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gameoffreak8
September 19th, 2007, 09:58 AM
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8840/frame01je1.jpg

This one correlates with the picture, and may thus assumed to be real.

No.371:旧知・・・!!

No. 371: An old acquaintence

マダラはサスケの成長を楽しみにしている

Madara's looking forward to Sasuke's development.

影分身ナルトがサスケと接触も瞬殺

A bunshin Naruto finds Sasuke but is "destroyed" on the spot.

自来也は敵忍Aに変化し蝦蟇にイビキのもとへ帰れと命令

Jiraiya transforms into one of the Ninja he interrogated and orders the toad to go to Ibiki.

その様子を子南目撃

Konan witnesses this scene.

ペインに報告 ペイン「そうか・・・自来也先生か・・・」

She notifies Pain, who says "I see... Jiraiya-Sensei..."

ペインの体は自来也小隊の写真の目つきの悪いやつに見えなくもない

The spoiler provider informs us that Pain's body is not unlike the "kid with the nasty look in his eyes" who appears in the picture of Jiraiya's former team.

ペイン、子南に案内させるが到着までに殺してもいいと指示

Pain tells Konan to lead him to Jiraiya, but that she's free to kill him before he gets there.

子南が自来也に仕掛けるが「蝦蟇平影操りの術」で回避

Konan attacks Jiraiya, but he dodges it with a toad jutsu (the name of which I don't understand.)

自来也「術のキレも良くなったが いい女にもなったのオ・・・子南」

Jiraiya: "Not only have you gotten better with your jutsu, but you've grown into a mighty fine woman as well, Konan."

This last line appears clearly legible on the spoiler picture.

EDIT: I saw Pein's new body.

Aya Nakamura
September 19th, 2007, 04:19 PM
Wow........dont tell me they are having Konan and pain be jiraiya's other students:eek: That would be sooooo wierd although if its true it would be quite an interesting plot now wouldnt it

GDB
September 19th, 2007, 04:29 PM
Apparently the image that show's Pein v2.0 in the Deidara look-a-like body, the chat bubble says "Jiraiya-sensei, huh?", so I guess it's pretty safe to say Konan and Pein were Minato/Yondaime's teammates and Jiraiya's students.

MightyDustLoop
September 19th, 2007, 10:14 PM
Yeah, that's what I figured. Minato was from another village which makes Pein, Konan, Yondaime a former team of three.

DarkNataku
September 20th, 2007, 07:24 AM
Well at least we know what happen to the other students. But taking on two of your students who look as gifted as Minato is going to be tough. Konan i would try to take out with a Fire jutsu while she is using that paper technique and Pein with that look a like body don't know. I thought that it was Deidara at first but the number of piercings and im sure the other bodies are the same. I don't think Pein was a part of Jiraiya team because the other boy is a little darker, unless he switched bodies but without his eyes open we can't tell yet.

MightyDustLoop
September 20th, 2007, 09:07 PM
That really looks like Deidara. I suspect he's body switching, although given Deidara there's no way it's his actual body. But then that only makes sense if he was using Yondaime before. If he can shape those bodies in anyone's likeness and hop into them it'll be interesting to see which other ones he winds up using. Maybe they're all the Akatsuki members.

gameoffreak8
September 21st, 2007, 06:32 PM
I read RAW today. I beileve that was Deidara, however, he have lots of piercings. The interesting part is that Konan and Pein were Minato's teammates and Jiraiya's students.

Nomnomnom
September 21st, 2007, 11:16 PM
Could that be Minato's body w/o the water mask all pierced up like pain would want it?

kimimaro
September 22nd, 2007, 12:52 AM
okay, so the tobi guy, in my opinion, can still be obito and madara though I'm going towards madara.

I can't wait to see whether sasuke is a hawk or a snake hehe,
anyways, if tobi is madara, it's quite possible that Itachi didn't kill off his clan for no reason.
Madara is still stronger than itachi so who knows what they've been plotting for a reformation of the clan or something like that. dunno, I can't wait to see the fight.

I feel really sorry for Jiraiya. I haven't got the slightest idea who those two might be. It might be Yondaime's teammates it might not dunno.

DarkNataku
September 22nd, 2007, 08:07 AM
Could that be Minato's body w/o the water mask all pierced up like pain would want it?

Minato didn't have a water mask, did you mean Hanzo? How can Ibiki deal with Pein? Unless he has some special technique that will make Pein talk i doubt it, just looking at the two bodies he has used he just might enjoy the torture. Naruto better be ready to kick Sasuke's @ss or he's going to be in trouble, he had an excuse the first time but nothing holding him back now.

SonRyu
September 22nd, 2007, 11:38 AM
anyways, if tobi is madara, it's quite possible that Itachi didn't kill off his clan for no reason.Now that you say this, this almost makes my own theory of Madara making more sense. I've thought since his reveal that perhaps Madara is more spirit/embodiment than physical person. What I mean to say is, while the original body of the actual Madara may be long gone, perhaps he (his Sharingan) was so powerful that his spirit can come forth in any one of the Uchiha clan who attains a certain "level"; the one to become strongest (in terms of Sharingan) will be taken over by and thus become Madara. Itachi, knowing this, wiped out the Uchiha clan to narrow down who Madara shows up in next. Maybe it was Itachi's plan, for the "greater good", to wipe out the Uchiha expect for Sasuke, who Itachi feels would be the only one capable of destroying Madara (should Madara arise within himself). Now, if I were to assume that Madara's presence right now is currently embodied in Obito (using the name Tobi), then maybe he just didn't have a choice and is biding his time in the body of an Uchiha who was available to him and was thought dead by everyone else. Maybe Itachi is only in the Akatsuki because he's looking for Madara (but probably doesn't know he's Tobi), which would explain his lack of interest/conviction in taking out Naruto. Maybe Itachi is purposely leaving Naruto so that, if Madara was to take over Itachi, and Sasuke kills Itachi, and then Madara moves over to Sasuke, Naruto would kill (save?) Sasuke, thus leaving no more Uchiha's left for Madara to appear in. Which makes defeating Madara the ultimate goal of the series. I don't know if Kishimoto planned that much ahead when he started Naruto, but maybe it can work out that way...

Feel free to shoot holes in this theory, I'm not swearing by it.

ffl
September 22nd, 2007, 11:45 AM
Ibiki was mentioned because Jiraiya wants him to "question" that Rain ninja, not Pain.

gameoffreak8
September 22nd, 2007, 05:59 PM
Good chapter. Looking forward at the next chapter.

How can Ibiki deal with Pein?

You mean Rain ninja, not Pein.

Miroku
September 22nd, 2007, 06:45 PM
Now that you say this, this almost makes my own theory of Madara making more sense. I've thought since his reveal that perhaps Madara is more spirit/embodiment than physical person. What I mean to say is, while the original body of the actual Madara may be long gone, perhaps he (his Sharingan) was so powerful that his spirit can come forth in any one of the Uchiha clan who attains a certain "level"; the one to become strongest (in terms of Sharingan) will be taken over by and thus become Madara. Itachi, knowing this, wiped out the Uchiha clan to narrow down who Madara shows up in next. Maybe it was Itachi's plan, for the "greater good", to wipe out the Uchiha expect for Sasuke, who Itachi feels would be the only one capable of destroying Madara (should Madara arise within himself). Now, if I were to assume that Madara's presence right now is currently embodied in Obito (using the name Tobi), then maybe he just didn't have a choice and is biding his time in the body of an Uchiha who was available to him and was thought dead by everyone else. Maybe Itachi is only in the Akatsuki because he's looking for Madara (but probably doesn't know he's Tobi), which would explain his lack of interest/conviction in taking out Naruto. Maybe Itachi is purposely leaving Naruto so that, if Madara was to take over Itachi, and Sasuke kills Itachi, and then Madara moves over to Sasuke, Naruto would kill (save?) Sasuke, thus leaving no more Uchiha's left for Madara to appear in. Which makes defeating Madara the ultimate goal of the series. I don't know if Kishimoto planned that much ahead when he started Naruto, but maybe it can work out that way...

Feel free to shoot holes in this theory, I'm not swearing by it.

Ok, I'm taking aim...
just kidding, that's a very interesting theory. I was thinking that the Uchiha clan had a purpose that was contraindicative of the greater good of Konoha, and that he was trying to get the clan back on track by killing most of his clan and weeding out the ones who had conformed. I'm pretty sure I saw Madara at one point in time, so I don't think he's Tobi.
Here's the great thing, my theory cannot be shot full of holes since it's already full of them!

DarkNataku
September 23rd, 2007, 08:05 AM
Good chapter. Looking forward at the next chapter.



You mean Rain ninja, not Pein.

MY mistake, i wonder if the Pein's new body has the same abilities as Deidara had. Could it be an improved version of his Shapeshifting Technique and the current AK member are using clone bodies of themselves instead of their originals so Pein can keep their abilities to use when they die.

Jinto117
September 23rd, 2007, 07:04 PM
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1592/ug0a1646lw2.gif (http://imageshack.us)
The girl in the team looks like she may be Konan, however, the other boy looks like someone different. Pein does have the ability to transfer bodies however so who knows. Although this is from the anime and shouldn't be considered cannon it's still something to look at.

ffl
September 23rd, 2007, 07:23 PM
No, it's from the anime which got it directly from the manga. It's canon. All of those images in that sequence were canon.

doghouse
September 23rd, 2007, 09:12 PM
IMO Pein is cloning bodies, and we first see him he is in a clone of the fourth.

SonRyu
September 24th, 2007, 05:55 AM
IMO Pein is cloning bodies, and we first see him he is in a clone of the fourth.Agreed, and who knows, all those piercings may not just be for show, they may have a function (ie allow Pein easier control of body - chakra jewelry).

Jinto117
September 24th, 2007, 09:57 AM
No, it's from the anime which got it directly from the manga. It's canon. All of those images in that sequence were canon.

Okay, if you say so. It's just that I never read the manga way back then so I wasn't sure. The other two students looked kinda generic so I thought they were simply created for the anime.

ffl
September 24th, 2007, 01:51 PM
Okay, if you say so. It's just that I never read the manga way back then so I wasn't sure. The other two students looked kinda generic so I thought they were simply created for the anime.

I didn't read that part "way" back then either, but I did go back and look for it around chapter 135 or so. I think I got the chapters right...

doghouse
September 24th, 2007, 09:51 PM
Agreed, and who knows, all those piercings may not just be for show, they may have a function (ie allow Pein easier control of body - chakra jewelry).

co-sign it looks like a derivative of Orochimaro's (sp?) technique. And from the look of things it seems like he has a whole stable of clones, probably of the strongest ninja in history.

Aya Nakamura
September 24th, 2007, 10:15 PM
Im wondering if the cloned bodies give him any powers that make them special or are they just for show

Nomnomnom
September 26th, 2007, 10:13 AM
They most likely have the abilities of their original owners, but with pein behind the helm, this being what looks to be the body of our sadly departed D.

final flash
September 26th, 2007, 12:11 PM
is it just me or does peins new body look like hidans with alot of piercings, looking at the headband they come from the same village too, so it makes sense to me

ffl
September 26th, 2007, 01:37 PM
Uh, it looks a lot more like Deidara than Hidan.

Aya Nakamura
September 26th, 2007, 04:33 PM
the face kinda looks like hidan and the hair is similar to deidara so maybe its like a mix of both

Hellsartist
September 26th, 2007, 07:14 PM
or maybe, its neither XD seriously other than the hair, which is similar to Deidara's but looks a lot longer (how'd Deidara grow his hair out in the time-frame of a day or 2? XD), this doesn't look anything like deidara, the mouth and eyes are totally different, though maybe its just because he doesn't have Deidara's big grin on his face. Hidan I might be able to see, he is immortal and invincible in that he can't be killed, and it has been a while since Shikamaru beat him so maybe Pein did grab Hidan's body and use it, but in my opinion this doesn't look like Hidan either. I think its just a new body, or the one that has history with Jirayai.