HARD meets SOFT

[VSh]

Intel security music video, directed by Christopher Guest. Hardware vs. software security: I can't believe the actors kept a straight face while filming this.

Can't agree more: http://www.intel.com/go/itgetseasier/index.htm

By the way, latest Intel chips are scary vulnerable.

[Soluzar]

By the way, latest Intel chips are scary vulnerable.
It's not going to stop them selling by the bucketload though. Not as long as they are so far ahead of AMD in terms of performance. If you want serious performance at the moment, there can be no discussion regarding what brand of CPU to go for. Whether you really need that level of performance or not is debatable, but since when did PC ricers care about what they needed?

[HSaabedra]

It's not going to stop them selling by the bucketload though. Not as long as they are so far ahead of AMD in terms of performance. If you want serious performance at the moment, there can be no discussion regarding what brand of CPU to go for. Whether you really need that level of performance or not is debatable, but since when did PC ricers care about what they needed?

Most of the benchmarks you see for Intel chips are overinflated due to the fact that SSE4 optimization is being used.

If both an Athlon X2 and Conroe were setup evenly and ran the same copy of DVDx with SSE3 and no optimization for each architecture (AMD64 off and EMT64 off) the results would be even regardless of clock speed, powersaving even more so.

The quad core chips are nothing to write home about since they are not actual quad core designs, and are overkill right now as I'm waiting for CAD/CAM/CFD/CNC programs to catch up before deciding on which platform to sink money into.

[HSaabedra]

Can't agree more: http://www.intel.com/go/itgetseasier/index.htm

By the way, latest Intel chips are scary vulnerable.

Those vulnerabilities make no difference in the real world whatsoever. AMD chips have had similar vulnerabilities for years, but no one jumps on them because they're seen as the underdog while intel is seen as the evil monopoly, which is far from the truth. AMD should have started development on quad core HyperTransport designs in '03, but they were too busy resting on their laurels and are paying the price right now.

[{NG}Fidel]

I was going to share my thoughts but Axl beat me to the punch.
Intel needs to move towards Native Quad Core.
Atop of that the FSB system is getting stupid. They keep uping their CPU caches to insanse amounts (12megs for Xenons) in order to counter the latency of the FSB. I guess Intel can do that no problem with there flash memory bussiness and better CPU fab processes though.

[Gray]

I've got an AMD X2 Dual-Core and im pretty pleased with its performance. I agree with the others saying that the Quad-Core chips arn't anything overly special. After all, make a list of how many programs can even utilize that kind of Processing Power to its fullest? :lol:

Hell, most PC games dont even have Dual-Core support(Which is a damn shame, cause the only thing this other core does for me is help with Multi Tasking)

[VSh]

Regarding performance. Customers are interested in maximum performance for their available money. Here Intel is far behind, but some customers don't understand it yet.

Regarding security. Have you read errata? Very impressive. It is only question of time, fraudulent code that use exploits will appear soon. I can see some possibilities. Here Intel is very forward. Sure, any CPU has bugs, but AMD errata doesn't look so exploitable to me, hence it is more difficult to hackers.

Regarding video. No comments? Or it is just plain bad?

[Soluzar]

Regarding performance. Customers are interested in maximum performance for their available money. Here Intel is far behind, but some customers don't understand it yet.
The hype worked on me, but I'm still an AMD user, due to cost issues. The cheapest rig I could find that mat with my needs was an AMD rig. I'm regretting it at my leisure, now. That has only to do with the choice of motherboard, though.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Computers go... METAL

[{NG}Fidel]

For the majority of customers right now Intel has the performance, but even if they didnt it wouldnt matter. They would still sell a boatload of CPUs regardless.

[VSh]

For the majority of customers right now Intel has the performance, but even if they didnt it wouldnt matter. They would still sell a boatload of CPUs regardless.

We (as smart customers) can only win from this. :P

[Hybrid Shock]

How did it go from a link about Remote management through hardware (admittedly with a crappy song and video), to performance issues with Intel and AMD processors?

Ignoring the performance issues (and lets be honest, unless you're a hardcore gamer or have a specalised issue, who really gives a rats arse anymore.. it's not like you need a top end processor to post here..), i like it. remote management through hardware has lots of useful potential.. mind you, any kind of remote management has lots of potential...

EDIT: video does need to die in a fire though...

[goddessofanime]

You know when I saw HARD vs SOFT...my mind went to the gutter...(as usual)

[Bernard_Monsha]

Can't agree more: http://www.intel.com/go/itgetseasier/index.htm



I finally looked at this, it makes me hate anything related to computers so much more now.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...hard meets soft? sounds like a porno to me...

[MonkeyBoy0314]

I was expecting something sexy when I saw the thread title. Oh well...

[Ikari Warrior]

I was expecting something sexy when I saw the thread title. Oh well...

And what's sexier than processors, seriously?