ADV Films & Hurricane Ike [Archive]

Leader Desslock

September 15th, 2008, 01:29 PM

^^ Relax, I'm sure he's fine. He probably just left early to be with the family. There might be a little water damage, but he probably has a number he can call. I'm sure it won't take any time at all for him to put the For Sale sign back up.

I'm referring, of course, to the security guard who drives by the empty building to make sure it's okay. It's not like he has to go inside to check on the office furniture, because they sold it (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-06-26/adv-films-to-auction-surplus-office-supplies).

ZeroRyoko1974

September 15th, 2008, 01:30 PM

We can neither confirm nor deny that adv is still alive after the storm. Actually thats not a change from before the hurricane

YuriFanboy

September 15th, 2008, 01:38 PM

We can neither confirm nor deny that adv is still alive after the storm. Actually thats not a change from before the hurricane

This comment is just about the only comment I can agree with in this thread. I really hope ADV can pull through. One less distributor means a lot less anime available in the US.

ArcaJ

September 15th, 2008, 06:12 PM

When I was in college, I was so excited o learn that ADV was based in my hometown. I even tried to get an internship. (they weren't biting) Now...

Let it be known that I'm shamed that ADV Films is based in Texas. *Gets ready to fight Toby Kieth*

::HUGS::

Arca Jeth

VidelCoolGirl

September 15th, 2008, 06:27 PM

I hope only ADV is okay, and Not Sushikins who got hit by it, and you know, ALL the people without power.

CrossboneGundam

September 16th, 2008, 12:26 AM

This just occured to me: ADV Films is headquartered in or near Houston which took a big hit over the weekend from Hurricane Ike. Does anyone know what happened to them?

This is the sort of thing that makes me sigh audibly, Al Gore style.

superplough

September 16th, 2008, 02:37 AM

This thread makes me cry simply because ADV have the license to Yotsubato and volume 6 will never see the light of day :crybaby:

J Dude

September 16th, 2008, 09:22 AM

I liked ADV, man, but they're dead. YOU GOTTA MOVE ON.

As unfortunate as that is, that's the case. Unless ADV is planning to do something to put their feet back on the ground, but at a snail's pace at this rate. Slow and steady wins the race? Not really I think... Then again, I never paid much attention to the Tortoise and the Hare.

One less distributor means a lot less anime available in the US.

Very true for the most part, but since it seems like ADV hasn't released hardly anything in the past year, it just doesn't really seem like a big loss. I guess because it already seems like they're dead and sort of shock one could get from knowing such a thing has already went over my head at this point. It seems like Funimation is releasing more than ever. Now if only Funimation didn't have all those stupid problems with the stickers tearing the DVD covers when you open their DVDs and their poor video encoding jobs...

Jon

September 16th, 2008, 09:46 AM

I hope only ADV is okay, and Not Sushikins who got hit by it, and you know, ALL the people without power.
Having no power was fun. I just got power back around 12 pm today, haven't had it since 3 pm Friday, and it was just hilarious seeing all the chaos. PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE 4 WAY STOP RULE and everyone was filling up on gas. Plus, the select few restaurants that were open (Panera and Chipotle) were packed beyond belief. :lol:

What did I do? Gathered up a bunch of friends and played Rugby. That's what we did, and at night I played Pokemon Red while eating a candle-lit dinner.

It was awesome.

YuriFanboy

September 16th, 2008, 10:19 AM

Very true for the most part, but since it seems like ADV hasn't released hardly anything in the past year, it just doesn't really seem like a big loss. I guess because it already seems like they're dead and sort of shock one could get from knowing such a thing has already went over my head at this point. It seems like Funimation is releasing more than ever. Now if only Funimation didn't have all those stupid problems with the stickers tearing the DVD covers when you open their DVDs and their poor video encoding jobs...

It hasn't been that long since ADV was releasing stuff. It was only at the beginning of the year that the Sojitz problems began to surface. I wouldn't be surprised if ADV dies, but I'm not giving up hope yet. As for Funi, I'm not really a fan of them. In addition to the poor encoding, they don't license anything I want. In the last year or two, Funi licensed so many series. I was excited for about one, I think. It seems like all Funi licenses are action shows. I'm more into drama and romance kind of shows. ADV would license those kind of shows more often than Funi. I doubt two of my favorite shows (Air and Kanon) would be licensed if it wasn't for ADV.

Caster13

September 16th, 2008, 11:10 AM

I guess there's not gonna be any more eva re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-releases.

Sendo Takeshi

September 16th, 2008, 11:20 AM

Ike *****slapped Houston pretty hard. Maybe it was Ike Turner's spirit in that hurricane.

And yeah, lol @ the ADV comments. So true. Hopefully, they'll never return.

The Million Dollar Prons

September 16th, 2008, 11:31 AM

This thread makes me cry simply because ADV have the license to Yotsubato and volume 6 will never see the light of day :crybaby:

It's seeing the light of day it's just hard to see it when you're 10 feet under water

YuriFanboy

September 16th, 2008, 12:01 PM

And yeah, lol @ the ADV comments. So true. Hopefully, they'll never return.

You hope people lose their jobs? That's real nice:rolleyes:

Out of curiosity, why the negativity towards ADV? They put out higher quality products than other companies.

J Dude

September 16th, 2008, 12:32 PM

Out of curiosity, why the negativity towards ADV? They put out higher quality products than other companies.

I don't really have anything against ADV, but they screwed up pretty bad. I'm not really sure what the whole deal with them losing so many licenses and stuff was, but didn't they overdo it with the amount of stuff they licensed or something and thus lost a lot of money from it? Not that everyone is perfect and incapable of making mistakes.

YuriFanboy

September 16th, 2008, 12:46 PM

I don't really have anything against ADV, but they screwed up pretty bad. I'm not really sure what the whole deal with them losing so many licenses and stuff was, but didn't they overdo it with the amount of stuff they licensed or something and thus lost a lot of money from it? Not that everyone is perfect and incapable of making mistakes.
It may not have been their fault that they lost the licenses. Basically, a company called Sojitz bailed ADV out several years ago when ADV was having trouble. ADV and Sojitz entered into an agreement where Sojitz would buy the licenses for shows for ADV. ADV would then do all the work on them. For unknown reasons, Sojitz bailed on ADV and took the licenses with them. To answer you're question, yes, ADV did license too much and flood the market before they entered into the deal with Sojitz. Another mistake was they tried to capitalize on the anime boom and expanded way too much. They created a CD label, Newtype, ADV Manga, the Anime Network, and they had their DVD line. Most of these projects failed because the bubble burst. They took a gamble, but it didn't pay off. Anyways, I really don't see the reason for the hatred of ADV prevalent on this forum. It really boggles my mind. This debacle may not have even been their fault. Also, they have put out great products for years. I just don't see what's to hate about them. The negativity comment wasn't directed at you by the way. You've been very fair.

J Dude

September 16th, 2008, 12:54 PM

Anyways, I really don't see the reason for the hatred of ADV prevalent on this forum. It really boggles my mind. This debacle may not have even been their fault. Also, they have put out great products for years. I just don't see what's to hate about them. The negativity comment wasn't directed at you by the way. You've been very fair.

I honestly don't really see why so many people just want them to die anyways. I also thought their releases were good.

Bernard_Monsha

September 16th, 2008, 12:56 PM

Out of curiosity, why the negativity towards ADV? They put out higher quality products than other companies.

Have you ever ordered from them? I did once, it took me 5 months to get my stuff I paid for. I was told it shipped no less than ten times and ended up having to go pick it up myself. So yeah ADV sucks.

YuriFanboy

September 16th, 2008, 01:01 PM

Have you ever ordered from them? I did once, it took me 5 months to get my stuff I paid for. I was told it shipped no less than ten times and ended up having to go pick it up myself. So yeah ADV sucks.

I've never ordered from them before. I also don't know how their service is. However, the fact remains that ADV put out quality products. If their online store was really that bad, then order from somewhere else. I'd take a company that puts out a quality product but has sub-par online store over a company that puts out DVDs that don't work (Bandai) or a company that has terrible encodes (Funi).

Sendo Takeshi

September 16th, 2008, 01:03 PM

You hope people lose their jobs? That's real nice:rolleyes:

Out of curiosity, why the negativity towards ADV? They put out higher quality products than other companies.

ADV sucks. Plain and simple. They don't release anything on time. They're not a good company at all. And they were mid-tier at best when it came to quality. Bandai was and still is better.

And yeah, they were going to lose their jobs, anyway. They weren't doing that well and they lost Gurren Lagann. GGPO, ADV.

In conclusion, they suck.

I'd take a company that puts out a quality product but has sub-par online store over a company that puts out DVDs that don't work (Bandai) or a company that has terrible encodes (Funi).

What Bandai DVDs didn't work? I've purchased faulty ADV discs in the past(FMP vol.2) and have yet to encounter any problems with Bandai releases.

And regarding Funimation: They've stepped it up in the past few years. Meanwhile, ADV stepped it down(much like their sales figures).

EDIT - The fact that you're throwing a girly fit over this is pretty hilarious. Keep responding and entertain me. I'm bored as is.

J Dude

September 16th, 2008, 01:10 PM

What Bandai DVDs didn't work? I've purchased faulty ADV discs in the past(FMP vol.2) and have yet to encounter any problems with Bandai releases.

There was a whole big thing of a lot of people getting faulty Zeta Gundam discs when they were first releasing it. Then there's been people on the AnimeonDVD forums complaining about the subbed Gurren Lagann discs being faulty and then I've heard people complaining about some of the Code Geass discs being faulty. To be honest though, I've been lucky enough to not have any problems with any of Bandai Entertainment's DVDs.

EDIT - The fact that you're throwing a girly fit over this is pretty hilarious. Keep responding and entertain me. I'm bored as is.

Seems like YuriFanboy is being pretty normal about it to me actually. Seems like you're just picking on him.

YuriFanboy

September 16th, 2008, 01:14 PM

ADV sucks. Plain and simple. They don't release anything on time. They're not a good company at all. And they were mid-tier at best when it came to quality. Bandai was and still is better.
Bandai can't even put out DVDs that work. Also, ADV did put out their stuff on time. I don't recall ADV putting out late releases any more than other companies. I buy a ton of DVDs. I would know;)

And yeah, they were going to lose their jobs, anyway. They weren't doing that well and they lost Gurren Lagann. GGPO, ADV.
They lost GL. I'm sure that hurts, but I doubt it will be as much of a hit as some people believe. ADV may go under. They haven't yet. Either way, it's still mean-spirited to wish that a company goes under simply because you don't like them.

What Bandai DVDs didn't work? I've purchased faulty ADV discs in the past(FMP vol.2) and have yet to encounter any problems with Bandai releases.
Bandai has had replicator problems for years. This year alone there were bad copies of Code Geass, Gurren Laggan, My-Otome, and more. I can look up which ones they were specifically if you want.

And regarding Funimation: They've stepped it up in the past few years. Meanwhile, ADV stepped it down(much like their sales figures).
Funimation is doing well. I won't argue. However, they also pretty much only license action shows which not everyone is a huge fan of. They also have terrible encoding if you care about high quality releases.
EDIT - The fact that you're throwing a girly fit over this is pretty hilarious. Keep responding and entertain me. I'm bored as is.
:lol: I'm not throwing a fit. I'm simply trying to be the voice of reason in this ADV bashing thread:P

HSaabedra

September 16th, 2008, 01:18 PM

ADV sucks. Plain and simple. They don't release anything on time. They're not a good company at all. And they were mid-tier at best when it came to quality. Bandai was and still is better.

And yeah, they were going to lose their jobs, anyway. They weren't doing that well and they lost Gurren Lagann. GGPO, ADV.

In conclusion, they suck.

Pretty much the truth here.

What Bandai DVDs didn't work? I've purchased faulty ADV discs in the past(FMP vol.2) and have yet to encounter any problems with Bandai releases.

And regarding Funimation: They've stepped it up in the past few years. Meanwhile, ADV stepped it down(much like their sales figures).

EDIT - The fact that you're throwing a girly fit over this is pretty hilarious. Keep responding and entertain me. I'm bored as is.

I'm inclined to believe the majority of people that reported problems with Bandai DVD's made up less than 1% of the entire shipment of DVDs. It also strikes me as odd that almost all of the core fans would be having issues with discs ordered from online merchants, but B&M copies remain unaffected.

I'm surprised people still give a damn about ADV. They screwed up big time and can't use reality distortion anymore. Why people still look at them as an underdog baffles me since its a business above all else. Matt and John don't care about fans as much as they care about making as much money as possible at the expense of others.

J Dude

September 16th, 2008, 01:22 PM

They also have terrible encoding if you care about high quality releases.

Aside from their Dragonball franchise DVDs and their earlier Fullmetal Alchemist DVDs, which all had macroblocking to some extent, I'd love to see screencaps comparisons of some of their other shows from the Funimation R1 DVD release next to the Japanese R2 DVD release, just out of curosity really. As for a really terrible Funimation encoding job...

http://www.animenation.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6444978&postcount=8

YuriFanboy

September 16th, 2008, 01:23 PM

I'm inclined to believe the majority of people that reported problems with Bandai DVD's made up less than 1% of the entire shipment of DVDs. It also strikes me as odd that almost all of the core fans would be having issues with discs ordered from online merchants, but B&M copies remain unaffected.
I'm not sure about the others but almost all if not all of the Code Geass DVDs were affected. Also, copies from brick and mortar stores were indeed affected. Where did you hear that this was only a problem for online merchants?

I'm surprised people still give a damn about ADV. They screwed up big time and can't use reality distortion anymore. Why people still look at them as an underdog baffles me since its a business above all else. Matt and John don't care about fans as much as they care about making as much money as possible at the expense of others.
I care about them because I care about anime in R1. The more companies there are means the more anime there is for me to buy. ADV didn't do anything to me as a consumer to make me dislike them.

HSaabedra

September 16th, 2008, 01:25 PM

Funimation is doing well. I won't argue. However, they also pretty much only license action shows which not everyone is a huge fan of. They also have terrible encoding if you care about high quality releases.

You reek of fanboyism here.

Action shows are one of the reasons they're as successful as they are, and judging by the fact that Afro Samurai is a top seller, that trend isn't changing anytime soon.

Kanon and Air doesn't sell like DBZ and Burst Angel.

As far as your comment on video quality, go look at Witchblade. The show got an anamorphic transfer from HD D5 tape and hits 9mbps regularly. The same goes for any major show not being released in sets, since they've really stepped up their in house video production facilities in the Flower Mound headquarters.

YuriFanboy

September 16th, 2008, 01:28 PM

You reek of fanboyism here.

Action shows are one of the reasons they're as successful as they are, and judging by the fact that Afro Samurai is a top seller, that trend isn't changing anytime soon.

Kanon and Air doesn't sell like DBZ and Burst Angel.
I won't argue that action shows sell. However, why should I care as a consumer? I don't really care about those shows. ADV licensed more shows I care about. Hence, I like ADV a lot better. I was only speaking for myself there.

As far as your comment on video quality, go look at Witchblade. The show got an anamorphic transfer from HD D5 tape and hits 9mbps regularly. The same goes for any major show not being released in sets, since they've really stepped up their in house video production facilities in the Flower Mound headquarters.
I know that they've gotten a lot better, but some releases are still sub-par.

HSaabedra

September 16th, 2008, 01:31 PM

I'm not sure about the others but almost all if not all of the Code Geass DVDs were affected. Also, copies from brick and mortar stores were indeed affected. Where did you hear that this was only a problem for online merchants?

Almost all of the complaints were sampled from online retail purchases, and Best Buy didn't hit the return rates required for a company wide stock pull.

I care about them because I care about anime in R1. The more companies there are means the more anime there is for me to buy. ADV didn't do anything to me as a consumer to make me dislike them.

You really sure about that? It's already been demonstrated that more companies=less anime since less leverage is available for distributors to negotiate on contract terms.

My LE copies of Code Geass and GL play just fine by the way.

After ADV decided on the idiocy of three episodes per DVD on Gantz and 5 on Gravion I just decided to stop buying their DVDs and go after R2 DVD sets for the shows that they licensed.

YuriFanboy

September 16th, 2008, 01:41 PM

Almost all of the complaints were sampled from online retail purchases, and Best Buy didn't hit the return rates required for a company wide stock pull.
I'm basing what I said from what I've read. I know at the very least that brick and mortar copies were affected as well as online stores.
You really sure about that? It's already been demonstrated that more companies=less anime since less leverage is available for distributors to negotiate on contract terms.
True, but isn't competition good for the consumer? Also, I think I should clarify something. I care about the health of the industry, but I also care about my own interests. I want a healthy industry that releases more of what I want. Right now, we have an unhealthy industry that releases less of what I want than it did before.
My LE copies of Code Geass and GL play just fine by the way.
Good. I'm glad yours worked:) I canceled mine
After ADV decided on the idiocy of three episodes per DVD on Gantz and 5 on Gravion I just decided to stop buying their DVDs and go after R2 DVD sets for the shows that they licensed.
Every company does some things that make people mad. Heck, I'm ticked off that Funi/Geneon released the Shana OVA only in the thinpack. I also know people are upset that they won't finish Pumpkin Scissors as singles.

I have to go to work. I'm sure I'll have a lot to respond to when I get home:lol:

Sendo Takeshi

September 16th, 2008, 01:55 PM

I buy a ton of DVDs. I would know;)

I do, too. AND I buy Blu-ray. Your point?

Bandai has had replicator problems for years. This year alone there were bad copies of Code Geass, Gurren Laggan, My-Otome, and more. I can look up which ones they were specifically if you want.

My Gurren Lagann plays perfectly AND it looks pretty good with the PS3 upscaler. There were also talks of Eureka Seven volume 10 having problems, but I still managed to get a working copy. Hmmmmm............

Tidusauron12

September 16th, 2008, 01:57 PM

This is retarded... it's not like Hurricane Ike was a major hurricane. If the companies HQ can't withstand a category 2 hurricane, then it needs to be disrupted.

EDIT: I'm just being a jackass. Disregard my post. :lol:

VidelCoolGirl

September 16th, 2008, 02:56 PM

Rurouni Saiyan

September 16th, 2008, 02:59 PM

Needless to say, ADV has dropped the ball. I was getting into series like Devil May Cry and Tokyo Majin. Then ADV just fell off the map with these series.

Funimation been running strong for some time and Bandai's strong too.

Sendo Takeshi

September 16th, 2008, 03:28 PM

This thread has become about ADV and how much they suck/rule. The DVDs are going to be fine, and what about the actual PEOPLE rather than these material products we can just buy friggin online, and from Ebay?

If Planet Zero wasn't destroyed in the process, then Ike may have failed me. God, I hate that arcade. Needs to blow up.

superplough

September 16th, 2008, 03:32 PM

What did I do? Gathered up a bunch of friends and played Rugby. That's what we did, and at night I played Pokemon Red while eating a candle-lit dinner.

It was awesome.

Oh wow do you ever rock.

It's seeing the light of day it's just hard to see it when you're 10 feet under water

LOL :lol:

VidelCoolGirl

September 16th, 2008, 03:32 PM

If Planet Zero wasn't destroyed in the process, then Ike may have failed me. God, I hate that arcade. Needs to blow up.

I dunno, it just seems like people are thinking too much about this. There were houses hit by it, and nothing happened aside from miniscule damage. I talked to Sushikins who was hit by it, and only his fence was really affected. If houses can stand, so can a giant *** concrete building. People are acting like its the end of the anime world. Aside from some delay, ADV wouldn't go under from this.

Hey, better than the arcades here. I mean, there aren't ANY in Olymipia. Chuck E. Cheeses doesn't count.

The Million Dollar Prons

September 16th, 2008, 03:43 PM

Chuck E. Cheeses doesn't count.

Says WHO?!

VidelCoolGirl

September 16th, 2008, 03:49 PM

Says WHO?!

Any arcade where you get in trouble for clotheslining a kid is NOT an arcade.

Jon

September 16th, 2008, 03:52 PM

I was always too afraid to hug Chucky. He was BIG and SCARY.

The Million Dollar Prons

September 16th, 2008, 03:52 PM

Any arcade where you get in trouble for clotheslining a kid is NOT an arcade.

I close lined a kid because he tried to steal my tokens.

THey tried to put me in the time out pin or whatever but I was a tall kid so I just stepped over it

VidelCoolGirl

September 16th, 2008, 04:15 PM

I close lined a kid because he tried to steal my tokens.

THey tried to put me in the time out pin or whatever but I was a tall kid so I just stepped over it

I'd get beaten. Besides, the one here sucks. Its in a mall and hella small. Too many ****** little kids prancing around. Although, I'd go in there just to beat up small kids.

superplough

September 16th, 2008, 04:25 PM

This reminds me of that "How many 5 year olds could you beat in a fight" thread.

YuriFanboy

September 16th, 2008, 06:50 PM

I do, too. AND I buy Blu-ray. Your point?
My only point was I'm kind of obsessive about anime. I keep track of DVD releases on various sites. I know what is released early, what is released late, and what is released on time. Maybe my memory is fuzzy, but I don't recall ADV having late releases more than any other company.

My Gurren Lagann plays perfectly AND it looks pretty good with the PS3 upscaler. There were also talks of Eureka Seven volume 10 having problems, but I still managed to get a working copy. Hmmmmm............
What's there to "Hmmmmm......" about? People have had a lot of problems with Bandai releases. Just because you got working copies doesn't mean it wasn't a problem. You want a link?

Caster13

September 16th, 2008, 08:18 PM

Any arcade where you get in trouble for clotheslining a kid is NOT an arcade.

I'm sorry, you lost me there. What are you talking about?

J Dude

September 16th, 2008, 08:54 PM

And regarding Funimation: They've stepped it up in the past few years.

Now if only you could say that and mean that for the way they've treated Dragonball Z. The only thing they've stepped it up into with the way they've treated the show and it's hardcore fans with these so called remastered sets they're releasing is by stepping it up into a big pile of crap.

Jon

September 16th, 2008, 08:56 PM

I should get Dragon Ball Z for free. Too lazy to pay for them anymore, especially when they just axe the release and start another one.

Seems like the "re-mastered" season boxsets are working out for them though.;)

J Dude

September 16th, 2008, 09:00 PM

Seems like the "re-mastered" season boxsets are working out for them though.;)

Unfortunately true. Either people just don't care and will take what they can get, more so those who are just ignorant of buying other releases from around the world or downloading it. Then you have the causal people who just might totally be ignorant of the lies Funimation put into that release and everything that's really wrong with it.