shippuden episode 24

[Cow]

This was Okay. The last half of the episode was good, I really could care less about Gai's fighting right now, or Naruto playing cat and mouse. I was satisfied and the last minute made it all worth wild. That and whats going to happen next episode :)

Opening and closing showed previews to the new movie, which looks like your a typical Naruto film.

[Gaara88]

Just about to watch it now, not to excited but ;(

[Atherakhia]

Wow, this episode was lame. What did we have 10mins of horribly animated fight sequences between team B?

And I hope you're right about the intro sequence. I was worried it was a sign that fillers were on the horizon.

[ffl]

Why would fillers even creep into this at this point?

Anyway, for those who've followed any of the Naruto movie 4 info, it was quite clear where the scenes were from. They've also added movie scenes into openings when the third Naruto movie came out and also when the Bleach movie was released.

Regarding the episode, I disliked the repetitive Gai team fights, since Neji and Tenten were the only ones who didn't have the same sparring animation repeated over and over and over...

It seemed like the final punch from Sakura was also missing a frame or two of the impact, but... perhaps it'll be better animated next episode. Anyway, it's something to look forward to.

[ZeroRyoko1974]

Episode 24....Sakura broke things, team b had their 30sec of fighting, naruto and kakashi continue to fly around, short montage of Tsunade training Sakura (I guess Tsunade beat the boobs out of Sakura and why she is flat as a board now)

[Cow]

Team Gai's fighting was animated horribly.

[Woooh]

What a ridiculously horrible episode. After looking forward to this one due to a fairly done last episode, I was expecting something much better, not looped and useless Gai fights and Sakura just continually punching blocks for the entire episode. Also, we had a few of my favorite lines in there, "I'll have to use that! >.<!" So far, Shippuuden is really not doing well...

[Siendra]

Why was the animation so god damn terrible? I've seen Flash based Naruto fan vids that animate better. I mean, that was ridiculous.

[Dan]

Opening and closing showed previews to the new movie, which looks like your a typical Naruto film.

oh.. thank goodness thats all it was. I started to get nervous thinking it was some kind of filler preview.

Phew....

[ffl]

Why was the animation so god damn terrible? I've seen Flash based Naruto fan vids that animate better. I mean, that was ridiculous.

I've got no verification for this yet, but one plausible explanation that was given was that the animation team that worked on this episode was fired when they had only completed 10 minutes worth of this episode. So the studio just took what was already there and looped it around to fill up the rest of the time. Also, as I mentioned earlier, it looked like there were a few frames missing at the end there, so this explanation would answer the questions as to why it was so bad. Don't ask me for proof about that though. I'm waiting on that myself. It was mentioned that this team did two episodes before this one, but I don't recall the episode numbers.

I'm expecting this to be one of the episodes that they do a near-total rehaul on for the DVD release.

[Dan]

welll, thats about as plausible as "there was an earthquake and they couldn't finish" or "someone went postal on the studio and they couldn't finish". But seriously, that was some TERRIBLE animation with that zoomed out Gai fight, same 3 frames over and over....

My bet is cheap Korean labor. You get what you pay for, and Pierrot just wanted it done.

Have they redone eps, though?

[ffl]

Nevermind. The OP of that just said that they made it up...

Anyway, yeah, for the DVDs they redo poor parts of an episode and typically just raise the quality of it. The episodes that are airing in the U.S. right now use the DVD quality animation and artwork. Most people who've compared the two can see some subtle differences, for example, in the second episode when we see Kurenai, she originally looked messed up, but in the version that was aired in the U.S., she was made to match what we normally see of her. Anyway, since this is a canon episode and not filler, I can see them redoing this one... unless it's a total loss of an episode.

[Cow]

This episode could be deleted and reworked into coming episodes with no problems.
Wonder what the DVD release will be like...

[ffl]

Well, not really. After looking through that part in the manga again, it just goes from the scene in the previous episode to Kakashi hearing the noise and then a frame showing the cave-in. While they could do that, it would leave a lot of people wondering what went on in there to cause the whole place to come crashing down.

[Cow]

So Kakashi hears a noise then Sakura breaks the third kazekage. It'd be choppy but it wouldn't be worse than this episode.

Really the only important thing in this episode is the Tsuande flash back + breaking the Kazekage.

[ffl]

Well, it's anime. Fill 'Er up!:cheers:

[Jack_Bauer]

This episode, no actually Team Gai's fight sequence could use a bit of Akira Toriyama treatment. I mean since DBZ is an inspiration for Naruto then he might as well. you're all pretty much right about the fight animation, its crappy and I think it doesnt do Team Gai justice at all. Its a team that consists of powerhouse Taijutsu fighters and this is the treatment they get for animation?

As far as the episode goes, they really need to stop the whole chasing deidara already.. They need to end this so we can get on with the next chapter.. I just hope they dont give us fillers after this.

[itachi_fangirl]

i think im scared of sakura now lol this ep was awesome but i agree that gai's fight was animated horribly, they repeated the same movements too much.

[Siendra]

It wasn't just Gai' Lee's Ten-Ten, and Neji's fights. The entire episode was horrendously animated.

[Gaara88]

On another note, ive jsut been thinking to myself.. probably just over analyzing things.

But i was thinking 2 things,

a) Why would one of the strongest, mature, smart ninja send his puppet into close combat when he could have just stabbed her with the iron sand? (her playing dead trick would not have worked lol).

b) Diedara may aswell just fly forever, does Naruto really have no way of touching him? :S

[ffl]

a) Why would one of the strongest, mature, smart ninja send his puppet into close combat when he could have just stabbed her with the iron sand? (her playing dead trick would not have worked lol).

b) Diedara may aswell just fly forever, does Naruto really have no way of touching him? :S

Iron sand or puppet, they're both just his tools. It's like throwing a $300 kunai at someone and then going to pick it up later instead of walking over and just stabbing or something. Also, as an artist, he probably seeks to make his finishing blows memorable and lasting.

Anyway, she was "poisoned". Sasori went in for the kill.

And as far as I know, Naruto has no way of touching him.

[Cow]

The third kazekage isn't his most impressive trick anyway, and besides he can rebuild, pretty easily actually -- considering he is the puppet genius.

[ffl]

Yeah. He's not too worried about his puppets breaking. If anything, that would allow him to rebuild his puppets to be even stronger.

[Mikadzuki Tatsu]

I'm tired of Team Gai's fights (which are nothing but repetitive, it seems - how many times do we need to see Gai's and Lee's punches and kicks?) and Naruto and Deidara's game of cat-and-mouse interrupting the real main attraction - Sakura and Chiyo's battle against Sasori. Everything else is like the stringy fat getting in the way of my enjoyment of the meaty center of the steak.

I don't want to watch Naruto and Kakashi chase Deidara and his flying clay bird. I don't want to watch Rock Lee deliver the same punches and kicks to his double over and over and over again. I want to watch Sakura beat the crap out of Sasori and his puppets with her earthquake-inducing punches and kicks.

[Woooh]

The entire episode was horrendous

Fixed.
(filler)

[Brill]

I'm tired of Team Gai's fights (which are nothing but repetitive, it seems - how many times do we need to see Gai's and Lee's punches and kicks?) and Naruto and Deidara's game of cat-and-mouse interrupting the real main attraction - Sakura and Chiyo's battle against Sasori. Everything else is like the stringy fat getting in the way of my enjoyment of the meaty center of the steak.

I don't want to watch Naruto and Kakashi chase Deidara and his flying clay bird. I don't want to watch Rock Lee deliver the same punches and kicks to his double over and over and over again. I want to watch Sakura beat the crap out of Sasori and his puppets with her earthquake-inducing punches and kicks.

Well...what do you expect? The animators are constrained since there is no material to work with. There are no new techniques or moves made during this arc. Kishi wrapped up Gai's team in 1 page of manga IIRC. Diedara and Naruto in 1/2 a chapter. This is Sakura's big battles (so far)...10 manga chapters. But most of that in the manga was nothing more than movements for the most part. I commend them for at least flushing the background out somewhat. I think people are memerized so much by Sakura doing something important that they forget that Kishi dropped the ball with respect to the other two battles going on. I think people were expectiong a little more content if the animators bothered to flush out the other two sequences going on. But hey, it's filler, I guess they're damned either way.

[Cow]

Drop the ball? Lawl. I'm pretty sure most people won't agree with that. He chose to focus on Sakura, for once, which is a good thing. A manga does not need to focus on side battles or the arcs will never get anywhere, i.e. bleach. I could care less about Team Gai fighting themselves. And the Naruto/Kakashi vs Diedera battle was juicy enough, and they fight so much later on, why continually focus on them? There is no problem with adding in a little filler to make the episodes appear to be one continuous flow, but the blatant lack of artistic integrity in this episode is simply laughable.

[SuikenMaster]

Naruto has been dragging like sh1t... soo much useless explaining and looping stupid stick figure crap for gai's fight (which no one cares about atm). I swear it took half the episode for something to really happen.. and when it did, the show was already over. I swear...

[Knight-SaberX]

I almost wish I didn't watch this episode, I could have done something far more important with that 30 minutes.

Naruto needs to start picking up the pace a little more as I am seriously loosing interest, I think a few other people I know express the same feelings.:$%&#!:

[ZeroRyoko1974]

someone needs to do Naruto: Shippuden the abridged series. Cut out all of the Gai team fights, cut Naruto chasing the clay bird to like one short part of one episode...

[Brill]

Drop the ball? Lawl. I'm pretty sure most people won't agree with that. He chose to focus on Sakura, for once, which is a good thing. A manga does not need to focus on side battles or the arcs will never get anywhere, i.e. bleach. I could care less about Team Gai fighting themselves. And the Naruto/Kakashi vs Diedera battle was juicy enough, and they fight so much later on, why continually focus on them? There is no problem with adding in a little filler to make the episodes appear to be one continuous flow, but the blatant lack of artistic integrity in this episode is simply laughable.

No, he dropped the ball. From the Nation of Waves, the Forest of Death, Attack on the Konoha village, Sasuke/Naruto vs. Gaara, the retreival of Sasuke, the story pops back and forth to bring all the storylines forward. Now we get to Sakura and Sasori and the world just stops! After this Kishi goes back to his style of popping back and forth. Even though Sakura gets some much needed airtime, Kishi departed from his normal style of writing to do this segment abd then reverts back. People call that dropping the ball.

[Cow]

Actually no, no one I know calls it that :)
Its called focusing on a character that needed attention.
You can't have everything, stop complaining.

[Brill]

Sakura is just fighting. Sakura is one of the few charaters in Naruto who gets more character development when she isn't fighitng. Just because she's fighting doesn't mean she's getting much needed characeter attention. People are just happy that she's making a positive contribution in the battles. Read my posts, I'm not the ones complaining on the elaboration of the other fights as detracting from Sakura's moment under the spotlight.

[Cow]

While Sakura has had character development, this finally does away with the mentality that a lot of Naruto fans possess, that Sakura is useless. Many fans felt that she was just a drag pre time skip (rightly so) so its finally nice to see her get some attention, that matters. Also, she has a lot of Ino flashbacks etc, I don't know about other people but I don't really care much about their rivalry. What I am more interested in is her family, we have only heard her mother so far, its kind of odd, I wonder... will Kishi just pop in her mom in a random page so we can finally see what she looks like?

[Brill]

And why is Sakura useless? Because Naruto fans have a double-standard. You are only useful if you're an a$$kicker. I don't think I'm spoiling things too much by saying that Sakura survives this battle, however, in the next major upcoming battle her "uselessness" once again rears its ugly head. Then again, Sakura is not supposed to be an a$$kicker. She's a medical ninja whose role is one of support, evasion, and healing-just the opposite of Naruto. So she'll only get respect from the audience when she behaves outside the guidelines of her role. Same for Hinata and Neji. Both are scouts but Neji is also an a$$kicker so he gets much more respect from the fan-base than Hinata who is only viewed as a supporter and potential girlfiriend to Naruto.

[ZeroRyoko1974]

For 200+ episodes of Naruto, Sakura wasn't a medical nin, she was just a useless support character. She has been useful in Shippuden as a medical nin to save dudes life, and her current usefulness has been limited to being used as a puppet and smashing big rocks

[Brill]

And you've proved my point. She's not a frontline fighter, and probably never will be after this arc completes. So is she still going to be useless? For most the answer will be unfortunately-yes!

[ecchi]

That last moment when Sakura smashed the puppet to pieces was so satisfying. But I just want to see Naruto own!!! I don't really care about Gai, Neji, Rock, or Tenten's fight.

[appletini]

im very surprised that we saw sakura punch the puppet.. i wouldve assumed they wouldve left us on a while sakura live or die kinda thing