Bernard needs too loosen up

[Nunsploitation]

What the heck is wrong with that guy? I was a bit dismayed when I saw the way he over reacted to a newbie's mistaken post (http://www.animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=206848).

Bernard,

The rules are ambiguous and contradictory. You've got one sticky warning visitors about the graphic and explicit content on this forum. The official forum rules only say no hardcore depictions of sex (implying that mere nudity and implied sex is okay) and then you've got another sticky saying no hentai of any kind.

All this coming from a site founded as a hentai site that sells hentai and that depicts graphic nudity on the box covers of the DVDs and h-manga it sells.

So if you think it should be obvious to everyone who comes on the board that sexy pictures are some kind of anathema, you are sorely mistaken.

You chided AM for not reading one particular sticky, maybe you should read the other two that imply at least some pictures are okay.

No one has ever explained to me to my satisfaction why h-images are banned. Protecting minors is ******** when all I have to do is go to one of the many AnimeNation hentai pages (http://www.animenation.com/hentai-hentai-manga.html) to see all kinds of naughty stuff. None of those images are censored and there's no adult login or even warning page to click through.

Why the double standard? Why is it okay there, but not here??? I know you don't have an answer and that's just plain embarrassing.

My advice to you is to sit down and write a nice, polite form letter to newbies who break the rules and then copy and past it as a response to mistaken posts. Include links to the rules you are referring to.

That way, you don't have to go all ballistic on some poor, unsuspecting newbie. Just hit copy, paste and close thread and move on.

Take a chill pill dude.

[gameoffreak8]

That's because Bernard often saw many members post the h-images without reading the sticky warning, so that's why he is unhappy to see that, I guess. If I remember correctly, he locked few threads in hentai section because of that.

[HSaabedra]

It is the responsibility of each and every new member to read the rules of the board and sub-boards.
The moderators work under the assumption that every member has either read or has implied an understanding of said rules when posting. To say he overreacted is a matter of opinion when the job of a moderator is to enforce the rules that are outlined without exception.

The reason H-images are banned on the boards is a legal one as all images are under copyright to license holders and content distributors, along with avoiding the risk of criminal prosecution as the majority of members on this site are minors.

I should say that this is the best explanation you're going to get, and people that disregard such regulations should be permabanned, as they put the board at risk.

[Soluzar]

What the heck is wrong with that guy?
Ya know, I would usually be the last person to come to the defence of Bernard Monsha, because we really don't get along. On this occasion, my innate sense of fairness compells me to respond. Someone broke a clearly stated rule, which has been established for the good of the community. Bern doesn't seem to have banned the user in question, or done anything else of an extreme nature. All he has done is to close the thread.

I was a bit dismayed when I saw the way he over reacted to a newbie's mistaken post (http://www.animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=206848).
I don't see how it is an over-reaction, other than that Bern used a large font and colored text. It might have been an over-reaction if he immediately banned every user who had viewed that thread, but in this case he was merely hoping to impress upon this user and upon others the importance of the rules.

The rules are ambiguous and contradictory.
So you have said before. However all that implies is that the rules should be clarified. It still doesn't mean that you can post hentai images on the forum. Like it or not, the staff know what the rules are supposed to be. If the rules are presented in a contradictory or ambiguous manner, that is a problem, but not the kind of problem you seem to be suggesting.

All this coming from a site founded as a hentai site that sells hentai and that depicts graphic nudity on the box covers of the DVDs and h-manga it sells.
The Anime Nation internet retail site is not held to the same rules as the Anime Nation community forum. Does this come as a surprise to you? This forum is often accessed by those under the age of 18, which in America is recognised as the age when it is permissible to view pornographic materials.

No one has ever explained to me to my satisfaction why h-images are banned. Protecting minors is ******** when all I have to do is go to one of the many AnimeNation hentai pages (http://www.animenation.com/hentai-hentai-manga.html) to see all kinds of naughty stuff. None of those images are censored and there's no adult login or even warning page to click through.
Then can you explain to my satisfaction why the forum rules should apply to the Anime Nation online retail store, which is not a part of the forum? You don't expect the GameFAQs rules to apply here, do you? Or the AnimeOnDVD rules, or any other rules? It's a separate site, in effect. It just so happens that the owner of both sites is the same.

Why the double standard? Why is it okay there, but not here??? I know you don't have an answer and that's just plain embarrassing.
It's not a double-standard. It would be a double-standard if mods could post porn but nobody else could. That doesn't happen to be the case. The forum rules apply to the forum, the online retail store runs according to the usual guidelines for online retail stores. What is embarassing is your insistance that something has been done improperly in this matter.

This post looks a mess now that I come to see it. What I'm getting from your posts is that you want to see a change in the rules. It's not gonna happen. I'm confident in telling you that. I've got to know the style of the guys who run this place pretty well over the last few years, and I know perfectly well they aren't going to allow images of nudity or sex on these forums.

Just give it up. You can't argue this with them. It is their forum to do with as they please.

[Gene]

<shrug>
Looks like he's doing his job. New member joins specifically to post a hentai picture, which the rules, if one reads the thread, right there in the forum, clearly state is not allowed. Other than the big text, didn't really look too over the top to me.

[DocWatson]

I don't see how it is an over-reaction, other than that Bern used a large font and colored text.Which, in this instance, was the equivalent to shouting at the poster at the top of his lungs using a bullhorn (IMNSHO). I understand the ban on discussion of other retailers, but not on the posting of links to explicit content, as long as it is in the context of a discussion, and not just a response to a request for free porn.

This forum is often accessed by those under the age of 18, which in America is recognised as the age when it is permissible to view pornographic materials.Yet the rules state
Only consenting adults over the age of 18 may access or view the threads in the Hentai forum.so why do we have to worry about it?

No one has ever explained to me to my satisfaction why h-images are banned. Protecting minors is ******** when all I have to do is go to one of the many AnimeNation hentai pages to see all kinds of naughty stuff. None of those images are censored and there's no adult login or even warning page to click through.Then can you explain to my satisfaction why the forum rules should apply to the Anime Nation online retail store, which is not a part of the forum? You don't expect the GameFAQs rules to apply here, do you? Or the AnimeOnDVD rules, or any other rules? It's a separate site, in effect. It just so happens that the owner of both sites is the same.Those are spurious examples—neither GameFAQs nor Anime on DVD are directly and seemlessly linked to these forums <points to link at the top of every page>, nor are they owned by the same person who owns this site.

Why the double standard? Why is it okay there, but not here??? I know you don't have an answer and that's just plain embarrassing.It's not a double-standard. It would be a double-standard if mods could post porn but nobody else could. That doesn't happen to be the case.Begging your pardon, but that does happen—John (Oppliger) posts links that would get anyone else banned (though I love him for that).

There is another double stardard—I can post links to adult products on the site, but not to the same products on their producing companies' official sites (e.g., Milky, Pink Pineapple, et cetera).

[Bernard_Monsha]

What the heck is wrong with that guy? I was a bit dismayed when I saw the way he over reacted to a newbie's mistaken post (http://www.animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=206848).

Why, 99% of the post like that are underage and only post once spamming links to no no sites.


The rules are ambiguous and contradictory. You've got one sticky warning visitors about the graphic and explicit content on this forum. The official forum rules only say no hardcore depictions of sex (implying that mere nudity and implied sex is okay) and then you've got another sticky saying no hentai of any kind.

One says you have to be 18 one says do not post pornographic material. How is that ambiguous?

All this coming from a site founded as a hentai site that sells hentai and that depicts graphic nudity on the box covers of the DVDs and h-manga it sells.

They are selling those items, not finding out what and were so they can download them and watch them at home.

So if you think it should be obvious to everyone who comes on the board that sexy pictures are some kind of anathema, you are sorely mistaken.

You chided AM for not reading one particular sticky, maybe you should read the other two that imply at least some pictures are okay.

We are lenient if you edit out nudity, but technically we can remove the images and lock the thread.

No one has ever explained to me to my satisfaction why h-images are banned. Protecting minors is ******** when all I have to do is go to one of the many AnimeNation hentai pages (http://www.animenation.com/hentai-hentai-manga.html) to see all kinds of naughty stuff. None of those images are censored and there's no adult login or even warning page to click through.

They are selling those items, not finding out what they are so they can download them and watch them at home.



Why the double standard? Why is it okay there, but not here??? I know you don't have an answer and that's just plain embarrassing.

Please do not sit here and scream about double standards and how your right to internet soil your internet pants in internet public has been violated. There is no double standard, if someone post this kind of crap in any other forum they will get big red letters or banned.

My advice to you is to sit down and write a nice, polite form letter to newbies who break the rules and then copy and past it as a response to mistaken posts. Include links to the rules you are referring to.

That doesnot work, I tried that route for a long time. BIG ANGRY RED LETTERS get peoples attention. Since I started useing BARL fewer people have been posting Ware can I gets hentiaz? and What hentaiz iz dis since starting to use angry red letters. It used to be 9 out of ten threads were 14 year olds trying to cage some free porn, now it is down to 5 out of ten.


That way, you don't have to go all ballistic on some poor, unsuspecting newbie. Just hit copy, paste and close thread and move on.


No, carrot does not work without a jumbo dose of stick in this case.