Trouble in Tibet

[The Million Dollar Prons]

and the gaurdian seems to think it classifies as a "sport?" (http://sport.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-7386895,00.html)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_unrest_in_Tibet Wiki has moar details.

[Haro!]

Ha if it weren't for my pro-Tibet sympathies I'd burst out laughing. Though the Chinese seem to take it as sport. D'oh it somehow relates to the Olympics in the end, and that of course is far more important than people getting beaten by a bunch of Commies.

[CrossboneGundam]

Two of my half chinese cousins are planning on going to Beijing for the summer, so I hope for their sake Tibet doesn't manage to start the revolution just yet.

Also, haven't you heard of the Opium Wars? The British consider killing Chinamen to be a sport, like killing Scotsmen with bow and arrow on a particular day of the year.

[Animematt55]

like killing Scotsmen with bow and arrow on a particular day of the year.

Wait...that was only on one day of the year? I wasted a bunch of arrows too =P

I am actually quite worried about the Olympics being in China. I am not sure what to predict yet though

[Jia]

Those Chinese are a one sided propaganda machine ~ not that I don't like them but the news is one sided. End of story.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Those Chinese are a one sided propaganda machine ~ not that I don't like them but the news is one sided. End of story.

One sided? Elaborate please.

[Caster13]

They have internet police stopping people from viewing some stuff on Wikipedia because it contains "alternative views" (I'm not quoting, but you get the picture) on their country. I need not say more.

[CrossboneGundam]

Those Chinese are a one sided propaganda machine ~ not that I don't like them but the news is one sided. End of story.

What are you talking about? Why are you equating every chinese person with the ruling communist party's state run media? You sound like you're implying that all "Chinese" people are eager purveyors of misinformation to the world.

[Tidusauron12]

Prons, you dissapoint me. I was expecting a sequel to the Teen Titans movie, Trouble in Tokyo. :P

[Bernard_Monsha]

One sided? Elaborate please.

Why they make up filthy lies about holy Japan invading them and killing Chinese people! Japan is too perfect to ever do anything bad, so it was all Not Me's (http://norbizness.com/archives/not%20me.jpg)fault.

[tenshi_a]

The Chinese Government have blocked access to youtube since Sunday, apparently...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/17/youtube_china/

[The Million Dollar Prons]

I don't think it matters much because mainland chinese users never really youtubed in the first place. The ones in Taiwan and Hong Kong sure, but not mainland. Whenever China bans something people tend to forget they usually ban stuff China never really used in the first place, for example Chinese Wikipedia's usership was always relatively small, even when it wasn't banned.

[hiroaki]

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[Caster13]

Why they make up filthy lies about holy Japan invading them and killing Chinese people! Japan is too perfect to ever do anything bad, so it was all Not Me's (http://norbizness.com/archives/not%20me.jpg)fault.

:lol: Should I REALLY click on that?

[CrossboneGundam]

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Well, Japan would know about Genocide, wouldn't it?

[drgenestarwind]

I'm very saddened by the news in Tibet. I traveled across Tibet last summer, it was one of the most amazing things i have done. i have seen both Tibet and China and support the separation of the two countries, most of all I would love to see the Dali Lama return to Lhasa.

[Stelok]

The U.S. tried to boycott the Moscow Olympics as a protest against the Soviet occupation in Afghanistan. That didn't stop the soviet occupation.

I doubt boycotting China Olympic games will make any difference in Tibet.

Speaking of which, I hope the trouble in Tibet will pave the way for the end of the commie reign in China, as the war in Aghanistan paved the way for the timely death of Soviet Union.

I have to admit even the mainland Chinese Communist government officials have more integrity than the corruptible Filipino politicians and officials. The Chinese government has taken the policy of executing officials who had been suspected of involving themselves in corrupt activity.

[Trefellin]

The Chinese government has taken the policy of executing officials who had been suspected of involving themselves in corrupt activity.

That's good but I'll quote from a song by one of my favourite bands...

"China's a big country, the don't want no ****ing ***** democracy there!"

Are the people of China willing to fight for Democratic government?

[ablo]

Normally I'm pro-Tibetan independence, but from what I can tell, this protest has degenerated into a violent riot, with Tibetan protesters torching shops and government buildings, and even killing some innocent civilians. There is one peaceful protest in China, which took place in Beijing, the capital, and none were harmed (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3568810.ece). To me, I don't think the government is terribly out of bounds, and if something of this scale happened in any other country, would the respective government act differently?

This eyewitness account (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/15/tibet.china2) shows the violence that is taking place is mostly ethnic based.

"The residents are very angry. They are throwing stones at anyone who is Han [Chinese] or from other minorities like the Hui, who are Muslims. It seems like it's ethnic - like they want to kill anyone not Tibetan.

"I would say it's a riot here but I think in the centre it's worse. There's a lot of smoke - we can see it where there have been burnings. I heard people saying the authorities were firing, using guns. We don't know.

Here we have seen people trying to stone anyone they can - Han and other minorities, not foreigners. The Tibetans had stones and knives. I saw Chinese people running away - there was nothing they could do.


Before anyone labels me an "evil commie bastard" let me explain that I am against the extreme use of force that the government uses on a normal basis, and the Tiananmen Square massacre was a terrible event that the government still has to account for. In this case, however, when civilians are killed and police stations torched (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/18/tibet.china), the government needs to take action. At the same time, I disagree with the Chinese government for blaming the Dalai Lama. I think that they are using him as a scapegoat for their own ineptitude.

[Animematt55]

Well, the Tibeian people are literally fighting for their freedom right? I say they have every right to use violence (just not on each other only on the government)

[ablo]

Well, the Tibeian people are literally fighting for their freedom right? I say they have every right to use violence (just not on each other only on the government)

The point is they're NOT committing violence only against the government, but innocent shopkeepers and civilians. Did you read my post at all? Even the Dalai Lama has said he will resign if the protests continue to get out of hand.