Hatton V Mayweather - Undefeated

[Mizumi]

Im not sure about anybody else but i know exactly what my Saturday night is gonna be involving, munchies drinks friends and Hatton whooping Mayweather's butt and becoming the best pound for pound fighter in the world.

But in all seriousness how many of you are gonna be watching this and how do you think its gonna play out, Mayweather seems to think he just has to turn up to win i cant see him really believing that himself naturally its got to all be talk because if you take Hatton seriously you get beat and if you dont take him seriously you get crushed like a little worm!

I think its gonna be a close fight with some great punches Mayweather will most likely sit back and invite Hatton on to him but he hasnt fought anybody with Hatton's kinda style i cant see him winning this one.

This pic just makes me laugh everytime :P

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/6761/000802ab4a63085c47ca0esy4.jpg

[Bernard_Monsha]

Is this a wedding photo?

[Mizumi]

Hmm im gonna say "Negative" on that one its at one of the conferences where they spit the talk and try to walk the walk.
Weigh in is tomoz should be fun ^_^

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...insert caption here:

"Your nose looks delicious."

[Westlo]

Mayweather by points.

[Hisoka]

Floyd Mayweather is going to win by unanimous decision. There is NO WAY he's taking Hatton lightly. He doesn't take anyone lightly and it shows when he comes in tip top shape no matter what the fight unlike Ricky Fatton as he likes to be called. Hatton is ready and will be game, but my boxing experience tells me that he has no chance in hell. Of course anything can happen in boxing, but this is Floyd Mayweather. I've seen every ounce of his career multiple times and I'd bet the damn house on him winning.

[Reidar]

Couldn't care less about boxers today, although at least there are some big names in the lower weight classes, as evident by this fight (but there's still nobody like the talent of prior decades, even at these weights).

I would give it to Mayweather, but I won't be viewing it. It's hard for me to concentrate when I'm watching welterweights and shaking my head at how much faster I, at 240, box.

[Mizumi]

You will lose your house if you bet it Hisoka, go on bet it i dare's ya :P

Hatton may let the weight pile on between fights it gives his body a good rest and while it might not work for him when he gets abit older, at the moment his body can handle the changes.
If you've seen Hatton train then Fatton means nothing there is no fat to be seen on him, Mayweather has never faced a Hatton style fighter and its hard to win by unanimous decision when your lying on your back.
I myself have watched Hattons career and can honestly say Floyd is going down and will never be the same again!

[Westlo]

No way Mayweather is too technical (or as other people say boring) for Hatton, should be a good fight either way but the only way Hatton is winning is by knockout.

[Hisoka]

The way I see it, Hatton's face is going to puff up since he has so much scar tissue. His defense isn't the best and now he's going to be hit by one of the more accurate punchers in the game. The only way I can see Hatton winning is if he gets away with the stuff he did to Kostya Tszyu AKA wrestle him which won't happen since the match is in Vegas.

There is one thing you've said twice now and it's made me laugh. That Floyd has never fought anyone like Hatton before. So that means Hatton has been up against someone like Floyd before? I think not. I mean, he nearly lost to Collazo in 2006. If that guy can hit him at will I can't even imagine what Saturday will be like. Hatton has one thing on his side. He has nothing to lose and will be more up for this fight then any other prior to it.

I said "would" heh. I actually don't like to bet on the fighters I want to win. Just one of my superstitions I guess.

[Westlo]

The only way I can see Hatton winning is if he gets away with the stuff he did to Kostya Tszyu AKA wrestle him which won't happen since the match is in Vegas.

Kostya Tszyu in his prime would've smashed Hatton, smh @ that being his last fight and than appearing on the Australian version of Dancing With The Stars.

[Mizumi]

Tis true Hatton has never faced anybody like Floyd before but he has faced that style of boxing before nobody boxes with Hattons style its unique, Floyd is gonna sit back but it wont work against Hatton.
I see Hatton winning by Knockout after a awesome fight by both boxers i dont think Hattons face will be a problem but i do see what you mean by that, Floyd makes me sick to be honest i dont really like the guy at all but of course im not ignorant enough to dis how good a boxer he is, im afraid though his time has come.

De la Hoya in his prime would of destroyed Mayweather!

[Caster13]

Is this a wedding photo?

PFFFFFFTT! :lol::lol::lol: nice!:thumbsup:

[LOSTyears]

Floyd Mayweather is going to win by unanimous decision. There is NO WAY he's taking Hatton lightly.Feel the same way, all his talk and flash is psychology. Hatton won't roll over but theres no way he's keeping up with Floyd's blazing speed.
I'm kinda reluctant on ordering it though, it might just be another one of Floyds sparring sessions ^_^

De la Hoya in his prime would of destroyed Mayweather!:huh: Wow, just wow.

[Victory]

Why they do always have them stand so close together in promo pics, fan service? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt1s83Kvr0w

[Mizumi]

it might just be another one of Floyds sparring sessions ^_^

Joke of the week ^_^

[Caster13]

i was watching boxing last Saturday. this lightweight Hispanic guy was going against a black guy. i dont know what weight class that 130ish pounds is in. he was cocky as f*cking sh*t. he let the black guy hit him a few times on purpose. let his arms down for him to try and hit him. but he did rock the black guy. dont know who it was though. id love to see him do that and then get floored. then was acting all gangsta afterwards/

then there was a heavyweight fight afterwards and there was a complete KO before the first round was done.

i dont watch boxing much though. couldnt even if i was really into it, my digital cable is $60 a month for basic stuff. none of the movie channels or anything. i saw it at Hooters, so thats the only reason i even saw it. dammit i need Direct TV.

[Mizumi]

Feel the same way, all his talk and flash is psychology. Hatton won't roll over but theres no way he's keeping up with Floyd's blazing speed.
I'm kinda reluctant on ordering it though, it might just be another one of Floyds sparring sessions ^_^

:huh: Wow, just wow.

Why are you wowing do you seriously say Mayweather deserved to win against De La Hoya not in his prime?
Watch this vid then answer the question what would De La Hoya of done if he was the same age as Mayweather?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dss8VYRjxKo

If Mayweather thinks for one second he's gonna be able to sit back like that against Hatton and get away with it he really is dreaming.

[Hisoka]

If Mayweather thinks for one second he's gonna be able to sit back like that against Hatton and get away with it he really is dreaming.

I'm not sure how many Floyd fights you've seen because he's not coming in with the same game plan he used against DLH. I highly doubt he's going to sit on the ropes and invite him in as much. In a match against Hatton, the middle of the ring is his kingdom and that's all he needs. Duck and counter, slip and counter, get in the pocket and fire away. Hatton has one way of doing things and it's very affecting against most fighters. There is a chance that Hatton might even win the first few rounds. But my prediction is that he gets figured out by the 4th round and things start to shift in Mayweather's favor like always.

About him fighting DLH years ago. I don't think that makes much of a difference. Give the guy credit for even getting in there. He said years ago that he wanted to one day fight DLH and everyone laughed at him. Many weight classes later the deal was made and it finally happened. Anyway, I scored their fight 8 rounds to 4 after watching it a few times. It was pretty much the crowd just going crazy everytime Oscar moved an inch with not much connecting. Btw, Pernell Whitaker was robbed in his match against Oscar as was Felix Sturm. :P

What's all this about "not in his prime" stuff? Hatton's best win was against KT who was in his mid 30s and you're praising him for that, aren't you? You need to look at these things from all angles.

[LOSTyears]

Why are you wowing do you seriously say Mayweather deserved to win against De La Hoya not in his prime?I'm saying it would not of made a difference. I give Oscar all the props in the world for being the warrior that he is, but he is really bad against faster fighters. Floyd is about as fast as it comes.

Btw, Pernell Whitaker was robbed in his match against Oscar. :P Thanks, I was about to make that reference. Cause I could see that fight with Floyd going against a young Oscar going the same way only Floyd would be much faster and offensive. Not to take anything away from Sweet Pea, but he was on the decline in that fight and still clowned Oscar. Though the judges were not feeling him.

[germanturkey]

mizumi, question. assuming you're in london, what football team do you support? i'm going to take a stab and say chelsea. don't know why, but thats my guess

[Mizumi]

Floyd just ran against De La Hoya maybe you two watched a different fight to me countless times De La Hoya was getting him up against the ropes and in the corners and pounding him, theres no way that fight was 8 to 4 in rounds ^_^

Nope Hisoka im not praising Hatton for that im sure if you check you wont see me mentioning it ^_^ just in mine and many many others view De La Hoya should of won against Mayweather so if he was in his prime well i dont need to say.
I do agree sometimes the judges favour boxers when maybe it shouldn't of gone that way maybe it evens itself out who knows.

Hatton will knock Mayweather out ^_^

Noooooooooooo i dont support Chelsea no wayyyyyy in hell

[Hisoka]

I'm having a hard time following along with this. If you're not praising for the match against KT which are you? His last match against a shot Castillo? That's one guy both of them have fought before. Floyd fought him in his prime twice (again because some thought he should have lost the first time so he proved them wrong by doing it again) and Hatton who fought him on his way out. Those are Hatton's two most notable wins and both guys were up in age. I take nothing away from Hatton, he's a good fighter and isn't undefeated by chance. But he's got his chance now and a win over Floyd would really be something.

I don't want to get into DLH too much since he's not the one fighting, but the first time I thought the match was closer. Maybe Mayweather winning by 2 rounds or so. Then after watching it a second or third time you really start to see everything, hell I even had it on mute the third time getting the crowd completely out of it. I'm a boxing enthusiast so I do this stuff from time to time. The only people who thought Oscar won that fight was either A) Oscar fans or B) Floyd haters. Simple as that. I enjoy the fight quite a bit though. A nice boxing match.

[Mizumi]

I just said i hadnt mentioned it thats all im def not dissing him for that match Ricky Hatton has beaten everybody he's fought and he's never tried to duck and dodge anyone, he didnt have to fight Mayweather he could of dodged it if he wanted to but he wants this fight and he believes he can win.
Now im not taking anything away from Mayweather either as much as i hate the guy he's a awesome boxer and has beat some great fighters and he didnt dodge this either but just 2 things i need to say

1) I think De La Hoya got robbed against him
2) When these two undefeated fighters meet each other and both boxing skills clash after a long hard and awesome fight i think Hatton will be the victor.

Apart from various clips (which ive seen loads of them) ive only watched the DLH Mayweather fight in full once but i cannot see how he won it.

I guess we could debate this till Saturday night Lol but one thing is for sure its gonna be a great fight, £15 its costing me to order it!

[Haro!]

I want Hatton to win but I think mayweather will win it. Not because he's a better fighter per se but his style of fighting (hit and run basically, unless he's against some really really slow fighter) would make it hard for Hatton to fight his fight.
Oh and Mizumi do you know the song that the Hatton supporters sing? I know it sounds like a Christmas song but can't remember it... (Oh and on an unrelated note, may i make a guess and say that you are an Arsenal supporter?)

[Hisoka]

The song is called "Blue Moon".

Edit - Thought you were asking about his ring entrance song. I know what you're talking about now. At some point it says something like "There is only oooooone Ricky Hatton!" etc etc. You're right about it sounding like a Christmas song. Not sure of the name.

[Haro!]

The song is called "Blue Moon".
I'm pretty sure that's not it, i know that's his entrance music but not the one that the crowd/supporters sing.... ah found it!!!
from Wiki:
"Hatton has attracted many fans who are very vocal in their support during fights. The main chant is a modified version of the popular Christmas song "Winter Wonderland", with the lyrics changed to promote Hatton:

Are you there, Ricky Hatton?
Can you hear me, Ricky Hatton?
A beautiful sight
We're happy tonight
Walking with the Ricky Hatton man"

Edit x2: I remember it having more lyrics though

[Hisoka]

So there we have it. I laughed at Floyd making up his own variation during his visit to Manchester. :lol: They booed him so bad and the fight itself won't be any different. Pro Hatton crowd showing up for sure. Nothing new.

[Hisoka]

Someone I know pointed this clip out to me.

Floyd vs Chavez (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fco0PmJX8bw&eurl=http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151375)

Hopefully it will he half as exciting as this was. It could be very similar to this at some points. Saturday night can't come soon enough.

[Mizumi]

Nooooooooooooooo Haro im not a Arsenal supporter Lol although i do support someone :P

So close to the fight now i cant wait id like it to go a good 9 or 10 rounds at least with some epic boxing, if it goes to a decision it will most likely be Mayweather's victory but i think he will be knocked out before it gets to that point.

[Hisoka]

The wait is literally sucking the life out of me. :lol:

[Mizumi]

Did you see the weigh in Hisoka Lol this is gonna be a amazing contest i mean these two guys hate each other and in about 6 hours were gonna find out who hates who the most :P

[Tom Servo]

I might listen to this on the radio tonight if I'm still awake.

Why all the bad guesses about football teams? Nobody supports Chelsea or Arsenal because they win, no, if you truly enjoy football then you always root for the team that usually loses, like Charlton - this is one of the complexities of the English psyche you will never understand. :P

[Mizumi]

Well thats the first fight of the undercard finished a nice little opener it was too.

Lol my team is pretty much like Charlton all they ever do is lose mind you they've won there last few games.

[Gannon]

Mayweather owned Oscar. He connected on more than double the punches that Oscar got in, the crowd just kept getting excited over every little thing that Oscar did. Oscar knew he was losing, that's why he tried go for a knockout in the final rounds.

As far as Mayweather/Hatton is concerned, it should make for a good fight.

[Hisoka]

Floyd Mayweather is brilliant. That's really all you can say after seeing that fight. He didn't let Hatton do a single thing and just picked away at him. There is always a knock on Floyd that he doesn't go for the kill, but tonight he went for it. The left hook that had Hatton's head hit the turnbuckle before he fell over had me rolling. :lol:

[Mizumi]

Well the fights over Mayweather won Hatton lost and creds to Mayweather are due but damn it was a great fight, Hatton seemed to have the advantage early on but as the fight went on Mayweather was coming into it more and more, Hatton was trying to hussle Mayweather and keep him moving and busy and it was working to a degree but Mayweather has a good defence.
Mayweather started to get some good combo's in on Hatton but damn he took them and just kept coming, the knockdown punch was class though and even though he got up i could see it was over.
I was annoyed with the ref though Hatton boxes close up and whenever they got anywhere close the ref was splitting it up, why i dont know but it was messing up his game plan but thats no excuse though Mayweather deserved the win in the end.
But it was a awesome fight!

[KT Kore]

and Hatton whooping Mayweather's butt and becoming the best pound for pound fighter in the world.

Say what now? ;)

I can't call myself a fan of anything that has to do with Hatton. He bores me to tears. Everyone thought that his style would render everything Floyd did useless, but it was completely turned the other way, and it was Floyd stopped everything Hatton tried. Even on the ropes and in the corner, Hatton could do nothing but hit shoulders, gloves and the back of Floyd's head. The first real hits of the fight came from Floyd the round before the knockout, and pretty much signaled the beginning of the end for Hatton. That was the only buildup for the knockout that came in a blink of an eye from Floyd. Ended exactly the way I would have liked. Somebody's 0 has got to go, and that 0 was Hatton's.

[LOSTyears]

Sounded like a real barn burner, couldn't afford it this time around. I'll either have to watch the repeat or find it some other way ^_^
I was actually quite stunned reading the round by round analysis. Guess a decsion wasn't good enough, did not expect him to go for the jugguler.

[Mizumi]

I wouldnt go as far as to say Hatton was picked apart that really isnt what happened at all, Mayweather was nearly on his *** in the first round people dont forget it.
Yeap Mayweathers awesome but Hatton fought a great fight.

[J Dude]

Well I watched this fight. I honestly can say that I'll never watch another fight involving Hatton. His style is so damn annoying. Reminds me of Kobashi from Hajime no Ippo with all the clinching. I knew Floyd was going to KO him and I'm glad he did.

[Hisoka]

That was a stumble. He got hit the second he was going back and was off balance. Pretty much all there was to it. I honestly found it hard to give him any round. There was a round somewhere in the middle, maybe round 5 where it was up in the air since neither of them were doing all that much. It was a shut out tonight and a pleasing one for me.

[Sushikins]

I was unable to watch it sadly, couldn't get my damn parents to give up the TV, of course they'd choose tonight to stay up late even though they're never up past 10.

[Mizumi]

That was a stumble. He got hit the second he was going back and was off balance. Pretty much all there was to it. I honestly found it hard to give him any round. There was a round somewhere in the middle, maybe round 5 where it was up in the air since neither of them were doing all that much. It was a shut out tonight and a pleasing one for me.

Wow as someone who likes boxing i thought you would at least give a honest opinion, Hatton was all over Mayweather in the first few rounds how the hell can you give them to Mayweather, Mayweather didnt really get going proper to later on in the fight there were some times when he showed signs sure but nothing serious to later on.
Hatton had him shocked early on and it was clear to see from Mayweathers face he was in shock, at least call the fight honest people.

[Hisoka]

My opinion isn't biased. Zab Judah of all people beat Floyd for the first few rounds during their fight. He was quick as hell and gave Floyd a ton of problems for a while. Then he figured him out and fight completely changed.

Tonight was a completely different story. You have to understand how scoring works. You don't get credit for grappling. Hatton might have been all over him like a cheap suit, but he didn't land anything besides a select few shots that did no damage. His punches were smothered completely. You want an honest opinion? I'm giving it to you. This was one of the easiest to score fights I've seen in a long time and the point deduction made it all the easier.

[J Dude]

You don't get credit for grappling. Hatton might have been all over him like a cheap suit, but he didn't land anything besides a select few shots that did no damage. His punches were smothered completely. You want an honest opinion? I'm giving it to you. This was one of the easiest to score fights I've seen in a long time and the point deduction made it all the easier.

Even for someone like me who has very limited knowledge of boxing outside of having watched Hajime no Ippo, I could even tell that much.

[Mizumi]

Your opinion sounds very biased to me some of Hattons punches were landing sure some missed but some landed too but what exactly are you saying Floyd did early apart from run and nearly fall on his butt.
And the point deduction was a joke Mayweather turned because Hatton was unloading on him which makes it Mayweathers fault, hes a clever fighter ill give him that and hes got some awesome punches but hes also a creep who tricked the ref alot which to me means he's not a real champ at all.

Lol J Dude really i dont think you would disagree with Hisoka no matter what the situation ^_^

Also i think my own boxing knowledge is being underestimated here

[J Dude]

Lol J Dude really i dont think you would disagree with Hisoka no matter what the situation ^_^

Also i think my own boxing knowledge is being underestimated here

Don't underestimate the power of Hisoka Hajime. :P The man has never steered me wrong.

[Hisoka]

How does it sound biased? Were the judges biased as well?

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[Mizumi]

Nope he also was one of the ones who pointed me towards One Piece along with yourself and others, it just seems like Hatton is being completely run over here when infact early on he was causing Mayweather trouble and it was clear to see in Mayweathers face.

The judges were biased with the De La Hoya fight or at least some were so who knows

[Hisoka]

Well I'm not trying to run over Hatton. I like him as a person, but not a big fan of his fighting style. I'm a Mayweather fan, yes and I never let that get in the way of my judgment. I'm strict when it comes to boxing and call them as I see it. I give Hatton all the credit in the world for even making it to this big stage, he's got an incredible fanbase who stuck with him tonight till the bitter end. He has more wins in his future if he decides to continue. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see him fight Oscar in May or something. But in tonights fight I find very little to give him credit for. He tried his best to apply pressure, but Mayweather isn't a pipe and didn't bust. I didn't see a single ounce of fear of discomfort on Floyd's face so I'll have to disagree with that. He's the calmest fighter I've ever seen (in the ring) and nothing seems to get him out of his element. He was all business tonight which showed right away since he didn't have a fancy ring walk.

We'll agree to disagree. Nothing personal. :)

[Mizumi]

Thats what i didn't like about this fight you say your not a big fan of his style which is getting in close and unloading close body shots and then to the face but when ever Hatton tried that the ref kept splitting them up it was silly and i know the ref is a good ref too so i don't know what he was thinking.
Im not trying to take away from Mayweather either i know he deserved to win the fight in the end it was some classy boxing but i don't think Hatton was allowed to get going proper.

Let me ask you this when Hatton got the point deducted do you think it was fair?
The way i saw it Hatton was unloading some punches on Mayweather and Mayweather turned his back which of course meant Hatton punched his head which i think the punch actually hit the rope instead, but how is that a point deduction it was Mayweathers fault?

Yeah i think he will be fighting De La Hoya too he said he's going to continue and im glad he is, Mayweather sounded like he was going to retire soon.

I can handle agreeing to disagree and i would never take it personal or mean it personal towards you either :)

[Hisoka]

I don't think the point deduction was justified at all. It was just a mistake and a spin move that happens all the time in boxing. It looks a lot worse because he got trapped in between the ropes. Getting tangled up is normal so I'd just continue the fight without taking a point away.

Allow me to touch on your problem with the rep splitting them up. I know it's Hatton's normal way of fighting, but most American ref's doing allow the hit and hold. Hatton isn't a traditional in fighter. He aims for the body from close in, but he does it by holding and firing off his shots. That is not allowed and against the rules. Any time he does that, the ref has every right to split it up.

[Mizumi]

After the point deduction is when Hatton kind of lost his calm i think that really got to him.

I can see what your saying but the moment they got close he was splitting them i mean alot of the times they wernt even holding and he was in there like a shot.
I don't know what the American commentators were saying but the British ones were going nuts about it and they are ex-boxers.
I guess it doesn't mean much now but i would of just liked him to of been allowed to use his style the way he does, some credit goes to Mayweather though he was blocking and turning.

[Haro!]

Nooooooooooooooo Haro im not a Arsenal supporter Lol although i do support someone :P

Dammit we could've had something special...

Just watched the fight and (disclaimer: I don't like Mayweather at all) I still don't think Floyd Mayweather is as good as he thinks he is.
Sigh I really wanted Hatton to win, but hey I'm still a fan and I kinda saw this happening anyway.

[Westlo]

Mayweather Vs Cotto has to happen now and if Mayweather wins I can't wait to see what excuses his "haters" come up with. I hope he doesn't fight Oscar again.... has to be Cotto!

[Chelsea]

After the point deduction is when Hatton kind of lost his calm i think that really got to him.

I can see what your saying but the moment they got close he was splitting them i mean alot of the times they wernt even holding and he was in there like a shot.
I don't know what the American commentators were saying but the British ones were going nuts about it and they are ex-boxers.
I guess it doesn't mean much now but i would of just liked him to of been allowed to use his style the way he does, some credit goes to Mayweather though he was blocking and turning.

Somebody i know had tears in her eyes when Ricky got knocked down :P

[Caster13]

f*ck i really need to get Direct TV.

i need to see videos of Ali fighting. my dads old enough to have seen him fight.

he said that if Ali fought these guys, they wouldnt stand a chance.

[ecchi]

Towards the end, all Hatton did was clinch. He really reminds me of Kobashi from Hajime No Ippo.

[Mizumi]

Thats Hatton's style of fighting he gets up close and in your face then unleashes body shots then goes for the head sadly Cortez didnt seem to want Hatton to fight the way he does and in effect he stole Hatton's biggest weapon away from him, ive heard lots of stuff now the fights over and a constant thing i keep hearing is "Cortez was on the payroll" im glad im not the only one who thought there was something not quite right with what the ref was doing.

[Reidar]

f*ck i really need to get Direct TV.

i need to see videos of Ali fighting. my dads old enough to have seen him fight.

he said that if Ali fought these guys, they wouldnt stand a chance.

Ali was a heavyweight. These two are welterweights. But Mayweather actually said this:

"I respect what Robinson and Ali did for the sport. But I am the greatest, and this is my time."

Hahahahahahahahano.

Now, I like bragging. I brag all the time. Jack Johnson bragged. Jack Dempsey bragged. Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali bragged, all the way to Sonny Liston's title fight. Bragging livens it up.

But Clay/Ali also said, "It's not bragging when you can back it up." And that can't possibly be backed up.

Almost as silly as Larry Holmes saying that Rocky Marciano couldn't hold on to his jockstrap.

[Reidar]

By the way, if you want Ali fights, get this (http://www.amazon.com/Muhammad-Ali-Greatest-Collection/dp/B00005RY9R/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1197229908&sr=8-1).

It has his three most defining moments: Clay vs. Liston, Ali vs. Foreman, and Ali vs. Frazier III. You can find all these on YouTube, but you really need a big picture for some of the action, especially in the final bout (the one where Ferdie Pacheco said that there would have been a death if both fighters came out for the last round, such was its brutality).

[J Dude]

Towards the end, all Hatton did was clinch. He really reminds me of Kobashi from Hajime No Ippo.

I said the exact same thing. :lol:

[Tom Servo]

God damn, have we won ANYTHING this year? (No, that bicycle race doesn't count).

[Caster13]

But Clay/Ali said, "It's not bragging when you can back it up." And that can't possibly be backed up.

quoted for mother f*cking truth.

i am making that my sig.

[SonRyu]

"THERE'S ONLY OOOONE.... ricky hatton...."

The crowd had me singing that song 'til Hatton ate the corner buckle... poor Hatton, I really wanted him to beat Mayweather; I may respect Mayweather, but I don't gotta like him. At least Mayweather apologized to Hatton for all the things he said pre-match (you can hear the apology when he first approaches Hatton after the fight is over). I wonder if he'll give back the crown he took.

[Westlo]

Love or hate Mayweather you have to admit his sportsmanship is top class while in the ring, he talks so much crap pre fight to get hype for it which works don't you agree?

[Reidar]

I reserve "hate" for rapists and murderers. I don't "hate" Mayweather. I simply think that boxers today are mediocre and uninspired shadows of their predecessors.

Bragging is great, but only when your competency can match or exceed it. Otherwise, it's just hot air, as someone of Mayweather's abilities claiming to be greater than Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali is doing. See, it worked when Ali said he was better than Joe Louis because that was actually a possibility; the mere fact that it was even debatable that the Ali-Frazier trilogy was comparable to the Louis-Schmeling saga, in both performance and social/cultural properties (each representing sides of WWII and the Vietnam war, respectively) spoke volumes.

Mayweather is probably the best boxer pound for pound today, but that speaks more for the overall state of the sport than anything else; I have to compare him to the miserable status quo to think even somewhat highly of him. On his own merits, he's nothing special to me.

But like I said, it's good that this bout got some attention, because that's an anomaly these days. The 2000's era was the first decade in nearly a century to not have an iconic champion.

[Hisoka]

I've always loved the lower weights so boxing has been very good to me in recent years. A lot of fans can only get excited over heavyweights and the state of the division is a joke. Boxing in the public eye seems to always revolve around the status of that division. It's no longer as it used to be where being the HW champion of the world was the most prestigious title in all of sports. Sadly that day is no longer and it's like alphabet soup with the titles these days.

I'm not much for criss cross generation comparisons. It all seems rather silly to me. It's like when people wonder if the greatest basketball teams of old could keep up with the bigger, stronger and more athletic players of today. It's a never ending circle.

Btw, I can't get that damn Hatton song out of my head.

[Haro!]

Btw, I can't get that damn Hatton song out of my head.

Its Christmas soon so I guess it fits. Man people at my house are lucky I didn't watch the fight with them or else I would've sang it until the end.

[Reidar]

I disagree with that. It's almost perspicuous to speculate fantasy matches. Ali comparing himself to Joe Louis, for example, put the degree of his scope into perspective, especially for those who weren't big boxing fans to begin with, which was key for achieving the mainstream status he attained. Not everyone can realize the significance in boxing biomechanics of knocking down Cleveland Williams while moving backwards, but merely hearing that this new guy is better than the legendary Joe Louis, a household name, will turn heads.

Boxing is an anomaly of a sport. There are no teammates to rely on or hide behind. The athlete is representative of himself as one half, alone and exposed. Without the other half, there is no fight. Since boxing depends on a symbiotic relationship of individuals, it's more natural to contrast the skills of one individual from the past against another. The Yankees were the Yankees in 1960, and even though the team members have changed, the representative of what side wins and loses remains. But there is no Jack Johnson, Gene Tunney, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, or Muhammad Ali today. We can pit a longstanding sports team against another in modern times, and whatever team wins would denote that the victorious team is superior, almost as if speaking for the efforts of every predecessor from the past because they contributed in forging the team that won today. Not so in boxing.

[Hisoka]

I think what I want to say is that I'm not much of a fantasy guy. You have good points. You can't really compare boxing to any team game. I was making a reference which probably wasn't the best. Speculation is fun to an extent and it's too bad we don't have time machines.


There are no teammates to rely on or hide behind. The athlete is representative of himself as one half, alone and exposed.

This is without a doubt my favorite aspect of the sport.

[LOSTyears]

Finally got to sit down and watch it, very enjoyable fight. I'm surprised Floyd was able to get such quality shots off from Hattons smothering style, if theres a will he'll find it. He's still got some of the sharpest right crosses in the buisness, blinding left hooks. That knockdown in the 10th looked real nasty from Ricky's pov, even though it went down hill for him after the 6th I thought he brought out the best in Floyd. Bring on Cotto, thats a super fight waiting to happen.

I've always loved the lower weights so boxing has been very good to me in recent years. A lot of fans can only get excited over heavyweights and the state of the division is a joke. Boxing in the public eye seems to always revolve around the status of that division. It's no longer as it used to be where being the HW champion of the world was the most prestigious title in all of sports. Sadly that day is no longer and it's like alphabet soup with the titles these days.Yeah I hear ya, true fans of the sport can really enjoy all weight classes. Unfortunatley a good portion of the consumers are casual, its easy to forget how much depth boxing has considering how the heavyweights of yesterday left such a huge mark on the sport.
Its their lost I say.

[Hisoka]

I watched the fight for a 2nd time earlier and I have to give Hatton more credit then I previously did for a few reasons. He brought the best out of Floyd like LOSTyears and Emanuel Stewart said when the fight was over. It was also very much a Hatton pace throughout and it surprised me to see Floyd go with the flow and beat Hatton at his own game at times. It was a very exciting fight even though most of the rounds were going in one direction. I managed to give Hatton some more rounds this time around. I honestly have no idea what's up with some score cards (Howard Letterman) but I think I had it as follows.

01- Mayweather
02- Hatton
03- 9-9
04- Mayweather
05- Hatton
06- Mayweather
07- Mayweather
08- Mayweather
09- Mayweather
10- KO for Mayweather

I've noticed around that Floyd is getting credit for this win. Something that is few and far between. You always hear "he was supposed to win" but in this fight he dealt with adversity, put all his skills on display and knocked him out leaving nothing more to be desired. The right hand leads are a thing of beauty and the left hook is always dead on. He even busted out the jab which is often a rarity.

Mostly everyone now wants to see him face Cotto, myself being included in the group. It makes the most sense since they were both the winners in the big 4 of the division. "If it makes dollars it makes sense" that's going to be the biggest deciding factor of course. Plus it would be 3 back to back super fights in a row for the guy. I hear the PPV did amazing at 1.5 million buys as only the estimate. They say the sport is dead, huh?


Yeah I hear ya, true fans of the sport can really enjoy all weight classes. Unfortunatley a good portion of the consumers are casual, its easy to forget how much depth boxing has considering how the heavyweights of yesterday left such a huge mark on the sport.
Its their lost I say.

Indeed. Sometimes I get the feeling that some fans think the sport is called KNOCKOUTS rather than boxing. I enjoy the sweat science every bit as much as an all out brawl. The lower weights have always been full of so much excitement and like you said, it's their loss and that's all you can really say.

[Westlo]

I watched the last 3 rounds on youtube from the perspective of the British commentators, even though they were clearly biased to Hatton they have more praise for Mayweather than the american commentators.

[Hisoka]

I watched the last 3 rounds on youtube from the perspective of the British commentators, even though they were clearly biased to Hatton they have more praise for Mayweather than the american commentators.

Ugh, don't even get me started with the HBO commentating team. Each of them clearly always have a favorite and their "nuthugging" as said best in the boxing world gets sickening. They like you until you get really big. The way they speak of Floyd is very much of what it was like with Roy Jones. They loved him and then couldn't wait for him to lose.

[Mizumi]

I watched the fight for a 2nd time earlier and I have to give Hatton more credit then I previously did for a few reasons. He brought the best out of Floyd like LOSTyears and Emanuel Stewart said when the fight was over. It was also very much a Hatton pace throughout and it surprised me to see Floyd go with the flow and beat Hatton at his own game at times. It was a very exciting fight even though most of the rounds were going in one direction. I managed to give Hatton some more rounds this time around. I honestly have no idea what's up with some score cards (Howard Letterman) but I think I had it as follows.

01- Mayweather
02- Hatton
03- 9-9
04- Mayweather
05- Hatton
06- Mayweather
07- Mayweather
08- Mayweather
09- Mayweather
10- KO for Mayweather

Im glad you put this because it shows after a rewatch you can see that Hatton in the earlier rounds was in the fight what he was doing was keeping him with Mayweather although as ive stated before i would of liked the ref to of allowed Hatton to use his true style but i wont go into that.
After 5 i had it 3 v 2 to Hatton in rounds and then it kinda all went downhill as Mayweather started to dominate, ive watched the fight 3 times in total now and at the beginning of the 10th you hear Hattons corner saying to him "you cant afford to lose any more rounds just go for it" i don't really think he could go for it anymore than he was but personally i wouldn't of said anything to him, when he got knocked down he was going for his own knockout punch, maybe he was getting desperate but it was a sweet counter by Mayweather.

[Hisoka]

What's the mood like where you live? It was nice to see that Hatton was still very well received by his fans even after his first loss. But he's like a hero there so I imagine that lots of people are pretty bummed about it especially if you traveled all the way to Vegas. That's one long flight home. I know a few Hatton fans who went into a depression but life goes on.

[Mizumi]

Well im not in depression but when he got knocked down i had tears in my eyes it was nasty the way he hit the corner, Hatton will always be loved by us because after all "Theres only one Ricky Hatton" and that will never change.
He got beat by Mayweather and theres nothing to be ashamed about by that but now id like to see him face De La Hoya which is a real possibility.

Is Mayweather gonna retire it sounded like it after the fight?

[Hisoka]

Boxers don't know how to retire so pay no attention to such claims. He's going to take a long break, that much is for sure and if he sees big $$$ he'll fight whoever. He's at the point in his career where he can do that since he's his own promoter and is the best in the sport. I don't think it makes much of a difference if he fights Cotto or not. I'd like to see it none the less. Cotto should take this time to get another big win under his belt. Maybe fight Paul Williams and then get the big money fight with Mayweather if he can pass that test. He's a big body puncher and all, but if they don't land... Cotto doesn't have the greatest chin either which has been shown a few times in past fights. Regardless, mostly every boxing fan will be calling for it.

[Caster13]

i watched Ali fighting on youtube yesterday. that man was f*cking fast.:blink:

his daughter is good too. she knocked a girl out 15 seconds into her first fight. i remember hearing about that years ago. with Ali as her dad, she couldnt have possibly had a better trainer.

but the problem today is, with all sports, that everyone is using steroids. which causes everybody else to use them because the level of performance is so high BECAUSE of steroids.

and i JUST realized that boxing is one of the few sports that doesnt only focus on people of a certain race.

[Sushikins]

A little late to the party...

Just watched the replay on HBO, thought it was a pretty good fight. Hatton was doing good in the early round. The point deduction didn't really help, but Mayweather started pulling away in round 7 and really got in some heavy hits in the 8th. The pylon hit in round 10 was pretty nice, and it ended shortly after that. I enjoyed the fight though.

My main gripe was that early on the ref kept breaking them up too quickly in my opinion. He needed to shut up and let them fight, and it was really annoying me when he'd step in when they just seems to get a little close early on. He got better later on it seemed, but early own I was quite tired of hearing his voice.