Fake Money Doesn't Fool Strippers

[Gray]

A man who authorities say used his computer to make fake $100 bills to buy lap dances at a strip club has pleaded guilty to counterfeiting charges, federal prosecutors said.

Strippers at Deja Vu in Nashville were suspicious of the bills and called police after Damon Armagost spent $600 of the fake money April 16, authorities said.

When officers arrived, Armagost first told them he got the money when he sold gold coins for $1,400 to an unidentified person.

U.S. Secret Service agents later determined that counterfeit bills with the same serial number had been passed in other parts of the country. When they went to Armagost's Smyrna home, about 20 miles southeast of Nashville, a family member told agents that an image of a $100 bill had been on a computer there.

Armagost then acknowledged that he had downloaded the image from the Internet and printed 14 of the bills, prosecutors said. He pleaded guilty Friday to manufacturing and passing counterfeit currency and has a sentencing date of Nov. 5.

Obviously they took some Detective Classes before heading off to the Stripper Academy.

[earsofdoom]

Obviously they took some Detective Classes before heading off to the Stripper Academy.

I don't imagine it was that hard to tell the bills were fake, the article doesn't mention anything about the kinda machinary usually used to make convinceing ones. probably just printed and ironed.

[Chousho]

Is it just me, or is Haru! confusing people as a faux Haro!?

I could smell the difference

[VidelCoolGirl]

Geez, what kind of printer do you have to have to do it..not that I would...

[Gray]

Geez, what kind of printer do you have to have to do it..not that I would...

I dunno, I imagine he musta used something special due to how bills are printed.... there's always Google search!

[Midoriko87]

It'd be so messed up if he printed those bills out on ordinary printer paper. :lol:

Stripper #1: "Hmm, does somethin' about these bills look odd to you?"

Stripper #2: "Well, now that you mention it... I do believe they have the same serial number!! By George, it would seem we have a Counterfeiter on our hands!!"

:lol:

Um, I'm not trying to say strippers are stupid or nothin' like that, just so we're all clear.

[VidelCoolGirl]

It'd be so messed up if he printed those bills out on ordinary printer paper. :lol:

Stripper #1: "Hmm, does somethin' about these bills look odd to you?"

Stripper #2: "Well, now that you mention it... I do believe they have the same serial number!! By George, it would seem we have a Counterfeiter on our hands!!"

:lol:

Um, I'm not trying to say strippers are stupid or nothin' like that, just so we're all clear.
Uh-huh...right. Actually, given most of them are actually very intelligent, just have low self-esteem. Can't say I can imagine hearing a stripper say "By George" though...

[Chousho]

You know, I actually can tell the difference between real and fake money. After having drunk business men stuffing bills into your nether regions for years, you develop a spider sense around your upper leg area for what an authentic bill should feel like.

[Jae Hoon]

You know, I actually can tell the difference between real and fake money. After having drunk business men stuffing bills into your nether regions for years, you develop a spider sense around your upper leg area for what an authentic bill should feel like.

So you are saying your a stripper.

[Chousho]

So you are saying your a stripper.
No, I'm saying you're a lousy tipper.

[TheCrowsCry]

People do the stupedist things, I mean stripclubs...please, so last year.

[Leader Desslock]

If I was going to try to pass fake currency, it wouldn't be in a place where the exits were guarded by bouncers. Maybe that's just me.

Uh-huh...right. Actually, given most of them are actually very intelligent, just have low self-esteem.
They get men to give them money in exchange for an enticing view of their bodies, night after night. How can they have low self esteem?

Can't say I can imagine hearing a stripper say "By George" though...
I believe the traditional stripper expletive is "Golly."

[Lone Signal]

Geez, what kind of printer do you have to have to do it..not that I would...An average joe could probably make a decent enough fake with an average printer. The material and the aligning is going to be the rough part.

[Bernard_Monsha]

An average joe could probably make a decent enough fake with an average printer. The material and the aligning is going to be the rough part.

No there are things to prevent that happening.

[Delta-Pheonix]

If only he stuck the internet :rolleyes:

[tenshi_a]

I've heard a stripper say "Lawd luv a duck" but I'm in England.

And some I've met were very intelligent. One girl was using it as the best paying part-time job going to get through her university course - this guy in the news story spent $600 in one night if that's any indication....

[Tenou]

Are US bills so easy to counterfeit (does the English language realize that there is a rule about 'i before e'?)
Personally, I don't like accepting US money because it doesn't have decent security features. Our money might look like it belongs in a Monopoly game, but at least it's a simple thing to spot a fake.

[Gray]

Are US bills so easy to counterfeit (does the English language realize that there is a rule about 'i before e'?)
Personally, I don't like accepting US money because it doesn't have decent security features. Our money might look like it belongs in a Monopoly game, but at least it's a simple thing to spot a fake.

.....Unless you start pulling out the monopoly money :O

[SlackerDude]

If I managed to make a few hundred dollars in counterfeit money I'd try it myself, even though that guy got caught. I mean just because ONE stripper got wise to it doesn't mean they're all eligible to work for the national engraving bureau, right?

[earsofdoom]

I've heard a stripper say "Lawd luv a duck" but I'm in England.

Wha? was she saying the name of the stripclub you went to or something? or is that a saying peaple outside of england wouldn't be familiar with.


And some I've met were very intelligent. One girl was using it as the best paying part-time job going to get through her university course - this guy in the news story spent $600 in one night if that's any indication....

I don't get why men pay so much just to see breast's, it seems really odd to me, but then again i've never been to or want to go to one of these clubs so maybe im missing something peaple would find enjoyable about them besides boobs.

[Tenou]

Wha? was she saying the name of the stripclub you went to or something? or is that a saying peaple outside of england wouldn't be familiar with.

Ecphonesis, like saying 'for the love of Pete' but with style. And I hear it, not with regularity, but often enough. I've even been known to say it, when it fits.


I don't get why men pay so much just to see breast's, it seems really odd to me, but then again i've never been to or want to go to one of these clubs so maybe im missing something peaple would find enjoyable about them besides boobs.

I recommend going, just once, to see what you're missing. You go, have fun with your mates, laugh at each other, buy each other lap dances. It can be fun. Or you could end up in one of the seedier establishments and have men... pleasuring themselves beside you.
Not that I recommend any of this. Really, demeans women, bad for equality, and what not.:naughty:

[Rurouni Saiyan]

Not that I recommend any of this. Really, demeans women, bad for equality, and what not.:naughty:


How so? They're doing it of their own free will.

[..Jenn..]

You can't stereotype people based on their job. Most people only work where they do to support themselves, not because it's their dream career which defines them, body & soul. You've got to have pretty high self esteem to feel that people would pay you to look at you. I don't think it's a demeaning job at all, women who know they look good- getting drooling guys to pay them for it. I don't think that's demeaning or bad for equality- it actually puts them a step ahead of their male customers if you think about it. :)

"Hello sir, can I please have five hundred dollars? Oh, no? Ok then, *flashes boobs* How about now?? :D Wow thanks buddy! see ya later...." :P

Anywho- fake money is easily recognized by most people- doesn't matter what their job happens to be. It's not rocket science.

[Reidar]

I recommend going, just once, to see what you're missing. You go, have fun with your mates, laugh at each other, buy each other lap dances. It can be fun.

Hell no. That is all.

[Tenou]

How so? They're doing it of their own free will.
Lord love a duck. Did you read my entire post? Did you see the smiley?

Not that I want to get into this, but it's not free will. Not all, but many get into exotic dancing and prostitution out of desperation. It's not 'when I grow up, I'm going to be a stripper.' It's 'well, I'm stupid, I can't stay at home, I have no money, I'm sexually abused already, men are always grabbing me anyway, I might as well get paid for it.'
She trades money, which no one can deny is necessary to live, for the use of her body, even if it's just to look.
She is reduced not to her body, but to her sex organs. She's not even a face. Not a person. She is to be used for pleasure never a though given to her feelings.
Women are entering the trade because they see it as a way for fast cash, paying for rent, luxuries, tuition. But how can you can't have respect for yourself when you put yourself in a place where you are surrounded, not merely by people who don't respect you, but don't even see you as a person. This goes for men as well, but well, that's not very feminist, now is it?

This perpetuates inequality, promotes discrimination against women and has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

[Rurouni Saiyan]

Lord love a duck. Did you read my entire post? Did you see the smiley?

Not that I want to get into this, but it's not free will. Not all, but many get into exotic dancing and prostitution out of desperation. It's not 'when I grow up, I'm going to be a stripper.' It's 'well, I'm stupid, I can't stay at home, I have no money, I'm sexually abused already, men are always grabbing me anyway, I might as well get paid for it.'
She trades money, which no one can deny is necessary to live, for the use of her body, even if it's just to look.
She is reduced not to her body, but to her sex organs. She's not even a face. Not a person. She is to be used for pleasure never a though given to her feelings.
Women are entering the trade because they see it as a way for fast cash, paying for rent, luxuries, tuition. But how can you can't have respect for yourself when you put yourself in a place where you are surrounded, not merely by people who don't respect you, but don't even see you as a person. This goes for men as well, but well, that's not very feminist, now is it?

This perpetuates inequality, promotes discrimination against women and has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Okay. And who's fault is it that she's reduced to just a body?

There are still more honorable venues of work available. That's just an excuse to perpetuate the victim mentality. We aren't living in third world countries (assuming this is an industrialized nation such as the U.S. or UK). People do have choices, you know. That'll be like me choosing to be a drug dealer just because I come from poverty.

All in all, it's their choice. Not like they were held at gunpoint and forced to do it. If they had any sort of self respect, the women, why would they be doing such a line of work in the first place?

Don't strike the match if you don't want a fire...regardless of smiley:)

[..Jenn..]

Lord love a duck. Did you read my entire post? Did you see the smiley?

Not that I want to get into this, but it's not free will. Not all, but many get into exotic dancing and prostitution out of desperation. It's not 'when I grow up, I'm going to be a stripper.' It's 'well, I'm stupid, I can't stay at home, I have no money, I'm sexually abused already, men are always grabbing me anyway, I might as well get paid for it.'
She trades money, which no one can deny is necessary to live, for the use of her body, even if it's just to look.
She is reduced not to her body, but to her sex organs. She's not even a face. Not a person. She is to be used for pleasure never a though given to her feelings.
Women are entering the trade because they see it as a way for fast cash, paying for rent, luxuries, tuition. But how can you can't have respect for yourself when you put yourself in a place where you are surrounded, not merely by people who don't respect you, but don't even see you as a person. This goes for men as well, but well, that's not very feminist, now is it?

This perpetuates inequality, promotes discrimination against women and has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Unless you're a woman who is working that job, or has been in that line of work, you can't possibly know what goes through their minds. Maybe you think you know what strip club customers think, but you don't speak for them all. A lot of guys tend to put strippers on a pedestal, even fall in love with them, so they aren't just a crotch and boobs to everyone who sees them working at the strip club. Many gentlemen who visit strip clubs happen to consider the girls who work there "friends" who they enjoy talking to and spending time with while at the clubs. You just don't know what you're talking about on this one, sorry. ^_^

Also....assuming every stripper is "stupid, sexually abused already, and willing to be paid to be sexually abused" is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard! What kind of fantasy world does your brain live in exactly?? LOL.

[tenshi_a]

uh-oh... calling Tenou "ignorant" is probably a bad idea...

...and she wasn't talking about all strippers, but some...

I guess it's really a role that needs a certain kind of mindset to be enjoyed. Some people realy like to be watched, and they love the job, and the fact they have people admiring their bodies. It's a kind of performance entertainment...

Now, excuse me. I need to go find some monopoly money and fob it off to Haru! as Canadian money...

[..Jenn..]

I didn't call Tenou "ignorant" I stated that what they said was ignorant, because it is ignorant. Assuming you know someone's feelings and exactly what they think and why is just ignorant. If it's just referring to "some" strippers, then sure, there are people who will be sexually abused, or stupid etc. all over the world regardless if they are a stripper or a waitress or a psychiatrist.

Pretty much all I'm trying to say is that- people are people and your job does not define you, and to assume all people who do one job are the same type of person, like some pre-fab android, is ridiculous. Thanks, I'm done now. :)

[Ariel Tsuki]

^ But you don't take account of the rising rate of substance abuse and the high possibility of attracting a stalker among strippers. Ask a stripper if she's really doing for the job and not the money, you prolly get a few saying that they love the job. Many of them hope to find a better job than stripping, especially you're being looked down upon by others.

[Tenou]

Okay. And who's fault is it that she's reduced to just a body?

There are still more honorable venues of work available. That's just an excuse to perpetuate the victim mentality. We aren't living in third world countries (assuming this is an industrialized nation such as the U.S. or UK). People do have choices, you know. That'll be like me choosing to be a drug dealer just because I come from poverty.

All in all, it's their choice. Not like they were held at gunpoint and forced to do it. If they had any sort of self respect, the women, why would they be doing such a line of work in the first place?

Don't strike the match if you don't want a fire...regardless of smiley:)I won't comment on honour. Honour is a social construct that differs culture to culture and places unnecessary and potentially incorrect value on a given action. In a society that still discriminates against women, objectifying them and having, in our recent history (relatively recent, guys) as not being considered 'persons' (in legal terms, unable to vote, hold property, etc.), viewing a woman as no more than a body places us back in to that role as a non person. Women don't come into the trade as an equal. They are exploited. Yes, I'm sure there are ways to create a non-exploitative industry, but not now in western society. There is too much inequality.

As for becoming a drug dealer because you come from poverty... take a look at the men and boys coming from poverty and entering the NBA. The same thing, the same kind of exploitation, though with a higher salary, hero worship, and socially acceptable. Did you notice the colour of their skin?

Why are there people living on the streets? Do you think they looked at where they came from and said, yeah, that was a really great family, but I'm looking for something new like starvation, having people spit at me as I walk by, and having what ever meager possessions I have stolen after I've been near beaten to death.
No. Many (not all, Jenn, as I've mentioned before) are there because starving on the streets is better than where they came from. And being a hooker or a stripper with enough money to pay for a slum apartment is better than sleeping in a door way or condemned building.

There is poverty here. Sickening poverty. No, it's not as bad as developing countries, but look at some of the reservations in the NWT or Yukon. Take a look as you're walking down a city street and actually look at the faces of the street people you pass. Take a trip to New Orleans.

Now, I could go into social conditioning of women, but that would be very long and I don't have the patients for it. So I'll let my previous statements stand.
Unless you're a woman who is working that job, or has been in that line of work, you can't possibly know what goes through their minds. Maybe you think you know what strip club customers think, but you don't speak for them all. A lot of guys tend to put strippers on a pedestal, even fall in love with them, so they aren't just a crotch and boobs to everyone who sees them working at the strip club. Many gentlemen who visit strip clubs happen to consider the girls who work there "friends" who they enjoy talking to and spending time with while at the clubs. You just don't know what you're talking about on this one, sorry. ^_^

Also....assuming every stripper is "stupid, sexually abused already, and willing to be paid to be sexually abused" is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard! What kind of fantasy world does your brain live in exactly?? LOL.

... Darling, honestly, I don't what to say to you. Life isn't Pretty Woman, no matter how hard you hope. So I'll say same goes. Look next time.

You need to learn how to read and identify rhetoric, it will make debates much more interesting and satisfying and avoid misunderstandings.

uh-oh... calling Tenou "ignorant" is probably a bad idea...

...and she wasn't talking about all strippers, but some...

I guess it's really a role that needs a certain kind of mindset to be enjoyed. Some people realy like to be watched, and they love the job, and the fact they have people admiring their bodies. It's a kind of performance entertainment...

Now, excuse me. I need to go find some monopoly money and fob it off to Haru! as Canadian money...Thank you, my dear. I've always wanted to have a knight in shining armour. Pity I never made a very good damsel in distress. It would have been so romantic to be a lonely princess locked up in a tower...

And, funny story: Canadian Tire, a chain of hardware stores here, produces it's own 'money' in 5, 10, 25, and 50 cents, 1 and 2 dollar bills. This 'money' is worthless outside of Canadian Tire and an affiliated gas station.
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/74/canadiantiremoneyil5.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=canadiantiremoneyil5.jpg)
Now, a couple of Canadians decide to take a trip south. And what do they do, they use Canadian Tire money. And I guess the clerk wasn't paying enough attention because it wasn't accepted in cents, but in dollars.
Hit the news pretty big, and the store owner looked very annoyed. Really put a dent in the 'honest Canadian' image. But the laugh was worth it.

I didn't call Tenou "ignorant" I stated that what they said was ignorant, because it is ignorant. Assuming you know someone's feelings and exactly what they think and why is just ignorant. If it's just referring to "some" strippers, then sure, there are people who will be sexually abused, or stupid etc. all over the world regardless if they are a stripper or a waitress or a psychiatrist.

Pretty much all I'm trying to say is that- people are people and your job does not define you, and to assume all people who do one job are the same type of person, like some pre-fab android, is ridiculous. Thanks, I'm done now. :)
Yeah, assuming you know some one's thoughts, experiences, knowledge, and life... yeah, that's pretty ignorant, wouldn't you say?

[tenshi_a]

Thank you, my dear. I've always wanted to have a knight in shining armour. Pity I never made a very good damsel in distress. It would have been so romantic to be a lonely princess locked up in a tower...

Shouts: "Hey everybody! Tenou wants locking up!"
Everybody: "We know!"

....sorry, that was too well set up for me to let go. :naughty:

I'm not really a knight in shining armour, you're really not sending distress signals... I was just hoping to get Jenn to withdraw before you'd come along and tell her that the world isn't all shiny and nice... she seems very innocent, well, the most innocent you can expect from a young lady talking about strippers.

And what do they do, they use Canadian Tire money. And I guess the clerk wasn't paying enough attention because it wasn't accepted in cents, but in dollars.

Strippers 1, Store clerk 0. :P

[HSaabedra]

I don't get why men pay so much just to see breast's, it seems really odd to me, but then again i've never been to or want to go to one of these clubs so maybe im missing something peaple would find enjoyable about them besides boobs.

Great thing about being from Dallas is the fact that you get to live around some of the greatest gentlemen's clubs in the world. However you choose to refer to them, they make the perfect venue for high-power businessmen (like myself) to entertain and be merry.

I figure most of the women in this thread have never been to such places and are working off of the conventional stereotypes that have been planted and disseminated into the minds of misandry-loving "feminists" and normal women.

I used to work as a clerk in both a sex shop and as a bartender in a gentlemen's club, and to my surprise none of the dancers fit the stereotype, with most of them offering me dates out on the town and some going into interesting careers like nanotech research or engineering. One even offered me a position in her new consulting firm specializing in wireless technology solutions and IT.

Most of the men that go to gentlemen's clubs are far from the stereotypes with most making a median income of $85,000 and being single with no dependents. To say that the women are being reduced to mere objects is funny when they know full well what they're getting into, esppecially if they have a highly desirable body type that is sought after by club operators.

There is also a tight connection to the pornography industry, but that really only comes into play if the club signs an affiliation contract with a production company. All of the women I've met are taking advantage of natural assets and exploiting them to their fullest.

This isn't demeaning, this is simple business sense. Is it a wonder men like to congregate at such places? As a man, I would be more than willing to pay and be entertained as well as share a few words with a beautiful woman, although I really don't have to. What you pay for is personal attention.

[Leader Desslock]

Why are there people living on the streets? Do you think they looked at where they came from and said, yeah, that was a really great family, but I'm looking for something new like starvation, having people spit at me as I walk by, and having what ever meager possessions I have stolen after I've been near beaten to death.
No. Many (not all, Jenn, as I've mentioned before) are there because starving on the streets is better than where they came from.
I'd say that a large percentage of America's homeless population is homeless because they're unable to adapt to modern American society. The life of homelessness might not be desirable, but it's something that can be understoo and managed.

People fear many things, but nothing so much as the unknown. People who cannot understand or manage the demands of living in modern American society might well opt for a harsh, yet comprehensible life on the streets.

And being a hooker or a stripper with enough money to pay for a slum apartment is better than sleeping in a door way or condemned building.
Arguably, yes.

Great thing about being from Dallas is the fact that you get to live around some of the greatest gentlemen's clubs in the world... none of the dancers fit the stereotype, with most of them offering me dates out on the town and some going into interesting careers like nanotech research or engineering. One even offered me a position in her new consulting firm specializing in wireless technology solutions and IT.
In the better gentleman's clubs, located in major cities with good options for college-level education, I'd argue this is more the norm than the exception.

[Hara!]

Stripping isn´t really immoral. They are just providing a service. There, I said it.