Jk steals her storys?

[Nano]

Is it just me or is the last harry potter very alike Lord of the rings return of the king?
What else does she take from??

[Daishikaze]

Lots of better writers have borrowed from Tolkien, so its not really a big deal these days

[ecchi]

There are too many books in the world. Authors copy ideas off each other, so what? Ideas can't be completely new anymore.

[Tenou]

Is it just me or is the last harry potter very alike Lord of the rings return of the king?
What else does she take from??

'Borrows' from the bible too. Jesus brought people back from the dead. Harry brought people back from the dead. Jesus died. Harry died. Jesus didn't stay dead. Harry didn't stay dead. Allegory? I think NOT!

[Animematt55]

There are too many books in the world. Authors copy ideas off each other, so what? Ideas can't be completely new anymore.

exactly. Everyone wants something original these days. But nothing is!
If they wanted original, Harry would be a hermaphrodite, with a third arm.

[Jae Hoon]

Almost every fantasy writter borrows from Tolkien self admittedly.

[Tenou]

exactly. Everyone wants something original these days. But nothing is!
If they wanted original, Harry would be a hermaphrodite, with a third arm.That's been done... play by the name of... Volpone? Jonson. You'd think Marlow, what with some of his master/slave plots, but no.

[Vaikyuko]

Every story has been done, no matter how original, at some point. The skill of an author is how well they can spin the tale to someone who's already heard it, and have them enjoy it.

[Ken-Ohki]

NONE of Shakespeare's stories are original.

In fact in my theater history class we discussed how the only original story from the days of Greek theater is Groundhog Day.

[Leader Desslock]

If they wanted original, Harry would be a hermaphrodite, with a third arm.
That'd be a ripoff from Zaphod Beeblebrox, in The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy. He had a second head and third arm attached to pursue his favorite sport of Ski-Boxing.

And the luck potion that Harry drank in The Order Of The Phoenix? That's how Zaphod feels every moment of every day, man. It's the only way he was able to survive the Total Perspective Vortex.

AND!! In the movie, Snape did the voice of Marvin!

Rowling's ripping off Douglas Adams!

[Bernard_Monsha]

Rowling's ripping off Douglas Adams!


Your on to something

Main characters

Harry + Hermione + Ron + Snape + Voldemort + Dumbledore = 6

7 books = 7

6 x 7 = 42

Adams estate should sue right now!!!!!!

[Solid_Snake]

Watch Troll. And try to tell me she doesn't borrow.

[Bezerker]

Im pretty sure the 'One cannot live while the other survives' could be a play on Smith & Neo in the Matrix

[Tenou]

Im pretty sure the 'One cannot live while the other survives' could be a play on Smith & Neo in the MatrixWhich the Matrix stole from myths, legends, and stories from pretty much every culture. Those kind of prophecies aren't new.

[Delta-Pheonix]

Your on to something

Main characters

Harry + Hermione + Ron + Snape + Voldemort + Dumbledore = 6

7 books = 7

6 x 7 = 42

Adams estate should sue right now!!!!!!

Bernard wins the internet once again.

otherwise though i have no idea as to how Deathly hollows relates to return of the king.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

You may remember there's two characters named after AN forum members.

James "Prons" Potter
Soluzar Slyterhin.

It's obvious JK rowling is a fan of Fish/Biscuit yaoi slash.

[Nano]

otherwise though i have no idea as to how Deathly hollows relates to return of the king.

Frodo wears the ring around his neck and it trys to poison his mind and take over

They have to wear the first hourox around their necks and it affects them in a bad way.

Frodo has to destroy the ring that keeps whatever #his name is connected to the world and without it he dies.

Harry and the others basically doing the very same thing.

[ZeroRyoko1974]

(I am always up for stirring up trouble) She stole from anime and manga, she is the lowest of the low :lol:

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Frodo wears the ring around his neck and it trys to poison his mind and take over

They have to wear the first hourox around their necks and it affects them in a bad way.

Frodo has to destroy the ring that keeps whatever #his name is connected to the world and without it he dies.

Harry and the others basically doing the very same thing.


Finding similarities to Lord of the Rings isn't a huge deal though, dare you to find one book that has no similarity to Tolkien's works.

[Delta-Pheonix]

Finding similarities to Lord of the Rings isn't a huge deal though, dare you to find one book that has no similarity to Tolkien's works.

QFT theres so much...well everything in the world now it's almost impossible to make somthing that has a possible reference to somthing else, even without realising it.

[Shiroiyuki]

^Yep, there are no new ideas. Just new ways to profit off of old ones.

[Samurai Drifter]

Is it just me or is the last harry potter very alike Lord of the rings return of the king?
It's just you.

[max payne]

Is it just me or is the last harry potter very alike Lord of the rings return of the king?
What else does she take from??

Tolkein stole his ideas from Norse mythology. Well, Norse mythology but with added descriptions of parties that last forever, made up silly language and a phobia of industry. Tolkein wasn't exactly original himself.

[Anamin]

Also Robert Jordan probably took some ideas from Tolkien. Lan totally = Aragorn.

[Leader Desslock]

Tolkein stole his ideas from Norse mythology...
Well, European mythology. They're not exclusively Norse, by any means. (If they were, he'd have named the series "Ah! My Hobbit" - a story about a good-natured but shy young hobbit engineer whose wish to live with one of the Maia is accidently granted.)

...made up silly language...
In the many years I've studied English literature, writing and linguistics, that's possibly the first time I've heard anyone dismiss Tolkein's linguistic accomplishments as "silly". Tolkein's mind was wired for language in the same way Mozart's mind was wired for music.

[Samurai Drifter]

In the many years I've studied English literature, writing and linguistics, that's possibly the first time I've heard anyone dismiss Tolkein's linguistic accomplishments as "silly". Tolkein's mind was wired for language in the same way Mozart's mind was wired for music.
This.

Middle Earth was built up around the languages.

[Gibb]

'Borrows' from the bible too. Jesus brought people back from the dead. Harry brought people back from the dead. Jesus died. Harry died. Jesus didn't stay dead. Harry didn't stay dead. Allegory? I think NOT!

My pastor thinks that Harry Potter is a modern day retelling of the story of the Antichrist from the bible. I haven't read that part of the bible, or the Harry Potter books, so I can't really comment.

I feel there's nothing wrong with books or movies being similar to other books or movies. It's impossible to think of a storyline without getting inspiration from something else first. I doubt many people lived in caves for 50 years before deciding to write a New York Times Bestseller.

[Animematt55]

My pastor thinks that Harry Potter is a modern day retelling of the story of the Antichrist from the bible.
It is a common theory from the christian/catholic people. They think it is the evilest book ever because of wizards and everything.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

It is a common theory from the christian/catholic people. They think it is the evilest book ever because of wizards and everything.

I can see a resemblence between Voldermort and the anti-christ. After all, he rose in the East, used his charisma and polished tongue too gather a massive ammount of followers, and was beaten by the son of his enemy.

[Nano]

I can see a resemblence between Voldermort and the anti-christ. After all, he rose in the East, used his charisma and polished tongue too gather a massive ammount of followers, and was beaten by the son of his enemy.

They should like it then shouldn't they? At least since the series has finished and we all know how it ends.

[Animematt55]

I can see a resemblence between Voldermort and the anti-christ. After all, he rose in the East, used his charisma and polished tongue too gather a massive ammount of followers, and was beaten by the son of his enemy.

That story has been around for thousands and thousands of years. It really isnt anything specific to the bible.
It is mainly the witchcraft that the christians don't like. COme on people, these are the people that thought Card Captor Sakura was satanic.

[Jae Hoon]

The Smurfs were Satanic to according to the media.

[Nano]

The Smurfs were Satanic to according to the media.

According to Donnnie Darko they had gang bangs

[Samurai Drifter]

The Smurfs were Satanic to according to the media.
As was DnD.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

That story has been around for thousands and thousands of years. It really isnt anything specific to the bible.


But most people have read the bible and are familiar with it's stories and messages. There were things like dwarves and elves eras before Lord of the Rings was published, but I think most modern authors based their dwarves off LotR's dwarves, rather than older depeictions.

[Neo0tak0n]

But most people have read the bible and are familiar with it's stories and messages. There were things like dwarves and elves eras before Lord of the Rings was published, but I think most modern authors based their dwarves off LotR's dwarves, rather than older depeictions.

Precisely. Its why he is often considered the father of modern fantasy, as opposed to the fantasy style of say, Alice in Wonderland. Tolkien set the standard for the modern fantasy archetypes of the dwarf, the elf, the hobbit (halfling), the ranger, the wizard, and the orcs. He brought back the Epic.

And its always good to read The Hobbit which although clearly modern and similiar to Lord of the Rings, it still has a touch of the older-school fantasy. The elves are a bit more whimsical and sing-songy, and the dwarves are comical much more than they are later in the history of middle earth. He also almost exlcusively uses the terms goblins instead of orcs. Orc is a harsher sounding word, much less mischievous than 'goblin' and a lot more murderous.

As for the original topic...I make fun of harry potter as much as I can, but I never thought that it seemed to rip off Lord of the Rings in any way.

[Genocide]

The Smurfs were Satanic to according to the media.

I read an amusing but sadly serious article on why Pokémon cards were a medium used by Satan to ensnare the souls of young children. Apparantly the cards forced children to invite demonic posession.

But the Pope likes pokeymons so don't panic anyone!

[Bernard_Monsha]

The Smurfs were Satanic to according to the media.

Smurfs are commies. It stands for Socialist Men Under Red Father, Papa Smurf look like Marx/Stalin hybred and wears a red cap, Brainy is Trotsky, the evil capatilist who is drawn with anti-semetic overtones is Gargamel. They look the same except those divided by labour, the worker smurfs are praised the artist are derided, sounds like as bunch o' commie propaganda to me.

[Chousho]

these are the people that thought Card Captor Sakura was satanic.
Uhh, I'm a Christian and don't think CCS is satanic. Don't be so quick to generalize all people into a group <_<

[Bernard_Monsha]

Uhh, I'm a Christian and don't think CCS is satanic. Don't be so quick to generalize all people into a group <_<

He is one of those "Satanist" who is a "Satanist" because he desperatley wants to be counter culture and piss people off. Always a great reason to consider when you choose your spiritual path.

P.S. I knew you belonged to the holy order of Our Lady of the Buttered Sheep of Lower East South East Andorra.

[Gibb]

Uhh, I'm a Christian and don't think CCS is satanic. Don't be so quick to generalize all people into a group <_<

I felt like correcting him, but couldn't think of anything witty to say.

There are as many types of christians as there are types of anime. I'm a very easy going christian, and you could say almost anything to me and I wouldn't be offended. I watch all sorts of anime and play all sorts of games that would probably offend other christians.

[ZeroRyoko1974]

I read an amusing but sadly serious article on why Pokémon cards were a medium used by Satan to ensnare the souls of young children. Apparently the cards forced children to invite demonic possession.

But the Pope likes pokeymons so don't panic anyone!

but it only works if you have a millennium item

[Chousho]

P.S. I knew you belonged to the holy order of Our Lady of the Buttered Sheep of Lower East South East Andorra.
:lol: If only you knew about our secret hand shake.

I watch all sorts of anime and play all sorts of games that would probably offend other christians.
Same here, I'm usually most offensive after eating garlic.
I can kind of see how some of the older people have a mentality to certain things, but being steeped in cultural belief of religion and actual convictions of belief are two different things, I think.

At any rate, I haven't read Harry Potter. It's not because of the content, it's just from watching the movies I've gotten kind of turned off and find it boring. It seems to me the movie is more for people that have read the book than for actual entertainment of the general audience. Having seen a few of the movies (seen/slept), I think it kind of ruined it for me.

[Opium Tea]

Is it just me or is the last harry potter very alike Lord of the rings return of the king?
What else does she take from??

Then again---most fantasy borrows at least SOMEWHAT from Lord of the Rings---

I'm not sure if I would call that plagarism--everything in literature is derivative of everything else---not that I'd give JK Rowling any awards for originality but---I think it's different enough to be considered her own story.