Charlton Heston dead at 84.

[Hara!]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23975503/
http://www.latimes.com/la-me-heston6apr06,0,3675317.story
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,346965,00.html

In 1998, shortly after he was elected President of the National Rifle Association, Heston had a hip replacement. He was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 1998. Following a course of radiation treatment, the cancer went into remission. In August 2002, Heston publicly announced he was diagnosed with symptoms consistent with Alzheimer's disease.[15] In July 2003, he received the Presidential Medal of Freedom at the White House from President George W. Bush. In March 2005, various newspapers reported family and friends were apparently shocked by the rapid progression of his illness, and he was sometimes unable to get out of bed. In August 2005, a rumor circulated Heston was hospitalized at a Los Angeles hospital with pneumonia, but this was never confirmed by the family. In April 2006, various news sources reported Heston's illness was at an advanced stage and his family were worried he might not survive the year.

Heston died on Saturday, April 5, 2008 at his home in Beverly Hills, California with Lydia, his wife of 64 years, by his side. He was 83.[16][17][18]

[Bernard_Monsha]

I will have to watch Touch of Evil and Planet of the Apes today.

[Hara!]

I will have to watch Touch of Evil and Planet of the Apes today.

I just watched Beneath The Planet Of The Apes and Escape From The Planet Of The Apes a few days ago.

[Haruhi]

RIP Moses...

[Suiko Eiji]

Ouch. That sucks. I saw the first Planet of the Apes on TV the other night.

[kenshinbebop]

I take it he isn;t the person I though it was....is he the guy that talk(ed) about how great guns were and went to towns where school shootings occured spouting pro-arms nonsense?

[Ken-Ohki]

Well that sucks

[Soluzar]

I take it he isn't the person I though it was....is he the guy that talk(ed) about how great guns were and went to towns where school shootings occured spouting pro-arms nonsense?
Same guy. 84 years is long enough to do a few different things.

His acting career was magnificent. His career as the NRA spokesman is something I'll refrain from remarking upon.

[Suiko Eiji]

I take it he isn;t the person I though it was....is he the guy that talk(ed) about how great guns were and went to towns where school shootings occured spouting pro-arms nonsense?

Nope, must have been someone else; I don't recall him doing that. I think Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine tried to pin him for a meeting of the NRA in Denver, April 1999, for being insensitive to the recent Columbine shooting.

[Tidusauron12]

RIP...

Planet of the Apes...
Moses...
(Insert old movie)

[Mr March]

"It's made of people!"

RIP Chuck.

[Soluzar]

Nope, must have been someone else; I don't recall him doing that.
You don't remember him talking about how great guns are? In any case, he's the person who was represented as acting in the way described.

[Bernard_Monsha]

You don't remember him talking about how great guns are? In any case, he's the person who was represented as acting in the way described.

Yes much like there were people who believed Fritz Hippler there are people who believe Micheal Moore.

Chuck Heston was the last of the golden age actors who did things like serve his country, stay faithful to his wife, and generally try to do something positive for the community. One of the funnier things I remember he did after the fact was arguing about labeling laws for records. Some one said the lyrics for Cop Killer were fine so he read them out loud. No one realized what was being said until he did he shut everyone up with that. :lol:

[Leader Desslock]

One of the last truly great actors has died.

Let's see... *looks through collection*

Midway it is.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...Planet of the Apes it is.


DAMN YOUUUUS!!!

rip, Moses.

[Soluzar]

Yes much like there were people who believed Fritz Hippler there are people who believe Micheal Moore.
My point is only that the proper answer to Kenshinbebop's question is probably in the affirmative. Charlton Heston is indeed both the actor with the long and distinguished career in Hollywood's Golden Age, and also the NRA spokesman who was notorious in the press. I acknowledge that the details are subject to some degree of spin on both sides, but really the answer is that the person Kenshinbebop has heard of is Charlton Heston.

[Trefellin]

Ah, that sucks. I really liked him and what he stood for. :(


I guess it's time for someone to pry his rifle from his cold dead fingers.

[Suiko Eiji]

My point is only that the proper answer to Kenshinbebop's question is probably in the affirmative. Charlton Heston is indeed both the actor with the long and distinguished career in Hollywood's Golden Age, and also the NRA spokesman who was notorious in the press. I acknowledge that the details are subject to some degree of spin on both sides, but really the answer is that the person Kenshinbebop has heard of is Charlton Heston.

I'm going to disagree on a technicality - what Kenshipbebop asked was if he was someone who went around to where school shootings occurred and talked about how great guns were. What he did was attend a meeting of the NRA, an obligation as president of the organization, in a city where space was reserved a year in advance, which happened to have a suburb where a school shooting occurred. Aside from talk about 'guns are great', what is something called the National Rifle Association supposed to do?

Bad taste to not have some portion of the keynote dedicated to the students who were killed and what separates legal gun ownership from the criminal acts, but the organization had too much financially backed into this single event that made canceling not really an option.

[Daishikaze]

I'm glad to see he's getting some respect for the things he did right instead of being condemned to hell for what he may or may not have done wrong like on other forums.

He has always been a fave actor of mine, and to have people belittle his achievements as an actor because they don't agree with him on certain issues is very very sad. Sure, don't agree with his idealogy whatever it may have been, but don't take away all the things he accomplished because you disagree.


RIP Chuck, I may not have agreed with you on certain things, but you will live on as a great actor to me.

[goddessofanime]

Ah, that sucks. I really liked him and what he stood for. :(


I guess it's time for someone to pry his rifle from his cold dead fingers.

Trefellin beat me to it!

[Tuna]

*Stifles a vocal laugh at Trefellin's comment*
XD

Seriously, though - he was one of those great actors who did so much, and was around for so long, you just figured he'd live forever...

*Goes to watch Omega Man...plans Ben Hur/El Cid marathon in honour*

[Trefellin]

Trefellin beat me to it!

Ahhh, don't worry. We can take turns trying to pry his rifle away and the one who does... they will be King! Ahem, let the boy try! I say we let the boy try!

[goddessofanime]

I"ma gonna go make some Soylent Green instead.

[Trefellin]

I know that Charlton Heston had nothing to do with King Arthur but I don't care.

[neiru_3]

Great american actor.

[Caster13]

I haven't heard of this guy, but I know his face now.

One of the last truly great actors has died.

It'll be a world tragedy when Sean Connery dies.

[Ikari Warrior]

So, we'll have some damned dirty ape part the ground like the red sea, bury him, have a 21-gun salute, and then have a reception with soylent green.

RIP Mr. Heston, you were a hero to generations.

[Gibb]

I wonder if the mortician had to pry the guns out of his hands...

[Old Ape Face]

I haven't heard of this guy, but I know his face now.



It'll be a world tragedy when Sean Connery dies.

Sean Connery will never die, he will be like that of Chuck Norris, he will be reborn through his burning Ashes and return in a James Bond BMW.

[Fobb]

All I know about this guy is that he was an actor, and NRA related.


But now I'm hearing he did stuff for the community? Like what? Out of genuine curiosity.

[Daishikaze]

Sean Connery will never die, he will be like that of Chuck Norris, he will be reborn through his burning Ashes and return in a James Bond BMW.

It will be an Aston-Martin and nothing else! :P

[Gibb]

All I know about this guy is that he was an actor, and NRA related.


But now I'm hearing he did stuff for the community? Like what? Out of genuine curiosity.

He was the President of the NRA, and a very strong advocate for keeping guns in people's hands. I'm against letting people own assault rifles and crazy amounts of guns, so I personally didn't care for the guy very much, but he wasn't a horrible person or anything.

He once said something along the lines of "you'll have to pry my guns from my cold dead fingers", hence my comment about prying guns out of his hands... too soon? :P

[Fobb]

Is that all he did?

[Bernard_Monsha]

Outside of being one of the most outspoken and earliest Hollywood stars in the Civil Rights movement he spent a lot of time and money with the Will Rogers Institute and St Judes Hospital and lots of other minor charities. He was also a tail gunner in a B-25 in WWII, president of the Screen Actors Guild and Chairman of the AFI (American Film Institute).


He once said something along the lines of "you'll have to pry my guns from my cold dead fingers", hence my comment about prying guns out of his hands... too soon? :P

Not really to soon so much as overdone

[Fobb]

He was involved in the Civil Rights movement? I guess I should be wiki-ing this stuff, but second hand info is better

[Soluzar]

Is that all he did?
It's apparently all anyone remembers. Personally I had no idea about his civil rights work, but I prefer to concentrate on his achievements as an actor anyway. I've seen a good bit of his work, and at least in that field I can say unequivocally that I approve of him. His personal views... aren't really relevant. He was entitled to believe what he wanted to. That's pretty much what America stands for.

I say it again. As an actor, Charlton Heston was magnificent. That should be the important thing right here.

[Fobb]

His personal views... aren't really relevant. He was entitled to believe what he wanted to. That's pretty much what America stands for.

I say it again. As an actor, Charlton Heston was magnificent. That should be the important thing right here.

Lotsa people would rather remember someone for what they've done wrong. Not saying its right, but saying its true.

I haven't seen any of his movies (flame retardant suit activate!), so I can't really say I miss him.

[Bernard_Monsha]

He was involved in the Civil Rights movement? I guess I should be wiki-ing this stuff, but second hand info is better

He was down marching with King before it was a chic thing to do.

[Fobb]

He was down marching with King before it was a chic thing to do.

I respect him for that.

[goddessofanime]

Lotsa people would rather remember someone for what they've done wrong. Not saying its right, but saying its true.

I haven't seen any of his movies (flame retardant suit activate!), so I can't really say I miss him.


If anything else, ABC always plays The Ten Commandments every year at Easter. He's probaly best known for playing Moses out of all the roles he's done.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

I think everyone knows the Ten Commandments, Planet of the Apes, and the 50 hour long epic Ben Hurh.

[Bernard_Monsha]

He was also the Omega Man, and warned us about eating people.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

He was also the Omega Man, and warned us about eating people.

I still think you shouldn't be eating people, bernard.

He was also in the greatest story ever told, which doesn't get enough props I think

[goddessofanime]

Damn, I thought I forgot Ben Hur


Wasn't he in Spartacus too? Or was that someone else?

[Bernard_Monsha]

^

Kirk Douglas, you can tell by the chin dimple the size of Rhode Island.

[Trefellin]

I never realized how many other awesome epic films he was in:

55 Days at Peking
Khartoum
Antony and Cleopatra
The Three Musketeers
Midway
El Cid

I love all those films except for El Cid which I've always wanted to see. They don't have it a my library though.

[Hara!]

He was also the Omega Man, and warned us about eating people.

He was in the first I Am Legend movie?

[Mr March]

I never realized how many other awesome epic films he was in:

55 Days at Peking
Khartoum
Antony and Cleopatra
The Three Musketeers
Midway
El Cid

I love all those films except for El Cid which I've always wanted to see. They don't have it a my library though.

Don't forget his small but very memorable role in True Lies :)

[Soluzar]

Lotsa people would rather remember someone for what they've done wrong.
Yeah... but what did he actually do wrong? I mean, he advocated the excercise of constitutional rights. Even if you're in favour of gun control, it's hard to point the finger and say he did anything wrong. It's just that people disagreed with him. All he ever really did was to strongly advocate a position, which almost everyone does on at least one topic.

[Fobb]

Yeah... but what did he actually do wrong? I mean, he advocated the excercise of constitutional rights. Even if you're in favour of gun control, it's hard to point the finger and say he did anything wrong. It's just that people disagreed with him. All he ever really did was to strongly advocate a position, which almost everyone does on at least one topic.
Thats exactly it. If it doesn't agree with your opinion, its blasphemy. I've been known to do it on more than one occasion

[kamidake90]

I don't even think he advocated for people to own automatic weapons, they were federally banned during his tenure as president.

[Caifane]

Sad news. I liked his movies.

Now all bow before our damn dirty ape overlords!

[wolf_of_twilite]

Sad day! The man was a genious!!!