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Anamin
August 13th, 2007, 11:14 AM
Has anyone read the trilogy? I'm listening on audiobook right now to The Amber Spyglass. Is it just me or does this thing take a turn waaay into left field?
The first two books were alright with the first being 'ok this is something new' and the second ' ok this is wierd' and the third is 'ok what the heck is going on here?'
Thoughts?
Tom Servo
August 13th, 2007, 12:21 PM
The amber spyglass is the one with the square-shaped elephants on roller skates isn't it, they skate around on these specially constructed paths.
The line I remember from that series (from the end of the amber spyglass I think) was:
Thingymajig's and whatsherface's lips touched together like delicate butterflies. Awwww.
I started to reread 'the northern lights' only a couple of months ago but I didn't finish it off. That series is very readable and fun, I don't remember the subtle knife being that odd, but the third book was strange and felt a bit forced.
How far are you into the third book? Got to the bit where all the folks from different dimensions are amassing together at that fortress?
Holy Knight
August 13th, 2007, 01:37 PM
Great series, even though that's the only thing I remember of it since I read it way back when I was 11. I think I liked book 2 most, but found the first to have the better story. I'll have to re-read them as I don't think I "got" everything the first time me being so young.
Caine
August 13th, 2007, 01:58 PM
They were excellent, though very odd. I thought the whole religion thing was interesting but a bit awkward at times. They were definitely worth reading. I migt have ot consider rereading them
Anamin
August 13th, 2007, 02:22 PM
The amber spyglass is the one with the square-shaped elephants on roller skates isn't it, they skate around on these specially constructed paths.
The line I remember from that series (from the end of the amber spyglass I think) was:
Thingymajig's and whatsherface's lips touched together like delicate butterflies. Awwww.
I started to reread 'the northern lights' only a couple of months ago but I didn't finish it off. That series is very readable and fun, I don't remember the subtle knife being that odd, but the third book was strange and felt a bit forced.
How far are you into the third book? Got to the bit where all the folks from different dimensions are amassing together at that fortress?
Yes I got that far. I think I'm at the last couple of discs.
And LOL!! Yeah the wierd elephant-like things and the Dr. who has nothing to do with anything except "sroth" which is like conscience or something like that. Just wierd. . .I wanna know what sorts of drugs that PP was on when he wrote this last novel.
boomsnapclap
August 13th, 2007, 04:47 PM
I read this a while ago, but I really liked the series.
I'ma have to re-read it, though.
I'm waiting for the movie, The Golden Compass, which comes out in December. :)
Anamin
August 13th, 2007, 09:15 PM
I read this a while ago, but I really liked the series.
I'ma have to re-read it, though.
I'm waiting for the movie, The Golden Compass, which comes out in December. :)
The Movie looks like it's gonna be really good. I'd like to see what they do with it.
Tom Servo
August 15th, 2007, 10:43 AM
I was reading through the wiki article on the trilogy, trying to remind myself what the elephant-thingys had to do with the dust - and I came across this bit:
"Pullman's "Authority" is a weak, false god. It is presented to be the Christian God (but more similar to the Gnostic idea of Demiurge), as opposed to a dictatorial impostor."
I wonder if I got that idea when I read those books as a kid then?
The Subtle Knife: The Montauk Connection
I thought 'the golden compass' was a dumbing down of the altheometer, but it turns out the golden compass is the name of the first book in the north american release.
Anamin
August 15th, 2007, 11:03 AM
I was reading through the wiki article on the trilogy, trying to remind myself what the elephant-thingys had to do with the dust - and I came across this bit:
"Pullman's "Authority" is a weak, false god. It is presented to be the Christian God (but more similar to the Gnostic idea of Demiurge), as opposed to a dictatorial impostor."
I wonder if I got that idea when I read those books as a kid then?
The Subtle Knife: The Montauk Connection
I thought 'the golden compass' was a dumbing down of the altheometer, but it turns out the golden compass is the name of the first book in the north american release.
Interesting.
Still, I'm finding it hard to grasp his whole concept of 'god', Mrs. Coulter's 180 degree change of character simply because of Lyra and finally, why Lyra is trying to 'free' the 'dead' and what purpose there is in that, and finally what the f Lord Asriel (Azriel) is trying to accomplish by defeating Metatron (made me think of Megatron of Transformers fame) aka Enoch the sixth generation from Adam in the bible, and then possibly God himself. . .yeah whu? I guess I'll have to see it through to the end.
Yes, The Golden Compass is the title of the first book over here.
Delta-Pheonix
August 20th, 2007, 05:39 AM
Read the last two, never got round to reading the first great series none the less.
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