I am Jesus, I am in ur manggah

[Suki]

http://files.tyndale.com/thpdata/images--covers/500%20h/978-1-4143-1680-2.jpg

http://www.tyndale.com/products/details.asp?isbn=978-1-4143-1680-2

Tyndale House Publishers announced that it is launching a yearly series of Christian manga drawn by Japanese artists in September, as well as a Manga Bible with three manga sections in November. Amazon lists Hidenori Kumai as the author, with Kozumi Shinozawa and Atsuko Ogawa as the illustrators, of the first manga book, Manga Messiah.

Summary
MANGA (pronounced "mahn-ga") is the Japanese word for comics. It has become a huge hit with American teens and tweens. Manga has emerged as the most popular comics category and is one of the fastest growing genres in American publishing. Appealing to kids and adults, readers will find this edgy rendition of the Gospel accounts both compelling and highly engaging. This authentic, cutting-edge art style is combined with fast-paced storytelling to deliver biblical truths to an ever-changing culture that is often a challenge to penetrate. This is genuine Japanese manga style, unlike other Christian "manga" books in the marketplace.
Features:


Gives a unique presentation of the Gospel accounts
Includes a map of Galilee, Samaria, and Judea
Includes illustrated character profiles of key Bible people
Features an illustrated page on the twelve apostles
A great way to introduce anyone to the Bible


This hits the bookshelves next month and it's by far the most EPIC story you'll ever read. This is no joke, sir. Did you preorder yours yet?

Move over Goku. Step aside Naruto. Jesus is coming.

[..Jenn..]

lol that is hilarious

[Yukito Kunisaki]

Hey hey, Anime is the devil...or so highly religious people told me (Though I am in the same religion, but hey).

[Sushikins]

I'd buy this just for the laughs.

[Vaikyuko]

It's old news. I saw a few raw scans, it was hilariously bad.

[Samurai Drifter]

The last attempt at a Christian manga a couple of years ago was laughably terrible, I somehow am not expecting better from this one.

If I was still a Christian I would be embarassed to be one.

[Mazinkaiser]

Yeah... I'm christian, but I probably wouldn't buy this. Scratch that- I definitely wouldn't buy it. Besides, I'm pretty sure that them artists ain't christian (considering Japan is like 0.006% Christian), and that doesn't sit well with me.

[Animematt55]

I have lost respect for those artists
I find it laughable that they still think it is officially "manga" just cause of who is drawing it.

[Tenou]

I have lost respect for those artists
I find it laughable that they still think it is officially "manga" just cause of who is drawing it.

Drawn in the Japanese style, by Japanese artists... How is that not manga? Or does it have to be drawn in Japanese style, by Japanese artists, in Japan?
Because if location is an issue, say good bye to Disney as American.

My question is, will they be making a manga of Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore. I think it would make a very good manga. Or even anime. Or hell, an American cartoon.

[..Jenn..]

Maybe if they toss in a few ecchi nuns....I'm just sayin'. :D

[Lone Signal]

If executed well it could be epic...

But most likely not.

[..Jenn..]

If executed well it could be epic...

But most likely not.

This is wayyy off topic but- your avatar looks exactly like my dog's tail. Everytime I see it I think of that. :P

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4476/dsc03580dz7.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc03580dz7.jpg)

[Animematt55]

Drawn in the Japanese style, by Japanese artists... How is that not manga? Or does it have to be drawn in Japanese style, by Japanese artists, in Japan?
Because if location is an issue, say good bye to Disney as American.

My question is, will they be making a manga of Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore. I think it would make a very good manga. Or even anime. Or hell, an American cartoon.

American company, paying people with Japanese names money to draw their story.

[Tenou]

American company, paying people with Japanese names money to draw their story.

So if Monet has an American patron, commissioning him to do a painting, said painting, even though it is in the style of French Impressionism, can't be French Impressionism because it's being paid for by an American?

Manga and anime are no longer terms to describe a medium. Because it is in wide use to describe specifically the Japanese (ie, Japanese style) comics and cartoons (because, as you can see, we have adequate words to describe the medium) it describes the style. You get my meaning? You don't say Japanese style comic, you say manga. Connoting the style. The medium is not important, the Japaneseness is.
If it were a matter of a few anime freaks wanting to sound cool by using Japanese words, that would be one thing, but look around you. It's gaining popularity, it's in the media. It no longer is used merely to refer to comics and cartoons, it refers to the actual style.
The article proves my point.

[DazzleKitty]

Whoo hoo! Jeezis comics!

[RyoTD]

The cover looks pretty badass, and as long as they decide not to remain faithful to the gospel (heh), it might actually be an interesting read. Considering that the author may not be Christian himself, it does have the potential.

Also, I can envision a multitude of new 4chan memes, or at least a flood of motivational posters.

[Leader Desslock]

I don't know that I'd buy it, but I'm certainly not above laughing aloud at it in the bookstore.

The immediate images coming into my head:

1) Jesus doing hand-sign techniques as part of his "Holy no Jutsu".

2) Jesus powering up to defeat Mr. Satan.

3) One of Pontius Pilate's men testing Jesus to discover that his power level "is over 9,000!!!"

4) Jesus turning into Mary Magdalene every time he's splashed with cold water.

5) The Disciples all being recruited into the GOD-Dan, whose real purpose is: a) to keep Jesus from getting bored with the current incarnation of the world, and b) to make sure He never realizes his divinity

6) Christians being thrown to the Black, Red, Yellow, Green and Blue Lions in the Colosseum.

7) The walls of Jericho coming tumbling down due to an errant Windscar! (that one's for you, Tidusauron)

8) David nearly defeating Goliath, who then has a change of heart and sacrifices himself in order to protect the Israelites from the Philistines.

9) The stable in which Jesus is born is inhabited by a black piglet in a bandanna, a white duck with glasses, and a purple cat.

10) Sodom and Gomorrah are destroyed by God's WAVE MOTION GUN!!! (that one's for me, Tidusauron)

11) Noah's Ark actually transforms into an enourmous humanoid battle fortress.

... yeah, I'm goin' to Hell. I know this in advance. I'm just trying to upgrade to First Class Seating at this point.

[tenshi_a]

Summary
MANGA (pronounced "mahn-ga") is the Japanese word for comics.

Manga is pronounced "Man-ga"!
"Man-ga"

Short vowels!

ADV say "MAAAANGA".
AN podcasts say "MONGER". -_-; -_-; -_-;

It's "Man-ga", ok?

Either none of these companies understand how to pronounce Japanese, or they're all doing it to Americanise the word or something. Grr, it's so annoying.

Is there any reason to pronounce it "maaaanga"? Do Americans pronounce words like "random" as "raaaaaandom" or "manslaughter" as "maaaaanslaughter"? No. They just say this one word this way to annoy me. Grr.

And then! These Christians preach mispronunciation! :crybaby:

It's horrible... horrible!

[Alice Catherine]

Well I think my old school owes me an apology for confiscating my manga last year because "it's the devil's work" or something. I think I shall buy this and plaster it all over the walls.

[Soluzar]

Is there any reason to pronounce it "maaaanga"? Do Americans pronounce words like "random" as "raaaaaandom" or "manslaughter" as "maaaaanslaughter"? No. They just say this one word this way to annoy me. Grr.
I'm actually pretty sure the Americans don't say "manslaughter" at all. It's probably because they don't want people mistaking it for "man's laughter".

[Victory]

disgusting

I can just picture the reasoning of the people behind this "for the LORD hath said 'Go forth and spread your own sub-par Holy version of whatever popular entertainment product is in vogue and Lo ye shalt be rewarded with the monies of a million idiots'" I'm just quoting this from memory, but I figure I'm in the ballpark (http://www.realbuzzstudios.com/studios.html).

[Bernard_Monsha]

They can't even begin to approach the majesty that is Jack Chick comics. Just look at his most recent one on the evils of the Tooth Fairy, Santa, and the Easter Bunny! (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1033/1033_01.asp).

[Old Ape Face]

:blink: Fan service exists in the bible?

Well I think my old school owes me an apology for confiscating my manga last year because "it's the devil's work" or something. I think I shall buy this and plaster it all over the walls.

There will be heresy a foot, possibly even hypocrisy, oh and don't forget witch burnings/

[Alice Catherine]

They can't even begin to approach the majesty that is Jack Chick comics. Just look at his most recent one on the evils of the Tooth Fairy, Santa, and the Easter Bunny! (http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1033/1033_01.asp).

That was epix.

[tenshi_a]

:blink: Fan service exists in the bible?
It's always been debateable; some people prefer to view it all as one huge implied-BL/yaoi story, others insist that that's OOC and was not the intended interpretation by the authors, though a lot of those prefer to follow the later anti-yaoi editions of the story... and others say it's a matter of translation.

[Old Ape Face]

It's always been debateable; some people prefer to view it all as one huge implied-BL/yaoi story, others insist that that's OOC and was not the intended interpretation by the authors, though a lot of those prefer to follow the later anti-yaoi editions of the story... and others say it's a matter of translation.

Jesus was really a girl and was Extremely Attractive, but she drank from cursed water during the last supper and turned into a guy? :eek:

[tenshi_a]

No, Jesus was a bloke who was followed around by a bunch of men (so many!) who loved him as much as they would have if he was an Extremely Attractive woman.

I think the most famous retelling of the Bible in manga form is probably Hokuto No Ken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fist_of_the_North_Star). The TV series had a sub-title of "Legend of the New Century Messiah", you know. It's about a dude and his brothers straightening out the world, in a sexist yet vaguely homoerotic way, just like the original New Testament. Kenshirou even has a great Jesus beard through part of the story.

Of course, Hokuto No Ken has more exploding people and motor vehicles, but the essentials are the same.

[Old Ape Face]

No, Jesus was a bloke who was followed around by a bunch of men (so many!) who loved him as much as they would have if he was an Extremely Attractive woman.

I think the most famous retelling of the Bible in manga form is probably Hokuto No Ken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fist_of_the_North_Star). The TV series had a sub-title of "Legend of the New Century Messiah", you know. It's about a dude and his brothers straightening out the world, in a sexist yet vaguely homoerotic way, just like the original New Testament. Kenshirou even has a great Jesus beard through part of the story.

Of course, Hokuto No Ken has more exploding people and motor vehicles, but the essentials are the same.

I like the Ranma 1/2 version better. He was once a girl but found cursed water, and to top it off the He/she that it was, found a group of gay guys. hence it's a Yaoi, Yuri cross over.

[tenshi_a]

Yeah but the difference is you're making it up. I'm actually being entirely serious.

[Old Ape Face]

Yeah but the difference is you're making it up. I'm actually being entirely serious.

Meh, From an Atheist stand point anythings (un)Believable.

[Bernard_Monsha]

:blink: Fan service exists in the bible?



The Song of Songs has some pretty risqué stuff.

[Undrave]

The Song of Songs has some pretty risqué stuff.

Plus Jesus was nice to prostitutes XD

Anyway there is already a manga titled 'Jesus', written by a japanese author and not just drawn.

To me the writer is what makes something 'Japanese' or not since that writer is influenced by the Japanese culture.

'Jesus' was pretty vague as to the divinity of Jesus, leaving it to the reader. Also the author admitted not understanding the importance of Jesus' ressurection, focusing more on his self-sacrifice for exemple.

There's also another manga dealing with a bunch of modern day Japanese christians ending up in the era of the Tokugawa shogunate and trying to help the early Japanese christian by having one of them (a girl out of all people) pose as a new (male) incarnation of Jesus! They use all of their modern knowledge and whatever gadgets they happen to have to trick people into believing in miracles. I'd like to read that. Nothing combines as well as like Japanese crossdressing and Christianity XD

[Anamin]

To steal a quote from metaquotes on livejournal, 'Jesus has never looked so bishonen'

[Leader Desslock]

I like the Ranma 1/2 version better. He was once a girl but found cursed water
That'd mean John The Baptist would be played by the Jusenkyo Guide: "Aiyaa! What sirs doing?! Very bad sirs get baptized in river! Is very tragic curse there!"

[Ikari Warrior]

I lol'd at your bible/anime list, Desslock.

You left out the part where Jesus ascends to the heavens in his Goddam to prevent all the good Catholics from having Zeks before marriage.

[Delta-Pheonix]

Yeah... I'm christian, but I probably wouldn't buy this. Scratch that- I definitely wouldn't buy it. Besides, I'm pretty sure that them artists ain't christian (considering Japan is like 0.006% Christian), and that doesn't sit well with me.

I'm with you on that one...

[Sendo Takeshi]

I think this will be more entertaining than the Bible itself. Also, Toki vs. Jesus. Side bets anyone?

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...psh. i'd rather watch me some SuperBook and some Flying House. at least, there's a robot in flying house.

[Tenou]

The Song of Songs has some pretty risqué stuff.
Genesis has some pretty risqué stuff too... You know, I never though about it, but the bible has the makings of a decent hentai. Raping angels, Lot's daughters boozing him up to rape him... Throw in a hermaphrodite Jesus (you know, the whole all encompassing thing, being both male and female) and what more could you ask for?

[Old Ape Face]

Genesis has some pretty risqué stuff too... You know, I never though about it, but the bible has the makings of a decent hentai. Raping angels, Lot's daughters boozing him up to rape him... Throw in a hermaphrodite Jesus (you know, the whole all encompassing thing, being both male and female) and what more could you ask for?

Jesus is a Futa? :O Tentacle Monsters? :O

[Tenou]

Jesus is a Futa? :O Tentacle Monsters? :O

Futa, hells, yeah. Tenticle monster... eh, I'm not so sure... though there was that thing about rasing Lazarus from the dead, and isn't that some sort of giant squid (or was that Leviathan :P)?
And I've heard some funny stories about what happened between Jesus and Lazarus when they were in that tomb together :w00t:

[Animematt55]

Futa, hells, yeah. Tenticle monster... eh, I'm not so sure... though there was that thing about rasing Lazarus from the dead, and isn't that some sort of giant squid (or was that Leviathan :P)?
And I've heard some funny stories about what happened between Jesus and Lazarus when they were in that tomb together :w00t:

The serpent with Eve would be a popular scene I bet. But that is more..animal..stuff...

[MonkeyBoy0314]

Christian manga made by Americans isn't anything new. This one chick I knew in high school read that stuff all the time, and even tried to push it on me and a bunch of people.

I mean, I'm a Christian and all, but I think religion and entertainment are two completely different things.

[Ariel Tsuki]

^ But this is drawn by actual Japanese manga-ka (prolly know that people won't buy OEL manga in general. But it prolly won't stop the suck that is Christian manga. Stuff like that makes you appreciate the Bible a WHOLE lot more.... or was that their plan all along?

[Bernard_Monsha]

Christian manga made by Americans isn't anything new. This one chick I knew in high school read that stuff all the time, and even tried to push it on me and a bunch of people.

I mean, I'm a Christian and all, but I think religion and entertainment are two completely different things.

You have pbviously never watched Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter.

[Ikari Warrior]

You have pbviously never watched Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter.

You mean Vampire Hunter JC? Good one :thumbsup:

[Bernard_Monsha]

You mean Vampire Hunter JC? Good one :thumbsup:

No never heard of that, but this one is a musical and has El Santos! in it.

http://www.hopkinsfilmfest.com/images/films/2003/jesus_christ_vampire_hunter_imqchmkjxe.j pg

[Gibb]

Maybe if they toss in a few ecchi nuns....I'm just sayin'. :D

You clearly haven't read the bible.

If they actually mangaize the bible accurately, than you'll have more violence and hentai than you could ever imagine. There won't be any tentacle monsters tho.

[earsofdoom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6kH54iYgcU

This is probably what its going to be like :P .

[Sendo Takeshi]

Still sleeping on that Toki vs. Jesus match. What's good? I got $50 on Toki.

[tenshi_a]

Toki vs Jesus.

ROUND 1
FIGHT!

Jesus talks a lot.
Toki talks a lot.
Jesus pauses.
Toki waits to counter.
Jesus talks a lot.
Toki talks a lot.
Jesus pauses.
Toki waits to counter.
Jesus talks a lot.
Toki talks a lot.
Jesus pauses.
Toki waits to counter.
...[3 years pass]...
Toki announces he's about to die.
Jesus performs a miracle.
Toki counters Jesus's miracle with a throw.

Toki wins.

End of round 1.

[Undrave]

If I want some paraboles I'll go watch Kino's Journey again hehehehe.

[MonkeyBoy0314]

Still sleeping on that Toki vs. Jesus match. What's good? I got $50 on Toki.

At first I thought you meant Toki from Dethklok

[Amuro]

Hikaru no Go proved to me that you can promote anything via anime (by manipulating the "I want to be like the main character" effect. Heck, I wanted to buy Kiba Yuji's car after seeing Kamen Rider 555). However, the emphasis is on anime, since according to the report BBC did on Hikaru no Go (you can find it on YouTube), the burst in child attendance to Beginner Go classes began/expanded with the release of the anime. Common sense would lead me to the same conclusion.. more people watch anime than subscribe to weekly manga magazines.

That, however, is Japan (and France, and some other nations where HnG took off, I believe). Since Messiah here probably won't be made into an anime and is being published in good-'ol expensive books rather than magazines, there is very little chance of it or anything like it being successful.

I honestly believe, however, that a huge portion of young viewers could soak up a well-done anime in the DBZ mold that swapped in Jesus for Goku. How about a show in the Pokemon mold?

The key, of-course, is well-done, since the reason that Hikaru no Go did so well was because the basic storytelling mechanics were arguably better than those of Yu-Gi-Oh!, its massively-successful model.

[fruits_kitty333]

im a christian, and i would buy something if it was ALL manga, but i saw this (if it wasn't something the same) in a bookshop. it sucked. it was half book/half comic! bleh. anyway, how does the bible of all things have the makings of a hentai??????!!!!!! really, bible/japanese cartoon porn >_< (as i see it) don't mix. really.-_-;-_-;-_-;-_-;

[Animematt55]

im a christian, and i would buy something if it was ALL manga, but i saw this (if it wasn't something the same) in a bookshop. it sucked. it was half book/half comic! bleh. anyway, how does the bible of all things have the makings of a hentai??????!!!!!! really, bible/japanese cartoon porn >_< (as i see it) don't mix. really.-_-;-_-;-_-;-_-;

Can you cut down on the color please? it is a bit annoying.
From what I have read, it would make a great hentai. Maybe more so than Bondage game =)

[KatayokuのTenshi]

im a christian, and i would buy something if it was ALL manga, but i saw this (if it wasn't something the same) in a bookshop. it sucked. it was half book/half comic! bleh. anyway, how does the bible of all things have the makings of a hentai? really, bible/japanese cartoon porn >_< (as i see it) don't mix. really.
(Formatting removed... for all of our sakes)

Who said it was going to be a hentai manga? :unsure:

Also I will direct you to this topic (http://animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207859) particularly no3 on the list. :P

[fruits_kitty333]

I'm Sorry!! I'm Sorry!! :crybaby::crybaby::crybaby:

please don't hurt me...

garfeild isn't bad tho...just that particular strip. (i didn't get it) :| :wacko:

but this is off topic, so lets just leave it.

the bible would not make a good hentai.

[CapnTylor]

is this the one that comicsone released as an e-manga years ago? i dont think so, because it was drawn by tomino. but that was pretty kick-***.

[fruits_kitty333]

i think there has been TONS of manga bibles. just check out wesley owen, i found a couple there. heck, i got one-its good ^^ http://www.zgraphicnovels.com/images/series/mangaBible/books/0310712874-NamesGamesRoad.jpg tah-DAH!!!

[Kali-chan]

I will not get into a religious debate, I will NOT get into a religious debate........

I'm a heavily devoted Catholic Christian, and I'm fighting not to get into a religious debate.......

But I will say since when is there hentai in the bible? I mean, if there was, then why are 7 year olds practicing for their 1st Reconciliation be encouraged to read it?

And as for the manga, I don't like the idea, but I will not put it down...

Will not get into a religious debate..........

[earsofdoom]

im a christian, and i would buy something if it was ALL manga, but i saw this (if it wasn't something the same) in a bookshop. it sucked. it was half book/half comic! bleh. anyway, how does the bible of all things have the makings of a hentai??????!!!!!! really, bible/japanese cartoon porn >_< (as i see it) don't mix. really.-_-;-_-;-_-;-_-;

I don't recall anyone saying it had the making of, just that there was sex in the bible and that if it was in a manga it would be "hentai". Though im sure rule 34 has had its way with this and someone out there will be writing Jesus/Toki slash fanfiction sadly.

[Tenou]

I don't recall anyone saying it had the making of, just that there was sex in the bible and that if it was in a manga it would be "hentai". Though im sure rule 34 has had its way with this and someone out there will be writing Jesus/Toki slash fanfiction sadly.

Actually, I said exactly that. I also backed up what I said. So if fruits_kitty333 and Kali-chan saw that I wrote 'the bible has the makings of a decent hentai' then they would, of course, read my entire post and not take what I said out of context, nor ignore the reasons why I said that.
So I think they're trying to make a joke.

But, just for a little fun, and because I think that everyone should appreciate art, do a google image search of 'Lot and his daughters'. You'll fine some fine examples of art, from Blake to Rembrandt.

[Fobb]

The Book of John: Secret Chapters

OMG, that title is totally win.