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sailornyanko
September 17th, 2008, 10:20 PM
I'm sad to see this news hasn't been given any notice in American news media. You see, in Mexico we kinda have 2 independance days (15,16 of September) because the Grito of Hildalgo was in the wee hours of the night so it made sense to have the official independance date late at night on the 15th, so even today we sorta have the grito at 11 pm on the 15th, get drunk and party and still have another freebe day off work to recover from the hangover.

On the grito, the president, govenors and even local mayors all over the country do their representation of the grito on the public plazas of their respective ruling entitites and it gets filled with people partying and stuff. I've never actually gone to one in person because the people I hang out with the most don't care about those things, but it would be cool to some year in the future to do it.

Anyhow, unfortunately in the plaza of the capitol city of the state of Michoacán, a terrorist used the perfect opportunity that the plaza was filled with thousands of unsuspecting people to drop a grenade that killed 7 and injured over 100 people (there was a second grenade that blew up outside of the plaza just 10 minutea after). The grenade blew up right when the govenor of Michoacán finished the grito speech and the fiewworks were starting to blow and so nobody realized anything until over an hour later.

So far the government hasn't found out who did it (it's the first time something of the sort has ever happened), but they know it was from a grenade because they found the trigger thing in both crime scenes. Some of the news say it's the narcos, but I don't buy it, the narcos either kill eachother or the militares or cops, they don't get involved with civilians with no political gain. I think it's a group of extremist mexican terrorists that want to cause anarchy to discredit Felipe (Michoacan is the president's home state).

Now, how in the hell did the terrorists get grenades, that's the real question. Mexico has stringent gun owning laws and you just can't go to a Liverpool and ask them to sell you one. Either they bought it in the black market, stole it or got it somehow from the military.

I also believe that the thing could have happened in the Zocalo square in Mexico City, but because AMLO said some government threats about he was going to do his own grito on the square (hilarious BTW because nobody paid any attention to him), Felipe ordered the military to be standing guard and to put metal detectors. It would be a shame that from now on they are going to have to have military people in every square and install metal detectors in every plaza next year for this.

So far, the three parties condemmned the acts, and the government has put a high priority into solving the case. Sadly, I do think the attacks have caused people to become panicky for no reason. My classmates were scared to death of going out to the Oxxo to buy something to drink. I could understand if it was because the neighborhood we were in isn't exactly the safest place ever and you can get mugged, but because there's going to be a terrorist bomber in the street? Meh. I went alone and came back in one piece 10 minutes later.

Oh, here's a video of the event:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1tAcc0WLjE

In spanish sorry, but it's a very interesting article about the experiences of one of the victims that got injured and survived:
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/538931.html

Bernard_Monsha
September 17th, 2008, 10:55 PM
This is terrible. :( Any word on who did it yet? My first instinct says Chaipis rebels but leftist and even Islamic terrorist could also be responsible. Of course I had not heard anything on the news because of all nattering nabobs of nitwittery in the media are too busy showing ZOMG SARAH PALIN PAID FOR A TANNING BED NOOOOOEEESSS!!!!!!

old hat
September 17th, 2008, 11:27 PM
My first instinct says Chaipis rebels [/B]

I thought the same thing. I still think they are the likely perpetrators.

Bad business. Thankfully it wasn't worse. With that many people packed in there, it could have been. That doesn't help the people injured or killed though.

Haro!
September 18th, 2008, 09:52 AM
That friggin' sucks. I wonder who did it. Oh and by the way there was that bomb somewhere in DF several months ago, did they ever find out who was responsible for that? Maybe they may even be connected.

sailornyanko
September 18th, 2008, 12:37 PM
That friggin' sucks. I wonder who did it. Oh and by the way there was that bomb somewhere in DF several months ago, did they ever find out who was responsible for that? Maybe they may even be connected.

I remember about that incident quite well. I saw a photo of the corpse (believe me, it was probably for the best that the guy died after the 4th degree burns and multiple limb amuptations he had, his intestinal wall was also torn to pieces). The guy and the woman involved in that incident who survived were brought to one of the hospitals I go to.

If my on-call duty had been in the morning instead of the afternoon, I would have probably been inside of the OR right when that man had died. It was a bit chaotic because there was a bunch of media people outside of the hospital when I came for my shift which I found to be odd. 10 minutes after showing up they had told me about the explosion (the explosion happened just about 2 hours before my shift and I hadn't turned on the tv so i didn't know anything about it), what a shock! O_o'

I didn't see the woman because she transferred to a cheaper hospital. She survived, but I think they arrested her.

I know several people that work in the area where that explosion occured and they all heard it. One of them was just a couple hundred meters away on the street, hard to believe a friend of sorts was so close to having such an ill fate.

Apparently what the cops know is that the bomb was prepared by a major criminal or something and the guy that died was paid to deliver the box to the chief of police. The bomb was supposed to go off inside of a police station which was nearby to kill that man, but something went wrong and the bomb blew up and killed the messenger guy instead. I heard from local news that the woman was also involved and that's why they arrested her after she got out of the hospital.

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As for the Michoacán thing, they haven't caught the people that did it. here's an article in spanish that just popped up. They arrested two guys interned in a general hospital in Zacatecas for traumatic injuries and transferred them to a military hospital. Apparently they match a physical description from Michoacán. Who knows if it's them or not and who they are.

http://mx.news.yahoo.com/s/18092008/65/n-business-investigan-ataques-morelia.html

Hara!
September 18th, 2008, 12:44 PM
You mean to tell me that Grenades are hard to find in Central America? Did every action movie in the 80s lie to me?

sailornyanko
September 18th, 2008, 12:50 PM
Don't know about Centro-américa because I've never been south of the mexican border (heck, the southest of Mexico I've ever been is Acapulco... I seriously need to travel more ¬¬); but in Mexico you can't even legally own a Magnum .357 unless you're a cop or you were active in the military.

Hara!
September 18th, 2008, 12:57 PM
I'm surprised I'm not hearing about this on the news. This sounds really important.

sailornyanko
September 18th, 2008, 01:10 PM
Yeah, I don't understand American newshows. 50% of the content is either the weather or they're talking about a new fad diet that doesn't replace eating right and doing exercise. Blegh.

In Mexico they only do a weather report if a hurricane is virtually about to hit your city, there's a bad cold or hot front that's lasted over 5 days or they do short 5 minute reports that an earthquake if it did actual damage to houses (which is very rare).

goddessofanime
September 18th, 2008, 06:34 PM
I'm sorry to hear that. Thankfully, at least you're okay. :)

Caster13
September 18th, 2008, 09:17 PM
Wow, I hope they get the people.

Honestly though, I thought that muslim terrorists bombed Mexico when I first saw the thread.

Haro!
September 18th, 2008, 10:18 PM
Wow, I hope they get the people.

Honestly though, I thought that muslim terrorists bombed Mexico when I first saw the thread.

Because all terrorists are Muslim. Scientifically proven. If you hear an explosion, chances are it emanated from a Muslim. They're like f***in' hydrogen or something. Or are Indians more flammable? I forget. But seriously my first thought was that it had been cartels that were responsible. If I'm not mistaken there is a lot of trouble with them in areas like Michoacán in particular. Since the general public has had protests denouncing the cartels it wouldn't be surprising if they're trying to send a message.

Caster13
September 18th, 2008, 11:03 PM
That's not what I'm saying. It's just today that's almost the first thing that comes to mind.

Spadesy
September 19th, 2008, 02:08 AM
This is terrible. :( Any word on who did it yet? My first instinct says Chaipis rebels but leftist and even Islamic terrorist could also be responsible. Of course I had not heard anything on the news because of all nattering nabobs of nitwittery in the media are too busy showing ZOMG SARAH PALIN PAID FOR A TANNING BED NOOOOOEEESSS!!!!!!

Typical retarded militant wing that's probably heavy into the drug trade. It's gotten to the point where everytime I hear about an attack like that, first thing that comes to mind is 'IED.' But grenades? That says a lot.

Mexico has been getting worse this last year with wars between the cartels and security forces. Now innocents.

Stelok
September 19th, 2008, 04:27 AM
My condolences to the poor victims of that bombing.

I have heard of worse news in the Philippines especially in Mindanao. Many civilians including kids are getting injured or dying because of the government's war with the MILF (Moro Islamic Liberation Front).

Ikari Warrior
September 19th, 2008, 07:47 AM
Between the U.S. economy and now internal strife in Mexico, I got a bad feeling about the world.

/in before Bernard says "welcome to reality"

The Million Dollar Prons
September 19th, 2008, 08:21 AM
Is Mexico supposed to be spelled with a ' above it? I never knew :O

HSaabedra
September 19th, 2008, 09:25 AM
Thank capitalism for Galavision/Univision. The last I saw, the investigation is now centering on the cartels in northern and western Mexico. You know its getting bad when Sonora Cartel members get raided by DEA agents in Dallas.

Spadesy
September 19th, 2008, 09:29 AM
My condolences to the poor victims of that bombing.

I have heard of worse news in the Philippines especially in Mindanao. Many civilians including kids are getting injured or dying because of the government's war with the MILF (Moro Islamic Liberation Front).

Yep, and ASG doesn't mess around either. Several good men were beheaded a little over a year ago. I remember working with Filipino Marines down there, those guys loved to drink quite a lot when they had their BS little free time in Zamboanga...then again, I couldn't blame them. If I were stationed in Basilan fighting everyday for 6 years, I'd be an alcoholic too.

Sendo Takeshi
September 19th, 2008, 11:02 AM
That's not what I'm saying. It's just today that's almost the first thing that comes to mind.

No, that's what's called an 'assumption'.

A$$+u+me.

ZSYigadar
September 19th, 2008, 12:19 PM
Between the U.S. economy and now internal strife in Mexico, I got a bad feeling about the world.

/in before Bernard says "welcome to reality"

I don't, as long as the sun in the sky has a smile on it's face.

I'll give y'all an update as soon as the smog clears...>_<