View Full Version : Vegan, vegaterian or omnivore?
taily
December 29th, 2008, 10:17 AM
Which one are you?
And yes I know we are all techniqly omnivores but you know what I mean smartass.
Chidori Raikiri
December 29th, 2008, 10:35 AM
I'm a Omnivore. I think everyone should be an Onmivore.
Animals eat other animals all the time. It's the food chain, and we're in it. Damned vegetarians always trying to defy nature...
ryushe
December 29th, 2008, 10:47 AM
Vegan's are disgusting
Soluzar
December 29th, 2008, 10:51 AM
Damned vegetarians always trying to defy nature...
Ahh! It started already! Don't accept any medical treatment, because you wouldn't want to defy nature, or anything. Personally I'm a vegetarian because meat... just doesn't appeal to me. If it did, I'd eat it. I couldn't be a vegan even if I wanted to. Milk and cheese are essential for me, they make up a huge portion of my diet. I think everyone should eat what they want to eat. Like eating meat? Go for it. Prefer vegetables, soy, that kind of thing? Go with that.
Vegan's are disgusting
I will never understand why people get such powerful distaste for simple dietary choices. How far does it go exactly? Do you get all wound up about people who like a different brand of soda? :P
Holy Knight
December 29th, 2008, 10:59 AM
Vegetarian here, mostly through parental influence. Meat carries some essential nutrients, though it has its own disadvantages. I'm fine with substitutes and a balanced meal, while still eating eggs and fish.
A vegan diet, on the other hand, is pure foolishness. A vegetarian diet works in this day and age because of the massive diversity we now have in our food supply. Vegans are simply stunting themselves for their ideologies.
ryushe
December 29th, 2008, 11:05 AM
I will never understand why people get such powerful distaste for simple dietary choices. How far does it go exactly? Do you get all wound up about people who like a different brand of soda? :P
Yes, because anyone who hates Dr. pepper is Hitler reborn. :P
Seriously thou, I was more or less joking about Vegan's being disgusting. Veggie's I gots not qualms with. I actually have a friend that can't eat meats due to an ailment (Not sure what it is, but meat makes her really sick), but I just can't fathom the idea of not wanting ANYTHING from an animal, other than some new hip thing hipsters wanting to do to be cool and trendy.
taily
December 29th, 2008, 11:22 AM
Taily is hip and trendy enough without beng vegan.
Bernard_Monsha
December 29th, 2008, 11:26 AM
Vegan's are disgusting
Yes
I will never understand why people get such powerful distaste for simple dietary choices. How far does it go exactly? Do you get all wound up about people who like a different brand of soda? :P
2 reasons
1. Eye watering frequent flatulence. Extra cellulose + high sulfide foods = uncomfortable conversations about hygene.
2. Unatural, unwholesome, abominations like tofu pepperoni/jerky/turkey/mutant fungus faux chicken patties.
Broand
December 29th, 2008, 11:32 AM
I'm none of those, I'm a fruitarian. I eat only fruit so nothing has to die.
taily
December 29th, 2008, 11:41 AM
^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruitarianism
It's so sad :(
Bernard_Monsha
December 29th, 2008, 11:42 AM
I'm none of those, I'm a fruitarian. I eat only fruit so nothing has to die.
But your still eating the plants no-no's and their unborn sprouts. Why would you want to eat Green Giant's nephew?
Magami No ER
December 29th, 2008, 11:49 AM
2^Nothing? You killed the unborn (albeit dormant) seeds of defenseless plant ovaries! XO
Oh the humanity....<Damn you Bernard for being faster than I...>
On to myself, I'm technically an omnivore, but I don't eat pork (save for bacon) and try to limit my red meat intake.
Buffalo meat however, is 10X better than regular beef, definitely but a rare treat though.
I don't mind what other people eat, although if I associate with them, I am tempted to warn that an imbalance between nutrients does reflect in their personality. Hopefully the vegan girl I'm friends with takes enough supplements to keep herself healthy (and to stave off atrophy of the brain matter) and the other friend of mine who refuses nearly all fruits and vegetables doesn't have extreme digestive problems, among other issues.
Both tend to have extroverted personalities in the first place, but I may just be drawing parallels where none exist. >>;
Soluzar
December 29th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Seriously thou, I was more or less joking about Vegan's being disgusting. Veggie's I gots not qualms with. I actually have a friend that can't eat meats due to an ailment (Not sure what it is, but meat makes her really sick), but I just can't fathom the idea of not wanting ANYTHING from an animal, other than some new hip thing hipsters wanting to do to be cool and trendy..
It's cool, I didn't take it that seriously myself, hence the soda comment. I did eat meat for years, but then I went through a phase where it was making me feel sick, so I explored other alternatives. Kinda stuck with 'em. Probably it was a transitory thing, but I've never felt the urge to try meat again. I really enjoy the things I've been eating for the last several years.
If I'm being honest I can't grasp the concept of not liking dairy products myself. I can't think of a single day in my life that ever passed without me eating dairy.
Midoriko87
December 29th, 2008, 12:45 PM
Plants want you to eat their fruits, that's why they taste and/or smell so suspicious.
Anywho, if it moves, I'll eat it. So not cool, 'cause I actually somewhat liked my former neighbours. :(
Rurouni Saiyan
December 29th, 2008, 12:50 PM
I am a carnivore. Gimme steak any day of the week :)
taily
December 29th, 2008, 12:54 PM
Carnivores are as dumb as Fruitarians.
max payne
December 29th, 2008, 12:54 PM
I'm an omnivore but I feel guilty when I do eat meat, which is hardly ever.
My mom's a vegan though.
Doesn't bother me what people eat although some omnovores piss me off for roaring and beating their chests about how manly they are and some vegans piss me off for being stupid enough to believe that by being vegan they can eat whatever **** they want and still stay healthy.
SlackerDude
December 29th, 2008, 01:10 PM
^I don't care what people say, guys who eat meat are genetically manlier than vegetarians or vegans ... or tutyfruitytarians and whatnot.
I'm not implying not being manly is a flaw, but since you said what you sayd, I had to step in...
max payne
December 29th, 2008, 01:21 PM
Proof is...?
Leader Desslock
December 29th, 2008, 01:22 PM
Anywho, if it moves, I'll eat it. So not cool, 'cause I actually somewhat liked my former neighbours. :(
:lol:
I'm a happy omnivore who eats very little meat. I feel better physically when I eat less meat. I occasionally stop eating meat, out of boredom as much as anything else. I never intend to give up meat altogether, 'cause pigs is tasty.
I've cooked for a lot of people with dietary restrictions (salt, wheat, dairy, meat, eggs, etc.), and it's usually kind of fun. I like a challenge.
Vaikyuko
December 29th, 2008, 01:23 PM
I'm omnivorous. Vegetarians are fine either by choice or medical condition, as they still generally consume animals or by products thereof. Vegans, on the other hand, are acceptable only due to medical problems. Being vegan by choice makes no real sense to me based on biological standards.
Plus, meat tastes good.
Rurouni Saiyan
December 29th, 2008, 01:23 PM
Carnivores are as dumb as Fruitarians.
Tell that to barbarians that could gut you with their bare hands :)
But in all seriousness, I'm omnivore with more leaning towards meat. Good to have veggies, but meat is sweet.
Bernard_Monsha
December 29th, 2008, 01:44 PM
Anyone who would choose Vegan with this in front of them is rejecting God's love for them.
http://www.pbase.com/image/107573830.jpg
superplough
December 29th, 2008, 02:03 PM
Barnard is right, how can any of you veggies deny the godliness of BACON?
I cant stand vegetables, if it was up to me I'd never eat the damn things. Meat FTW.
Edit: hahah I just noticed you're using Internet Explorer, FAIL
max payne
December 29th, 2008, 02:07 PM
That's the most disgusting bacon I've ever seen.
Get out of my office.
Tidusauron12
December 29th, 2008, 02:18 PM
I eat FOOD.
SlackerDude
December 29th, 2008, 02:38 PM
Proof is...?
Eating meat increases testosterone.
edit: Which makes me realize I was wrong when I said "genetically manlier", so I guess I should take it back and replace it with "biologically manlier".
Bernard_Monsha
December 29th, 2008, 02:48 PM
Eating meat increases testosterone.
edit: Which makes me realize I was wrong when I said "genetically manlier", so I guess I should take it back and replace it with "biologically manlier".
There is a reason why one group of Austrolopithicines were a dead end and the others kept evolving. Meat was the catalyst that led to modern man.
animeotaku99
December 29th, 2008, 03:04 PM
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet.
Carrot Juice is Murder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmK0bZl4ILM)
I can't stand most Vegans. I've seen too many people get attacked, physically because they eat animals.
The ELF, Earth Liberation Front and ALF, Animal Liberation Front are considered Domestic Terrorist organizations. And I am personally pushing for the listing of Sea Shepherd as a terrorist organization (They are currently attacking Japanese whalers with acid)
kenshinbebop
December 29th, 2008, 03:07 PM
Meatitarian.
max payne
December 29th, 2008, 03:20 PM
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet.
Carrot Juice is Murder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmK0bZl4ILM)
I can't stand most Vegans. I've seen too many people get attacked, physically because they eat animals.
The ELF, Earth Liberation Front and ALF, Animal Liberation Front are considered Domestic Terrorist organizations. And I am personally pushing for the listing of Sea Shepherd as a terrorist organization (They are currently attacking Japanese whalers with acid)
Urgh...
They don't attack people for eating meat, they attack people for being cruel to animals.
I don't approve of it but I still think some of the stuff the labs do is completely batshit bonkers.
And that's a ****ing sweeping generalization, isn't it? Not all vegans are like that.
A lack of meat doesn't turn you into a twat. If you're a twat, you're a twat no matter what you eat.
ryushe
December 29th, 2008, 03:31 PM
I'm not even joking when I say that I never knew there was a such thing as a fruitarian...
The world we live in.
A lack of meat doesn't turn you into a twat. If you're a twat, you're a twat no matter what you eat.
Especially if it's actually a twat.
animeotaku99
December 29th, 2008, 03:58 PM
Urgh...
They don't attack people for eating meat, they attack people for being cruel to animals.
I don't approve of it but I still think some of the stuff the labs do is completely batshit bonkers.
And that's a ****ing sweeping generalization, isn't it? Not all vegans are like that.
A lack of meat doesn't turn you into a twat. If you're a twat, you're a twat no matter what you eat.
Well one lab said that it would accept Animal Rights activists/terrorists as test subjects. I media person from, PETA I believe said something along the lines of. "Thats ridiculuous what do they think we are? Animals?"
Bernard_Monsha
December 29th, 2008, 03:59 PM
Urgh...
They don't attack people for eating meat, they attack people for being cruel to animals.
I don't approve of it but I still think some of the stuff the labs do is completely batshit bonkers.
Yes, we should let the protestors volunteer for medical experiments instead of burning down sub divisions, wrecking labs, or screaming at people for eating KFC. Then we still have our old friends the Sea Kittens (http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/).
And that's a ****ing sweeping generalization, isn't it? Not all vegans are like that.
Veganism by definition is a vacuous attempt at intellectual superiority through culinary means. The only probelm being that Vegan products and cooking taste like **** compared to actual products that use animal protein and fat.
A lack of meat doesn't turn you into a twat. If you're a twat, you're a twat no matter what you eat.
Is this a very long double entendre?
I'm not even joking when I say that I never knew there was a such thing as a fruitarian...
The world we live in.
Be a revolutionary join the Baconistas!
tofuman
December 29th, 2008, 04:10 PM
I'm an Omnivore. I don't mind vegans or vegetarians. But the hard core ones that think its immoral or cruel to eat meat piss me off. I'm pointing at you PETA.
ryushe
December 29th, 2008, 04:13 PM
Be a revolutionary join the Baconistas!
Sorry no can do. I'm happily already a member of the popeyebiscuittarians.
max payne
December 29th, 2008, 04:29 PM
First of all, PETA are ****ing retarded and they never actually do anything. ALF might use Sleuth Diplomacy but PETA just sit there doing bugger all. Probably because they're so stuffed with white guilt they can barely move.
Ninth of all, there can be no nobler death than being conveted into raw SCIENCE. I approve.
Twelth of all, Veganism by definition is not a vacuous attempt at intellectual superiority. Some people just don't like meat, same way some people don't like veggies.
Also, you can be vegan with out eating the "vegan" products. Besides, most of the meat subsitiutes and the like have milk in the anyway, meaning they're off limits to vegans.
And yes, they are totally disgusting.
I do admit some folks are vegan on purpose just so that they can be different. They also tend to be overflowing with white guilt and, like PETA, those guys are idiots and are a waste of oxygen and skin.
Midoriko87
December 29th, 2008, 05:49 PM
White Guilt? So, what you're saying is that PETA and other such organizations want to help animals, because some Caucasians were "picking on" Minorities? The Hell? They watch a Goodall doc. and were all, "Meh, close enough." :angry: Thank you, max payne, you've opened my eyes. See if I ever support an animal welfare agency, again...pricks!
And, you're also right about the skin part. Instead of eating pigs' skin, we could be eating theirs! Don't think it'd hold up as a coat, though. Still, I suppose it could serve as some kinda impractical fashion statement. :smokin:
GreatNekoKoneko
December 29th, 2008, 06:16 PM
...i belong to the Order or Lechon, a higher group like that of the Baconistas.http://www.pinoytravelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/lechon_quezon_city.jpg
Have SOME. come get some.
Rain
December 29th, 2008, 06:26 PM
First of all, PETA are ****ing retarded and they never actually do anything. ALF might use Sleuth Diplomacy but PETA just sit there doing bugger all. Probably because they're so stuffed with white guilt they can barely move.
Ninth of all, there can be no nobler death than being conveted into raw SCIENCE. I approve.
Twelth of all, Veganism by definition is not a vacuous attempt at intellectual superiority. Some people just don't like meat, same way some people don't like veggies.
Also, you can be vegan with out eating the "vegan" products. Besides, most of the meat subsitiutes and the like have milk in the anyway, meaning they're off limits to vegans.
And yes, they are totally disgusting.
I do admit some folks are vegan on purpose just so that they can be different. They also tend to be overflowing with white guilt and, like PETA, those guys are idiots and are a waste of oxygen and skin.
Please stop talking or I'll be forced to eat you. OM NOM NOM NOM. (Eww, disgusting.)
I'm an omnivore but I dislike red meat. I'm perfectly fine with chicken, however, and bacon-wrapped scallops (thanks to Bernard).
Bernard_Monsha
December 29th, 2008, 06:46 PM
...i belong to the Order or Lechon, a higher group like that of the Baconistas.http://www.pinoytravelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/lechon_quezon_city.jpg
Have SOME. come get some.
We scoff your oppressive yet delicious bourgeois pork organization and vow to cover all of your counter revolutionary lechon with a lattice of sweet sweet bacon. The day will come when Pinoys will eat lechon stuffed and covered in bacon (http://bacolicio.us/http://whatsonphilippines.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/lechon.jpg)with good honest bacon beer (http://www.baconunwrapped.com/2007/10/oktoberfest-bacon-bier.html) and flagons full of the peoples bacon vodka (http://www.browniepointsblog.com/2008/01/20/homemade-bacon-vodka/)!
Spadesy
December 29th, 2008, 07:23 PM
^ Best. Revolution. Ever.
Edit: I am saddened by the lack of "carnivore" option.
ryushe
December 29th, 2008, 07:26 PM
We scoff your oppressive yet delicious bourgeois pork organization and vow to cover all of your counter revolutionary lechon with a lattice of sweet sweet bacon. The day will come when Pinoys will eat lechon stuffed and covered in bacon (http://bacolicio.us/http://whatsonphilippines.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/lechon.jpg)with good honest bacon beer (http://www.baconunwrapped.com/2007/10/oktoberfest-bacon-bier.html) and flagons full of the peoples bacon vodka (http://www.browniepointsblog.com/2008/01/20/homemade-bacon-vodka/)!
Hmm, I think you might sway me to the Baconistas after all.
GreatNekoKoneko
December 29th, 2008, 07:45 PM
^ Best. Revolution. Ever.
Edit: I am saddened by the lack of "carnivore" option.
... don't just talk about it. JOIN US.
sailornyanko
December 29th, 2008, 07:59 PM
Omnivore. Unlike many people, I personally wouldn't mind killing my own meat. Someday when I have my own place I'm thinking of having a chicken pen so that I can kill 'em and eat 'em whenever I feel like knowing that at least they didn't live in dire living conditions mass produced chickens are subject to that nobody gives a crap anymore. I'd like to even get a hunting liscense to hunt for ducks or other wild game. Yummy.
I sometimes eat veggie/fruity only meals, but it's far and in between. I feel like if I don't eat meat in a dinner, I didn't really have dinner.
GreatNekoKoneko
December 29th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Omnivore. Unlike many people, I personally wouldn't mind killing my own meat. Someday when I have my own place I'm thinking of having a chicken pen so that I can kill 'em and eat 'em whenever I feel like knowing that at least they didn't live in dire living conditions mass produced chickens are subject to that nobody gives a crap anymore. I'd like to even get a hunting liscense to hunt for ducks or other wild game. Yummy.
I sometimes eat veggie/fruity only meals, but it's far and in between. I feel like if I don't eat meat in a dinner, I didn't really have dinner.
... we all know that you secretly adore Chicharones.
DazzleKitty
December 29th, 2008, 08:13 PM
I sometimes eat veggie/fruity only meals, but it's far and in between. I feel like if I don't eat meat in a dinner, I didn't really have dinner.
Haha, I feel the exact same way.
Total omnivore here. I don't mind vegans as long as they aren't insane about it and don't condemn those who are different. I despise PETA.
sailornyanko
December 29th, 2008, 08:13 PM
... we all know that you secretly adore Chicharones.
Yeah, the ones made out of pig skin. Extra points if it has hairs on them!!! :w00t:
Caster13
December 29th, 2008, 08:24 PM
Every time you cut into a steak a hippie's hacky sack falls down the sewer drain.
And I actually just made myself two burgers before.
GreatNekoKoneko
December 29th, 2008, 08:26 PM
Yeah, the ones made out of pig skin. Extra points if it has hairs on them!!! :w00t:
... exactly. nothing sexier than a woman who loves her pig skins.
Bernard_Monsha
December 29th, 2008, 08:39 PM
Omnivore. Unlike many people, I personally wouldn't mind killing my own meat. Someday when I have my own place I'm thinking of having a chicken pen so that I can kill 'em and eat 'em whenever I feel like knowing that at least they didn't live in dire living conditions mass produced chickens are subject to that nobody gives a crap anymore. I'd like to even get a hunting liscense to hunt for ducks or other wild game. Yummy.
I sometimes eat veggie/fruity only meals, but it's far and in between. I feel like if I don't eat meat in a dinner, I didn't really have dinner.
Be like me and get 18 stitches hunting wild boar with an atlatl. Only then can you truely appreciate chicharrónes.
sailornyanko
December 29th, 2008, 08:45 PM
Hahaha, I weigh like 100 pounds. Unless I learn a martial art like judo, I doubt I'll be able to defeat an animal that weighs twice my weight.
Bernard_Monsha
December 29th, 2008, 09:10 PM
Hahaha, I weigh like 100 pounds. Unless I learn a martial art like judo, I doubt I'll be able to defeat an animal that weighs twice my weight.
Mine was 367 pounds, you have it in you being born in Viking land and living in land of the Mexia. Take up bow hunting at least, it is a very different experience, much more primal.
Leader Desslock
December 29th, 2008, 09:24 PM
Be like me and get 18 stitches hunting wild boar with an atlatl.
I've hunted for moose. I wouldn't mind hunting for moose with an atlatl, because the most likely outcome would be that I'd miss and make some noise, at which point the moose would walk away in total disinterest. Even if I take the worst case "piss off a moose in rut" scenario, the worst that would happen is that the moose would lower its rack and plow a swath of destruction in my direction. Devastating, but dodgeable.
If I had to come up with a list of weapons with which to hunt wild boars, the atlatl would be just about dead last, just after the NERF Missile Storm, the "pointed stick" and an unripe banana.
Wild boars don't walk away in disinterest. Attacking them, even if you miss, is a Porcine Declaration Of War, at which point they turn into Enraged Tusken Torpedoes and proceed to [colorful idiomatic expression deleted]. They're made of some kind of Elemental Evil, I swear.
GreatNekoKoneko
December 29th, 2008, 09:29 PM
... the "pointed stick" and an unripe banana.
...i think we talked about that last week. that, and mangoes in syrup.
"What if he's got a bunch?"
Stelok
December 29th, 2008, 10:40 PM
I'm a Omnivore, and I don't mind Vegans/Veggies.
RecentMidget
December 30th, 2008, 01:00 AM
(to rythym of the beer song)
CARNIVORE, CARNIVORE, CARNIVORE, IS US, CARNIVORE, CARNIVORE, CARNIVORE, LETS GO EAT SOME MEAT!
Caster13
December 30th, 2008, 11:06 AM
I bet if you force fed a vegetarian/vegan the right meat, they'd change their way of thinking.
Humans are made to eat BOTH veggies and meat. They're defying their very nature!!
Broand
December 30th, 2008, 12:13 PM
But the seeds won't die because they are built to survive trips through the body. And fruit was made so it can be eaten.
Except lemons, I just don't know what's up with them.
taily
December 30th, 2008, 12:59 PM
Lemons are godamn lush.
Old Ape Face
December 30th, 2008, 01:16 PM
I've hunted for moose. I wouldn't mind hunting for moose with an atlatl, because the most likely outcome would be that I'd miss and make some noise, at which point the moose would walk away in total disinterest. Even if I take the worst case "piss off a moose in rut" scenario, the worst that would happen is that the moose would lower its rack and plow a swath of destruction in my direction. Devastating, but dodgeable.
If I had to come up with a list of weapons with which to hunt wild boars, the atlatl would be just about dead last, just after the NERF Missile Storm, the "pointed stick" and an unripe banana.
Wild boars don't walk away in disinterest. Attacking them, even if you miss, is a Porcine Declaration Of War, at which point they turn into Enraged Tusken Torpedoes and proceed to [colorful idiomatic expression deleted]. They're made of some kind of Elemental Evil, I swear.
Desslock it's always good to bring a healer with you next to time you tank the boars.
Or if you plan to heal bring a tank with you, Paladins seems to be the best for both parties :D
Mine was 367 pounds, you have it in you being born in Viking land and living in land of the Mexia. Take up bow hunting at least, it is a very different experience, much more primal.
Explosive arrow heads for the win, and most primal hunting tools.
Oh and I'm an Omnivore, I eat anything that use to move, and was rooted in the ground.
In other Words I just eat, no questions asked.
Spadesy
January 1st, 2009, 04:09 AM
Be like me and get 18 stitches hunting wild boar with an atlatl. Only then can you truely appreciate chicharrónes.
Where did you do this at?
A few Christmas seasons ago I went deer hunting with my step dad and we eventually did a drive-by shooting with a muzzle loader at one fairly close to the road. We burned the midnight oil cutting that big thing up in the garage, and South Dakota gets damn cold in the winter. We sipped on whiskey, supposedly butchers used to do that to "keep warm" when cutting up meat in the old days.
Have to agree. Very satisfying eating your own product you put work into.
Triple R
January 3rd, 2009, 06:49 PM
I'm an omnivore. I do like some fruits and vegetables and dairy products a lot, but I have to admit that I'm a meat lover. I find that I don't feel full at the end of the day unless I had at least one very meaty meal.
I don't mind vegetarians or vegans, but I do dislike it when vegetarians or vegans act like meat eating is wrong for all of us.
My view is that if humanity as a whole shouldn't eat meat, then we wouldn't be omnivores. In other words, our very status as omnivores legitimates our meat-eating, imo.
Caster13
January 3rd, 2009, 07:28 PM
I am a firm hater of organic foods. Most of the chemicals that are in vegetables and meat are there to make it SAFE TO EAT. I'm not eating something that people found on a forest floor somewhere.
I'm a meat lover.
Wait what type of meat?:huh:
I'm sorry I was dying to do that for so long.:lol: I just needed the opportunity.
Shiroiyuki
January 3rd, 2009, 07:43 PM
I am not at all a vegetarian BUT I don't really eat red meat/pork (unless I get a craving, which isn't usual).
I'm purely a fish gal. Sometimes turkey, sometimes chicken.
Triple R
January 3rd, 2009, 07:44 PM
I am a firm hater of organic foods. Most of the chemicals that are in vegetables and meat are there to make it SAFE TO EAT. I'm not eating something that people found on a forest floor somewhere.
Wait what type of meat?:huh:
I'm sorry I was dying to do that for so long.:lol: I just needed the opportunity.
No problem. :) My favorite meat is probably chicken, actually.
Caster13
January 3rd, 2009, 07:47 PM
I am not at all a vegetarian BUT I don't really eat red meat/pork (unless I get a craving, which isn't usual).
I'm purely a fish gal. Sometimes turkey, sometimes chicken.
You like crab? Cause I would challenge you to a snow crab eating contest if I knew you.:shifty:
Diomedes
January 3rd, 2009, 07:56 PM
I'm omnivore. I think everybody should be an omnivore. Why? If we where all vegans/vegetarians, it would be impossible to feed all humans with just plants. There isn't space enough to plant the amount of vegetables needed for all human population.
Shiroiyuki
January 3rd, 2009, 07:57 PM
You like crab? Cause I would challenge you to a snow crab eating contest if I knew you.:shifty:
Crab is okay -- I'd like some crab cakes right now, actually :wub:. Crab smells horrid while cooking :x so I only eat it at restaurants (and infrequently at that) -- but when I get the opportunity, oh, happiness is mine.
I much prefer lobster though! I'd take you up on that challenge in a heartbeat (and win, true story).
Caster13
January 3rd, 2009, 08:12 PM
Crab cakes ****ing rock.:P:smokin:
However I'm sorry but I don't like lobster. Only snow crab. I know somebody who can eat that like they're breathing air. Unless your a 100 pound Japanese guy you can't beat him.
goddessofanime
January 3rd, 2009, 09:35 PM
I tried to go vegetarian a few years back, but I love meat way too much.
However, I eat chicken and fish mostly.
Jia
January 3rd, 2009, 09:57 PM
I don't eat a lot of stuffs (no pork for religious reasons, hate fish, hate eggs, only really eat fruit and pasta and sweet stuff)....that's Jiasimarianism for you.
taily
January 4th, 2009, 10:07 AM
I'm purely a fish gal. Sometimes turkey, sometimes chicken.
I know what you mean but slightly humorously that sounds like you're saying Chicken and turkey are fish.
Scandiadream
January 4th, 2009, 03:43 PM
I am a vegetarian. If it were for me, everybody would be a vegetarian. People are animals too. I do not feel comfortable eating animals (other than the ocassional Tuna Tarragon Temptation at Sweet Tomatoes). If all persons were vegetarians, natural resources would be conserved much better, there would be less pollution, and people would be healthier overall.
Phantom
January 4th, 2009, 03:55 PM
I'm a Omnivore. All fall before me. Nature is one big playpen ripe for plunder so why limit yourself when you can taste anything the world has to offer?
tenshi_a
January 7th, 2009, 01:23 PM
Morally:
I like nature and so I recognise how food chains work. This thing eats that thing and so forth; that's how it's supposed to be. That's how the world works; living things live on the nutrients of dead things. Whether you're an animal eating other animals, an animal eating plants, or a plant getting nutrients from other dead things in compost.
There are lots of vegetarians and vegans who think that eating animals is morally bad but eating plants is morally good. I dunno; plants are nice and don't bark at you, try to eat you, or chase you around. So although I eat a mixture of both plants and animals, I feel slightly worse about killing plants to eat than I do animals since plants are mostly nice and harmless. But this is how life works on our planet.
Dietary:
I'm an omnivore. Some days I will just take a roast chicken and rip its limbs off and eat merrily. And I really love to eat fish, particularly freshwater fish. Some days I don't eat any meat at all. I quite like to eat tofu. I don't like lamb, don't much care for bacon, and I only occasionally eat beef. I particularly prefer curry without meat, as meat seems to distort the flavour too much.
animeotaku99
January 7th, 2009, 06:00 PM
I am a vegetarian. If it were for me, everybody would be a vegetarian. People are animals too. I do not feel comfortable eating animals (other than the ocassional Tuna Tarragon Temptation at Sweet Tomatoes). If all persons were vegetarians, natural resources would be conserved much better, there would be less pollution, and people would be healthier overall.
No there would not be less pollution or more resources. It takes much more land to raise crops then to raise animals. It also takes more logistics to harvest crops then animals. Meat is an essential part of the diet since there are a few necessary minerals that one receives from meat.
And what would we do with al of the cattle, chickens, hogs ect? What wold be do able animal populations such as deer that are already so over populated that they starve to death from lack of food?
Aquaria
January 7th, 2009, 08:19 PM
Which one are you?
And yes I know we are all techniqly omnivores but you know what I mean smartass.
We are omnivores because we chose to be. Our anatomy is much closer to a herbivore.
http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mcdougall/030700pumeatinthehumandiet.htm
http://www.goveg.com/naturalhumandiet_physiology.asp
http://www.foodrevolution.org/askjohn/30.htm
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/2062/ana.HTML
If we were made as omnivores then being vegetarian shouldn't be healthier.
http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html
http://www.wisegeek.com/has-it-been-proven-that-a-vegetarian-diet-is-really-
healthier.htm (http://www.wisegeek.com/has-it-been-proven-that-a-vegetarian-diet-is-really-healthier.htm)
I'm a Omnivore. I think everyone should be an Onmivore.
Animals eat other animals all the time. It's the food chain, and we're in it. Damned vegetarians always trying to defy nature...
Animals do eat other animals in the wild, they have to in order to survive. We don't need too. If we are herbivores then a vegetarian would be natural. However it is also natural for us to
make unhealthy choices like eating fast food. Or eating what ever we have to in order to survive.
Vegetarian here, mostly through parental influence. Meat carries some essential nutrients, though it has its own disadvantages. I'm fine with substitutes
and a balanced meal, while still eating eggs and fish.
A vegan diet, on the other hand, is pure foolishness. A vegetarian diet works in this day and age because of the massive diversity we now have in our food supply. Vegans are simply
stunting themselves for their ideologies.
Those essential nutrients can be found in vegetarian sources. It is easy to be vegetarian today because so many people are becoming vegetarian. Being vegetarian used to be the
challenge that being vegan is today. I wouldn't call being vegan as stunting. Its not very hard, its just not always convenient. I'm guessing that will change in the future just like it has for
vegetarianism.
Yes, because anyone who hates Dr. pepper is Hitler reborn. :P
Seriously thou, I was more or less joking about Vegan's being disgusting. Veggie's I gots not qualms with. I actually have a friend that can't eat meats due to an ailment (Not sure what
it is, but meat makes her really sick), but I just can't fathom the idea of not wanting ANYTHING from an animal, other than some new hip thing hipsters wanting to do to be cool and
trendy.
There are many good reasons to not want to support factory farming. Considering that's where most animal products come from people exclude them out of their diet. You can still eat
animal product and not support factory farming. Not to far from me there is a really nice family farm that sells eggs. I'm guessing many people have access to farmers markets.
Here is a list of 101 reasons.
http://www.flex.com/~jai/articles/101.html
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It's cool, I didn't take it that seriously myself, hence the soda comment. I did eat meat for years, but then I went through a phase where it was making me feel sick, so I explored other
alternatives. Kinda stuck with 'em. Probably it was a transitory thing, but I've never felt the urge to try meat again. I really enjoy the things I've been eating for the last several years.
If I'm being honest I can't grasp the concept of not liking dairy products myself. I can't think of a single day in my life that ever passed without me eating dairy.
People avoid dairy for pretty much the same reasons they avoid meat. The meat industry does more harm then the dairy industry though, so even if you are just vegetarian your are still
making a difference.
^I don't care what people say, guys who eat meat are genetically manlier than vegetarians or vegans ... or tutyfruitytarians and whatnot.
I'm not implying not being manly is a flaw, but since you said what you sayd, I had to step in...
Can you find some links to support this?
I'm omnivorous. Vegetarians are fine either by choice or medical condition, as they still generally consume animals or by products
thereof. Vegans, on the other hand, are acceptable only due to medical problems. Being vegan by choice makes no real sense to me based on biological standards.
Plus, meat tastes good.
What are these biological standards?
Eating meat increases testosterone.
edit: Which makes me realize I was wrong when I said "genetically manlier", so I guess I should take it back and replace it with "biologically manlier".
It can also increases man boobs.
http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=1083383
Because of all the hormones they pump the animals with the EU has banned imported beef and dairy from the US
http://www.thirdage.com/nutrition/added-hormones-in-meat-and-dairy
-do-they-affect-health-and-if-so-how (http://www.thirdage.com/nutrition/added-hormones-in-meat-and-dairy-do-they-affect-health-and-if-so-how).
There is a reason why one group of Austrolopithicines were a dead end and the others kept evolving. Meat was the catalyst that led to modern
man.
Our ansesters had to eat what they could to survive. Just because they ate meat doesn't mean you have to.
Human evolution has also been linked to cooked tubers .
http://cogweb.ucla.edu/Abstracts/Pennisi_99.html
More on the early human diet.
http://www.ivu.org/history/early/archaeology.html
http://veg.ca/content/view/285/113/
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted yet.
Carrot Juice is Murder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmK0bZl4ILM)
I can't stand most Vegans. I've seen too many people get attacked, physically because they eat animals.
The ELF, Earth Liberation Front and ALF, Animal Liberation Front are considered Domestic Terrorist organizations. And I am personally pushing for the listing of Sea Shepherd as a
terrorist organization (They are currently attacking Japanese whalers with acid)
But you never seen people getting attacked for not eating meat? I know one girl who would always get lunch meat thrown at her in the schools cafeteria. She wasn't even vocal about
being vegetarian.
I really don't think stealing lab animals is terrorism. Even if they damages stuff I don't see how it is an act of terrorism any more then the Boston Tea Party.
Aquaria
January 7th, 2009, 08:20 PM
Well one lab said that it would accept Animal Rights activists/terrorists as test subjects. I media person from, PETA I believe said something along the
lines of. "Thats ridiculuous what do they think we are? Animals?"
Many people are test subjects. I was friends with a girl whos mom did if for extra cash.
Can you find a link to this?
Yes, we should let the protestors volunteer for medical experiments instead of burning down sub divisions, wrecking labs, or screaming at people
for eating KFC. Then we still have our old friends the Sea Kittens (http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/).
Most animal testing is done for money not human safety. So they really don't need to act as test subjects. I'm pretty sure legally they couldn't be subjected to the tests even if the
wanted to.
Veganism by definition is a vacuous attempt at intellectual superiority through culinary means. The only probelm being that Vegan products and cooking taste like **** compared to
actual products that use animal protein and fat.
Can you support this?
Just because it is vegan doesn't mean it can't be tasty.
Here are some foods that I like that are vegan.
Oreos
Nutter Butter Bites
Cocoa Puffs
Cracker Jack
Pretzels
Cap’n Crunch Peanut Butter Crunch
Cheerios
Triscuits
Little Debbie Cake Donuts
Pillsbury Crescent Rolls
Campbell’s Tomato Soup
Peanut butter and Jelly
I'm an Omnivore. I don't mind vegans or vegetarians. But the hard core ones that think its immoral or cruel to eat meat piss me off. I'm pointing at you PETA.
Im not a PETA fan, but If factory farming is unethical then why wouldn't it be unethical to support it?
First of all, PETA are ****ing retarded and they never actually do anything. ALF might use Sleuth Diplomacy but PETA just sit there doing bugger all.
Probably because they're so stuffed with white guilt they can barely move.
Ninth of all, there can be no nobler death than being conveted into raw SCIENCE. I approve.
Twelth of all, Veganism by definition is not a vacuous attempt at intellectual superiority. Some people just don't like meat, same way some people don't like veggies.
Also, you can be vegan with out eating the "vegan" products. Besides, most of the meat subsitiutes and the like have milk in the anyway, meaning they're off limits to vegans.
And yes, they are totally disgusting.
I do admit some folks are vegan on purpose just so that they can be different. They also tend to be overflowing with white guilt and, like PETA, those guys are idiots and are a waste of
oxygen and skin.
PETA messes a lot of things up but the do bring a lot of people to the cause too. There is no reason why a vegan has to eat the fake vegan stuff they sell in the store. There are many
vegan ones also. Morningstar Farms is starting to make more of their stuff vegan. Like all foods some taste good some taste bad. Some people are just doing it to be different, but that
doesn't mean its wrong to be vegetarian or vegan. What does white guilt have to do with anything?
I bet if you force fed a vegetarian/vegan the right meat, they'd change their way of thinking.
Humans are made to eat BOTH veggies and meat. They're defying their very nature!!
People aren't vegetarian/vegan just because they don't like the way it tastes.
Here are 101 reasons why people chose to be vegetarian/vegan.
http://www.flex.com/~jai/articles/101.html (http://www.flex.com/~jai/articles/101.html)
I'm an omnivore. I do like some fruits and vegetables and dairy products a lot, but I have to admit that I'm a meat lover. I find that I don't feel full at the end of
the day unless I had at least one very meaty meal.
I don't mind vegetarians or vegans, but I do dislike it when vegetarians or vegans act like meat eating is wrong for all of us.
My view is that if humanity as a whole shouldn't eat meat, then we wouldn't be omnivores. In other words, our very status as omnivores legitimates our meat-eating, imo.
Our status as omnivores is based on our actions not our bodies.
We are omnivores because we chose to be. Our anatomy is much closer to a herbivore.
http://www.nealhendrickson.com/mcdougall/030700pumeatinthehumandiet.htm
http://www.goveg.com/naturalhumandiet_physiology.asp
http://www.foodrevolution.org/askjohn/30.htm
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/2062/ana.HTML
If we were made as omnivores then being vegetarian shouldn't be healthier.
http://www.thechinastudy.com/about.html
http://www.wisegeek.com/has-it-been-proven-that-a-vegetarian-diet-is-really-
healthier.htm (http://www.wisegeek.com/has-it-been-proven-that-a-vegetarian-diet-is-really-healthier.htm)
I'm omnivore. I think everybody should be an omnivore. Why? If we where all vegans/vegetarians, it would be impossible to feed all humans with just plants. There isn't space enough to plant the amount of vegetables needed for all human population.
You have it backwards.
According to the USDA 80% of agricultural land goes to feeding animals.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/sb973/sb973.pdf
Eating meat inefficient.
"According to the Sierra Club, producing one pound of grain-fed beef requires about 16 pounds of wheat and - as staggering as it sounds - 2,500 gallons of water."
http://www.bayweekly.com/year05/issuexiii1/earthtalkxiii1.html
All the cattle alone eat enough food to equal to the calorie needs of 8.7 billion people. That is more the the human population.
http://www.ciwf.org/publications/reports/The_Global_Benefits_of_Eating_Less_Meat. pdf
Morally:
I like nature and so I recognise how food chains work. This thing eats that thing and so forth; that's how it's supposed to be. That's how the world works; living things live on the nutrients of dead things. Whether you're an animal eating other animals, an animal eating plants, or a plant getting nutrients from other dead things in compost.
There are lots of vegetarians and vegans who think that eating animals is morally bad but eating plants is morally good. I dunno; plants are nice and don't bark at you, try to eat you, or chase you around. So although I eat a mixture of both plants and animals, I feel slightly worse about killing plants to eat than I do animals since plants are mostly nice and harmless. But this is how life works on our planet.
Dietary:
I'm an omnivore. Some days I will just take a roast chicken and rip its limbs off and eat merrily. And I really love to eat fish, particularly freshwater fish. Some days I don't eat any meat at all. I quite like to eat tofu. I don't like lamb, don't much care for bacon, and I only occasionally eat beef. I particularly prefer curry without meat, as meat seems to distort the flavour too much.
Plants can not suffer like an animal can. There is no reason for the inmobile to feel pain. You feel pain so you can avoid harming yourself.
Aquaria
January 7th, 2009, 08:21 PM
No there would not be less pollution or more resources. It takes much more land to raise crops then to raise animals. It also takes more logistics to harvest crops then animals. Meat is an essential part of the diet since there are a few necessary minerals that one receives from meat.
And what would we do with al of the cattle, chickens, hogs ect? What wold be do able animal populations such as deer that are already so over populated that they starve to death from lack of food?
Are you forgetting that those animals need to eat? They eat more calories then they can produce. You don't need to eat meat to get those necessary minerals.
The animals wouldn't be there. You cause them to be born when you buy their flesh. People aren't going to be vegetarian over night so as the demand for meat lessens so will the amount of animals being born on factory farms. Its called supply and demand.
http://www.investopedia.com/university/economics/economics3.asp
In nature animals don't over populate. We are destroying nature and factory farming is the leading cause. They aren't over populating their habitat is being cut down. Since there would be less land being used for factory farming their habitats will remain intact and their over population wont be an issue.
According to the UN factory farming creates more greenhouse gases than all the worlds vehicles, including planes and ships, combined.
There are loads of sites that prove your wrong about the meat industries effect on the environment.
http://www.epa.gov/ORD/NRMRL/pubs/600r02017/600r02017.htm
http://www.bayweekly.com/year05/issuexiii1/earthtalkxiii1.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1594/is_6_10/ai_57800749
http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:tH2WJgF_ECQJ:www.all-creatures.org/tytt/env-animalag.html+80+percent+of+its+agricult ural+land+meat&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us
http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/sb973/sb973.pdf
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/1770
http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/3372
http://www.consumersunion.org/pdf/CAFOforweb.pdf
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E04EFDE123FF932A25756 C0A9659C8B63
ZSYigadar
January 8th, 2009, 02:57 AM
On to myself, I'm technically an omnivore, but I don't eat pork (save for bacon) and try to limit my red meat intake.
Buffalo meat however, is 10X better than regular beef, definitely but a rare treat though.
This pretty much sums up how I feel. Except I don't limit my MEAT INTAKE.
Pork I find disgusting. Oh, and I chose "I think everyone should be an 'onmivore'" because I strive on conflict.
tenshi_a
January 8th, 2009, 03:44 AM
Just because it is vegan doesn't mean it can't be tasty.
Here are some foods that I like that are vegan.
Oreos
Nutter Butter Bites
Cocoa Puffs
Cracker Jack
Pretzels
Cap’n Crunch Peanut Butter Crunch
Cheerios
Triscuits
Little Debbie Cake Donuts
Pillsbury Crescent Rolls
Campbell’s Tomato Soup
Peanut butter and Jelly
With the exception of Tomato Soup (which is loaded with salt if you buy Campbell's, - now Bachelor's - brand), those are all bad tasting and really unhealthy.
I'd have given an example which was... well, I don't know if you have any brands of potato chips there which are vegan... and it's perfectly easy to make normal meals like pasta and pesto or whatever, all good quality vegan food...
Also, much as I dislike Oreos (they taste like old used machine oil with sugar, to me) I know there was a big advertising campaign telling people to eat them with terrible manners; dunking them into milk, playing with your food, licking out the middle. Foul behaviour. But there you are - non-vegan well known serving suggestion. :/
Plants can not suffer like an animal can. There is no reason for the inmobile to feel pain. You feel pain so you can avoid harming yourself.
I don't see how that makes any difference; whether or not it feels pain, that seems a perfectly arbitrary reason when you consider that it is a matter of life and death. You're still robbing those plants of life and saying it's better than killing animals, that's a pretty irrelevant reason.
You're saying it's better to kill things that can't run away, escape, or avoid attack. I can see how it would seem more convenient, but I cannot understand why you think it is ok to murder defenseless plants but not farmed animals. I'd say their right to life is equal. The burden upon the eater is equal - you take life either way. However, in the case of plants there was never any mechanism of defense or harm intended, so you're just preying on an easy target... so I just have a bit more sympathy for the plants. All they want to do is live and give us oxygen.
Haro!
January 8th, 2009, 08:12 AM
Not sure if I answered this before or not. But. I am an omnivore. I was interested in becoming a vegeterian or full on vegan for a couple of reasons. The first was to be trendy, and cool and hipsterish. The second was because my major has many courses that deal with the environment, I found that eating meat, rather the raising of livestock, has a lot of negative impact on the environment over all, so that seemed like a good reason to stop. Also, my yoga instructor was a vegan, and even though she was in her 50's she looked great and was in really great shape.
Then reality sunk in. I LOVE bacon. And that was just the start. I love hamburgers and Korean food. And Korean girls, wait that came out wrong. And pastrami from Katz's.
Bernard_Monsha
January 8th, 2009, 10:12 AM
Our ansesters had to eat what they could to survive. Just because they ate meat doesn't mean you have to.
I do if I don't want to spam loads unrealted links on a subject to seem like I am making a valid argument and hope no one notices.
Human evolution has also been linked to cooked tubers .
http://cogweb.ucla.edu/Abstracts/Pennisi_99.html
I had no idea that ramapithicus and austrolopithicines were cooking all those millions of years ago. <_<
More on the early human diet.
http://www.ivu.org/history/early/archaeology.html
http://veg.ca/content/view/285/113/
Irrelevent and laughably off. Early man ate meat because it is the best source of nutrition and calories, even in those rare uncontacted tribes we have today it is eat that is prized above plant matter. We are hard wired to eat meat especially in it's ultimate form of bacon. God, Darwin, and Anthony Bourdain all agree on it.
ryushe
January 8th, 2009, 11:08 AM
Also, much as I dislike Oreos (they taste like old used machine oil with sugar, to me) I know there was a big advertising campaign telling people to eat them with terrible manners; dunking them into milk, playing with your food, licking out the middle. Foul behaviour.
Damn you tenshi, I can't look at another Oreo the same again :lol:
taily
January 8th, 2009, 11:15 AM
*snip*
You linked to a site called Veg.ca and International Vegetarian Union, and act as if these aren't going to be grossly bias. Hell, you linked to a godamn geosite. How long before you link to peta?
Jon
January 8th, 2009, 04:02 PM
Omnivore here....I can't imagine how people can't at least eat steak once a week..
And eating salad to me is the same as eating grass :lol:
Midoriko87
January 8th, 2009, 07:49 PM
And eating salad to me is the same as eating grass :lol:
I feel the same way. :bow:
Old Ape Face
January 8th, 2009, 08:57 PM
And eating salad to me is the same as eating grass :lol:
Ok you go out and eat grass and then eat a head of lettuce and tell me the difference. ;) in the texture and the taste.
Don't forget the blue cheese dressing, and the tomato and cucumber and the Parmesan (sp) cheese, and those crispy egg noodles and the Crouttons (sp).
LIGER_ZERO
January 8th, 2009, 09:26 PM
Omnivore. I like to eat the animals that eat the veggies.I love my fried chicken.I cant help it southerns loves some fried chicken. I mostly eat chicken and beef but every now and then BBQ is a must.
Old Ape Face
January 8th, 2009, 09:31 PM
meh BBQ is messy. Hot buffalo boneless Chicken: now that is a nice piece of spicy heaven, that and the Blue Cheese dip to go with it.
Always need a nice piece of celery sticks on the side.
This thread is making me hungry.
Jon
January 8th, 2009, 09:33 PM
Ok you go out and eat grass and then eat a head of lettuce and tell me the difference. ;) in the texture and the taste.
Both taste disgusting.
And it depends on what type of grass, really. I mean, the green and "soft" grass is a bearable taste, but the brown and crunchy taste just ain't my cup of tea.
It's okay Yuki, I know others enjoy different food, but I just don't think grass is what you should be consuming.
Samurai Drifter
January 8th, 2009, 11:11 PM
I generally avoid red meat for health reasons, but I do eat chicken and fish. Nothing wrong with eating meat. It's much more costly to produce in terms of energy, but I honestly don't care enough to change my habits.
superplough
January 9th, 2009, 12:42 AM
eating salad to me is the same as eating grass :lol:
Completely agreed.
Old Ape Face
January 9th, 2009, 04:51 AM
Both taste disgusting.
And it depends on what type of grass, really. I mean, the green and "soft" grass is a bearable taste, but the brown and crunchy taste just ain't my cup of tea.
It's okay Yuki, I know others enjoy different food, but I just don't think grass is what you should be consuming.
Grass is actually very tough, you'll be chewing on it for hours before you just spit it out.
What you didn't try and eat grass when you were 5?
Jon
January 9th, 2009, 05:10 AM
Grass is actually very tough, you'll be chewing on it for hours before you just spit it out.
What you didn't try and eat grass when you were 5?
I was merely being sarcastic about eating grass......;) And of course I didn't try and eat grass when I was 5, I wasn't retarded.
Bisu
January 9th, 2009, 09:36 AM
You're saying it's better to kill things that can't run away, escape, or avoid attack. I can see how it would seem more convenient, but I cannot understand why you think it is ok to murder defenseless plants but not farmed animals. I'd say their right to life is equal. The burden upon the eater is equal - you take life either way. However, in the case of plants there was never any mechanism of defense or harm intended, so you're just preying on an easy target... so I just have a bit more sympathy for the plants. All they want to do is live and give us oxygen. We're not murdering plants. Humans (typically, I suppose) don't eat the roots, stem, leaves, or soil (essential to a plant's survival, obviously); we eat the fruits & vegetables the plant happens to produce and eventually release from its node when fully matured. They'll continue to live, grow, produce, and give us oxygen regardless of whether or not we decide to pluck and eat said fruits & vegetables.
I dunno; plants are nice and don't bark at you, try to eat you, or chase you around. Likewise, plants don't sniff out marijuana and other dangerous drugs at the airport or track down escaped convicts through a dense forest, possibly preventing said convict from killing/raping other people. And just as not all dogs bark at you, try to eat you, or chase you around, not all plants are nice (http://poisonivy.aesir.com/view/pictures.html).
Now, don't get me wrong; I really don't care either way. When it comes to eating, I don't care for the life of a plant anymore than I do for an animal. Even so, I think it's fair to say that there's a difference between plucking a tomato from a node and blowing the brains out of an animal. But that's just me.
Anyway, I'm obviously an omnivore, always have been, always will be. Though my meat consumption has been low since moving out due to my impatience for cooking and lack of time (I hate fast food restaurants, and the decent ones tend to be too expensive for my liking). A bowl of fruits and salad is easier to prepare and not as greasy to wash as a steak or turkey.
Magami No ER
January 9th, 2009, 11:35 AM
And of course I didn't try and eat grass when I was 5, I wasn't retarded.
All the cool 5 year olds not only ate grass, but paper, bugs, AND lead paint. From the house walls.
(Alas, my parents are still alive and far from retarded (unless they try to be funny)
taily
January 9th, 2009, 11:54 AM
Grass is actually very tough, you'll be chewing on it for hours before you just spit it out.
Just a random question, but does Kenpachi by any chance eat grass as his staple diet?
We could be coming close to the source of the problem!
Old Ape Face
January 9th, 2009, 12:34 PM
Just a random question, but does Kenpachi by any chance eat grass as his staple diet?
I sure hope he's not eating staples.
ZSYigadar
January 9th, 2009, 03:43 PM
Hey, what's it matter? Whether you're a meat-eater, veggie lover, or somewhere in between, we're all human beings, right?
Oh my god, how rude of me to dispute the need for the thread. I apologize. Of course any question posed for debate is a valid one.
Spadesy
January 9th, 2009, 06:56 PM
I was merely being sarcastic about eating grass......;) And of course I didn't try and eat grass when I was 5, I wasn't retarded.
Eating grass at 5 isn't retarded, at least I don't think I was...anyway,
I love my dry lettuce for a salad, with ranch dressing. MMM boy.
GreatNekoKoneko
January 9th, 2009, 07:41 PM
Eating grass at 5 isn't retarded, at least I don't think I was...anyway,
I love my dry lettuce for a salad, with ranch dressing. MMM boy.
... silly dusty. you don't eat grass. YOU SMOKE IT.
Midoriko87
January 9th, 2009, 07:58 PM
Eating grass at 5 isn't retarded, at least I don't think I was...anyway,
I love my dry lettuce for a salad, with ranch dressing. MMM boy.
I tried to eat grass/leaves as a kid, 'cause I didn't like salad, but I wanted to fit in. *Thinks* Good thing I didn't stumble upon a rhubarb patch. :O Truthfully, I remember some of those leaves tasting better than lettuce. -_-; If you're asking, "Why didn't you just pick up a salad in the lunch line?" As if! Trade-in my Chow Chow-meat (Hey! It was once a delicacy in Manchuria) nachos for a friggin' salad, pa-lease! :angry:
Still, I wish I could be vegetarian... Dam It, Why must animals be so darned delicious?!! :(
Jon
January 9th, 2009, 08:11 PM
Because...you are a sane person! *thinks a second* Oh gosh, I just called Midoriko sane?-_-;
Caster13
January 9th, 2009, 08:17 PM
Just a random question, but does Kenpachi by any chance eat grass as his staple diet?
We could be coming close to the source of the problem!
Nope, never have. Though when I was in the 3rd grade I fell down during recess and right when I was about to hit the ground a grasshopper was about to jump and the timing was just right that it ended up jumping into my open mouth and right down my throat when I landed.:wacko:
On a side note, no I did not hit my head when I fell.
Spadesy
January 9th, 2009, 08:24 PM
I tried to eat grass/leaves as a kid, 'cause I didn't like salad, but I wanted to fit in. *Thinks* Good thing I didn't stumble upon a rhubarb patch. :O Truthfully, I remember some of those leaves tasting better than lettuce. -_-; If you're asking, "Why didn't you just pick up a salad in the lunch line?" As if! Trade-in my Chow Chow-meat (Hey! It was once a delicacy in Manchuria) nachos for a friggin' salad, pa-lease! :angry:
Still, I wish I could be vegetarian... Dam It, Why must animals be so darned delicious?!! :(
Protein is good for you. Keep on with it. As for the nachos thing, I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that I'm eating hardy these days myself. I'm having nothing that tastes really good that is fattening, but nothing that is just pure veges and meat either. :lol:
Scandiadream
January 10th, 2009, 04:45 AM
One can have vegetarian nachos, trust me.
Yesterday I had black bean-cheese-low fat sour cream-salsa-onion-black olive-jalapenos nachos at Tijuana Flats. They were pretty good.
Spadesy
January 10th, 2009, 06:53 AM
Scandiadream, Mexican food being Mexican food alone already ensures mud-butt, why do you have to eat something that compounds it?
Bernard_Monsha
January 10th, 2009, 01:50 PM
One can have vegetarian nachos, trust me.
Yesterday I had black bean-cheese-low fat sour cream-salsa-onion-black olive-jalapenos nachos at Tijuana Flats. They were pretty good.
:( Heresy! Nouvelle-Pan-American-Tex-Mex-Vegetarian-Low-Calorie is not a natural cuisine type, sorry.
Caster13
January 10th, 2009, 06:03 PM
Proper nachos include guacamole. GOOD guacamole for that matter.
Scandiadream
January 10th, 2009, 06:26 PM
I absolutely despise guacamole. Never cared for it.
Caster13
January 10th, 2009, 06:32 PM
Then you obviously haven't had the right guacamole. You must have had the cheap crappy stuff that people use to dip carrots, celery and pretzels in.
Bernard_Monsha
January 10th, 2009, 06:55 PM
I absolutely despise guacamole. Never cared for it.
Do you like Avocados? Avocados with some salt and lime are wonderful as are avocado milkshakes.
Scandiadream
January 11th, 2009, 03:56 AM
I do not like avocados period. But there is more than just that- let's just leave it as a bad association. That said, I have never cared for guac.
Haro!
January 11th, 2009, 08:28 AM
I thought I didn't like guacamole. But then one day. Boom. I loved it. It is ideal with steak and tortillas.
superplough
January 11th, 2009, 10:21 AM
I was the same with avacados. Dunno why though, one day I had some avacado with chicken, and it was one of the greatest things ever.
Caster13
January 11th, 2009, 04:18 PM
I thought I didn't like guacamole. But then one day. Boom. I loved it. It is ideal with steak and tortillas.
The exact same thing with me. Never tried it with steak though.
Haro!
January 11th, 2009, 11:29 PM
Never tried it with steak though.
That is because you have not lived yet Kenpachi. Word of advice, may seem obvious but you have to make sure. You don't actually cook the steak with the guacamole. Rather you cook your steak to taste, and have the guacamole on the side. You do not eat your steak with utensils. You use tortillas as your cutleries, mixing the steak and guacamole. This is the only way I ever eat without a knife and fork. I eat sandwiches with a knife and fork. But this. No. Oh and salsa is optional. And refried beans are a good addition. It may lead to gas, but alas that is the omnivores' burden.
Luna
January 12th, 2009, 12:12 PM
I've been trying to go vegetarian for a few months. The truth is that I'm only a vegetarian until i get hungry.
Nami
January 13th, 2009, 02:19 AM
There are time that I want to go vegan/vegetarian but I always forget it whenever I saw my favorite food. -_-;
Old Ape Face
January 13th, 2009, 08:09 AM
Thinking everyone should be an Omnivore is like saying, everyone who smokes should quit right now...
In which case I don't care if people smoke as long as you don't pull me to do it also.
Meegle
January 13th, 2009, 12:34 PM
Vegeterian, and I don't care what other people eat. It's up to them. I'd be a vegan but it's too expensive and I love cheese too much.
Vaikyuko
January 13th, 2009, 12:43 PM
Thinking everyone should be an Omnivore is like saying, everyone who smokes should quit right now...
In which case I don't care if people smoke as long as you don't pull me to do it also.
It'd be healthier for everyone if no one smoked, whereas dietary choices affect only the individual (and perhaps corporations looking to appeal to certain consumers).
So no, it's not like saying everyone should stop smoking. Smoking is far more harmful than being a vegan/vegetarian.
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