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Bernard_Monsha
June 2nd, 2008, 12:41 PM
Requiem in Pacet to one of the true inovaters in the music industry. :(

Rock pioneer Bo Diddley dies at age 79 (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9121TB80&show_article=1)

ACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) - entertainmentminute Bo Diddley, a founding father of rock 'n' roll whose distinctive "shave and a haircut, two bits" rhythm and innovative guitar effects inspired legions of other musicians, died Monday after months of ill health. He was 79.

Diddley died of heart failure at his home in Archer, Fla., spokeswoman Susan Clary said. He had suffered a heart attack in August, three months after suffering a stroke while touring in Iowa. Doctors said the stroke affected his ability to speak, and he had returned to Florida to continue rehabilitation.

The legendary singer and performer, known for his homemade square guitar, dark glasses and black hat, was an inductee into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, had a star on Hollywood's Walk of Fame, and received a lifetime achievement award in 1999 at the Grammy Awards. In recent years he also played for the elder President Bush and President Clinton.

Diddley appreciated the honors he received, "but it didn't put no figures in my checkbook."

"If you ain't got no money, ain't nobody calls you honey," he quipped.

The name Bo Diddley came from other youngsters when he was growing up in Chicago, he said in a 1999 interview.

"I don't know where the kids got it, but the kids in grammar school gave me that name," he said, adding that he liked it so it became his stage name. Other times, he gave somewhat differing stories on where he got the name. Some experts believe a possible source for the name is a one-string instrument used in traditional blues music called a diddley bow.

His first single, "Bo Diddley," introduced record buyers in 1955 to his signature rhythm: bomp ba-bomp bomp, bomp bomp, often summarized as "shave and a haircut, two bits." The B side, "I'm a Man," with its slightly humorous take on macho pride, also became a rock standard.

The company that issued his early songs was Chess-Checkers records, the storied Chicago-based labels that also recorded Chuck Berry and other stars.

Howard Kramer, assistant curator of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, said in 2006 that Diddley's Chess recordings "stand among the best singular recordings of the 20th century."

Diddley's other major songs included, "Say Man," "You Can't Judge a Book by Its Cover," "Shave and a Haircut," "Uncle John," "Who Do You Love?" and "The Mule."

Diddley's influence was felt on both sides of the Atlantic. Buddy Holly borrowed the bomp ba-bomp bomp, bomp bomp rhythm for his song "Not Fade Away."

The Rolling Stones' bluesy remake of that Holly song gave them their first chart single in the United States, in 1964. The following year, another British band, the Yardbirds, had a Top 20 hit in the U.S. with their version of "I'm a Man."

Diddley was also one of the pioneers of the electric guitar, adding reverb and tremelo effects. He even rigged some of his guitars himself.

"He treats it like it was a drum, very rhythmic," E. Michael Harrington, professor of music theory and composition at Belmont University in Nashville, Tenn., said in 2006.

Many other artists, including the Who, Bruce Springsteen and Elvis Costello copied aspects of Diddley's style.

Growing up, Diddley said he had no musical idols, and he wasn't entirely pleased that others drew on his innovations.

"I don't like to copy anybody. Everybody tries to do what I do, update it," he said. "I don't have any idols I copied after."

"They copied everything I did, upgraded it, messed it up. It seems to me that nobody can come up with their own thing, they have to put a little bit of Bo Diddley there," he said.

Despite his success, Diddley claimed he only received a small portion of the money he made during his career. Partly as a result, he continued to tour and record music until his stroke. Between tours, he made his home near Gainesville in north Florida.

"Seventy ain't nothing but a damn number," he told The Associated Press in 1999. "I'm writing and creating new stuff and putting together new different things. Trying to stay out there and roll with the punches. I ain't quit yet."

Diddley, like other artists of his generations, was paid a flat fee for his recordings and said he received no royalty payments on record sales. He also said he was never paid for many of his performances.

"I am owed. I've never got paid," he said. "A dude with a pencil is worse than a cat with a machine gun."

In the early 1950s, Diddley said, disc jockeys called his type of music, "Jungle Music." It was Cleveland disc jockey Alan Freed who is credited with inventing the term "rock 'n' roll."

Diddley said Freed was talking about him, when he introduced him, saying, "Here is a man with an original sound, who is going to rock and roll you right out of your seat."

Diddley won attention from a new generation in 1989 when he took part in the "Bo Knows" ad campaign for Nike, built around football and baseball star Bo Jackson. Commenting on Jackson's guitar skills, Diddley turned to the camera and said, "He don't know Diddley."

"I never could figure out what it had to do with shoes, but it worked," Diddley said. "I got into a lot of new front rooms on the tube."

Born as Ellas Bates on Dec. 30, 1928, in McComb, Miss., Diddley was later adopted by his mother's cousin and took on the name Ellis McDaniel, which his wife always called him.

When he was 5, his family moved to Chicago, where he learned the violin at the Ebenezer Baptist Church. He learned guitar at 10 and entertained passers-by on street corners.

By his early teens, Diddley was playing Chicago's Maxwell Street.

"I came out of school and made something out of myself. I am known all over the globe, all over the world. There are guys who have done a lot of things that don't have the same impact that I had," he said.

Haro!
June 2nd, 2008, 12:58 PM
R.I.P. Bo Diddley.

goddessofanime
June 2nd, 2008, 01:41 PM
R.I.P

*plays 'Bo Diddley' in honor

Caster13
June 2nd, 2008, 05:57 PM
What's with all of these deaths lately?

Tidusauron12
June 2nd, 2008, 06:15 PM
What's with all of these deaths lately?

People die when they get old, and we grow older with every second. What more do you need to know?

Caster13
June 2nd, 2008, 06:17 PM
People die when they get old, and we grow older with every second. What more do you need to know?

I knew someone was gonna say that.

You know what I mean dammit!

goddessofanime
June 2nd, 2008, 06:19 PM
So that's Harvey Corman, Bo Diddley..and one more to go..

Tidusauron12
June 2nd, 2008, 06:20 PM
I knew someone was gonna say that.

You know what I mean dammit!

You know me. :P


So that's Harvey Corman, Bo Diddley..and one more to go..

Pamela Anderson!? :w00t:

Old Ape Face
June 2nd, 2008, 09:06 PM
What's with all of these deaths lately?

We should make a thread for Cliff Burton, his soul must live on as a foundation for one of the greatest metal bands in history :(

20 years since then but his memory lives in the Master of Puppets cemetery.

Old Ape Face
June 2nd, 2008, 09:10 PM
Pamela Anderson!? :w00t:

I'm waiting on Ringo Star, his death will put Paul McCartney in the the most ironic legendary fake death conspiracies in history of music.

Instead of Paul dieing first all the other Beatles members die before him XD

Also Ozzy is getting too old for singing.

Scandiadream
June 3rd, 2008, 05:15 AM
He lived in Archer. I'm from Gainesville. When I used to sell newspaper subscriptions door to door, we went to Archer more than once. I wonder if I ever knocked on his door and got to meet him before I knew who he was and where he lived.

Trefellin
June 3rd, 2008, 08:30 AM
Raise your hand if you've actually heard of this guy before.

Caster13
June 3rd, 2008, 01:58 PM
^*raises finger* I've hear the name Bo Diddley like......once. Thought it was a song or something. Didn't know it was a person.

We should make a thread for Cliff Burton, his soul must live on as a foundation for one of the greatest metal bands in history :(

20 years since then but his memory lives in the Master of Puppets cemetery.

Yukimura, you ****ing rock!:smokin: I think a lot higher of you now.

Old Ape Face
June 3rd, 2008, 02:16 PM
Yukimura, you ****ing rock!:smokin: I think a lot higher of you now.

:D Just bought my self a new guitar, Want to learn it and play like Metallica (Trash metal style). I know that sounds so Corny, but that's the truth.

Been doing my research and stuff, playing the basics. so I'll say I'm turning into a regular metal head. :P

This thread has now turned into a music junky thread, I'm sure a man who has made history in rock would appreciate us talking about trying to play music we love especially since it's roots started from him :)

Caster13
June 3rd, 2008, 02:19 PM
you mean thrash metal.

but this is irrelevant, and it's a given that Cliff Burton > this guy. Hell, Cliff > most guitarists period.

kenshinbebop
June 3rd, 2008, 02:23 PM
Raise your hand if you've actually heard of this guy before.

Those who haven't are losers.

He's a legend. I love a lot of his stuff.

We should make a thread for Cliff Burton, his soul must live on as a foundation for one of the greatest metal bands in history :(

20 years since then but his memory lives in the Master of Puppets cemetery.

Didn't he die like a kabajillion years ago? Why not commemorate Elvis Presley and Buddy Holly too? Scratch that, every musician who has died. Evar. :naughty:


but this is irrelevant, and it's a given that Cliff Burton > this guy. Hell, Cliff > most guitarists period.

Only in your dreams. *wave*
And Cliff was a bassist, so you cant say > most guitarists.

/////supa crotchety old man

Old Ape Face
June 3rd, 2008, 02:29 PM
you mean thrash metal.

but this is irrelevant, and it's a given that Cliff Burton > this guy. Hell, Cliff > most guitarists period.

Except James Hetfield, Kirk Hammet, and hate to say this but maybe Dave Mustain too >_<

Though Metallica's got a new bassist who seems to sound close to Cliff. though I think with Jame's Voice shot Metallica has no breath left :(

And Ken I will be sure to look up this guy's music :)


Didn't he die like a kabajillion years ago? Why not commemorate Elvis Presley and Buddy Holly too? Scratch that, every musician who has died. Evar. :naughty:


Cliff died like a war hero in my opinion, though his death was caused by friendly fire, via Metallica's Bus driver. It was 1986 I think not sure the year.

Also Cliff is a among the legends of the metal age (1980s) an age that will most likely never be seen by man kind ever again.

kenshinbebop
June 3rd, 2008, 02:35 PM
Cliff died like a war hero in my opinion, though his death was caused by friendly fire, via Metallica's Bus driver. It was 1986 I think not sure the year.

Ha, he was cool. Back when Metallica was good and all. but what's all this about a hero, didn't he get crushed by a bus while ironically resting in the most comfortable compartment of their tour bus?

Trefellin
June 3rd, 2008, 02:40 PM
Those who haven't are losers.

But I'm not a loser. I can't be a loser, I listen to Burzum. :(


I think this is a near impossible debate.

Bo Diddley (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs8FJergjas)

Cliff Burton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O9zMnwD65Q)

I've never seen or heard of Mr. Diddley. I think he's played more than a couple ugly guitar travesties though.

kenshinbebop
June 3rd, 2008, 02:47 PM
In a completely unbiased speculation, I'ma say that Bo has contributed more to music in general than Cliff imo.

And again, it's not really right to compare a guitarist to a bassist.
How'd Cliff Burton even get into this thread in the first place?

Old Ape Face
June 3rd, 2008, 02:47 PM
I have to admit the style is totally out of proportion, but that's not the point. We are talking about two different legends in time completely different eras.

I just brought up Cliff as a remembrance of some of the greatest musicians in history in there own styles, as "my own little tradition" great musicians should be honored by other great musicians.

Though I guess a more even keel would be to commemorate John Lennon, I'm just in a metal mood right now.

Trefellin
June 3rd, 2008, 02:49 PM
What do you think about some of those guitars he played? I think they were so ugly.

Caster13
June 3rd, 2008, 02:52 PM
Cliff Burton played bass in a certain way that it was pretty much like playing a regular guitar. The fact that he played bass made him....no, MAKES him more awesome.

I gotta admit though, there's no way he could do the guitar solo in Fight Fire with Fire. That solo makes the song.

oh, and the bunk Cliff was in was gonna be Kirk's bunk, but he got it instead. Kirk could be replaced by someone, Cliff....no.

Old Ape Face
June 3rd, 2008, 02:54 PM
What do you think about some of those guitars he played? I think they were so ugly.

To a musician as long as the instrument makes sound that's all they care about. And In bo's time I don't think style of instrument design was even a thought.

kenshinbebop
June 3rd, 2008, 02:57 PM
I have to admit the style is totally out of proportion, but that's not the point. We are talking about two different legends in time completely different eras.

I just brought up Cliff as a remembrance of some of the greatest musicians in history in there own styles, as "my own little tradition" great musicians should be honored by other great musicians.

Though I guess a more even keel would be to commemorate John Lennon, I'm just in a metal mood right now.

Yeah, I realize that now. I understand the connection.
Though I'll saay I nominate a Lennon commemoration.

What do you think about some of those guitars he played? I think they were so ugly.

I always liked his signature home made rectangle guitars. The one he played in the vid you linked was even cooler.

Cliff Burton played bass in a certain way that it was pretty much like playing a regular guitar. The fact that he played bass made him....no, MAKES him more awesome.

I gotta admit though, there's no way he could do the guitar solo in Fight Fire with Fire. That solo makes the song.

oh, and the bunk Cliff was in was gonna be Kirk's bunk, but he got it instead. Kirk could be replaced by someone, Cliff....no.

Like I said, it's undeniable Cliff was great. But he really only affected one genre. And did he really pioneer anything? Besides just being an amzing bassist, did he do anything? *Honest to god question, ntot trying to incite anything. I'm not too knowledgable on the subject and would like to know*

Old Ape Face
June 3rd, 2008, 02:58 PM
Cliff Burton played bass in a certain way that it was pretty much like playing a regular guitar. The fact that he played bass made him....no, MAKES him more awesome.

I gotta admit though, there's no way he could do the guitar solo in Fight Fire with Fire. That solo makes the song.

oh, and the bunk Cliff was in was gonna be Kirk's bunk, but he got it instead. Kirk could be replaced by someone, Cliff....no.

Do you think Metallica should just separated right then and there instead of kept going? Not to be the Megadeth fan here but Dave Mustain's original group still holds together. While Metallica just kind of floated on the water like a dieing fish trying to swim.

Hmm I'm gona move this discussion to the music section I'm just really into this right now, and I don't want to Hijack a thread.

Caster13
June 3rd, 2008, 03:02 PM
Then they started to get sucky after the Black Album.

I bet that if Cliff didn't die the Black Album never would have happened.

Old Ape Face
June 3rd, 2008, 03:05 PM
Like I said, it's undeniable Cliff was great. But he really only affected one genre. And did he really pioneer anything? Besides just being an amzing bassist, did he do anything? *Honest to god question, ntot trying to incite anything. I'm not too knowledgable on the subject and would like to know*

Right now, just the fact that fans are still crying after the fact that Cliff died so unexpectedly, mixed with his 5-6 year run as Metallica's bassist is enough to spark inspiration in the eyes of people who want to bring it back. Other then that I think he is mostly a talent agent, rather then anything to contribute to musical innovation.

Then again if you haven't paid it much attention Cliff would just seem to be some guy who played base really well.

Old Ape Face
June 3rd, 2008, 03:06 PM
Then they started to get sucky after the Black Album.

I bet that if Cliff didn't die the Black Album never would have happened.

I agree... And Justice for all would probably been better, or non existent.

Caster13
June 3rd, 2008, 03:10 PM
I agree... And Justice for all would probably been better, or non existent.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better.

We would have had a lot more Master of Puppets (album itself) and Orions.

emotoaster
June 3rd, 2008, 05:55 PM
Um can we not hijack the thread? R.I.P. Bo.

Old Ape Face
June 3rd, 2008, 06:14 PM
Um can we not hijack the thread? R.I.P. Bo.

Cliff was moved to the music thread, thank you very much.

333jeffery
June 4th, 2008, 05:41 PM
Bo inspired some of the best rock bands of the past 45 years, from the Beatles to the Stones. That's a helluva an accomplishment that not many folks can claim. Hopefully, he's in rock'n'roll heaven, now....