September 11 2001 - Seven years ago

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Seven years ago, right about this time, the september 11th attacks took place.

I just thought I'd make a thread about it, ya know, just so we can take a moment to remember what happened on that day. I just can't believe it's been seven years already.

[throughhim413]

Goodness, it's hard to believe it's really been seven years. I remember people saying things like "you will always remember where you were the morning of September 11th" after it happened. I don't think I really understood what that meant at the time, but now, remembering that morning like it was yesterday, I can start to see what they meant.

[Cow]

My friends birthday is today, it totally blows.

[MirKz]

Almost feels like it were yesterday.... surprising how fast it's gone by since that day..

[superplough]

Holy crap, that's right. Wow.. seven years... that day certainly changed the world.

[Old Ape Face]

Social Studies, Sophomore year, come to think about it I feel old knowing that.

[fujyoshi]

This mess is eating up the tv wit all that depressing crap. Man I'd get shunned out 'a NY for saying that but still x-x like people really need ta be reminded that there family died today seven years ago and what not

[Old Ape Face]

This mess is eating up the tv wit all that depressing crap. Man I'd get shunned out 'a NY for saying that but still x-x like people really need ta be reminded that there family died today seven years ago and what not

Wow that's kind of harsh to say ain't it? I mean people's lives tend to last a long time and when they die (especially in a moment like 911) people like to remember their family and stuff?

[fujyoshi]

/sigh I figured most would say its harsh but what I mean is they know there relatives are dead why would they wanna be reminded every single year. I mean it maybe 9/11 and all that but if they had a big reminder for everytime someone died it would be a mess. I mean I have nothing against because I went to school wit people who were very worried about there parents and stuff and whatever that day, but its like why remind?

[taily]

Wow...I was five at the time...saw it happen live.

[Old Ape Face]

/sigh I figured most would say its harsh but what I mean is they know there relatives are dead why would they wanna be reminded every single year. I mean it maybe 9/11 and all that but if they had a big reminder for everytime someone died it would be a mess. I mean I have nothing against because I went to school wit people who were very worried about there parents and stuff and whatever that day, but its like why remind?

People still remember Pearl Harbor, even though the generation kind of came and went, there is still a memorial about it.

Think about all the wars we've had in the past century. They have built a memorial for each one. I'm sure people who are related to people who've died in those wars go back to reflect upon it, perhaps not on the anniversary date, but eventually they do.

It is a big deal to those people who where left without parents or relatives that suddenly disappeared in a few short hours, unexpectedly. I don't have anyone that died on 911, but I do give sympathy for those that did becuase I'm respectful.

There is one thing I know about people, injuries and broken hearts will mend over time possibly in a short time, but the death of someone you lived with someone you looked up to, or cared about the memory will take a long time to heal.

Also the buildings them selves, I personally took a trip to the Twin Towers about a year before 911, and when I saw those plains crash into them on screen, I thought it was all an act like a Hollywood hoax or something. I haven't been back there since, but the shock of being on those towers when the plains hit made me feel very very small.

That also just happened to be the year my Grandfather passed away about 2 month prior, so even if I didn't lose anyone to the towers I did lose someone I could probably look up to today.

[Lacan]

Not to sound harsh and cold hearted but they need to stop selling 9/11 every year. We don't need to be reminded especially since it gave Bush an excuse to go to war which caused even more damage in a useless war due to so few involved with the 9/11 incident. We have dead soldiers because of it, and more people are dying every day. Its a domino effect that needs to stop.

Politicians are using 9/11 as a weapon and it makes me sick. It will be the year 2020 and they will still use it, unless of course people wake up by then.

Yes 9/11 was a horrible day, and my heart goes out to all those that lost their love ones due to it. But don't you think its opening old wounds if they keep advertising this in America to them? For example I don't want to be reminded every year that my grandfather died or quite a few of my love ones died a few years back and have them remind me every year. Just like Princess Diana's death, they don't need to advertise it and make it painful for the family members.

[Old Ape Face]

Not to sound harsh and cold hearted but they need to stop selling 9/11 every year. We don't need to be reminded especially since it gave Bush an excuse to go to war which caused even more damage in a useless war due to so few involved with the 9/11 incident.

Politicians are using 9/11 as a weapon and it makes me sick. It will be the year 2020 and they will still use it, unless of course people wake up by then.

Yes 9/11 was a horrible day, and my heart goes out to all those that lost their love ones due to it. But don't you think its opening old wounds if they keep advertising this in America to them? For example I don't want to be reminded every year that my grandfather died or quite a few of my love ones died a few years back and have them remind me every year. Just like Princess Diana's death, they don't need to advertise it and make it painful for the family members.

<_< you know the more you complain about it the worse it's going to hurt right?

Also what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, 911 happened but that was only the very very small tip of an incredibly massive Ice berg, I believe a remembrance is a way to say "is that really your best shot?"

[tenshi_a]

It's not really another "Princess Diana" (yes she's still dead! So is Elvis!), it's more like that tsunami that hit around December/new year a few years back.

I think Rebekah's right that it's bad to dwell on it and force open wounds that were just about healed.

[fujyoshi]

Not to sound harsh and cold hearted but they need to stop selling 9/11 every year. We don't need to be reminded especially since it gave Bush an excuse to go to war which caused even more damage in a useless war due to so few involved with the 9/11 incident. We have dead soldiers because of it, and more people are dying every day. Its a domino effect that needs to stop.

Politicians are using 9/11 as a weapon and it makes me sick. It will be the year 2020 and they will still use it, unless of course people wake up by then.

Yes 9/11 was a horrible day, and my heart goes out to all those that lost their love ones due to it. But don't you think its opening old wounds if they keep advertising this in America to them? For example I don't want to be reminded every year that my grandfather died or quite a few of my love ones died a few years back and have them remind me every year. Just like Princess Diana's death, they don't need to advertise it and make it painful for the family members.

thank you I'm not the only one wit those views

I think Rebekah's right that it's bad to dwell on it and force open wounds that were just about healed.

well atlease I know I'm not being disrespectful =3

[Soluzar]

I remember people saying things like "you will always remember where you were the morning of September 11th" after it happened. I don't think I really understood what that meant at the time, but now, remembering that morning like it was yesterday, I can start to see what they meant.
I know exactly what I was doing for the several hours preceding those events, in full detail. It's shocking just how clearly I can turn back the time in my memory to that specific moment that the reports were aired on TV.

I must agree though that making a media spectacle of the event every year isn't helping those who are in pain as a result of it. The best thing is to allow the wounds to heal.

[Scandiadream]

It has been seven years since that terrible day of infamy.

Remember the heroes, the victims, and the survivors.

May this never ever happen again.

[Haruhi]

I actually agree with Lacan. My heart goes out to the people who lost their lives in the attack but enough is enough already. We're not going to bring the dead back by talking about it. And we're not suddenly more sympathetic people because we choose to acknowledge it every year since. If anything you're making it worse by bringing it up every year.

Get over it. Mourn quietly and don't make such a damn fiasco about it. Because of that, MORE people are dying overseas. It's almost as if you desecrate the memories of those people by sending people out each year to be killed at war/

[Sendo Takeshi]

That was my senior year in high school. The marines tried drafting me in, but failed so hard.

[Magami No ER]

I was Hiroshima on the anniversary of the the drop two years ago. What I saw as a live tribute on TV lasted 45 minutes, early in the morning, and no more. and my host family didn't talk much about it, though I was surprised when they talked about family members who died, for a bit.
Very open minded people (and old couple, you see.), to let Americans into their home on such a day.
But see, I prefer that attitude, one of moving on without forgetting the importance of the people taken away. Not day long memorials that seem very commercialized, in some respects. But, its expected in our society, to push all of the remembering of anything to one day (I'm talking about the general populace, not those more personally affected/involved.)
Maybe if the remembrance was not so tear inducing? Why not profile the people's very lives, in a more positive light? Doesn't happen enough, some would deem that, "inappropriate."

[f2akid]

Wow...I was five at the time...

http://blog.pharmalive.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/o_rly.jpg



On topic: I remember where I was - attending my first day of high school. But it does feel like seven years though, seven years of discrimination for muslims around the globe. It's so bad that even my friends can't resist taking a stab at it every once in a while.

[Bernard_Monsha]

On topic: I remember where I was - attending my first day of high school. But it does feel like seven years though, seven years of discrimination for muslims around the globe. It's so bad that even my friends can't resist taking a stab at it every once in a while.

Ever been to a Muslim majority country and not been a Muslim? This entire "descrimination thing" makes me laugh so hard.

On topic, I still have a simmering rage over this which will never leave. It is the same kind of feeling I have for the Derka Derka crowd about the bombing of the Marines in Beriut or the USS Cole. The only thing that makes me even more enraged is the amount of retard truthers that have cropped up due to the internet.

[Chidori Raikiri]

Not to sound harsh and cold hearted but they need to stop selling 9/11 every year. We don't need to be reminded especially since it gave Bush an excuse to go to war which caused even more damage in a useless war due to so few involved with the 9/11 incident. We have dead soldiers because of it, and more people are dying every day. Its a domino effect that needs to stop.

Politicians are using 9/11 as a weapon and it makes me sick. It will be the year 2020 and they will still use it, unless of course people wake up by then.

Yes 9/11 was a horrible day, and my heart goes out to all those that lost their love ones due to it. But don't you think its opening old wounds if they keep advertising this in America to them? For example I don't want to be reminded every year that my grandfather died or quite a few of my love ones died a few years back and have them remind me every year. Just like Princess Diana's death, they don't need to advertise it and make it painful for the family members.

Exactly my thoughts.

[f2akid]

Ever been to a Muslim majority country and not been a Muslim? This entire "descrimination thing" makes me laugh so hard.

Ever been living in a non-muslim country as a muslim after 9/11? I don't think so. I can't speak for every muslim as I think most of them make a bad name for the religion as a whole in so many ways, however I can vouch for myself and say that I've had to put up with too much discrimination and objection since 9/11, like I said, even from my own friends when I've got nothing to do with all that and neither do I know anyone who does.

[goddessofanime]

/sigh I figured most would say its harsh but what I mean is they know there relatives are dead why would they wanna be reminded every single year. I mean it maybe 9/11 and all that but if they had a big reminder for everytime someone died it would be a mess. I mean I have nothing against because I went to school wit people who were very worried about there parents and stuff and whatever that day, but its like why remind?
Because people want to remember the day the world changed forever.

[Old Ape Face]

That was my senior year in high school. The marines tried drafting me in, but failed so hard.

You mean I'm not the only one they called? :O

As for me it feels like seven years only becuase I've been living it.

But honestly if people want to make a ceremony about this event, let them. Do you mean to tell me that respecting the ones who've lost their family and people they've loved to a group of terrorists in a form that we basically use to do every morning in grade school, (taking a moment of silence, saying the pledge ecs...) is disrespectful to them at the same time?

Seven years might feel like seven years to some people, but to others seven years was yesterday. A time for healing? Personally I don't think it will ever heal. To the people who've been around long enough to understand what those buildings represented every time they look at New York City and see something missing, it will always put a chill in the air.

For me I just look at the news and shrug it off. To me this is no different then Veterans day or Memorial day as a civil service event.

[ZSYigadar]

Because people want to remember the day the world changed forever.

Yep. The day I saved a bunch of money on car insurance by switching to Geico.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Ever been living in a non-muslim country as a muslim after 9/11? I don't think so. I can't speak for every muslim as I think most of them make a bad name for the religion as a whole in so many ways, however I can vouch for myself and say that I've had to put up with too much discrimination and objection since 9/11, like I said, even from my own friends when I've got nothing to do with all that and neither do I know anyone who does.

Oh so you have to hide in your house after friday prayers from rampaning Buddhist intent on making an example of an infidel? Does a family member get shot and you have no leagal recourse because they amount to less than a Christian. No? I think all you get are funny looks, and checking you're bags at the airport. Boo-Hoo

[goddessofanime]

Yep. The day I saved a bunch of money on car insurance by switching to Geico.



ROFL.

Hey did you have the Cavemen or the Gecko?

[superplough]

ITT: Americans need to calm down.

[Sendo Takeshi]

You mean I'm not the only one they called? :O


Yeah, you're not the only one. But being a minority probably guaranteed me frontline status. I was already being fitted for a uniform and whatnot. I told the guy 'no thanks' because breathing is an essential hobby of mines.

[f2akid]

Oh so you have to hide in your house after friday prayers from rampaning Buddhist intent on making an example of an infidel? Does a family member get shot and you have no leagal recourse because they amount to less than a Christian. No? I think all you get are funny looks, and checking you're bags at the airport. Boo-Hoo

Whoa cowboy, two different pages here. You've had your experiences and I've had mine. It's not a contest of who's had it worse mate. To give you one example I got jumped on a bus by about 6 guys way older than me and had beer poured all over me afterwards with things related to this, that's just me mind you never mind members of my family who've been through much worse than I can imagine. For example one of my cousins got searched at an airport in Saudi Arabia about four years ago and was caught with smuggled narcotics that weren't even his (set-up), and because the law there is different he was executed. Many (young) members of my family have died since 9/11 for completely bogus reasons, I'm not saying it was all to do with 9/11 but I'm just trying to say what the world has come to since then. Not trying to compete at all but I don't tend to take it personally, I blame the muslims out there making a **** name for us all. Don't be too judgemental and *gasp* dare I say objectifying.

[superplough]

ITT: Americans need to calm down.

fillerrrrrrrrr

[Hara!]

I'm tired of hearing about 9/11.

Let's talk about something else. Like the day American Idol came on.

[Old Ape Face]

Yeah, you're not the only one. But being a minority probably guaranteed me frontline status. I was already being fitted for a uniform and whatnot. I told the guy 'no thanks' because breathing is an essential hobby of mines.

my one and only excuse? Asthma.

Not only is it true but they hung up as soon as I said that :P

[Soluzar]

my one and only excuse? Asthma.

Not only is it true but they hung up as soon as I said that :P

What makes you think you needed to say anything other than 'not interested' to them, if you don't want to serve? America hasn't had a draft, to the best of my knowledge, in your lifetime. If you ask me it's better that way. At least now the people who serve are those who feel the desire to serve... aren't they likely to be better at the job?

[Bernard_Monsha]

Don't be too judgemental and *gasp* dare I say objectifying.


No you are coming on here *****ing and moaning about how evil America is opressing poor innocent Muslims who are the "real victims" then trying to back peddle and quantify because you got called on it. This is the same kind of crap that happens on Veterans day when you have people calling us baby murderers and generally turning a solemn occasion into a side show because anonymity lets them.


I'm tired of hearing about 9/11.

Let's talk about something else. Like the day American Idol came on.

I am already tired of the election.

[Old Ape Face]

What makes you think you needed to say anything other than 'not interested' to them, if you don't want to serve? America hasn't had a draft, to the best of my knowledge, in your lifetime. If you ask me it's better that way. At least now the people who serve are those who feel the desire to serve... aren't they likely to be better at the job?

Ah, I see you haven't been called up by a US Marine, they wont stop after a polite "No Thank You", they will keep you on the line until you except, hang up or like I did tell them something they can't except.

After a while I just got really paranoid about who's calling.

It is not a pure draft where they force anyone who can fight into it, but they're really pushy about it.

[f2akid]

No you are coming on here *****ing and moaning about how evil America is opressing poor innocent Muslims who are the "real victims" then trying to back peddle and quantify because you got called on it.

At which point did I mention America? You got your little love story with your country but if you would look at my location it says 'London'. And I never said anyone's oppressing anyone, simply that **** got harder for me after 9/11.

[Tuna]

The Army/Marines call pretty much every 18 year-old male right after they mail in their Selective Service Registration card...it's not something they did especially for 9/11...you just happened to turn 18 around that time...
XD

...and I totally forgot that today was 9/11 until I started checking my forums and saw all of the threads...
o.o

[Sendo Takeshi]

What makes you think you needed to say anything other than 'not interested' to them, if you don't want to serve? America hasn't had a draft, to the best of my knowledge, in your lifetime. If you ask me it's better that way. At least now the people who serve are those who feel the desire to serve... aren't they likely to be better at the job?

Yeah, they don't take politely to the 'not interested' excuse. They'll find any way to get you in. Dude called me stupid for not serving. I laughed at him and was like "I got better things to do than take a bullet."

[Rurouni Saiyan]

Yeah, they don't take politely to the 'not interested' excuse. They'll find any way to get you in. Dude called me stupid for not serving. I laughed at him and was like "I got better things to do than take a bullet."

Try parrying :P

(filler)

[Haruhi]

At which point did I mention America? You got your little love story with your country but if you would look at my location it says 'London'. And I never said anyone's oppressing anyone, simply that **** got harder for me after 9/11.

And it sucks that it happened to you, but don't expect a shoulder to cry on from us.

People will never always be objective about everything. Crap like 911 give everyone excuse to hate on somebody.

[Ridley-X4]

In before "Jews did 9/11".

[Old Ape Face]

In before "Jews did 9/11".

In before Bush did 9/11

[Justinian]

Not to sound harsh and cold hearted but they need to stop selling 9/11 every year. We don't need to be reminded especially since it gave Bush an excuse to go to war which caused even more damage in a useless war due to so few involved with the 9/11 incident. We have dead soldiers because of it, and more people are dying every day. Its a domino effect that needs to stop.

Politicians are using 9/11 as a weapon and it makes me sick. It will be the year 2020 and they will still use it, unless of course people wake up by then.

Yes 9/11 was a horrible day, and my heart goes out to all those that lost their love ones due to it. But don't you think its opening old wounds if they keep advertising this in America to them? For example I don't want to be reminded every year that my grandfather died or quite a few of my love ones died a few years back and have them remind me every year. Just like Princess Diana's death, they don't need to advertise it and make it painful for the family members.

I completely agree. Casting of all my conspiracies aside, I took about couple of seconds to mourn the innocent lives that were lost to this terrible incident.

[RecentMidget]

The Army/Marines call pretty much every 18 year-old male right after they mail in their Selective Service Registration card...it's not something they did especially for 9/11...you just happened to turn 18 around that time...
XD

...and I totally forgot that today was 9/11 until I started checking my forums and saw all of the threads...
o.o


I also forgot it was 9/11.:P

and true story, I registrated online, two seconds later, guess who called. I told them Iz gots teh asthma and they apologized for wasting my time. I never felt so advantageous about having asthma in my life. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Old Ape Face]

I also forgot it was 9/11.:P

and true story, I registrated online, two seconds later, guess who called. I told them Iz gots teh asthma and they apologized for wasting my time. I never felt so advantageous about having asthma in my life. :lol: :lol: :lol:

was that for realz?

[ZSYigadar]

In before "Jews did 9/11".

This was a lot funnier when I first read it as "Jaws did 9/11".

Oh well.

(Okay now I want a photo shop picture that illustrates the above...)

[Depression]

Not to sound harsh and cold hearted but they need to stop selling 9/11 every year. We don't need to be reminded especially since it gave Bush an excuse to go to war which caused even more damage in a useless war due to so few involved with the 9/11 incident. We have dead soldiers because of it, and more people are dying every day. Its a domino effect that needs to stop.

Politicians are using 9/11 as a weapon and it makes me sick. It will be the year 2020 and they will still use it, unless of course people wake up by then.

Yes 9/11 was a horrible day, and my heart goes out to all those that lost their love ones due to it. But don't you think its opening old wounds if they keep advertising this in America to them? For example I don't want to be reminded every year that my grandfather died or quite a few of my love ones died a few years back and have them remind me every year. Just like Princess Diana's death, they don't need to advertise it and make it painful for the family members.

Its all about perception. I don't see the justification in ignoring what happened on 9/11 because of the events that followed. The two don't have to coincide with one another.

If all of these dedicated segments on the news was about justifying the war in Iraq, would we really expect anybody other than Fox News to air such programming? I mean really, people have disapproved of this war for majority of its lifespan by now and we haven't pulled out. Its clear that the Government doesn't need the public's approval, so why would they try to sell us anything?

People handle death differently. You mention how you don't want to be reminded of your grandfather's death every year, thats fine, but I'm willing to assume you're in the minority. Have you ever looked at a cemetery? The burial sites are decorated with flowers by those who want to remember.

Is it painful, of course it is. But there are people that would prefer to never forget, rather than avoid.

About Princess Diana. I think its obvious family members are disgusted when networks air garbage like "what really happened" or "was it a cover up", but I find it awfully hard to believe they despise segments that remember who she was and celebrate her accomplishments.

Bush and the war in Iraq have nothing to do with honoring and remembering the people that died that day.

[RecentMidget]

was that for realz?

okay...the timing might have been exagerated(sp?) a little, but it was definately within thirty minutes of my registration. and they actually did apologize for wasting my time. I kept saying no for like two minutes and they actually asked 'why don't you want to join?' So I told them I could'nt because of my asthma (or miasma as I like to call it.) and they apologized. I think it was because I was so nice to them...^_^

[Raziel_MGS]

oh man, im glad i dont live in england, you guys are getting sharia law to overturn british law and trump it in many cases, I know you guys like to stone your infidel wives, but make sure to keep that stuff over there ok?

[superplough]

This was a lot funnier when I first read it as "Jaws did 9/11".

Oh well.

(Okay now I want a photo shop picture that illustrates the above...)

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/b/b1/Sharkplane.jpg

[Leader Desslock]

^ Now THAT's an effective terror attack. Imagine seeing that flying over our cities. It wouldn't even have to hit anything. It would just have to fly round in big circles making a loud "nom, nom, nom" sound with tuba music in the background.

Note: It would be even better with the Sinistar voice. A giant mechanized flying passenger shark shouting "Cower, mortals!" would strike terror into every living thing on Earth.

[ZSYigadar]

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/b/b1/Sharkplane.jpg

Yes.

black and white people

[Soluzar]

oh man, im glad i dont live in england, you guys are getting sharia law to overturn british law and trump it in many cases, I know you guys like to stone your infidel wives, but make sure to keep that stuff over there ok?
What? No. Some idiot suggested that might be a good idea, but he is in no position to implement his ridiculous ideas. Gordon Brown came out and said it was not going to happen pretty soon after the Archbishop(!) suggested it.

We have some insane people here, but Sharia law? No. Not going to happen in my lifetime.

[tenshi_a]

We already have some Sharia courts...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7238890.stm

Like we have some courts for other faiths too (Jewish... and I forget what else...)

They only deal with minor things and I don't think it overrules British Law...

[Soluzar]

They only deal with minor things and I don't think it overrules British Law...
As far as I am aware, it is only legally binding if both parties agree in advance. Anything can be legally binding if you agree in advance. I could set up Soluzar's Court of Biscuitry, and if you agree in advance you would have to accept my rulings on what type of chocolate biscuits to buy. :P

The thing about a divorce is that you don't really need to agree to it in order for it to be legally proper. If one member of a marriage decides to dissolve it, then it's effectively dissolved. In that case, the Sharia court can compel the husband, because he never had a legal recourse in the first place.

[KatayokuのTenshi]

They only deal with minor things and I don't think it overrules British Law...

The principle of Parliamentary sovereignty means neither more nor less than this, namely, that Parliament thus defined has, under the English constitution, the right to make or unmake any law whatever; and, further, that no person or body is recognised by the law of England as having a right to override or set aside the legislation of Parliament.

So... yeah. filler

[Old Ape Face]

okay...the timing might have been exagerated(sp?) a little, but it was definately within thirty minutes of my registration. and they actually did apologize for wasting my time. I kept saying no for like two minutes and they actually asked 'why don't you want to join?' So I told them I could'nt because of my asthma (or miasma as I like to call it.) and they apologized. I think it was because I was so nice to them...^_^

No I was asking if you really did have asthma.

cause well lying wouldn't be good :P

[Caster13]

I also have asthma. and bad allergies in general. Particularly my eyes. Yea, not a good thing when you can't see during a gunfight.

And I plan on dying of NATURAL causes, thank you very much. However I have a lot of people in my family who have been in the military, and I have total respect for those guys. People in the military have a bigger pair of nads than me.

[Leader Desslock]

And I plan on dying of NATURAL causes, thank you very much.
Dying from enemy fire is a natural cause. If someone drops a bomb on your head or fires a chunk of metal through your major organs, it's only natural to die from that.

I think it's a bit unnatural to expect to live after a sniper round goes through the back of your helmet. Even Zombies can't do that.

[f2akid]

And I plan on dying of NATURAL causes, thank you very much.

Sometimes life doesn't quite work out the way we plan.

I think it's a bit unnatural to expect to live after a sniper round goes through the back of your helmet. Even Zombies can't do that.

It's unnatural to live after it but that doesn't mean the cause is natural.

[Sendo Takeshi]

The Army/Marines call pretty much every 18 year-old male right after they mail in their Selective Service Registration card...it's not something they did especially for 9/11...you just happened to turn 18 around that time...
XD

...and I totally forgot that today was 9/11 until I started checking my forums and saw all of the threads...
o.o

I didn't notice this post.

I was called after 9/11 happened. And surprise surprise, I wasn't 18 at the time.

[Old Ape Face]

Sometimes life doesn't quite work out the way we plan.

That is why we have stop signs, and traffic lights, and bridges, and air plains, and Space Shuttles, and rock bands, and universities.

Life needs a plan and a back up plan in case your first plan doesn't go so well. Avoiding the chance to be hit by a bullet is a plan, might not get you anywhere in life, but that's where plans for your future come in.

The thing about Human life is it's like a ruttier on a boat, you can change it's direction whenever there's something obstructing your path, the trick is to look ahead and see what your options are. If somethings blocking your way, either find away around it or use it to your advantage.

There are far more choices in life than going to fight in a battle where you are fighting life or death.

[Caster13]

I think there's only one way to make this thread good. And I mean this. Repeat after me:

AMERICA! **** YEA!!!:ssj:

[superplough]

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j199/superplough/AmericaF---Yeah.jpg

[Caster13]

That is such a bad description of America. Come here for a visit once, it's not like what you get from media sources. But on only three conditions.

1. don't go to California. That state is full of nutjobs, you'll get a bad impression.

2. don't go to the South. You'll get a REALLY bad impression.

3. make sure you come here a good while after Bush is out of office.

[Caster13]

That is such a bad description of America. Come here for a visit once, it's not like what you get from media sources. But on only three conditions.

1. don't go to California. That state is full of nutjobs, you'll get a bad impression.

2. don't go to the South. You'll get a REALLY bad impression.

3. make sure you come here a good while after Bush is out of office.

However, don't plan on watching TV, cause it's absolutely horrible most of the time.

[Old Ape Face]

That is such a bad description of America. Come here for a visit once, it's not like what you get from media sources. But on only three conditions.

1. don't go to California. That state is full of nutjobs, you'll get a bad impression.

2. don't go to the South. You'll get a REALLY bad impression.

3. make sure you come here a good while after Bush is out of office.

Actually if it were me I'd go to all of those places, plus good old New England. just to get a taste of all walks of life that is the United States.

[taily]

I think there's only one way to make this thread good. And I mean this. Repeat after me:

AMERICA! **** YEA!!!:ssj:

I do believe you just ruined a perfectly good thread.

[Sendo Takeshi]

I do believe you just ruined a perfectly good thread.

I agree. AND he double posted. Might as well go double dipping at parties now.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

1. don't go to California. That state is full of nutjobs, you'll get a bad impression.

They tell me I'm the idealic manifestiatino of all things californian, so how can california be bad?

However, don't plan on watching TV, cause it's absolutely horrible most of the time.

Are you drunk?

[goddessofanime]

That is such a bad description of America. Come here for a visit once, it's not like what you get from media sources. But on only three conditions.

1. don't go to California. That state is full of nutjobs, you'll get a bad impression.

2. don't go to the South. You'll get a REALLY bad impression.

3. make sure you come here a good while after Bush is out of office.

However, don't plan on watching TV, cause it's absolutely horrible most of the time.


Stereotype much? :P

Everyone's got their nutjobs. I know plenty of Philadelphians that can fit the stereotype easily and they're in my family.

F**k Bush though. People should come to this country so they do realize that we're not all wackos.

[Old Ape Face]

Stereotype much? :P

Everyone's got their nutjobs. I know plenty of Philadelphians that can fit the stereotype easily and they're in my family.

F**k Bush though. People should come to this country so they do realize that we're not all wackos.

Except Texas <_< :P

[fujyoshi]

/sigh now I know some people here got some sense yet I posted this on my forum well kinda got into it and what not and now I got some people telling me how selfish I am just for stating my opinions.

[Caster13]

Sorry, I was 9/10ths asleep at the time and drifting in and out of a deep coma (not consciousness, full out comatose), which might be similar to drunkenness. Why my head didn't just slam into the keyboard and cause a single letter to go on for all of eternity only to be stopped somewhere along the line by the post length limiter is a mistery. But the America **** yea thing was only to bring some pride for this country into this thread.

[Hara!]

That is why we have stop signs, and traffic lights, and bridges, and air plains, and Space Shuttles, and rock bands, and universities.

Life needs a plan and a back up plan in case your first plan doesn't go so well. Avoiding the chance to be hit by a bullet is a plan, might not get you anywhere in life, but that's where plans for your future come in.

But the universe is ruled by random acts of chaos that cannot be controlled, and stability is just an illusion of the human mind. Men can, will, and have chosen to ignore Stop signs, ignore traffic lights, and even blow up bridges and airplanes. Space shuttles crash and burn, most rock bands never make it big, and people graduate from college to go on and do jack **** with their lives. If only we all stopped and noticed that nothing truly has meaning, and that the values we hold dear are completely objective. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1feEqgRZQI)

tl;dr: The Joker was right, dude.

[Black Cat]

i'd be pissed if i had any reletives that died on 9/11 since its become a lame political tool burned in everyone's mind, "remember 9/11" "dont forget 9/11" "9/11" "never forget 9/11" "9/11" "terrorists" "9/11" "muslims" "9/11" "freedom" "9/11" "war" "9/11"

putting aside who you think was responsible for 9/11, whether it was the Illuminati or Bush or angry muslims with boxknives or lizardmen, innocent people did die. And it's natural to have some kind of memorial etc

But it's just so painfully obvious that the government keeps using it as an excuse to get idiots to agree with their wars and other issues...which for some strange reason is working

[Bernard_Monsha]

F**k Bush though. People should come to this country so they do realize that we're not all wackos.

They know that already, that is why everyone tries to get in here and why when you go to countries like Nigeria, the Philippines, and even China the average joe considers America the bees knee. They want to emulate the American lifestyle and immigrate here over any other country.

Except Texas <_< :P

Do you ever post anything that is not extremely stupid?

i'd be pissed if i had any reletives that died on 9/11 since its become a lame political tool burned in everyone's mind, "remember 9/11" "dont forget 9/11" "9/11" "never forget 9/11" "9/11" "terrorists" "9/11" "muslims" "9/11" "freedom" "9/11" "war" "9/11"

putting aside who you think was responsible for 9/11, whether it was the Illuminati or Bush or angry muslims with boxknives or lizardmen, innocent people did die. And it's natural to have some kind of memorial etc

But it's just so painfully obvious that the government keeps using it as an excuse to get idiots to agree with their wars and other issues...which for some strange reason is working


Stop posting stupid crap, I remember what you posted before about this thinking it was funny and you are a hairs breath away from getting banned forever.

[Hara!]

I hate the internet's opinion of politics. It's turned me cynical.

A whole bunch of people in their little houses typing at their little computers and trying their best to understand a world they detached themselves from a long time ago.

I wonder if any of these "Texans are stupid" or "Bomb the Muslims" people ever actually went out of their way to get to know one.

[Soluzar]

I wonder if any of these "Texans are stupid" or "Bomb the Muslims" people ever actually went out of their way to get to know one.For all we know, they could be posting on this very forum, and nobody even knows the difference. In fact I'm quite certain that at least one of each do post. Cause if you cut 'em, they bleed red like everyone else, and they come in all varieties from awesome to messed up just like folk from anywhere else, or of any other religion.

It's kinda sad that some people are too wrapped up in the version of the world presented to them by the media to grasp this basic truth that you're supposed to learn in childhood.

They know that already, that is why everyone tries to get in here and why when you go to countries like Nigeria, the Philippines, and even China the average joe considers America the bees knee. They want to emulate the American lifestyle and immigrate here over any other country.
If you're waiting for someone to say that America looks like paradise when compared with large chunks of Asia, Eastern Europe, and the Persian Gulf region, not to even mention the vast majority of Africa then consider it said. The things which I think are bad about America are vanishingly small in comparison to the things I think are bad about many countries in the world.

Anyone who doesn't recognise that shouldn't be allowed to post in a political thread. At the same time, I don't see anything wrong with criticising the things that could be better, on the basis that there's nothing wrong with a nation aspiring to reach ever closer to perfection even if they can never reach it.

[superplough]

I dont discriminate against muslims or texans... I just think everyone is stupid. http://jj.am/favicon.ico

[Soluzar]

I dont discriminate against muslims or texans... I just think everyone is stupid. http://jj.am/favicon.ico
Everyone is stupid... on average. Which is to say that none of us are as stupid as all of us.

Or some other clever sound bite. I've got a dozen, because yeah... the vast majority of people aren't as intelligent or well educated as they could and damn well should be, myself not excluded. Why is it that any time people act as a group the total IQ of the group is inversely proportionate to the number of members? Why is it that the stupid people set the trends in society? Why is it that education and intelligence is perceived by so many as a bad thing? The answer is simple. The stupid people outnumber the smart people... and you should never argue with a moron. First he brings you down to his level, then he wins, because he has more experience of being stupid.

I have absolutely no faith in the capacity for intelligence of most human beings, myself not excluded. I have faith in the capacity for intelligence of just enough human beings to ensure a decent future, but I believe they are the sparkling minority. I guess... being stupid must be OK? I mean, people seem to like it. I should give it a try one of these days... more so, I mean?

Soluzar may or may not be somewhat joking.

[superplough]

That is correct.

[Soluzar]

Oh and the most stupid of all are supposedly intelligent people who aren't willing to consider an alternate point of view. That's extra-special stupidity, the kind of which a simple idiot could not dare to conceive. It takes a university degree, or at least considerable on-the-job training to be that moronic.

Honorable mention goes to those with prejudices such as have become the topic of this thread. My hat goes off to you folks. You managed to assume that large groups of people are all exactly the same with regards to some fairly broad parameters, and somehow you fail to spot the fact that you aren't the same as all those of your ethnicity, peer group, social class or religion. Full marks for observation.

I too am exceedingly stupid. Quite especially and extraordinarily stupid, when judged according to the proper set of values. I dare say that if you put a blindfold on me and spin me around with my arm outstretched I would point to a person who (after a suitable amount of discourse) would choose to consider me the worst kind of imbecile. :P

We need only find the properly contentious topic of discussion.

[superplough]

..you so need to have a tv show, where you interview people and mock them. It would get full ratings.



Especially because you're British. :P

[Caster13]

I hate the internet's opinion of politics. It's turned me cynical.

A whole bunch of people in their little houses typing at their little computers and trying their best to understand a world they detached themselves from a long time ago.

I wonder if any of these "Texans are stupid" or "Bomb the Muslims" people ever actually went out of their way to get to know one.

I had a muslim kid on my baseball team once. He was ok, and was a good player. Got along with everyone fine, not anti-American at all. He was normal. I didn't even know anything at all about Islam at the time.. Other than that there were VERY few of them where I lived. This was a little while before 9-11 though.

And I still think to this day of what that guy must have went through after 9-11.

[Soluzar]

..you so need to have a tv show, where you interview people and mock them. It would get full ratings.
It has somewhat been done already. Jeremy Paxman is far better at it than I, and if you want to look at the more parodic mode, then Ali G and Brass Eye are both far better at mockery of stupid people than I could ever aspire to be.

Besides it's no fun if it's personal. I didn't choose to make personal troll post because there's nobody posting in this topic who seems quite that worthy of mockery. It is entertaining to rail against the archetype of the ignorant prole archetypes which make up a sizable chunk of our society, but it's no fun to be mocking and sarcastic to someone's face. That just turns me into a bad person, and I don't see the need for that.

[superplough]

I guess you're right.

You're still brilliant to read though. :lol:

[Bernard_Monsha]

If you're waiting for someone to say that America looks like paradise when compared with large chunks of Asia, Eastern Europe, and the Persian Gulf region, not to even mention the vast majority of Africa then consider it said. The things which I think are bad about America are vanishingly small in comparison to the things I think are bad about many countries in the world.

Anyone who doesn't recognise that shouldn't be allowed to post in a political thread. At the same time, I don't see anything wrong with criticising the things that could be better, on the basis that there's nothing wrong with a nation aspiring to reach ever closer to perfection even if they can never reach it.

You also have to look at it politically, the UK, France, Spain, and Portugal like to interfere with their former colonies and boss them around. Their former subjects absolutely loathe that. The US is usually the only 1rst world power that says "Hey it is not right that you support this guy who stole 3 x the entire GDP of his country and now you took all the money he embezzled and kept it for yourselves." You would be shocked how many times I heard that very complaint about EU countries, the US will tend to freeze assets and give them back to the countries themselves. It is why not a lot of dictators put their money in US banks because they cannot draw on it if they are toppled.

[goddessofanime]

Oh goddamn it...now that Team America song won't leave my head.

THANKS KENPACHI

[Caster13]

Oh goddamn it...now that Team America song won't leave my head.

THANKS KENPACHI

That's where it's from? I thought someone on these forums made it up. Never seen that movie. *braces self*

[superplough]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh god, Kenpachi. You need to see it. It's win on a stick.

http://www.netownage.net/flash/americafy.swf (NSFW)

[Caster13]

I don't find that to be win.

However after watching the Olympics and finding out about the **** that goes down in other countries I am REALLY glad that I live here.

[fujyoshi]

/sigh where did this topic go.....

oh well apparently I'm selfish for my opinion of 9/11 x-x how da ya liek that <,<

[Old Ape Face]

Personally, I would like a country that allows me to live, perhaps not the style I dream about, perhaps not with the best of the best toys in the world, but I want to live to be 75 at least. If I can do that, whether on my own or with a government's support I will will truly be amazed.

And the idea that I can go to school and learn a trade and be as wealthy as any middle class citizen in "In This Country" is the social society, we as Americans are born to appreciate.

Even if I was handicapped or had some kind of mental disorder, anyone in this country can be as wealthy as any average middle class person.

Unfortunately I'm below the line of poverty something must be wrong with me or something.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...wait. wasn't this 2 days ago? even NYC people know when to move on...

[Old Ape Face]

Can't be picky with woman these days huh?

[fujyoshi]

...wait. wasn't this 2 days ago? even NYC people know when to move on...

well your a tristate native so it musta aired where you were at too o.o I know it ate up the chunk where I was /heh mom thought it was eat her stories

[goddessofanime]

Too bad the memorial won't be ready until 2012 or later now.

[Old Ape Face]

Can't be picky with woman these days huh?

Wow how the hell did this post get here? This was suppose to go in that Levi's thread lol. I was wondering where it went.

Moving on now.

[Spadesy]

I was a freshman in high school at the time, heard about it while I was in English class. I never knew how much it'd affect my life later on down the road. It threw the world of counterinsurgency into upheaval.

[xia]

I remember clearly skipping school that day. I had called my mom and told her I had fallen asleep on the T, and that it was too late to go in. I got home just in time for the breaking news about the first tower hit. I was later joined by my father, and I dont think we spoke one word the entire time.

[Tidusauron12]

lolz, I totally missed this thread. :lol:

[Haro!]

Too bad the memorial won't be ready until 2012 or later now.
I think its too bad the memorial is what's been hindering progress all this time. This of course stems from the fact that you can't ask people what they want, much less emotional people. They should have designed something and called it a day, then we really could have moved past at least that aspect. It sucks seeing a hole in the ground. Its ugly. And its much worse when there is a whole in the ground because a) it was the work of terrorists and b) those holes are still there because those of us that survived don't get over petty differences to put something in their place. F*** it build luxury condos (everything is luxury condos now) for all I care just put something there, I've gotten fed up with all of that. Freedom Tower condos. Has a nice ring to it.
Yeah I remember 9/11/01. It was Tuesday and that was my first full week of school (high school no less), and I remember I was supposed to have an exam/quiz that day. Which I didn't study for. And on my way to school that day I had that thought in mind. I like to walk through the park when I'm pensive (well back when I used to think) and that's what I did. From there you can see lower Manhattan and thus the WTC. I thought, "wow this is a really great place to think" and sort of looked forward to just sitting there later in my high school life and just using that spot as a place to gather my thoughts. After chilling there for a few minutes it was off to school and the day was going normally. By the time second period rolled around is when the attacks happened and the fires were visible from the class I was in and boom. So much for having something to look at. Anyway. Some good did come of that day I guess. I met a lot of people that I probably wouldn't have taken the time to talk to in any ordinary day.

[ZSYigadar]

F**k Bush though. People should come to this country so they do realize that we're not all wackos.

I don't quite understand your desire to have even more people in our country whom make broad generalizations about an entire country.

America's fairly neat. Sure there's some foreign places you could go to see that one special thing they have, but I'd hate to live anywhere but America.

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

It was almost a normal day for me. I remembered what day it was when I left for work but no one at work did anything special that I noticed.

Even though I was undergoing a corporate training and class went on like it did the previous four days of the week.

It seems like it is becoming less and less of a spectacle these days.

[Rain]

I dont discriminate against muslims or texans... I just think everyone is stupid. http://jj.am/favicon.ico

And you're not?

God Bless America.

[Caster13]

God Bless America.

A-men! That's the kind of thinking that should have been used in this thread the whole time.

[goddessofanime]

America...F**K YEAH!

[Tidusauron12]

America...F**K YEAH!

Meh, I'm impartial to China lately.

[Caster13]

Meh, I'm impartial to China lately.

You'd rather live there than in America where you actually have rights?

[superplough]

And you're not?

God Bless America.

Did I say everyone except me? No, I'm the stupidest of the lot of ya!

[Tidusauron12]

You'd rather live there than in America where you actually have rights?

You'd rather be dense than have a sense of humor?

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Superplough isn't american and did you guys think you could talk about China without me being involved ARE YOU TRYING TO SUMMON PRONS IT WORKED

[Hara!]

At least we don't live in Finland. That place is chock full of idiots.

[KabukiSaMuRaI]

Superplough isn't american and did you guys think you could talk about China without me being involved ARE YOU TRYING TO SUMMON PRONS IT WORKED
No Prons. We're good. You can go back now.

[Caster13]

You'd rather be dense than have a sense of humor?

Oh, I thought you were serious.:|

I thought you had gone weeaboo, except with more than just Japan.

EDIT: Now I'm thinking about what this type of thread would be like on 4chan. yikes.