Presidential debate

[Caster13]

I know it's a few days late, but who else watched it? And what were your impressions?

[Rurouni Saiyan]

Lots of posturing and politicking. Nothing to see really.

[Bernard_Monsha]

I do not like people repeating bumper stickers to each other, which is exactly what this was. I mostly drank to numb the dumbness spilling from my TV.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

... it's like watching Cirque du Soleil - you KNOW its a circus, but only gayer.

[sailornyanko]

I only saw the second half of it (my dentist took forever to change the wires for my braces). While I don't like Obama, I think he sort of won it. He still stuttered (and McCain didn't take advantage of it), but Obama was concise and got to the point.

McCain looked senile and blabbered on his one issue issue: Irak Irak Irak Irak.. oh, and Irak. I can understand he means well about giving better treatment to veterans, but veterans don't make up most of the population of the country and are just a minor problem when you compare that to people about to lose their homes or job outsourcing (wasn't this debate going to be about foreign issues and not the economy?).

In a great surprise, Obama was the only one that even mentioned anything about Latin America (Oh my! We're on the world map!!) in the debate. Sure, Irak takes away a lot of dough and such and Russia picking on little countries sure sucks, but Venezuela talking to Russia about building a nuclear program? Doesn't that ring a red light? Mexico didn't even exist during the debate = PHAIL.

I hope the next debate of Palin/Biden will be far better.

[Caster13]

I only saw the second half of it (my dentist took forever to change the wires for my braces). While I don't like Obama, I think he sort of won it. He still stuttered (and McCain didn't take advantage of it), but Obama was concise and got to the point.

McCain looked senile and blabbered on his one issue issue: Irak Irak Irak Irak.. oh, and Irak.

And General MacCalister (sp?), who I had determined partway through it is his gay sex buddy.

[sailornyanko]

And General MacCalister (sp?), who I had determined partway through it is his gay sex buddy.

Oh god that was funny!!! :huggles:

[Ken-Ohki]

I do not like people repeating bumper stickers to each other, which is exactly what this was. I mostly drank to numb the dumbness spilling from my TV.

Wow. I never have watched political debates and really couldn't care less to watch one now. I've already made my decisions based on GASP! past voting history.

[Xhalen]

I'm sure most people who identify themselves with one party or the other already know who they're voting for. These debates are basically to sway the undecided.

I didn't watch it but from what I've read and hear Mr. Obama may have looked better to the aforementioned group than Mr. McCain.

[Caster13]

Please he outright won that debate, hands down. He stuttered a little, big freakin whoop. He stands for a lot better things than McCain, and has a lot better plan.

However even though there's a good chance people in this country will vote him for president, the ****ing electoral college can go the opposite way. And of course those bastards are easily swayed by bribery.

Or someone will shoot him at some point. If not, then he can fix this country.

[sailornyanko]

Didn't Obama mention somewhere he wants to bring several tens of millions of muslim immigrants to the US? (Don't want a flame war to start, but if this is so, this will cause problems, not fix them). France only has a couple million muslims and they burned half of Paris a few years ago. There's just a limit on how much cultural meshing the US will be able to tolerate if this happens.

[Bernard_Monsha]

I don't think so, people would go crazy if he did come out with that. They are already angry enough about Mexicans who cost a big chunk of change.

[Caster13]

um, no!? Were you watching this in Spanish? Cause someone might have mistranslated just so they could bash the guy.

He never said that.

[Bernard_Monsha]

um, no!? Were you watching this in Spanish? Cause someone might have mistranslated just so they could bash the guy.

He never said that.

I do not think she meant during the debate.

[Xhalen]

If not, then he can fix this country.


As much as I'd like to think it'd be as easy as electing one person to do this, there needs to be a fundemental change in the way people think before this country will ever be 'fixed'.

I guess it all depends on whether you think there's a problem(and how large of it is) with the country or not. I'm sure there are some people who are quite content with the way things are.

(Just throwing this out there, not trying to bait a flame-war)

[Raziel_MGS]

i love how you post a neutral thread, then start in with your liberal crap, way to have an in-depth and well thought out discussion. now go back to finishing your highschool homework

[Xhalen]

*Looks around*

Did I miss something?

[GreatNekoKoneko]

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j24/zoso808/barbrady.jpg

... ok, people. nothing to see here. MOVE ALONG.

[sailornyanko]

Highschool homework? Hrm.. I can't even remember which year I actually WAS still in highschool.

Nah, I saw the debate in english on Fox News (gotta love mexican cable tv). mexican news coverage wouldn't bother showing the US debates dubbed to spanish. The news media are still too busy slobbereing over AMLO to care.

[Caster13]

I stated my opinion. And I'm done. That shouldn't stop anyone else.

[Haro!]

I don't think the debate changed anyone's mind about either candidate. Debates just seem to be a "don't f*** up and you'll be fine" sort of deal. Only doing extremely poorly (and this has more to do with image in the minds of your average voter not so much policy) could change voters perceptions.
I may or may not have stated this here before. But I am withdrawing my support for Barack Obama, in favor of a candidate that better suits my views: Roosevelt Franklin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRH5-q7iFS0&feature=related)

[ryo_senpai]

Personally I didn't have any strong connections wit ether candidate. All this debate was about was cannon fodder for the undecided group. But I will say that I'm leaning to Barack Obama if for anything because I don't want Sarah Palin anywhere near the President seat.

And on a side note I'm so recording the VP debate.
If I was a woman Sarah Palin in office in any forum would scare me where I couldn't sleep for days. And not to throw the race card but as we all know Republicans are cut throat with Democrats. And if Obama had a daughter pregnant out of wedlock they would have torn him a new one but its ok for Sarah HUH<_<........................................ ........................................ .....

[Stafal-chan]

~_~ I haven't been watching any of the political debate stuff...and I'm 18 this year and can actually vote.....

.........I......have.....no......idea... ..what....to...do.-_-; Dunno who I like dunno who I dislike haven't taken the time to look into any of it.

[superplough]

You should vote for Obama. :thumbsup:

[Jon]

You should vote for Obama. :thumbsup:
No! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[superplough]

Why not? :O

[Stafal-chan]

Ummm.....hahahaha :lol: I dunno who to vote for.....^^;

[CrossboneGundam]

i love how you post a neutral thread, then start in with your liberal crap, way to have an in-depth and well thought out discussion. now go back to finishing your highschool homework

I love how you think it's ok for him to ask for people's opinions but not to express his if he doesn't share yours.

I can't wait for the VP debate because if Sarah Palin's interviews have been any indication, she's going to make an even bigger fool of herself.

[Raziel_MGS]

hahaha, you get mad at me for someone posting neutrally then going on a tyrade once people start posting, you are damn right i should be upset, people cant discuss anything civil without freaking out. He asked no questions in his followup, he did not forward the debate at all. This is why threads like these get locked. Because people get called out for being internet selfish, instead of discussing, you people complain and tell everyone your opinion without trying to facilitate honest discussion. And then you go on to call Palin a fool. Really? Seriously you call someone vastly more intelligent than you a fool? She has been a mayor, a govenor, and now runs for VP of the United States of America and you call her a fool? Wait a minute...where do you get off calling another person a fool when your whole life has nothing to show about you? What have you done for this world where you get to sit in a chair and cast judgment on someone else? Oh you watch Anime, well that damn well show me how qualified you are to personally cast opinions.

[CrossboneGundam]

hahaha, you get mad at me for someone posting neutrally then going on a tyrade once people start posting, you are damn right i should be upset, people cant discuss anything civil without freaking out. He asked no questions in his followup, he did not forward the debate at all. This is why threads like these get locked. Because people get called out for being internet selfish, instead of discussing, you people complain and tell everyone your opinion without trying to facilitate honest discussion. And then you go on to call Palin a fool. Really? Seriously you call someone vastly more intelligent than you a fool? She has been a mayor, a govenor, and now runs for VP of the United States of America and you call her a fool? Wait a minute...where do you get off calling another person a fool when your whole life has nothing to show about you? What have you done for this world where you get to sit in a chair and cast judgment on someone else? Oh you watch Anime, well that damn well show me how qualified you are to personally cast opinions.

You're almost as good as McCain's PR people. Which is to say you're not even as good as a laughingstock.

Sarah Palin is not intelligent, she's a bumpkin who thinks the rapture is bound to happen any time now. There's no intelligence or educational requirement for the offices she's held.

And everyone is qualified to personally cast opinions. You're not even demonstrating a grasp of basic logic, here.

[Bernard_Monsha]

You're almost as good as McCain's PR people. Which is to say you're not even as good as a laughingstock.

Sarah Palin is not intelligent, she's a bumpkin who thinks the rapture is bound to happen any time now. There's no intelligence or educational requirement for the offices she's held.

And everyone is qualified to personally cast opinions. You're not even demonstrating a grasp of basic logic, here.

Like Mr. I'm a lobbyist and so are my sons is any better. He is the unholy lovechild of Chevy Chase and Bea Arthur and has assburgers syndrome. He reminds me of Spiro Agnew except he does not have the cool Dr. Smith vibe going for him. I still think WTF was Obama thinking picking him.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Wait a minute...where do you get off calling another person a fool when your whole life has nothing to show about you? What have you done for this world where you get to sit in a chair and cast judgment on someone else?

These questions also apply to you as well. Please answer them very carefully.

Also, Palin is stupid.

[Bradster]

I can't wait for the VP debate because if Sarah Palin's interviews have been any indication, she's going to make an even bigger fool of herself.

Let Sarah be Sarah!, as the winger talking heads say. Her convention speech that wowed the base was written for the V.P. candidate before anybody knew who it was going to be, and she frightens more and more sane people in the reality-based community each time she opens her mouth. It would take a huge blunder by Biden to overshadow this self-destructing ticket. I can barely read the transcripts of her Couric interview without wincing. I think I'll read the paper instead. Or maybe all of them. Or any of them that have been in front of me all these years.

[Raziel_MGS]

except i didnt call him a fool, i called him out for making fun of others

[sailornyanko]

Hey is anyone getting ready to see the Palin/Biden debate tonight? Too bad I'll miss it; I'm stuck at my university on a chatroom class (I could technically do the class at a computer with internet at my home, but there's no way I'd get home on time for the class in just 30 minutes in rush-hour traffic unless I got on a helicopter.. or had my very own B't) >_>.

I hope Fox News or CNN repeats it or at least the best parts of the debate.

[Xhalen]

This isn't a knock towards anyone who likes either of the candidates but when's the last time you could listen to a political candidate and feel like something great was happening(or going to) instead of playing the old 'lesser of two evils' game.

Both the VP candidates are incredibly difficuly to watch and listen to, just like their running mates. Ugh.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Palin got merced. That's all I can say.

[Caster13]

I had to change the channel a couple of times when Palin started talking because I felt a small pain in my head, which I quickly realized was my brain cells dying.

Damn and some of the stuff she said would only be used in a 1950s sitcom.

[Bernard_Monsha]

I watched about 5 minutes of them exchanging bumper stickers and went to bed. How the hell did we end up with the current set of idiots running for office?

[Raziel_MGS]

I'd say Palin won

[Garma3]

There's no intelligence or educational requirement for the offices she's held.

And everyone is qualified to personally cast opinions. You're not even demonstrating a grasp of basic logic, here.


I do believe you are the one not grasping logic. You obviously have little understanding as to how much intelligence is required to run the largest state in our union.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

... lol. they'er vice president candidates. like its all gonna mean something when they're in office.

the best thing a Vice President ever did in the history of vice presidents is when CHENEY SHOT A DUDE. that was more gar than BEAR CAVALRY.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d61/mikeyabs/Bears/bear_cavalry.jpg

and Bear Cavalry is quite gar enough as it is.

[Bradster]

the best thing a Vice President ever did in the history of vice presidents is when CHENEY SHOT A DUDE. that was more gar than BEAR CAVALRY.

Sorry, Simpsons did it first. I mean, Aaron Burr did it first.

Not related to comment:
Putin rears his head (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Mh1TZAM-AWU/SN7uuqfw5qI/AAAAAAAABTk/7dJE0nnF1wg/s1600-h/put)

[Woooh]

I'd say Palin won

...What debate were you watching...?

[Sendo Takeshi]

...What debate were you watching...?

Only a retard can reach out to a retard. He muted the smart stuff(i.e. Biden's beasting) and paid attention to the letter blocks.

ABC, 123, indeed.

[Bernard_Monsha]

I dunno it was like watching Andy Griffith debate Thurston Howell III. Watch out, despite what half mustached Soho types thinks the last 4 hicks that came to Washington became folk heroes.

[Old Ape Face]

I think I like Palin, *runs for the hills chased bye angry Native America dogs*

[Leader Desslock]

From the debate I heard, Biden outclassed Palin, who mispronounced words like "nuclear".

I don't think a person who holds high office should pronounce it "nukeular". Maybe that's just me.

As far as the quality of the debate... eh, it was dull. Objectively speaking, I think Biden won, but since most viewers watching it weren't objective, I don't think anyone's vote will be changed by it.

The only thing I found remarkable about the debate was the pundits who afterwards said, "I don't think there's any question that Palin won." Really!? I mean, if I really stretch it, I might be able to say both put in a decent performance. I might also be able to say that she didn't fail as big as she certainly had the potential to fail. But win? Come on... how can you tell a lie that big with a straight face? Seriously. Even I can't do that.

[HSaabedra]

The only thing I found remarkable about the debate was the pundits who afterwards said, "I don't think there's any question that Palin won." Really!? I mean, if I really stretch it, I might be able to say both put in a decent performance. I might also be able to say that she didn't fail as big as she certainly had the potential to fail. But win? Come on... how can you tell a lie that big with a straight face? Seriously. Even I can't do that.

Pundit= paid troll.

I'm indifferent, but I'm surprised there weren't any YouTube worthy moments a la Fox News and the liberal sprinkling of obscenities during live programming.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Pundit= paid troll.

I'm indifferent, but I'm surprised there weren't any YouTube worthy moments a la Fox News and the liberal sprinkling of obscenities during live programming.

The best part on Fox was one of the King Makers trolling Hillary and beasting Allen Comes I laughed out loud at what he said.

[Old Ape Face]

I dono about you but my folks where all in favor of Palin, cept my Sister who kept complaining that Palin was full of ****, while I sit there looking at Biden and go "So how much did Hollywood pay you to run for VP?"

[goddessofanime]

I hate to say it, but I think I'm rooting for Obama more and more. Plus, Biden's pretty well-liked around where I live and has been for years.
I have to admit, I didn't see too much of the debates so far, but Palin......I just don't like her. She has less experience than Obama.

[Caster13]

Oh please I'm so for Obama now. The only problem is that with his ideas and plans it's possible that he'll get shot by someone in either big business or the government itself at some point.

[Jae Hoon]

Oh please I'm so for Obama now. The only problem is that with his ideas are really socialist and we will be Russia 2.0.

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BTW the debate was a joke, the person asking the questions on the Debate just wrote a book on why Obama should win. You really think it was going to be fair.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Whomever wins, we lose.

[Vaikyuko]

Whomever wins, we lose.

It's like Aliens vs. Predator, except instead of the losers being killed and potentially eaten, they get tortured with ridiculous policies and absurd taxes and plans for the government/nation.

[HSaabedra]

Fixed for accuracy

BTW the debate was a joke, the person asking the questions on the Debate just wrote a book on why Obama should win. You really think it was going to be fair.

You realize the moderators are picked by the same organizations that poll and skew the numbers depending on which network pays the most, right?

[Bernard_Monsha]

You realize the moderators are picked by the same organizations that poll and skew the numbers depending on which network pays the most, right?




Did you know that most of the new voters are being registered by Fruito Boy Crispila (http://trademarked.blogspot.com/2007/08/acorns-record-clean-up-or-shut-down.html)'s organization?

[goddessofanime]

F**k that.

TINA FEY FOR PRESIDENT!

[HSaabedra]

Did you know that most of the new voters are being registered by Fruito Boy Crispila (http://trademarked.blogspot.com/2007/08/acorns-record-clean-up-or-shut-down.html)'s organization?

Doesn't surprise me one bit. ACORN kept begging me to register for their organization after I funded 89.3 KNON in Dallas, which is a local station that routinely runs their ads based on the amount of money recieved from them.

ACORN is a farce and should not be considered an actual progressive organization. Any organization that relies on far left politics and distortion tactics needs to DIAF. They haven't done anything of actual value and I'm concerned that they use their organization to keep people from striving for better things.

Bland satisfaction seems to be the new American Dream and it pisses me off.

The thing that bothers me about neosoc is how far they've taken the "liberal" tag to its extreme ends and destroyed its real meaning, choosing instead to brainwash people instead of offering a real alternative, much like the neocon base.

[animeotaku99]

II'm not a fan of Obama or Biden. They are both gun grabbing socialists who want to give everyone everything regardless if they DESERVE IT (not need, deserve). I don't like their economic ideals.
McCain I am alright with. I use to think Palin was OK until she started talking and then I wanted to slap her. She is to religious for me to want her in office and really doesn't understand foreign relations

[grgspunk]

Both VPs sucked. End of story.

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Oh please I'm so for Obama now. The only problem is that with his ideas are really socialist and we will be Russia 2.0.Fixed for accuracy

I don't know, considering the fact that our country has been overpopulated by idiots, I wouldn't mind having a great purge or two...

[HSaabedra]

Both VPs sucked. End of story.

I don't know, considering the fact that our country has been overpopulated by idiots, I wouldn't mind having a great purge or two...



Except I didn't make the statement you attribute to me, and I wouldn't say such nonsensical things to begin with. Please correct it.

[Old Ape Face]

I was wondering why Axl would even want to turn the United States into another USSR.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Except I didn't make the statement you attribute to me, and I wouldn't say such nonsensical things to begin with. Please correct it.

Your show trial will be first, kulak! So says Black Belt Vlad who is angry you did not buy his reasonably priced DVD.



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/07/article-1071392-02EDFE4300000578-503_468x1083.jpg

[animeotaku99]

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6211/1221891631249ea1.png

[Rain]

"If BS were a currency, Sarah Palin could bail out Wall Street all by herself."

[Bernard_Monsha]

Tonight's debate was boring.

The only interesting thing politically that happened this week is people have finally begun sifting through the no-no Annenberg Challenge papers which is showing something different from what the Obama spin room is trying to sell. The right is jumping on it the wrong way, the entire purpose of the grant was not to educate people but give money to local groups who instead of teaching spread according to Ayers "Radical Ideology" Coming from Ayres that is downright scary.