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MrKoreanguy
August 24th, 2007, 09:00 PM
Since I watched up to the point of fillers (so first 100 or so? I forgot), I think I can safely say this: Naruto is not educational for the children.

Throughout the Anime, there are some great characters who work hard: Neji and Lee. Lee, exceptionally. However, the character I want to concentrate on is Lee right now.

Isn't it encouraging to see 100+ flashbacks (not meant to offend) of Lee training vigorously with Might Guy? He should win fights and actually show the preteens that hard work pays off. But nope. It's all about pre-destination than free will. And this is where I think people who created Naruto are Calvinists.

It's like "You like hard work? Good for you. You'll eternally damned anyway." for every single hard-working character in that show. Now I don't know what happens in current arcs, but as far as I remember, Lee never really won in official fights besides that one little friendly duel between him and Sasuke near the beginning.

So therefore, I conclude this by saying that Naruto teaches children to rely on their hereditary traits and luck rather than hard work and dedication that most things in life require.

Dan
August 24th, 2007, 10:23 PM
So therefore, I conclude this by saying that Naruto teaches children to rely on their hereditary traits and luck rather than hard work and dedication that most things in life require.

I don't disagree with your assessment, but I personally don't see it as a bad thing.

On another note, keep in mind that Lee is basically physically handicapped in the Naruto universe. Not because of his injury, but his inability to use chakra. He's basically on par with someone with Down's Syndrome or Multiple Sclerosis. Is a person with Down's Syndrome going to be able to mentally outperform someone without who has the same level of education? Of course not. Is someone with MS going to beat even an obese person in a footrace? No way. Can they still lead worthwhile, fufilling lives? Of course. And thats what Lee does, he can't "beat" the other kids but he tries very hard and achieves incredibly well for someone with his condition. I don't think its a very bad message at all.

Gray
August 24th, 2007, 10:34 PM
Naruto isnt meant to be some kind of 'life lesson' that you should show your children so they can grow up properly. Lol.

I do hope that this is some sort of the joke post, because the point of your statement is so ridculous it's sad. Your trying to make comparisons to a show from japan with how children should be raised. Thats your first mistake because how the Japanese people view things is far different than how we see them.

"It's like "You like hard work? Good for you. You'll eternally damned anyway." for every single hard-working character in that show. Now I don't know what happens in current arcs, but as far as I remember, Lee never really won in official fights besides that one little friendly duel between him and Sasuke near the beginning."

It's made to be ENTERTAINMENT not lessons on life, FYI.

Lone Signal
August 24th, 2007, 10:36 PM
Who doesn't think Lee is a badass, despite his battle losses?

You'll have a better case if you start bringing in something about the Suiken.

Leinhart
August 24th, 2007, 11:07 PM
eff that ill kick lee's ***. Also Lee's ugly, this is meant to discourage ugly people only, sasuke on the other hand is pure sex. Also in Naruto, Uzamaki Naruto himself is the underdog, he excels and rises above others. It's just to show real life, everyone gives it there best shot at something but does everyone make it? no. Naruto is good for pre-teens because it gives them a dose of the truth, which is something there dads belt cant teach.

Dark_Knight
August 24th, 2007, 11:52 PM
I made a note about Lee in another thread that uses the same basis...

And I don't think you can link Lee's disability to DS or MS. Unlike those people, there's nothing wrong with Lee's body or mind, aside from his inability to use chakra. He can think just as well as the next person, he can plan things out just as well, he can move a god damn lot faster than most people... I'd say his inability to use chakra is more on the scale of someone who's blind in one eye.

SlackerDude
August 25th, 2007, 04:36 AM
sasuke on the other hand is pure sex.

..Um, he's 13 ..... O_o

MrKoreanguy
August 25th, 2007, 07:56 AM
Naruto isnt meant to be some kind of 'life lesson' that you should show your children so they can grow up properly. Lol.

I do hope that this is some sort of the joke post, because the point of your statement is so ridculous it's sad. Your trying to make comparisons to a show from japan with how children should be raised. Thats your first mistake because how the Japanese people view things is far different than how we see them.

"It's like "You like hard work? Good for you. You'll eternally damned anyway." for every single hard-working character in that show. Now I don't know what happens in current arcs, but as far as I remember, Lee never really won in official fights besides that one little friendly duel between him and Sasuke near the beginning."

It's made to be ENTERTAINMENT not lessons on life, FYI.

It should have been obvious that this was a joke when I mentioned Calvinism. But oh well. I still like Lee and Shikamaru. That's the only serious thing I said in my post.

Cow
August 25th, 2007, 08:34 AM
Don't be a comedian.

MrKoreanguy
August 25th, 2007, 08:58 AM
Okay. (filler)

Dan
August 25th, 2007, 06:16 PM
I made a note about Lee in another thread that uses the same basis...

And I don't think you can link Lee's disability to DS or MS. Unlike those people, there's nothing wrong with Lee's body or mind, aside from his inability to use chakra. He can think just as well as the next person, he can plan things out just as well, he can move a god damn lot faster than most people... I'd say his inability to use chakra is more on the scale of someone who's blind in one eye.

I'll agree he isn't as far disabled as DS or MS, but there IS something wrong with his body, which boils down to "can't use magic" in a ficticious universe where everyone uses magic. Your example is fairly valid, but "blind in one eye" just sounds weird. Maybe he has muscular dystrophy or something. Whatever it doesn't matter but the point is is that Lee is handicapped in some way, and usually the handicapped cannot physically overcome someone of equal fitness, etc. who is not handicapped. Thats Lee's problem

Dark_Knight
August 25th, 2007, 09:12 PM
Eh, well, I've got a friend who's blind in one eye. We both like sword duels (who says they're for little kids only!?) and he's probably the best out of the five of us.

But I agree. Someone with equal skills, without the disability could defeat Lee.

Hara!
August 25th, 2007, 09:48 PM
The show is made for kids. Seriously.

appletini
August 26th, 2007, 07:22 AM
everytime i want a erection i think of lee's hardwork to inspire me

baltro27
August 26th, 2007, 06:21 PM
actually naruto never was supposed to. but the us dubbers F***ed it all up. and now all non anime fans think its a kids show

Hara!
August 26th, 2007, 06:32 PM
actually naruto never was supposed to. but the us dubbers F***ed it all up. and now all non anime fans think its a kids show

It IS a kid´s show.

Brill
August 28th, 2007, 06:29 AM
Naruto has enough content to make it controversioal like violence, it's philosophical snippits are not one of them.. This shows preaches that it takes more than just hard work to achieve ones goals in the world. What's wrong with that?

Hara!
August 28th, 2007, 08:25 AM
For anyone to find it controversial, they´d have to take a stretch.

Brill
August 28th, 2007, 08:42 AM
For Naruto's violent content? That's a very realistic issue. Naruto is probably the most violent show aired to pre-teens to date in the US. Some kids aren't capable of digesting that material at this stage in their lives. So for some concerned parents it will be very controversial.

Animematt55
August 28th, 2007, 08:48 AM
..Um, he's 13 ..... O_o

lol pedo

Naruto isn't ment to be some kind of life lesson. It is basically the 'cool' character (Sasuke), and the underdog character (Naruto), both types that younger audiences like, fighting and winning.

ZeroRyoko1974
August 28th, 2007, 08:51 AM
there are fare worse things preteens can watch. My god, if they don't watch Naruto, they may end up watching Spongebob

The Million Dollar Prons
August 28th, 2007, 08:57 AM
Naruto is bad for everyone.

ZeroRyoko1974
August 28th, 2007, 09:21 AM
its been known to cause cancer in labratory tests.

Gaara88
August 30th, 2007, 10:52 PM
Roar!!

When i grow up im going to be rock lee!! :)

Hellsartist
September 26th, 2007, 03:34 PM
Naruto is for the general age of 12-17, and as far as i understand, it may not be a kids show, but it is a show for younger to older teenagers. ... ...I had a lot more to say but i've completely forgotten my point and I have class, later XD!

Aya Nakamura
September 26th, 2007, 04:13 PM
Seriously now....Its a show about ninjas im fairly sure its not meant to be educational or provide some life lessons..jeez its not some after school special now is it

Hellsartist
September 26th, 2007, 06:58 PM
Everybody go yay! :D

goddessofanime
September 26th, 2007, 07:10 PM
Since I watched up to the point of fillers (so first 100 or so? I forgot), I think I can safely say this: Naruto is not educational for the children.

Throughout the Anime, there are some great characters who work hard: Neji and Lee. Lee, exceptionally. However, the character I want to concentrate on is Lee right now.

Isn't it encouraging to see 100+ flashbacks (not meant to offend) of Lee training vigorously with Might Guy? He should win fights and actually show the preteens that hard work pays off. But nope. It's all about pre-destination than free will. And this is where I think people who created Naruto are Calvinists.

It's like "You like hard work? Good for you. You'll eternally damned anyway." for every single hard-working character in that show. Now I don't know what happens in current arcs, but as far as I remember, Lee never really won in official fights besides that one little friendly duel between him and Sasuke near the beginning.

So therefore, I conclude this by saying that Naruto teaches children to rely on their hereditary traits and luck rather than hard work and dedication that most things in life require.

If you think Naruto is supposed to be educational, you crazy.