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KatayokuのTenshi
January 19th, 2009, 03:46 AM
Edited title...

Assembling models that is not modeling clothes. -_-;

I couldn’t for the life of me think of anywhere to ask this (I've been thinking for a few days -_-; ), and I thought that someone here might have some experience...

I was thinking of trying to make this (http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3094/1144thgespenstcx9.jpg) model. The site that I found it on rated it as a '2' on a difficulty scale from 1-5. It would apparently require gluing but not painting.

I thought that it might be quite an easy model to sart with but then I saw this (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm3NC3MDb-o) and I can’t for the life of me think how all those bits would fit together.

So if anyone has had experience with this sort of thing: Does this look like a difficult model for a first project?

Jia
January 19th, 2009, 05:42 AM
What does it do?
Is it a paperweight or a doorstop or something?

Bernard_Monsha
January 19th, 2009, 06:10 AM
Edited title...

Assembling models that is not modeling clothes. -_-;

I couldn’t for the life of me think of anywhere to ask this (I've been thinking for a few days -_-; ), and I thought that someone here might have some experience...

I was thinking of trying to make this (http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3094/1144thgespenstcx9.jpg) model. The site that I found it on rated it as a '2' on a difficulty scale from 1-5. It would apparently require gluing but not painting.

I thought that it might be quite an easy model to sart with but then I saw this (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm3NC3MDb-o) and I can’t for the life of me think how all those bits would fit together.

So if anyone has had experience with this sort of thing: Does this look like a difficult model for a first project?


No, most of the mecha models are simple until you get into the 250-300 dollar ones.

Meggles
January 19th, 2009, 06:42 AM
I've never assembled anime themed models, but I've assembled cars that start out in pieces the same way as the model in the video you linked to. Usually models come with directions and each part is numbered or lettered. If you're importing it from Japan, the directions most likely won't be in English and it'll be considerably harder (if you can't read Japanese).

Holy Knight
January 19th, 2009, 06:48 AM
^ This.

I suggest you practice with other models before doing one you want to keep. Correctly applying the right amount of glue and making sure it doesn't dry on any of the visible surfaces takes a bit of practice. It isn't anything difficult, you just have to be careful.

The Million Dollar Prons
January 19th, 2009, 07:09 AM
They can be a little challenging, but not especially if you pay attention to the instructions.

Models will come with a bunch of part trees, usually the first will be like A, the second will be B, and they will each have numbered parts.

If you follow the pictures EXACTLY (which is a little hard for prons because you know how he is), it won't be too hard.

I suggest getting one of those 5 dollar "no grade" kits. They look like **** when they're completed, but if you screw them up it wont matter


P.S. I've never modeled an english model, I just followed the pictures and read some guides on the intenret to get started. All you have to do is use a toenail clipper to clip the pieces out of the parts tree, and then snap 'em togehter and you're good to go. Some of the older models require painting and gluing, but most of the ones you'd probably want to make won't

Ken-Ohki
January 19th, 2009, 08:15 AM
I have a couple anime models, an eva and a valkyrie fighter both were simple and straightforward though the eva has fallen apart over the years. I used to make models with my brother when we were young, planes boats and things. Painting is one of the more detail oriented aspects of model making, without that it's even more simple.

KatayokuのTenshi
January 19th, 2009, 06:26 PM
No, most of the mecha models are simple until you get into the 250-300 dollar ones.

Like the Perfect Change Cybaster (http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o173/KatayokunoTenshi_01/PCCybuster.jpg)? A, somehow, transformable model that will set you back at least $600 if you felt the need to own it. :lol:

^ This.

I suggest you practice with other models before doing one you want to keep. Correctly applying the right amount of glue and making sure it doesn't dry on any of the visible surfaces takes a bit of practice. It isn't anything difficult, you just have to be careful.

I'd need to go to a model shop or something to get this plastic glue stuff... maybe they'd have something cheep there that I could practice on...

P.S. I've never modeled an english model, I just followed the pictures and read some guides on the intenret to get started. All you have to do is use a toenail clipper to clip the pieces out of the parts tree, and then snap 'em togehter and you're good to go. Some of the older models require painting and gluing, but most of the ones you'd probably want to make won't

Well if I've mastered IKEA furniture... :P

Toenail clippers? Really?

Painting is one of the more detail oriented aspects of model making, without that it's even more simple.

I've never really painted anything smaller than a wall before but I was thinking that if I ever needed to I could use masking tape to control where the paint goes.



Well, you’ll never guess what I bought in July, expected to be delivered in August and forgot about until I got home and found it delivered today: 1:144 Rein Weißritter (http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o173/KatayokunoTenshi_01/rews.jpg). Which if anything looks even harder. But after I took a look at the instructions it seems fairly simple, there isn’t even very much writing, all the steps are really simple (until the last one which is "put it all together" -_-; ).

They kind of remind me of the instructions to the lego kits I used to have… except with more cutting and glue.

I picked it up dirt cheap form the website of a domestic retailer… and if I can manage this then I can probably manage the Gespenst.

That was the weirdest impulse purchase ever...

old hat
January 19th, 2009, 07:19 PM
I've never assembled anime themed models, but I've assembled cars that start out in pieces the same way as the model in the video you linked to. Usually models come with directions and each part is numbered or lettered. If you're importing it from Japan, the directions most likely won't be in English and it'll be considerably harder (if you can't read Japanese).

I've never had a problem putting together imported models and I don't read Japanese. There are little pictures and arrows telling you what to do. It's not terribly complicated.

In some cases, those instructions were clearer and easier to follow than the ones that come with games Workshop models and Games Workshop is a British company that ships everything with English instructions.

superplough
January 19th, 2009, 07:36 PM
This is kind of similar... I ordered a Masterpiece Megatron Transformer from Japan. It transforms from a robot into an oversized Walther P38, via a ridiculously complicated transformation. The instructions were in Japanese, but the little pictures helped me figure it out and I managed to transform him without breaking him. :D

KabukiSaMuRaI
January 19th, 2009, 08:34 PM
What does it do?
Is it a paperweight or a doorstop or something?

I know what you were thinking when you clicked the link. :)

Old Ape Face
January 19th, 2009, 09:49 PM
I know what you were thinking when you clicked the link. :)

Oh yeah!!

I was thinking "Tits or GTFO." too

Hey models are cool, I use to build them a lot when I was younger, I built a scale model version of the Saturn rocket, (the thing that went to the moon) it was cool too cause you could take it apart to look at the different stages.

the key with models is to have a lot of patients, and a set of tweezers if you're gluing really tiny pieces together. (I use to build cars too, such a pain with all the tiny pieces for the engines.)

KabukiSaMuRaI
January 19th, 2009, 11:38 PM
Oh yeah!!

I was thinking "Tits or GTFO." too



Well, not exactly. I'm sure Jia knows what I mean. KatayokuのTenshi's edit was very appropriate as the original thread title was most likely interpreted as something else.

Funny guy you are though, Yukimura. At least you've got something to focus your OCD on, right? :P

Old Ape Face
January 19th, 2009, 11:40 PM
Well, not exactly. I'm sure Jia knows what I mean. KatayokuのTenshi's edit was very appropriate as the original thread title was most likely interpreted as something else.

Funny guy you are though, Yukimura. At least you've got something to focus your OCD on, right? :P

Hey I'm good with my hands, I think that could get me somewhere in life :P

KabukiSaMuRaI
January 19th, 2009, 11:48 PM
Hey I'm good with my hands, I think that could get me somewhere in life :P

Stick to models (toys). The 'tits' may get you into a bit of trouble down the line. :naughty:

I had Gundam model that I bought years ago as a souvenir. I think that my attempt was unsuccessful. I'm more into destroying things with my hands...unfortunately. Although, I am blessed with patience and more tolerance than the average person.

Old Ape Face
January 19th, 2009, 11:53 PM
Oh of cource, models are always good to play with, :P I'll save the tits for a rainier day.

Jia
January 20th, 2009, 04:14 AM
I know what you were thinking when you clicked the link. :)

Lol what was I thinking XD

Oh yeah!!
I was thinking "Tits or GTFO." too

:( Poor Yuki forgets that Jia is a girl and has a pair of her own.

Well, not exactly. I'm sure Jia knows what I mean. KatayokuのTenshi's edit was very appropriate as the original thread title was most likely interpreted as something else.

Funny guy you are though, Yukimura. At least you've got something to focus your OCD on, right? :P

Like tits :P (Just kidding Yuki)

Old Ape Face
January 20th, 2009, 08:07 AM
:( Poor Yuki forgets that Jia is a girl and has a pair of her own.


Uh look at my avatar :P yeah I like lesbians.

KabukiSaMuRaI
January 20th, 2009, 08:16 AM
Lol what was I thinking XD
I'll PM you. :naughty:

:( Poor Yuki forgets that Jia is a girl and has a pair of her own.
Yeah but maybe you have 'man hands.' :P
Jia seems to have a venomous tongue. Where's the caution tape? :)

Like tits :P (Just kidding Yuki)
In all honesty, I think that's what I had in mind when I posted for Yukimura. It's a good thing he has a sense of humor about such things.

Old Ape Face
January 20th, 2009, 08:21 AM
OK....... Back on topic

this thread makes me want to go buy a model.

ZeroRyoko1974
January 20th, 2009, 08:28 AM
In abscence of toenail clippers, wire cutters work good. I attended a workshop once on modeling, and it was about sanding and gluing and everything. I never really got past the sanding after gluing part. I always stuck with the simple gundam models that were readily available from Toys R Us. I always dreamed of buying a perfect grade wingzero custom, but I could never bring myself to spend 200 plus dollars for a model

KabukiSaMuRaI
January 20th, 2009, 09:13 AM
In abscence of toenail clippers, wire cutters work good. I attended a workshop once on modeling, and it was about sanding and gluing and everything. I never really got past the sanding after gluing part. I always stuck with the simple gundam models that were readily available from Toys R Us. I always dreamed of buying a perfect grade wingzero custom, but I could never bring myself to spend 200 plus dollars for a model

I guess you would really need a passion for models to go that far. I've spent more on anime at one shot but don't see myself shelling out for a model.

@Yukimura: It's all good. What model were you thinking of getting, now that we are back on topic?

Old Ape Face
January 20th, 2009, 09:34 AM
I guess you would really need a passion for models to go that far. I've spent more on anime at one shot but don't see myself shelling out for a model.

@Yukimura: It's all good. What model were you thinking of getting, now that we are back on topic?

I dono, that's how I shop though.

old hat
January 20th, 2009, 04:13 PM
I just use a pair like this I bought for clipping pieces of GW plastic models off sprues.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat190011&rootCatGameStyle=paints-tools
2nd down from the left

The Citadel brand is over priced though. I got one at a hardware store for that half that much.

Jia
January 20th, 2009, 07:05 PM
Uh look at my avatar :P yeah I like lesbians.

I've seen models of those. *Shudder*


[B][COLOR="Blue"]Yeah but maybe you have 'man hands.' :P
Jia seems to have a venomous tongue. Where's the caution tape? :)
XD I do not!

In all honesty, I think that's what I had in mind when I posted for Yukimura. It's a good thing he has a sense of humor about such things.

He is he is. ^_^

MirKz
January 21st, 2009, 02:13 PM
Watch out for the glue... it smells, sticks to everything and can ruin the look of the model.
failed at that many times :P

As for actual modelling.
I found it a bit boring. Some of the women are quite attractive, but they can be *****y and not really a lot going on upstairs (as in brain).
You stand around a lot and get told to move your head this way or that lol
tried it for a couple months... not my thing.

Old Ape Face
January 21st, 2009, 02:26 PM
Watch out for the glue... it smells, sticks to everything and can ruin the look of the model.
failed at that many times :P

wow this thread is full of innuendos...

CrossboneGundam
January 21st, 2009, 03:23 PM
Edited title...

Assembling models that is not modeling clothes. -_-;

I couldn’t for the life of me think of anywhere to ask this (I've been thinking for a few days -_-; ), and I thought that someone here might have some experience...

I was thinking of trying to make this (http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3094/1144thgespenstcx9.jpg) model. The site that I found it on rated it as a '2' on a difficulty scale from 1-5. It would apparently require gluing but not painting.

I thought that it might be quite an easy model to sart with but then I saw this (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm3NC3MDb-o) and I can’t for the life of me think how all those bits would fit together.

So if anyone has had experience with this sort of thing: Does this look like a difficult model for a first project?

One star rating for that "video" not having Time to Come as the BGM.

Also that kind of model does not require any glue.

KabukiSaMuRaI
January 21st, 2009, 08:56 PM
I dono, that's how I shop though.
It was before I re-evaluated my expenses. That is a thing of the past.
wow this thread is full of innuendos...
You would be true to your nickname...as subtle as such innuendos may be. :)
I've seen models of those. *Shudder*
You've been through alot. :P

Old Ape Face
January 21st, 2009, 09:01 PM
It was before I re-evaluated my expenses. That is a thing of the past.

You would be true to your nickname...as subtle as such innuendos may be. :)

if it's anything i can't afford I forget about shopping.

KatayokuのTenshi
January 23rd, 2009, 03:45 AM
What does it do?
Is it a paperweight or a doorstop or something?

What does it do? It kicks *** and takes names! (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8FBYA4P7NDw&feature=related) (well that’s the Gespenst S but they look the same :uhh: )

In abscence of toenail clippers, wire cutters work good.

Oddly I've found that most of the pieces are all too eager to fall out, more or less, unassisted.

Watch out for the glue... it smells, sticks to everything and can ruin the look of the model.
failed at that many times :P

The glue I got seems to dry clear but I'm amazed at the amount of dust and dirt that can settle on it in the meantime...


Also that kind of model does not require any glue.

Yeah, I've found that out now. I was impressed at how well the pieces fit together.

I've started making the Weißritter and so far I've made the arms. There were a couple of tricky moments once when I broke off a delicate piece and needed to glue it back on before I could continue and once more when I the instructions suggested I had to cut... something and after messing around and breaking another piece I shoved all the bits together and poured glue on it until it gave up. I need to be more patient, but luckily there both in places that wont be visible when it's finished.

Nakey
January 23rd, 2009, 04:05 AM
Most of the Gundam/Macross/SRW/Keroro models seem to be pretty easy. of the ones i've seen. they're glueless and wouldn't take too long a time. you could take longer if you had glue and wanted to paint it properly, but for speed builds and/or if you're not fussed over the build quality you could do it quickly. A friend built a Bandai Tama-chan model in about an hour, in between shots of Team Fortress II

Tamiya/Revell/Airfix/Fujimi ones, that do need the glue, are a *****. for really really good ones, it's not worth it unless you decal and paint it. and brush paint is so slow and tedious, you'd be better off airbrushing. They don't really do much anime work, save for Aoshima's Initial D sets and Fujimi's small batch of Initial D, Wangan Midnight, You're Under Arrest and OverDrive models. the 1/24 Scale car world's nice in that there's so many accessories available. That being said, the kits i wanted ...


Initial D's Bunta's GC8
Wangan Midnight's Reina's R32
eX-Driver's Soichro's Super Seven JPE (and it's R500 Superlight cousin that ranks 5th on the Top Gear Power Board)
The Hot Version Touge Monsters Amuse S2000 + MCR R34
MY 3 825HP WMMT3DX cars: A blue R34 GT-R Nur + 3D GT wing + Rays CE28N and A silver S15 + Bonnet Vent + 3D GT wing + TE37s, and a Hiace...


... either are expensive down here, hard to find and/or out of stock in japan, expensive to import, don't exist either as a complete kit or addons to a kit, or are discontinued.

I'm not even going to touch Resin models. if you're a beginner, don't even think about it. A friend of mine still hasn't touched his Haruhi model. you're better off getting one pre-made.

As for Fashion Modelling, i'd rather be behind the camera than in front of it. Especially if it's cosplay. Since that's what i do, Cosplay Photography.