points and arguments they bring up in the comics is interesting and makes sense, if everything in the Bible is TRUE!

I dont deny that it might exist a god (one form or another, dont need to be the big white guy with big white beard) but Im not sure when it comes to the different religion and bibles there is out there. If one religion is the true one, how come there is others with different views on topics, such as way of living?

Some things is just confusing for me.

oh and BATMAN! http://nsfw-comix.com/nsfw062.htm

One question for me is, how can 3 different religions all conjure around a supreme being, and they all have holidays around the same time of the year.

[superplough]

Because it's convenient

EDIT: The verse in the tags is win

[Leader Desslock]

superplough, just so you know, Christians don't really F's with Old Testament.
Given that the whole "Young Earth" movement (upon which the Evolution comic was based) is based on Old Testament dating, the Christians who made that comic clearly draw some inspiration from the Old Testament.

In my experience, a lot of the fundamentalist Christian groups tend to hold the Old Testament as an infallible reference when it suits their current point, but tend to be just as quick to distance themselves from the parts that don't.

A lot of the same fundamentalist Christians, I've noticed, are just as quick to hold up examples of scientists who supports their argument, while simultaneously ignoring the remainder of the scientific community, the scientific method and mankind's ability to use reason.

Naturally, there are just as many people on the other side of the argument doing the same sorts of things. Ignorant people can misquote scientific papers and findings just as easily as the Old Testament.

In short, if people are hell-bent on believing something, then all the evidence and arguments to the contrary aren't going to change their minds.

One question for me is, how can 3 different religions all conjure around a supreme being, and they all have holidays around the same time of the year.
"Our version of God is right, and you're wrong."

I thought I already answered that part.

As for why they have holidays at the same time of year... well... have you bothered to look up the historical origins of the holidays in question? I could (and have) written whole papers on the origins of single holidays, so the answers you're seeking are rather complicated, for each holiday. There's no single boilerplate answer.

[Chidori Raikiri]

how can 3 different religions all conjure around a supreme being, and they all have holidays around the same time of the year.

Watch Zeitgeist and it will all make sense... It's got to do with the sun and how it moves through our sky at different times, or something.

[Old Ape Face]

And yet Buddhism centers around another supreme being "Buddha" who is the equivalent of god in eastern Asia, except Buddha demonstrates a bond between fellow people as a sence of duty and harmony.

Religions all come to one point that there is a supreme master of the cosmos, I don't really believe in such things, I believe that things happen through randomness and not purpose.

[Leader Desslock]

Religions all come to one point that there is a supreme master of the cosmos...
Not all. That's a very monotheist bias you're sporting there.

[Soluzar]

And yet Buddhism centers around another supreme being "Buddha" who is the equivalent of god in eastern Asia, except Buddha demonstrates a bond between fellow people as a sence of duty and harmony.
You've got completely the wrong idea there. Do some reading about Buddhism.

[Old Ape Face]

So what evil stuff Satan did? Besides giving people knowledge, and living in hell with a bunch of demons and hot sexy demoness like succubi, etc?

BTW I don't believe in religion, because I am an Atheist. I want proof for everything and evidence.

It's not that I'm waiting for god to exist in front of me, it's just I have no reason to follow it. My life is good enough for me to do my thing without having to think about a god to please or disturb.

On Sunday it's against the law to buy alcohol in my state becuase of blue laws, I don't even understand why we have this law except it's a religious thing.

Same with Homosexuality marriage, come on would two gay guys really ruin your straight marriage just like a white guy and black girl marry each other?

[Lacan]

I have to say this. Most of the religions people worship these days are ripped off from Paganism and Greek Mythology.

Edit: I deleted my last post, because I didn't want to offend people. And yes Blue Laws are against the US Constitution.

[Midoriko87]

In my experience, a lot of the fundamentalist Christian groups tend to hold the Old Testament as an infallible reference when it suits their current point, but tend to be just as quick to distance themselves from the parts that don't.

:mad: Yes, Captain Obvious, I believe that's what I wrote just, like, less a gazillion words.

Of course, I'm sorta kidding, Desslock...sorta. <_<

Point being, you can't come to a Chrstian with some crazy Old Testament shenanigans and be all, "THIS IS YOUR BENEVOLENT GOD?!!" 'Cause, we're all, "F's Naw, boy, that's that Jew God. Our God lets us eat whatever we want, 'cept poo and vomit." *Nods* Yea, we sometimes look back there for a nice parable or two, but all that jazz about not dating your fine a-asterisk-asterisk relatives don't apply to us. *Deep South* That's like going up to Mitt Romney and saying, "Well, Joseph Smith said you gots to be a polygamist." Get a cap in your burro! :angry:

[Old Ape Face]

When I die I know exactly where I'm going.

[superplough]

^ To the Soul Society right?

[Old Ape Face]

^ To the Soul Society right?

Yeah i'm going to be one of the high generals.

[Midoriko87]

When I die I know exactly where I'm going.

:( Sorry, Yuki, they're not going to let you into Branson. Second Life Celebrities don't count. No, the Lake of Fire awaits us. On the plus side, we'll get to see Gay Raper Duck. ^_^

[Old Ape Face]

:( Sorry, Yuki, they're not going to let you into Branson. Second Life Celebrities don't count. No, the Lake of Fire awaits us. On the plus side, we'll get to see Gay Raper Duck. ^_^


I'll be rocking with Cliff Burton and Freddie Mercury. :cool: and every other rock star that dies before me :smokin:

[Lacan]

When I die, hopefully I will come back as a robot/fembot.

[Old Ape Face]

When I die, hopefully I will come back as a robot/fembot.

I hope I come back as a chick, so I can be an official lesbian. :P

[Midoriko87]

When I die, hopefully I will come back as a robot/fembot.

You know, they have surgeries for that, now...sorta. Be mindful of the italics.

Yukimura, they're no Captain & Tennille. :P

Jebus, these similes are lame.

[Leader Desslock]

Point being, you can't come to a Chrstian with some crazy Old Testament shenanigans and be all, "THIS IS YOUR BENEVOLENT GOD?!!" 'Cause, we're all, "F's Naw, boy, that's that Jew God. Our God lets us eat whatever we want, 'cept poo and vomit."
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I think this is the first time I've ever sigged another member's post, but that's just too good to pass up.

You're looking at the 2009 Post Of The Year, right there, Ladies and Gentlemen.

[Victory]

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3280/cthulhu.jpg

[Midoriko87]

Hmm, I smell a conspiracy. People are always taking the worst of my work and praising it. What about "Gay Raper Duck"?! Alone, the words mean nothing, but together they become a "Gay Raper Duck"! Not saying there's anything wrong with a gay raper duck....

Anywayz, DESSLOCK SIGNATURE-ED SOMETHING I CONCOCTED!! :w00t: :spin:

*Composure* Ahem, not that it's a biggie for moi, of course, but you know, the fanboys will be pissed. *Nods*

Anywho, I'll leave, but the "zeus ripoff" tag? If I remember correctly from watching Xena: Warrior Princess, God, Yahweh and Allah got together and beat the Hell out of Ares and all them... or something like that... It's been so long, and I was so young, and so confused by Xena's ripped bod. :( :uhh:

[Holy Knight]

At first, I was pretty amused by the comics. But then, I was reminded people actually take this seriously.

I don't care whether there is a god or not, though that doesn't seem to matter to believers. Sure, I'll pick up The Watchtower for a good chuckle, but I'm not about to be sermoned as to how to lead my life.

You know, I wouldn't mind having Eldritch Horrors as our Gods. At least then, we'd know who they are, and we could do away with the silly fundie comics. Though I would expect to see a rise in satire at the same time ("hey man, god's own image. I always did say you kinda looked like an octopus-head", etc.).

[waltsoph3]

After looking at just two of these comics i'm like..uhm wow. Can you say propaganda.lol

I like some of the artwork..but otherwise thats as far as i go.

[goddessofanime]

This is the best thread so far...LOL.

[Justinian]

Hahaha that one on porn is hilarious!

[The Million Dollar Prons]

The reason these comics don't work is because they take a staunch good\bad view on pornography, which isn't even present in the bible itself, it's really just some agenda pushing. It also says that everyone who looks at pornography is a sleazy rapist who doesn't know how to act around women.

Now what would have been more effective is if it took a "Great power great responsibility" style story. Don't look at too much or else you're going to be paying a group of thai women 5 dollars to step on your cubes. I'm guilty.




The one about school violence is really bizarre too. Because it opens with a highly abberated individual shooting several students to death and no one cries weeps or anything, but rather it turns into a "SMUGGLING BIBLES INTO THE SCHOOOL" story.

It's also incredibly hypocritcal that the main character in that strip goes on and on about bibles not bullets, yet his message of hope apparently didn't reach the kid who killed three people with a damn hunting rifle.


Did I mention Scientology is the only religion that's not against looking at pornography? Yeahhhhhhh

Oh well it's better than "Amazon's Attack."

[Justinian]

I only needed to read one page to see that it's the usual bigotry and hate-filled prejudice masquerading as religion that appeals to the worst elements of the Christian fundamentalist movement.

I have nothing against your typical Christian, but the fundamentalists are pretty much just filled with seething, bubbling hatred for everyone who doesn't believe what they believe. That's not the message of the book, from what I've read. If a person believes what the people who wrote these comics believe, I don't see how they can call themself Christian.

It's almost funny how severely twisted the message has become over the course of two thousand years. It's gone from being about the important things, like God, love, peace and brotherhood to being about completely unrelated socio-political issues.

Very well said.

[goddessofanime]

So all you need to know:

Everything will make you go to Hell unless you accept Jesus.

[ThePhillyFlash]

So all you need to know:

Everything will make you go to Hell unless you accept Jesus.

In this crappy economy, I'd rather accept Warren Buffett or Bill Gates. :P

[Ridley-X4]

Oh boy, this could give Bibleman a run for its money.

[goddessofanime]

Jack Chick is funnier.

[l0k1]

Oh god i keep reading it right to left, i can't stop myself. Also why dont pictures auto resize for my resolution i have to hold control and wheelmouse..im not sure what my point was.

But im damn angry whatever it was.

Edit: oh now i am upset at this safe sex comic, damn fundies, with there porous condoms.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n25/loci_ash/rational.jpg

Hello watchmaker analogy

[The Million Dollar Prons]

What the hell, the drug and alcohol comic are the same.

I give a 0 for LACK OF EFFORT

[CrossboneGundam]

And yet Buddhism centers around another supreme being "Buddha" who is the equivalent of god in eastern Asia, except Buddha demonstrates a bond between fellow people as a sence of duty and harmony.

Religions all come to one point that there is a supreme master of the cosmos, I don't really believe in such things, I believe that things happen through randomness and not purpose.

Wow, not only are you completely wrong about Buddhism, you didn't spell "sense" right.

[grgspunk]

Fundies are fun to troll. It's quite hilarious to see their reactions when you drop the F-bomb on them during a silent prayer/vigil.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Wow, not only are you completely wrong about Buddhism, you didn't spell "sense" right.

It's really not a mystery why Yukimura-sanada didn't make it through asian philosophy.

[Old Ape Face]

It's really not a mystery why Yukimura-sanada didn't make it through asian philosophy.

Could you have done any better Prons? I might not be much to know about the religious concepts of Asian culture, but I do know that it involves a hell of a lot of writing and repetitive thinking in order to make it through.

I'm not saying you have to be Leader Desslock to pass that kind of class but you're aptitude in writing skills need to be up in the high levels.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Could you have done any better Prons?

I am successful at most things I try.

[Old Ape Face]

I am successful at most things I try.

Do or do not, there is no try.

[CrossboneGundam]

Could you have done any better Prons? I might not be much to know about the religious concepts of Asian culture, but I do know that it involves a hell of a lot of writing and repetitive thinking in order to make it through.

I'm not saying you have to be Leader Desslock to pass that kind of class but you're aptitude in writing skills need to be up in the high levels.

It might help to not make patently false claims about religions you clearly know nothing about. Also Prons' writing there was flawless, what kind of bizarro english do you speak?

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Do or do not, there is no try.

Oh there's trying alright. Like when people try to front as if I'm not the greatest person ever, little do they know by the time they put their front up I've already slapped their pathetic little front down and I'm on their lawn peeing on their bushes what are they going to do probably nothing because I do what I DO and the world watches in fear and terror and all the politicians and whores will look up and shout save us and i'm going to look down and say "kk."

[Old Ape Face]

It might help to not make patently false claims about religions you clearly know nothing about. Also Prons' writing there was flawless, what kind of bizarro english do you speak?

um well, one line posts are not what I would consider appropriate for a philosophy class.

How about 10 pages of double spaced research and the time management to appropriate peace what you've taken notes on into a thesis and concluding with a phrase from Chinese scriptures?

I admit I didn't take the time to study, I've fallen into the laziness category in which I just sum up bits of what I've heard through in a little of my own analogy and I have a paper.

Not going to get me to pass, but I'm aware of my weaknesses.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

um well, one line posts are not what I would consider appropriate for a philosophy class.

How about 10 pages of double spaced research and the time management to appropriate peace what you've taken notes on into a thesis and concluding with a phrase from Chinese scriptures?

I admit I didn't take the time to study, I've fallen into the laziness category in which I just sum up bits of what I've heard through in a little of my own analogy and I have a paper.

Not going to get me to pass, but I'm aware of my weaknesses.

I speak Chinese.

Tian bu pa, di bu pa, zhi pa guang dong ren shuo pu tong hua.

[Old Ape Face]

I speak Chinese.

Tian bu pa, di bu pa, zhi pa guang dong ren shuo pu tong hua.

that's it?

[The Million Dollar Prons]

that's it?

What else could you possibly want.

[Old Ape Face]

What else could you possibly want.

At least a thesis and a 10 page report on the origins of Buddhism.

If it's so easy why didn't I come to you to do the whole thing for me?

[CrossboneGundam]

um well, one line posts are not what I would consider appropriate for a philosophy class.

How about 10 pages of double spaced research and the time management to appropriate peace what you've taken notes on into a thesis and concluding with a phrase from Chinese scriptures?

I admit I didn't take the time to study, I've fallen into the laziness category in which I just sum up bits of what I've heard through in a little of my own analogy and I have a paper.

Not going to get me to pass, but I'm aware of my weaknesses.

Now you're just trying to draw attention away from the fact that you made an authoritative statement about Buddhism that was completely false.

Really, nobody thinks you're an expert on anything, there's no shining reputation for you to defend to the death here.

At least a thesis and a 10 page report on the origins of Buddhism.

If it's so easy why didn't I come to you to do the whole thing for me?

And you're too lazy to just google it so now you're demanding prons explain it to you so you can later regurgitate what he says and pretend to be an expert again.

And the reason you didn't go to him in the first place was the same reason you didn't bother to find out anything about Buddhism before representing yourself as well-versed on the subject on the internet.

[Old Ape Face]

meh, not looking for expertise I'm a diplomat, I don't have to be perfect.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

If it's so easy why didn't I come to you to do the whole thing for me?

I don't know why not, but that's the reason you don't have an asian philosophy degree. Now if only you'd have realized the Power of Prons (PoP) earlier.

[l0k1]

ITT: Someone needs to swallow their pride and admit they got something wrong

+1 internets to anyone that guesses who

[Old Ape Face]

I don't know why not, but that's the reason you don't have an asian philosophy degree. Now if only you'd have realized the Power of Prons (PoP) earlier.

I'm getting an associates in Digital Arts, not Philosophy, I took that as an elective becuase it sounded intriguing to me, but it turned out to be more work than I expected.

And yes I admit I'm wrong, but simply saying that wont get me out of this little conversation.

[CrossboneGundam]

And yes I admit I'm wrong, but simply saying that wont get me out of this little conversation.

Well, considering you did create it as well as perpetuate it... The ball, as they say, is in your court.

Or you could just STOP POSTING (I don't have the boxing gif for that.)

Also chick tracts are better than this thread's subject.

[Shiroiyuki]

I'll be rocking with Cliff Burton and Freddie Mercury. :cool: and every other rock star that dies before me :smokin:

With your karma you might be able to buy a secondhand poster of an impersonator (that curiously looks as close to the real deal as beef jerky looks to filet mignon).

:unsure:

[Old Ape Face]

With your karma you might be able to buy a secondhand poster of an impersonator (that curiously looks as close to the real deal as beef jerky looks to filet mignon).

:unsure:

Hey leave Elvis out of this :mad:

[Shiroiyuki]

Hey leave Elvis out of this :mad:

...You realize that impersonators can impersonate others besides just Elvis, right? And by some really strange, but not surprisingly, coincidence, Elvis was as far from the subject matter as you could ever hope to shoot for, right?

[Old Ape Face]

...You realize that impersonators can impersonate others besides just Elvis, right? And by some really strange, but not surprisingly, coincidence, Elvis was as far from the subject matter as you could ever hope to shoot for, right?

Of cource, but usually when people talk about musician impersonators, Elvis seems to be the first name that comes to mind.

though an impersonation of Cliff Burton would be more badass than Elvis any day.

[waltsoph3]

Hey Prons what the you think about this..

The Power of Prons compels you! The Power of Prons compels you!

I thought it would seem catchy for this thread. lol What do you think man.