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superplough
April 2nd, 2008, 09:35 PM
I've been told I might have Aspergers Syndrome. Does anyone know anyone who has it, and what are they like? I'm pretty sure that it ISN'T a good thing.. anyway, apparently I'm going to be tested and such to find out for sure.
I already read the wiki article and I suppose I fit some of the symptoms but not all.. I don't know.
Haro!
April 2nd, 2008, 09:36 PM
Did a psychologist tell you you had Assburger's?
superplough
April 2nd, 2008, 09:38 PM
He said to my dad that he thinks I might.
Justinian
April 2nd, 2008, 09:38 PM
One of my best friends cousin's has it...but I really don't know anything about it.
Haro!
April 2nd, 2008, 09:41 PM
He said to my dad that he thinks I might.
Tell that dude to f--- off and that you ain't got s--- unless you said so. Also tell that fool to get a real job and get you a friggin' chai lattte at exactly 165-degrees.
Edit: You can see my sessions go well ^_^
superplough
April 2nd, 2008, 09:42 PM
:lol: Well he didn't say I definitly have it. Hence why he wants me to do some kind of test thing.
Leader Desslock
April 2nd, 2008, 09:43 PM
Please bear in mind that if you were to make a checklist of traits commonly associated with autism (and its variants), and you were to honestly rate random people according to that checklist, almost everyone would be found to have autistic tendencies.
What that ultimately means is that we're all a bit weird and maladaptive in some situations, and that's life. It's what we do with what we've got that matters.
Even if the diagnosis comes back 100% positive, all it's going to mean is that you maybe need to try harder than most people to work on your social skills a bit, if you want to be a social person.
I haven't seen you post anything on this board that leads me to believe you're socially maladaptive by nature. I haven't met you in person, but I'd guess you might be what we used to call "shy in social situations", maybe.
Haro!
April 2nd, 2008, 09:47 PM
Wait a minute. Dude, you're from friggin' New Zealand! Everyone there is like mellow and would be mistaken candidates for having not-that-good social skills. its just the culture. i mean you guys speak in a monotone for crying out loud. Are you like more of a kiwi than most?
Kagura
April 2nd, 2008, 09:47 PM
Wow. I feel bad for you... I can only hope the best outcome for you. If the tests do come back that you have it hopefully it would be a mild case. I looked up a site for you that tells a little about it. I am not sure if it would help you or not but you could check it out if you like:
http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/aswhatisit.html
superplough
April 2nd, 2008, 09:47 PM
Please bear in mind that if you were to make a checklist of traits commonly associated with autism (and its variants), and you were to honestly rate random people according to that checklist, almost everyone would be found to have autistic tendencies.
What that ultimately means is that we're all a bit weird and maladaptive in some situations, and that's life. It's what we do with what we've got that matters.
That's what I was thinking. From what I've heard (on the internet) a lot of people say that they have Assburgers in order to excuse themselves from retarded sh t.
Even if the diagnosis comes back 100% positive, all it's going to mean is that you maybe need to try harder than most people to work on your social skills a bit, if you want to be a social person.
I haven't seen you post anything on this board that leads me to believe you're socially maladaptive by nature. I haven't met you in person, but I'd guess you might be what we used to call "shy in social situations", maybe.
That sounds about right. If you were around me, I'd most likely avoid you unless you made direct contact with me, and even then I'd probably avoid talking to you unless you really made a point of it.
superplough
April 2nd, 2008, 09:49 PM
Wait a minute. Dude, you're from friggin' New Zealand! Everyone there is like mellow and would be mistaken candidates for having not-that-good social skills. its just the culture. i mean you guys speak in a monotone for crying out loud. Are you like more of a kiwi than most?
WTF.. we don't speak in a monotone! And the guy who said it was also a kiwi so I would presume he wouyld compare me to other kiwis.
Wow. I feel bad for you... I can only hope the best outcome for you. If the tests do come back that you have it hopefully it would be a mild case. I looked up a site for you that tells a little about it. I am not sure if it would help you or not but you could check it out if you like:
http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/aswhatisit.html
Thanks! *reads*
Kagura
April 2nd, 2008, 09:49 PM
Here is another link I have found that gives kind of a description of a few tests that they no doubt will have you do. I hope this helps you out some too.
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/tc/aspergers-syndrome-exams-and-tests
Oh, by the way, you are welcome superplough and I wish you the very best. Being diagnosed with anything sucks. :( I know all too well. Hopefully, you can let us know the outcome. I will be thinking and hoping good luck for you. *hugs*
Haro!
April 2nd, 2008, 09:50 PM
That's what I was thinking. From what I've heard (on the internet) a lot of people say that they have Assburgers in order to excuse themselves from retarded sh t.
That sounds about right. If you were around me, I'd most likely avoid you unless you made direct contact with me, and even then I'd probably avoid talking to you unless you really made a point of it.
Dude that just shows your superiority to most people I think. I mean would Steve Jobs go around talking to people for no reason? No! He wouldn't acknowledge their existence even if they approached him.
(I also apologize for being an *** in all my replies, not really)
The Million Dollar Prons
April 2nd, 2008, 09:55 PM
Superplough, let me tell you something.
Most of the time aspergers is misdiagnosed, as the general rules of it are somewhat vague. In fact, a majority of "psychological diseases," are like this. What does a psychologist know, and how did he test you, and is there even any honest validity behind these tests?
What I mean is, do you think taking an IQ test will really prove that you have something wrong in your mind that causes you to not function properly in the grand scheme of socialization? If the tests WEB MD lists are the tests they use, you can easily see how flawed they are in nature, and how easy they would be to get a missdiagnosis from.
Usually I'd suggest you to Scientology as a joke, but for real, if you really do have something wrong, it's not something a psycholgoist can decide.
superplough
April 2nd, 2008, 09:57 PM
Thanks again Kagura. Again, it looks like I probably have some of the symptoms but like Desslock said, that doesn't automatically mean I have it.
He or she may also look for conditions such as anxiety and depression, which are often found in people with Asperger's syndrome.
-_-;
Haro! I don't mind you being an ***, it's funny :lol: but I don't think I'm superior to anyone. The exact opposite in fact.
Kagura
April 2nd, 2008, 10:00 PM
In a way, Prons has a point too. I don't think Psychologists can EVER determine if a person has a psychological disorder for a certainty. I am sure if they examined everyone in the world, they would say we all are sick in some way so they can make cash from us. Those are supposed to be the tests that they use to diagnose Asparger's. I wonder if maybe you should see your Physician for a 2nd opinion to see what he thinks and maybe to see if there is some kind of way that they can check your blood and maybe check brain waves and so forth to actually find physical evidence as well as the "psych evidence"... hmm... I know some psych disorders can be diagnosed by bloodwork. Like if a person is low on Vitamin B-12 that it can cause you to have some mental illnesses. My mother has some mental illnesses and they had to give her Vitamin B-12 to take daily because she was low on it.
superplough
April 2nd, 2008, 10:02 PM
Superplough, let me tell you something.
Most of the time assburgers is misdiagnosed, as the general rules of it are somewhat vague. In fact, a majority of "psychological diseases," are like this. What does a psychologist know, and how did he test you, and is there even any honest validity behind these tests?
I was thinking this too. I haven't been tested or anything yet, but I know what you mean. I'm rather apprehensive about being told I have this or any mental disorder.
What I mean is, do you think taking an IQ test will really prove that you have something wrong in your mind that causes you to not function properly in the grand scheme of socialization? If the tests WEB MD lists are the tests they use, you can easily see how flawed they are in nature, and how easy they would be to get a missdiagnosis from.
:lol: Yeah I know what you mean. The test could say whatever it wanted and still be wrong.
Usually I'd suggest you to Scientology as a joke, but for real, if you really do have something wrong, it's not something a psycholgoist can decide.
Thanks man. I know. This is the main reason I posted this thread, because I dont think me having Assburgers can just be decided by someone.
superplough
April 2nd, 2008, 10:03 PM
In a way, Prons has a point too. I don't think Psychologists can EVER determine if a person has a psychological disorder for a certainty. I am sure if they examined everyone in the world, they would say we all are sick in some way so they can make cash from us. Those are supposed to be the tests that they use to diagnose Asparger's. I wonder if maybe you should see your Physician for a 2nd opinion to see what he thinks and maybe to see if there is some kind of way that they can check your blood and maybe check brain waves and so forth to actually find physical evidence as well as the "psych evidence"... hmm... I know some psych disorders can be diagnosed by bloodwork. Like if a person is low on Vitamin B-12 that it can cause you to have some mental illnesses. My mother has some mental illnesses and they had to give her Vitamin B-12 to take daily because she was low on it.
I've had blood tests and nothing was found lacking or wrong. The guy's sending me to some other guy for the test so this is all happening. Thanks though :)
Kagura
April 2nd, 2008, 10:16 PM
You are very welcome. See, my view of psychologists isn't very good. I mean how can a person just look at you or just have you sit and talk about how you feel and so forth and automatically say "Well, you have a mental illness or disability"? I always feel physical evidence is needed to prove that a person truly has something wrong with him or her, not just someone's opinion. Same goes with Chiropractors. They say "Oh, you have problems with your back and if you let me do adjustments you will be ok." Believe me, I had gone to one in the past I mean it was several years ago because I was having a lot of headaches that hurt in my neck and the chiropractor said that if I got some adjustments, that the headaches would lessen or stop. I went to 3 different appointments for those adjustments and I was in SO much pain and the headaches were SO intense, I couldn't stand them. After that 3rd and last adjustment, I was writhing in pain that I ended up going to the ER. I was given some REALLY HEAVY duty painkillers and sent home but an emergency appointment was made with the nearest neurologist. After seeing him and after a MRI and CAT Scan, it showed that I have a Brain Aneurysm and if he would have adjusted my spinal cord a certain way, it could have ruptured it. Also, I have some serious spinal injuries from child abuse I endured when I was a kid that a certain twist or whatever during an adjustment could have left me paralyzed. :( Best thing to do is try to get tests that show physical evidence before listening to one's opinion.
DazzleKitty
April 2nd, 2008, 10:17 PM
Well, my ex boyfriend, whom I recently got back together with again (unfortunately...?), has Asperger's. I know there's different levels of severity and I am not sure if he's high-functioning or not, but he has a crapload of Aspie traits. It's a shame because it makes it hard to put up with him and he can be an ******* to people.
Here is a forum you can go to, to ask for some opinions and advice as to whether or not you have it:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums.html
My boyfriend and has dad, who also have it, as well as people with AS online, have thought I share lots of Aspie traits, but I don't think I have it since it doesn't run in my family and it's less common in girls.
superplough
April 2nd, 2008, 10:30 PM
This is good advice Kagura. Thanks :) God, chiropracters to me are bull. Have you seen the Simpsons where Homer set up a chiropracter business which consisted of pushing people backwards over a oddly-shaped trash can? That's chiropracty. :)
Well, my ex boyfriend, whom I recently got back together with again (unfortunately...?), has Asperger's. I know there's different levels of severity and I am not sure if he's high-functioning or not, but he has a crapload of Aspie traits. It's a shame because it makes it hard to put up with him and he can be an ******* to people.
Here is a forum you can go to, to ask for some opinions and advice as to whether or not you have it:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums.html
My boyfriend and has dad, who also have it, as well as people with AS online, have thought I share lots of Aspie traits, but I don't think I have it since it doesn't run in my family and it's less common in girls.
I guess I can be an ******* to people.. but so can anyone, and I wouldn't know if it was due to Assburgers or not. Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.
Kagura
April 2nd, 2008, 10:55 PM
You are more than welcome. I am just trying to help. :) Chiropractors to me are nothing but bull too. I did see that episode of The Simpsons you mentioned! lol If a goofus like Homer (if he were real) can be a chiropractor, then anyone can! lol What I told you about my experience is true. I am grateful things didn't go wrong just because I took that nut's opinion!
On your quote about saying: I guess I can be an ******* to people, Let me comment. There are a lot of people that are ******** and I can say you are NOT one. Also, sometimes life requires one to be an ******* to a person, especially if one is overly annoying you, being a pain in your butt, being overly bossy (kind of like some bosses at a workplace always riding on 1 person), somebody going into the right turning lane of traffic and then suddenly going straight ahead and so on. I think if everyone's lives were looked at closely you would see at least once every person has acted like an ******* At some point. I know I have! lol I mean its like I went through a very prolonged period that I couldn't really trust anyone because of the past events that I endured in my life. Then, when I came here to live with blackknight a person was sitting on our front porch crying and pulling a sad story on us. I truly felt that he was having a down-in-life moment and needed help. blackknight and I both tried to help this poor gentleman, just to discover on the 2nd night we seen him that he was a panhandler from the State Police and that he pulls fake sob stories on people for money for his alcohol/drug habits. Now once again, I have difficulty in trusting people so in turn, I had like a little bit of a hard*** at times. :( Just hang in there. I am sure you are fine and there isn't anything wrong with you. If there is, your friends will be here and wherever you have friends to support you! :)
tenshi_a
April 3rd, 2008, 01:47 AM
Do you like online gaming? MMORPGs? You may just have been diagnosed as a gamer:
http://animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?p=6349126
That and it might also mean that you and your psychologist really don't get along, and he doesn't realise you get along with other people ok...
...or you might actually have Asperger's. I can't tell, since you're a person on the internet and, well, you know about that already. It's no big deal, it just means... you know all the really obnoxious and anti-social people on the internet? They're just wannabe versions of what you are. :lol:
Midoriko87
April 3rd, 2008, 07:43 AM
So, you didn't get tested or anything? Psychiatrists and Psychologists use something called the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders to diagnose/classify Psychological Disorders. It has a shorter title, "DSM-#," not sure of the current revision, though (thus, the #).
Anywho, after interviews or whatnot, your psychologist/psychiatrist answers questions from fives axes of the DSM-#:
Axis 1 Is a Clinical Syndrome present?
- examples: Mental disorders due to general medical condition, Anxiety Disorders, Sleep Disorders, etc.
Axis 2 Is a Personality Disorder or Mental Retardation present?
Axis 3 Is a General Medical Condition, such as diabetes, hypertension, or arthritis, also present?
Axis 4 Are Psychosocial or Environmental Problems, such as school or housing issues, also present?
Axis 5 What Is the Global Assessment of this person's functioning?
- A code of 0-100 is assigned. Like, 91-100, Superior Functioning (goes into detail) or 1-10 Persistent Danger of Hurting Oneself or Others (goes into detail).
I have faith in Psychology, because I realize that these assessments are tested and revised by experts and are highly effective at diagnosing persons. However, NO ONE ('cept God or Octopi-God) can simply interact with you for a short period of time and label you as "this" or "that." "That" being syphilis, I'm sorry...:(
Anywho, a piece of book learnin'. Critics' main deal (there are other deals) with DSM is that it keeps comin' up with new disorders... If I'm remembering correctly, the revision of the DSM-IV spawned 5,000 new disorders, one of which entails sexual attraction to grilled cheese sandwiches... :uhh: OK, I'm lying...about the 5,000; the actual number is much smaller (probably under 100). *Caresses grilled cheese sandwich* Yea, so like I was saying, if tested, like, 30% of adults could be classified as having a psychological disorder. *Looks around Thread* Yup, that number seems about right. :lol: Kidding. -_-;
Oh, and since I saw IQ, somewhere. G hasn't been pinpointed, some doubt if it's an actual place, but what is known is that it WILL follow you your ENTIRE LIFE!! :P See you at school, losers!
Holy Knight
April 3rd, 2008, 02:28 PM
Please bear in mind that if you were to make a checklist of traits commonly associated with autism (and its variants), and you were to honestly rate random people according to that checklist, almost everyone would be found to have autistic tendencies.
What that ultimately means is that we're all a bit weird and maladaptive in some situations, and that's life. It's what we do with what we've got that matters.
Even if the diagnosis comes back 100% positive, all it's going to mean is that you maybe need to try harder than most people to work on your social skills a bit, if you want to be a social person.
I haven't seen you post anything on this board that leads me to believe you're socially maladaptive by nature. I haven't met you in person, but I'd guess you might be what we used to call "shy in social situations", maybe.
Quite true. I once checked up the DMC-IV (that one's for you, Mido) and the associated test expert psychiatrists use to assess psychopathy in an individual. Now, an average person would score a "5" on "40" points. I went up to 17 or something, if I recall, and that puts me pretty close to the line for "psychopath", again, if I remember correctly.
Now, I'm quite sure I'm not a psychopath and not even close to wanting to break any laws, so I would assume it does take an expert specialist in the given field who can identify the pathology. It must be stressed that so-called "professionals" are still human beings. All he'll do is assess if you present the symptoms, judge if they correlate to previous, verified, cases and give a verdict.
Then again, if you do have Asperger's, it's just something to live with. You seem to have done just fine so far, so now you would only need to be aware of an extra dimension. So talk to your friends about that, see if they notice that about you, decide if you want to remedy said behavior, etc. Awareness is, to me, all you need.
The Million Dollar Prons
April 3rd, 2008, 02:49 PM
I have faith in Psychology,!
I guess not all can beautiful AND smart :elvis:
superplough
April 3rd, 2008, 02:52 PM
I'll wait til whatever tests need to be done have been done then come back with the results. At the moment I don't think I'll worry about it.
GreatNekoKoneko
April 3rd, 2008, 04:58 PM
...nothing like a good smack to the head to cure one of ASSBURGERS.
Midoriko87
April 3rd, 2008, 11:15 PM
I guess not all can beautiful AND smart :elvis:
Leave Psychology alone, Prons. We're here to help, not hurt. "Midoriko, are you..." Well, No, but I really like studying it...My dream is to be a professional Gator Rider.
HK, you lying Frenchie!! It's the DSM-IV-TR, and before that, it was the DSM-IV!! What is this, DMC, you speak of? Also, stop trying to diagnose yourself. How did you even get pass the first two axes?!! (Although, the revision is a tad different than it's predecessor in the axes department.)
What is this 0-40?! Psychopath?!! *Sigh* Kids, nowadays!! I mean, you've given your share of bad relationship advice (What girl wants to sit and have the guy she likes try to "explain" to her why his room full of anime porn is totally normal (even if it is normal)), but darn, PSYCHOPATH?!! :P Aw, I'm just messin' with ya, guy!
Anywho, superplough, Autism in any form (even the high functioning Asperger's) is serious business. There was this guy (I'll get his name, later...maybe) suffered some kind of brain injury, g was unaffected but his "emotional intelligence" suffered, BIG TIME. Lost everything, his job, his wife...he just couldn't "get" people. Midoriko is such a feeling person, I can't even fathom something so...unfeeling.
Unsociable Nerds (the bad kind) like imagining they have Asperger's, because then they'll have a physical, biological excuse for being unsociable...Well, that and somehow they figure it makes them geniuses (it doesn't...although, some are exceptional in a particular area, although overall, they're usually of normal intelligence).
Kagura
April 3rd, 2008, 11:46 PM
I'll wait til whatever tests need to be done have been done then come back with the results. At the moment I don't think I'll worry about it.
Well, that's the best thing to do for now. Just try not to worry and just be happy that you are alive and continue being yourself and doing the things you like to do. I await to hear the results and I am hoping they will be good ones for you. :huggles:
tenshi_a
April 4th, 2008, 12:11 AM
Well, that's the best thing to do for now. Just try not to worry and just be happy that you are alive and continue being yourself and doing the things you like to do. I await to hear the results and I am hoping they will be good ones for you. :huggles:
You're saying that like he's just been diagnosed with some horrible terminal disease! -_-; Psychologists don't diagnose people with cancer or anything...!
Meson
April 4th, 2008, 01:25 AM
As an Aspie myself, I will say just wait untill all the testing is done before you claim anything. If you have aspergers, you will know or already know you have it without actually knowing anything about it. You just feel different from everyone around you. However, only a psychologist can determien if you really have it.
If the tests come back positive, don't abuse it. Asperger's Syndrome can be a powerful gift if you use it properly. If you want to discuss it more, feel free to contact my in the AN chat room.
P: Don't call it assburgers. That word should be only used to refer to those falsly claim it.
Midoriko87
April 4th, 2008, 01:43 AM
You're saying that like he's just been diagnosed with some horrible terminal disease! -_-; Psychologists don't diagnose people with cancer or anything...!
There are some Psychological Diseases worse than cancer. No, I'm not being funny. But, I guess "worse than cancer" is just a matter of opinion.
"OK, we get it, Midoriko. You like Psychology. Shut up, already!" :lol:
Hey! Well, I was going to go into a rant about Psychopaths or somethin', but you don't get that, now! And, it's a darned good rant, too, if I do say so myself. And say so, I do! :D
tenshi_a
April 4th, 2008, 01:55 AM
Yes, you're right. People totally lose themselves due to certain mental illnesses. My mother gets attacked by those people at work. :( She's a nurse at a place for elderly people with severe mental illnesses, basically the people who are too insane for normal retirement homes, and gets attacked by big violent men. One of them... one of the carers is the grand-daughter of one of the "service users", and they love each other like family most of the time, but sometimes he snaps and doesn't even recognise her as he attacks everyone and tears up the room. Just because he's old doesn't mean he's frail.
But, I don't think being diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome is like that, it's more... if they're right in their diagnosis, he's going to find out about how and why he thinks and acts the way he does, and that might well make living with himself a lot easier. Y'know? It's not a death sentence...
P: Don't call it assburgers. That word should be only used to refer to those falsly claim it.
I think he's completely fallen for the internet mythology.
Midoriko87
April 4th, 2008, 02:10 AM
I don't think being diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome is like that, it's more... if they're right in their diagnosis, he's going to find out about how and why he thinks and acts the way he does, and that might well make living with himself a lot easier. Y'know? It's not a death sentence...
Of course. I totally agree with you about Asperger's.
I just don't like it when persons think all Psychological Disorders/Mental Illnesses are cakewalks (not saying Asperger's is a cakewalk), and a person can "get over them" with willpower alone or somethin'.
My mom is Bipolar, and her medication works great. However, there are those disorders for which there are no medications. And the therapies that are available, aren't always effective.
superplough
April 4th, 2008, 04:41 AM
P: Don't call it assburgers. That word should be only used to refer to those falsly claim it.
I think he's completely fallen for the internet mythology.
Well, considering:
Unsociable Nerds (the bad kind) like imagining they have Asperger's, because then they'll have a physical, biological excuse for being unsociable...Well, that and somehow they figure it makes them geniuses (it doesn't...although, some are exceptional in a particular area, although overall, they're usually of normal intelligence).
This is why I was calling it assburgers, a lot of things I've seen on the internet denounce it as exactly this: "a physical, biological excuse for being unsociable". Sorry if it offended you, I'll stop.
Midoriko87
April 4th, 2008, 06:31 AM
Well, considering:
This is why I was calling it assburgers, a lot of things I've seen on the internet denounce it as exactly this: "a physical, biological excuse for being unsociable". Sorry if it offended you, I'll stop.
Hey! I don't think of Asperger's as "a physical, biological excuse for being unsocialable"! :angry: If you're affected by it, there's no excuse. And, having trouble empathizing doesn't make you a person-hater. *Nods* :uhh:
But that Unsociable Nerd is all, "Dude, I just don't get people. My brain is, like, wired that way. I don't sweat it, though, 'cause I'm totally a genius!"
Holy Knight
April 4th, 2008, 07:13 AM
HK, you lying Frenchie!! It's the DSM-IV-TR, and before that, it was the DSM-IV!! What is this, DMC, you speak of? Also, stop trying to diagnose yourself. How did you even get pass the first two axes?!! (Although, the revision is a tad different than it's predecessor in the axes department.)
What is this 0-40?! Psychopath?!! *Sigh* Kids, nowadays!! I mean, you've given your share of bad relationship advice (What girl wants to sit and have the guy she likes try to "explain" to her why his room full of anime porn is totally normal (even if it is normal)), but darn, PSYCHOPATH?!! :P Aw, I'm just messin' with ya, guy!
Yes, I meant to say "DSM-IV". There was this thread in the video-game section that had "DMC" in its title and... ahh, I guess my brain got mixed up there.
Hey, I never gave out any such advice! :lol:
Yes, I know you're messing with me.
In any case, said test I used for self-diagnosis was meant to be used by the expert and not the patient, which just goes to show why so many people on the internet seem to think that they have Asperger's. Self-diagnosis just isn't the way to do it.
HSaabedra
April 4th, 2008, 12:53 PM
I'm getting the feeling that Asperger's is the new ADHD: overdiagnosed overexposed, and understood poorly.
Superplough, in your daily life how do you go about interacting with people? Do you introduce yourself in a courteous manner and say hello, or do you look away and say hi? Or do you just not acknowledge anyone at all?
I'm starting to think that this condition is being blown out of proportion in comparison to full blown autism or ASD.
The Million Dollar Prons
April 4th, 2008, 01:54 PM
I'm getting the feeling that Asperger's is the new ADHD: overdiagnosed overexposed, and understood poorly.
Here's a challenge, find me a "mental disorder," that isn't overdiagnosed, overxposed, and understood poorly. :)
KatayokuのTenshi
April 4th, 2008, 02:47 PM
This may sound a little ... ***ish, I'm not trying to be.
Correct me if I'm wrong but:
What does it matter? If you have Asperger’s then you've probably always had it, if you've gotten along fine so far then I don't see that there's a problem. If knowing that you have it helps then it's good that you find out. Sure it sucks being "different" in some way but if it hasn’t hurt you so far then it probably wont from now on either.
That is assuming you have it at all. -_-;
superplough
April 4th, 2008, 02:51 PM
Hey! I don't think of Asperger's as "a physical, biological excuse for being unsocialable"! :angry: If you're affected by it, there's no excuse. And, having trouble empathizing doesn't make you a person-hater. *Nods* :uhh:
But that Unsociable Nerd is all, "Dude, I just don't get people. My brain is, like, wired that way. I don't sweat it, though, 'cause I'm totally a genius!"
That isn't what I meant! -_-; I meant that that's what some people esp. said Unsociable Nerds who self diagnose use it as. Which is what you said. Sorry :(
Superplough, in your daily life how do you go about interacting with people? Do you introduce yourself in a courteous manner and say hello, or do you look away and say hi? Or do you just not acknowledge anyone at all?
Most of the time that third one. But if I do talk to people it's usually the first one.
superplough
April 4th, 2008, 02:54 PM
This may sound a little ... ***ish, I'm not trying to be.
Correct me if I'm wrong but:
What does it matter? If you have Asperger’s then you've probably always had it, if you've gotten along fine so far then I don't see that there's a problem. If knowing that you have it helps then it's good that you find out. Sure it sucks being "different" in some way but if it hasn’t hurt you so far then it probably wont from now on either.
That is assuming you have it at all. -_-;
You know what? You're absolutely right. I just over reacted. I think because of the reputation aspergers has on the internet. Sheesh. Um.. well. Sorry guys.
KatayokuのTenshi
April 4th, 2008, 03:03 PM
You know what? You're absolutely right. I just over reacted. I think because of the reputation aspergers has on the internet. Sheesh. Um.. well. Sorry guys.
That's not a problem. It's fine to be worried about something. :lol:
Like you said the only real issue is how people perceive it. (People including yourself).
If you don't start acting differently then it wont even come up.
Midoriko87
April 4th, 2008, 03:06 PM
Here's a challenge, find me a "mental disorder," that isn't overdiagnosed, overxposed, and understood poorly. :)
:) *Kisses Prons on the lips, smiles* Prons: "UGH, She-He COOTIES!!"
F you, F you! I was trying to be all Christ-like, "they know not what they do" and so forth, but you are undeserving of my mercy! :angry: You shall receive your comeuppance!
Oh anyway, I came here to apologize. I read HK's post, and that self-diagnose business got me to thinking. I'm calling persons "unsociable nerds" and being all insulting, but there are some nice persons out there who have a rough time making friends. I guess I can understand wanting "a reason."
The Million Dollar Prons
April 4th, 2008, 04:10 PM
:) *Kisses Prons on the lips, smiles* Prons: "UGH, She-He COOTIES!!"
F you, F you! I was trying to be all Christ-like, "they know not what they do" and so forth, but you are undeserving of my mercy! :angry: You shall receive your comeuppance!
"
Like every psychologist I've called to arrange a "Q&A" session, you try and offer me sex and your "rockin' boobies" in exchange for THE TRUTH, and ANSWERS.
THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT.
Caster13
April 4th, 2008, 04:47 PM
Here's a challenge, find me a "mental disorder," that isn't overdiagnosed, overxposed, and understood poorly. :)
QFT.
The worst thing about being diagnosed is if it's a kid and the kid gets classified. Being classified does nothing but damage a kid's life, preventing them from doing some of the same stuff as other kids.
I'd know, I got classified when I was young because of being super hyper. Then they slapped all these disorder names on me and put me in some special ed classes for a few years. Not to mention putting me on the 90's behavior medication of choice....RITILIN!
The hyperactive thing mostly wore off by highschool though. But the classification stuck.
CrossboneGundam
April 5th, 2008, 12:29 AM
I've been told I might have Aspergers Syndrome. Does anyone know anyone who has it, and what are they like? I'm pretty sure that it ISN'T a good thing.. anyway, apparently I'm going to be tested and such to find out for sure.
I already read the wiki article and I suppose I fit some of the symptoms but not all.. I don't know.
But people with Asperger's are supposed to have some sort of exceptional mental ability, so you can't have it.
Shiroiyuki
April 5th, 2008, 02:09 AM
But people with Asperger's are supposed to have some sort of exceptional mental ability, so you can't have it.
:lol: Okay, that made me giggle.
Heee, why have I never realized how cool you were before this, CBG? :lol:
superplough
April 5th, 2008, 02:34 AM
But people with Asperger's are supposed to have some sort of exceptional mental ability, so you can't have it.
Man, seriously. It's like you try to piss me off.
Old Ape Face
April 5th, 2008, 10:05 AM
There is no such thing as being weired, there is a such thing as being human though.
I know someone on Second Life who claims she has Asperger's Syndrome, and claims she can not keep a regular job becuase of this. In my honest opinion that's ********, people can do anything if they want to do it, and stubbornness makes it harder for people to do things. I tell her to ignore common instinct and you'll be fine. But she still insists she can't be near people. She freaks out at the slightest interaction with people even on the internet, she even accused me of harassment when I wasn't even trying to touch her. She made me feel like an *** for doing absolutely nothing.
Trefellin
April 5th, 2008, 10:52 AM
There's no way I'll ever fully trust a mental or intellectual evaluation. I just can't imagine that someone could accurately assess certain things.
The Million Dollar Prons
April 5th, 2008, 11:11 AM
I know someone on Second Life who claims she has Asperger's Syndrome, and claims she can not keep a regular job becuase of this.
Y-You....
Play second life?
Old Ape Face
April 5th, 2008, 11:18 AM
Y-You....
Play second life?
yes I do... Just started a week ago, I'm trying to work out the business end of it as best I can.
The Million Dollar Prons
April 5th, 2008, 11:25 AM
yes I do... Just started a week ago, I'm trying to work out the business end of it as best I can.
It basically consists of making crappy looking diapers for virtual transexual animals, and then pretending that it's not really gross. If you can sucessfuly convince yourself into believing the things on Second Life is putrid, you get a dollar, but you have to let Linden Lab kick you in the nuts before.
Old Ape Face
April 5th, 2008, 11:37 AM
It basically consists of making crappy looking diapers for virtual transexual animals, and then pretending that it's not really gross. If you can sucessfuly convince yourself into believing the things on Second Life is putrid, you get a dollar, but you have to let Linden Lab kick you in the nuts before.
and that's what we have 4Chan for? Honestly I'm not interested in the sexual persona of Second Life, there is in fact an intellectual side and that's where I like to be.
Please let's not turn this into Second Life sucks thread. If you want to make that go ahead but enjoy the flames while they last.
The Million Dollar Prons
April 5th, 2008, 11:50 AM
Please let's not turn this into Second Life sucks thread. If you want to make that go ahead but enjoy the flames while they last.
Considering there's only one person here who likes second life.
Did I mention I think assburgers if a faked mental illness and there is no such thing as mental disease and it was all just made up by psychologists?
Shiroiyuki
April 5th, 2008, 12:01 PM
Did I mention I think assburgers if a faked mental illness and there is no such thing as mental disease and it was all just made up by psychologists?
Well, considering almost the entire state of Michigan (okay, North...uh...Western Michigan) is chock-full of retards, I'm gonna disagree.
Sure, psychologists usually just sit there drawing stick people onto their pad of paper while you talk, then spout something about your mother and prescribe you anti-depressants....quacks....like they be knowin’ my momma! It’s all ‘you have suppressed feelings of infantile jealousy blah blah blah...’
*ahem*
But mental diseases do exist *nods*. Just look at my own family. No one 'right in the head' would do some of the ****** up things they've been known for. It's just not right. In the head. Yeah. -_-;
And then you have those with Autism or Down's Syndrome (or any number of other problems), which if you've actually seen them in action you'd know they are mental diseases.
Old Ape Face
April 5th, 2008, 12:03 PM
Considering there's only one person here who likes second life.
Did I mention I think assburgers if a faked mental illness and there is no such thing as mental disease and it was all just made up by psychologists?
You are saying mental illnesses are just excuses to get out of doing stuff, or convict innocent people for doing absolutly nothing?
Ex: Hey this guy tried to sit on me even though he's not even sitting...
The Million Dollar Prons
April 5th, 2008, 12:23 PM
You are saying mental illnesses are just excuses to get out of doing stuff, or convict innocent people for doing absolutly nothing?
I'm saying they're misdiagnosed, unconclusive and geniuenly made up.
Let me tell you an interesting fact, in the world of real medicine there's a 500% inclusive description of what Lukemia is, every medical resource will tell you the same thing about what it is. There's no disgareement in the medical community about what "HIV positive means," or how to test for these diseases. You could say real medicine is universal.
Scizophrenia is one of the most diagnosed medical diseases. According ot NIMH 1.1% of the American adult population has it.
WEll how do they diagnosis it? You tell me.
How do they treat it? A bunch of drugs with debiliation side effects, of course. The NIMH lists at least 30 drugs each with a hideous side effect, but not even how they diagnosis it. IN fact some of the drugs CAUSE SIDE EFFECTS THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT THE DRUG WAS TRYING TO CURE!
IT doesn't take a genius to see the glaring problems in moden psychatry. The victims of misdiagnosis are numerous. I think you should be more sympathetic to the victims of the "mental health" blood industry--as we have a few on the forum now, like Superplough.
Fobb
April 5th, 2008, 01:16 PM
I'm beginning to think that bringing SD&D back probably wouldn't make any sort of dent in the way people treat a topic in here. Everything turns into a debate in the end anyways
EDIT: To stay on topic, and away from infraction points:
Someone mind summarizing any updates related to OP?
Trefellin
April 5th, 2008, 01:21 PM
I think he's still waiting for the test results. I'm getting excited! I'll put down $50 on a positive diagnosis.
GreatNekoKoneko
April 5th, 2008, 01:22 PM
I think he's still waiting for the test results.
...and the results are in.
YOU ARE THE FATHER!
Trefellin
April 5th, 2008, 01:25 PM
...and the results are in.
YOU ARE THE FATHER!
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/Trefellin/willy_nilly.gif What? No, it can't be!
The Million Dollar Prons
April 5th, 2008, 02:06 PM
I think he's still waiting for the test results. I'm getting excited! I'll put down $50 on a positive diagnosis.
Count me in and up the ante to 100 in favor of a positive.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/Trefellin/willy_nilly.gif What? No, it can't be!
Guess that'll teach you to wrap the meat.
Brain Condoms, no aspergers here!
CrossboneGundam
April 5th, 2008, 04:06 PM
I'm saying they're misdiagnosed, unconclusive and geniuenly made up.
Let me tell you an interesting fact, in the world of real medicine there's a 500% inclusive description of what Lukemia is, every medical resource will tell you the same thing about what it is. There's no disgareement in the medical community about what "HIV positive means," or how to test for these diseases. You could say real medicine is universal.
Scizophrenia is one of the most diagnosed medical diseases. According ot NIMH 1.1% of the American adult population has it.
WEll how do they diagnosis it? You tell me.
How do they treat it? A bunch of drugs with debiliation side effects, of course. The NIMH lists at least 30 drugs each with a hideous side effect, but not even how they diagnosis it. IN fact some of the drugs CAUSE SIDE EFFECTS THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT THE DRUG WAS TRYING TO CURE!
IT doesn't take a genius to see the glaring problems in moden psychatry. The victims of misdiagnosis are numerous. I think you should be more sympathetic to the victims of the "mental health" blood industry--as we have a few on the forum now, like Superplough.
lol, Prons is a Scientologist.
The Million Dollar Prons
April 5th, 2008, 04:29 PM
lol, Prons is a Scientologist.
Old meme :(
But if any of you want to come protest infront of my house, I have this totally cool sprinkler that looks like a sunflower.
- Prons
Midoriko87
April 5th, 2008, 07:40 PM
Madness.
Sure, Physiological Diseases are easier to treat...but if we (not me) really understood these illnesses as much as "Prons" seems to think we do, they wouldn't be around, now would they?
Schizophrenia is tricky. There are the brain abnormalities (and not just in one part of the brain), all that dopamine, genetic influences. What about moms affected with viruses...and even then, is it the virus? The mom's own immune system?
And, of course, Schizophrenia isn't one disorder, it's like five.
Oh, the treatments... the leading drug does wonders for disorders marked by positive symptoms (that is, hallucinations, disorganized/deluded speech, and the emotions are kinda everywhere). The drug blocks dopamine receptors.
Side Effects: It can be toxic to a VERY SMALL percentage of persons. Older drugs caused involuntary facial/tongue movement. Newer Drugs affect metabolism (increases risk of diabetes and stuff). Oh, and there's no "One dosage fits all." Also, I mentioned positive symptoms, so of course, there are the negatives: basically, expressionless faces and bodies. The drug I spoke of doesn't help those persons.
And... there's basically two ways Schizophrenia comes about: Out of the Blue, or it slowly develops. The latter...Well, I won't say it can't be treated, but um, it pretty much can't be treated... Don't forget, there's consensus amongst clinicians. If one person (a qualified licensed person, that is) say you have this, there's over an 80% chance that the next guy will say the same.
Far from perfect... But, I guess we could go institutionalizing, torturing, and killing the mentally ill... ;)
Just remembered:
Like every psychologist I've called to arrange a "Q&A" session, you try and offer me sex and your "rockin' boobies" in exchange for THE TRUTH, and ANSWERS.
As if I could let this slide. So, I say to you, son: Well, I am a great lay. :cool:
:lol: Sorry, superplough, but I've been waiting to use that line for months now. -_-;
The Million Dollar Prons
April 7th, 2008, 03:43 PM
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-web/aspies-jtt.php Aspies have invaded the something awufl weekend web! Probably nsfw
CrossboneGundam
April 7th, 2008, 03:55 PM
Old meme :(
But if any of you want to come protest infront of my house, I have this totally cool sprinkler that looks like a sunflower.
- Prons
No, I'm part of the block who thinks Scientology is ludicrous and all, but a bunch of internet losers playing hero by shouting lesser 4chan memes in public is worse.
fujyoshi
April 8th, 2008, 04:34 AM
people told me things like that too but they tawk crazy tawk. They don't know what they're tawking about
Spadesy
April 8th, 2008, 08:00 AM
That sounds about right. If you were around me, I'd most likely avoid you unless you made direct contact with me, and even then I'd probably avoid talking to you unless you really made a point of it.
I think that is more of a personality type, regardless of whether or not you test all positive for Asperger's. Not that I'm a professional psychologist or anything. I have that personality too.
But if your aim is to socialize with people despite your personality or diagnosis, just simply aim to please people. Act like you're interested in what they're talking about, listen for key phrases you can later ask as questions to continue a conversation, take the initiative to invite that person somewhere or just say what you know about a subject yourself. It takes some practice but I doubt it's beyond your scope to achieve.
Spadesy
April 8th, 2008, 08:07 AM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee223/Trefellin/willy_nilly.gif What? No, it can't be!
Are you kidding me? If I heard that news I'd be all like:
"Awwwwright!! I'm gonna name him A$.$hole, and teach him how to box, and wrestle, and smoke, and filter his thoughts and influences so that they one day fester into a Machiavellist personality. When he grows up to marry, he'll already have done like, 100 STD-free women."
fujyoshi
April 10th, 2008, 12:03 PM
I actually speak the truth I have serveral people that think I have that. Even mom thinks I have it she just doesn't tell me that she does but I hear her tawking about it when she was tawking on the phone to someone about it.
Shiroiyuki
April 10th, 2008, 12:06 PM
I actually speak the truth I have serveral people that think I have that. Even mom thinks I have it she just doesn't tell me that she does but I hear her tawking about it when she was tawking on the phone to someone about it.
Why do you keep saying that? 'Tawking'? >_<
That grates on my nerves, kid.
DavenIII
April 10th, 2008, 12:25 PM
Why do you keep saying that? 'Tawking'? >_<
That grates on my nerves, kid.
Maybe thats just how she Tawks and she wanted to portray a realistic representation of her voice threw the text you are ready...did you ever think of THAT!!! huh.
Nah....that can't be it :P
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