Worst Mecha/Super Robot series you ever seen?

[lav2k4]

I'm just curious on peoples opinions of the worst Mecha/Super Robot series out there. I haven't seen enough to voice my opinion.

[Yukito Kunisaki]

This will result in alot of flaming in the future. Anywho, I could just say the only one I ever enjoyed was the FMP series. Mecha just never was a big thing for me.

[Sushikins]

Of everything I've seen, the first thing that comes to mind is Gundam SEED DESTINY. I'm sure I probably don't need to explain why.

Oh, and if you want to count it, Kannazuki no Miko.

[Levon]

Kannazuki no Miko:lol:

http://www.themanime.org/viewreview.php?id=826

[Hisoka]

Kannazuki no Miko was one of my most painful anime experiences so I'll have to agree with that one. The only good parts was the opening/ending themes and when it was finally over.

Oh, and if you want to count it, Kannazuki no Miko.

I was under the impression that you liked it. Or do you just think it sucks from a mecha aspect?

[Lord Timaeus]

The only one I can think of is Gundam Wing, and even then it wasn't mind-crunchingly horrible. At least Duo made the show somewhat interesting, even if his character is so absurd for a "war" story.

And this thread only makes me want to see Kannazuki no Miko for some reason, even though I know I shouldn't.

[Sushikins]

I was under the impression that you liked it. Or do you just think it sucks from a mecha aspect?

Upon further evaluation, I found that I only really liked the music from the series, I no longer care for the show beyond KOTOKO's music and some BGMs. But yes, at one point I did like KnM.

[J Dude]

And this thread only makes me want to see Kannazuki no Miko for some reason, even though I know I shouldn't.

I bet I will eventually too even though I know I should avoid it. :lol: I think I'd have to say that the worst mecha show I've seen is Gundam SEED Destiny. It started off good, but then just went down the pooper really fast and just became a god awful show.

[Lord Timaeus]

I bet I will eventually too even though I know I should avoid it. :lol: I think I'd have to say that the worst mecha show I've seen is Gundam SEED Destiny. It started off good, but then just went down the pooper really fast and just became a god awful show.

That also only makes me want to see it more, even though I absolutely hate SEED. The animation would bug me, however, as it makes the show seem more like an expensive Flash movie.

[tenshi_a]

And this thread only makes me want to see Kannazuki no Miko for some reason, even though I know I shouldn't.

Kannazuki no Miko is a very good show, if you happen to be desperate to watch a yuri series. Which most yuri fans are. Though I'll admit the first... two thirds of the series were pretty terrible. And hardly anyone is satisfied with the ending. Apart from that, it's ok. :lol:

I don't know what the worst mecha show of all time is. I know that I probably haven't seen it. I also know that I want to watch Gingaizer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_PHe3sIHO0) to see if it's as bad as it looks. It's a 1970s mecha that has terrible transforming sequences (reminds me of a folding out armchair to make a sofa), terrible combination sequences (weird man-sex stacking; no-one tried to think this through), and it throws playing cards as its weapon. It looks terrible. I'd love to see at least one episode. -_-;

[Hisoka]

and it throws playing cards as its weapon.

There is nothing wrong with that. ;)

What about Dangaizer 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HKgHpG9l6c)? The show blew me away by how badly it... blew.

[lav2k4]

There is nothing wrong with that. ;)



lol Touche.

I wouldn't mind watching Ginguiser, it looks awesome. Sure it's no Zambot 3, but it's still a 70's super robot show. The budget was probably ****, what do you expect?

[earsofdoom]

can we name video game series?.... though they probably all suck equally besides ZOE. (seriously.... why do some many mecha games suck?)

And hardly anyone is satisfied with the ending. Apart from that, it's ok. :lol:


I liked the ending.... though it does kinda leave you wanting a mecha-less second season.

[Hisoka]

Gingaizer looks most excellent. :lol:

[tenshi_a]

I don't know much about Dangaizer 3... with a title like that, were they trying to fool people into thinking it was a cross between Danguard Ace, Grendaizer and Zambot 3? That was my first thought...

I've also wanted to watch Saikyo Robo Daiouja (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hSuPdW_i_s), ever since I saw Isao Taira singing the opening in a Super Robot Spirits concert (he sings Ideon too). It's a fun song, and Isao Taira has eyes like Chiyo-chichi in Azumanga Daioh. All the audience chant "saikyo! saikyo! saikyo!" - it must be the best robot ever! :lol:

[Phantom]

Hey i enjoyed the zone of the enders games, sure the whole destroying the earth thing in the second game was lame but apart from that its still enjoyable gameplay.

Worse for me at this point would be gundam 0083. The characters (The main ones anyway apart from gato) are just all so very stupid. You wouldn't think they were in a war. I have only seen the first two disks but i have been told that the series gets worse nare the end. Did anyone not find it funny when the main guy helped that zeon soldier build his mobile suit, your in the amry! You do not help someone build a mobile suit unless they are on your side. I seem to remember that he even knew he was a zeon soldier.

[VidelCoolGirl]

lol @ Lurking.

Kannazuki No Miko. Nuff said.

[Levon]

Worse for me at this point would be gundam 0083. The characters (The main ones anyway apart from gato) are just all so very stupid. You wouldn't think they were in a war. I have only seen the first two disks but i have been told that the series gets worse nare the end. Did anyone not find it funny when the main guy helped that zeon soldier build his mobile suit, your in the amry! You do not help someone build a mobile suit unless they are on your side. I seem to remember that he even knew he was a zeon soldier.

I thought 0083 was good. Come on, there are much MUCH worse mecha anime unless the amount of mecha you've seen is very low.

[Phantom]

Maybe its just worse when placed next to the others gundams but thats all that comes to mind. I don't count super robot animes as i don't consider them true mecha animes, if i did then one of them would be the worse im sure.

[J Dude]

I thought Gundam 0083 was a lot better than Gundam SEED Destiny. I even thought Gundam F91, which wouldn't have been so mediocre if it wasn't just a movie, was better than Gundam SEED Destiny, and I think 0083 was better than both, even though 0083 has the problem that Kou Uraki isn't likeable and the show has the whole plot hole involving Nina & Gato near the end. I'm guessing you haven't seen Gundam SEED Destiny Phantom? Hell! Even Gundam Wing was better than SEED Destiny. To put it simply, there is worse Gundam out there than 0083 in my opinion, which really wasn't all that bad. A super robot show is still a mecha anime by the way. Even if you want to think that it isn't somehow a "true" mecha show.

[Phantom]

Im watching Gundam SEED Destiny right now and as far in as i am i don't see any real prolems with the show at this point. Sure it doesn't have the story of a UC gundam and all of the characters are kind of the same in that they all want the fighting to stop but im enjoying it much more then gundam wing even thought i liked it the first time i watched it.

[J Dude]

Im watching Gundam SEED Destiny right now and as far in as i am i don't see any real prolems with the show at this point. Sure it doesn't have the story of a UC gundam and all of the characters are kind of the same in that they all want the fighting to stop but im enjoying it much more then gundam wing even thought i liked it the first time i watched it.

Well... hopefully by the time you finish the show, you'll see why it's such a bad show. The show had too much angst and emo for my taste, thank you Shinn for that, and it really starts to go downhill once Kira shows up again. Fukuda is pretty much to blame for the show going down the pooper. He takes the spotlight off Shinn and gives it to Kira & Athrun. He also throws in pairings later on out of nowhere. Somehow Shinn & Lunamaria are a couple later on without anything happening before and the director just decides to break up Cagalli & Athrun, which also just came out of nowhere and was stupid. It's like Fukuda just didn't know what direction he wanted to take the show in and just left us with a rushed ending and a very bad show. I'd say if after the halfway point of the show, that you're still liking it, then something might be wrong. There's just so much more I could go on about why the show failed hard, like Shinn being Dullindal's lapdog, but it's just been discussed so much in the past that I really don't want to anymore. It would just be better off rotting away in a bottomless pit.

[Levon]

Im watching Gundam SEED Destiny right now and as far in as i am i don't see any real prolems with the show at this point. Sure it doesn't have the story of a UC gundam and all of the characters are kind of the same in that they all want the fighting to stop but im enjoying it much more then gundam wing even thought i liked it the first time i watched it.

How far are you?

[Hisoka]

Well... hopefully by the time you finish the show, you'll see why it's such a bad show.

Wouldn't it be better if he turned out the like it instead? I'll probably never watch Destiny because everybody else has ruined any glimmer of it being watchable with the constant obsessive bashing. For a show that apparently sucks it sure is the topic of detailed conversations quite a bit. My point is that no matter how bad a show is considered I'd rather end up liking it instead. I'm at the point where I want to puke anytime I hear about it because it's such a defensive topic. Those who hate it want others to hate it with them and those who like it aren't supposed to? That's what I've gathered but I by no means want to turn this into a Destiny thread. :P No, it doesn't look or sound like a good show but sometimes it's best to move on.

0083 is one of the weakest Gundam series as far as I'm concerned but it wasn't bad and shouldn't be on any worst ever lists. Unless it's actually the worst one you've seen which you should be glad is the case.

[J Dude]

Wouldn't it be better if he turned out the like it instead?

Maybe for the sake of amusement it would. :P I see where you're coming from though. After all, it's always better to enjoy something than dislike it. I just don't see that happening with that show, unless you're someone crazy like a certain someone who couldn't type any better than probably a preschooler and thought Zeta Gundam had horrible animation, while SEED/SEED Destiny had great animation.

[tenshi_a]

Those who hate it want others to hate it with them and those who like it aren't supposed to?

I noticed that too. It's very odd. I've never seen quite such an... anti-fan following before. So much pride in so much hatred. I don't like the kind of person who would revel in spreading hatred in others in any form. It's an ugly kind of sport.

A similar gathering of hatred happens for Gundam Wing. But I'm not sure it's quite as strong.

In other news... it might not be the worst mecha series I've ever seen, but I really disliked the Escaflowne retelling in the movie version. It was because they had really messed up the personalities of all the characters I'd previously really liked. It's one of the few cases where I was actually angry after watching.

[Sushikins]

I noticed that too. It's very odd. I've never seen quite such an... anti-fan following before. So much pride in so much hatred. I don't like the kind of person who would revel in spreading hatred in others in any form. It's an ugly kind of sport.

A similar gathering of hatred happens for Gundam Wing. But I'm not sure it's quite as strong.


That's something I've noticed with Gundam fans in general, if they find somebody who likes Wing or GSD, they get into a fight with them over why they can't possibly like it and shouldn't. Basically, if you like Wing or GSD, you aren't qualified to like the Gundam series, is what I take away from the stupid arguments. I say, let people watch what they watch, if they like it, so what, doesn't mean you have to.

Most of the people I talk to online find Brain Powered to be a horrible show, but I like it, and they don't care that I do or try to tell me that I'm wrong for liking it.

[tenshi_a]

[sigh]

Yeah, that's what I seem to have observed too. I think they'd probably prefer me not liking any Gundam series at all than liking either Gundam Seed Destiny or Gundam Wing... -_-;

[Phantom]

How far are you?

Im at the part were they have just destroyed the laser cannon mounted in the hillside overlooking the town. I don't see why people dislike it so much, maybe because you enjoyed gundam seed and hate the fact that they made a weaker series just to milk money out of people. Hey maybe your right about it but i can't see how things can get so bad that you would hate it. I don't think i hate any anime come to think of it but i do strongly dislike a few.

The reason why i don't consider super robot anime as mecha anime is because for the most part it is very shallow plot wise and is only there for the action. Not that theres anything wrong with that as i enjoy a few of them but whats the point of bring them into topics like this as no super robot anime can hold up to even the weakest of gundam shows.

[Hisoka]

It would make for an interesting study. :)


Most of the people I talk to online find Brain Powered to be a horrible show, but I like it, and they don't care that I do or try to tell me that I'm wrong for liking it.

That's a good example because Brain Powered is disliked by many, myself included but there are those who do enjoy it. Though I generally do, I've been putting in more effort lately to respect opinions that differ from mine. As long as someone isn't spouting out nonsense they should be able to like or dislike whatever they choose without being second guessed. We all have room for improvement in this area.

unless you're someone crazy like a certain someone who couldn't type any better than probably a preschooler and thought Zeta Gundam had horrible animation, while SEED/SEED Destiny had great animation.

Your post was good until you edited it. Now you've left me no other choice. :P

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[Levon]

I never said I hated it....

Its just it goes very downhill about halfway through.


The reason why i don't consider super robot anime as mecha anime is because for the most part it is very shallow plot wise and is only there for the action. Not that theres anything wrong with that as i enjoy a few of them but whats the point of bring them into topics like this as no super robot anime can hold up to even the weakest of gundam shows.

Mecha isn't defined by whether or not its got a shallow plot.
Just so you know, there is a Gundam thats Super Robot. I don't think the plot is shallow.

[Sushikins]

The reason why i don't consider super robot anime as mecha anime is because for the most part it is very shallow plot wise and is only there for the action. Not that theres anything wrong with that as i enjoy a few of them but whats the point of bring them into topics like this as no super robot anime can hold up to even the weakest of gundam shows.

Have you ever seen GaoGaiGar or Gunbuster? At least in my opinion, those hold up better, plot wise, then most of the Gundam shows I've seen. I enjoy Gundam at lot, it's one of my favorite mecha franchises, but there are SR shows that are better than Gundam. Plus there is also G Gundam, which is Super Robot.

Also, you're not at the point where GSD gets really bad. At that point, the quality is taking a very small dive, but it slowly gets worse as you get farther in. Where you are, most of the people here were at the very least, enjoying Gundam SEED DESTINY. But hey, if you end up liking the whole show, more power to you.



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:lol:

[ZeroRyoko1974]

Does that 3D CG Voltron count? If so, that was the worst.

[Levon]

I thought Gunbuster's plot was kinda shallow actually, it was the characters that were the focus. Not the plot.

[Sushikins]

I thought Gunbuster's plot was kinda shallow actually, it was the characters that were the focus. Not the plot.

Well, maybe you're right, but I found the plot to be quite well done, especially within the confines of 6 episodes. But yes, I'd definitely have to say the characters where the main focus. This is just my opinion of course.

[Phantom]

No i haven't seen gunbuster but i have heard nothing but good things about it and its one of those shows that ill end up watching on day. Im also enjoying Gurren Lagann and i didn't think i would. Its just that super robot anime for the most part isn't my kind of thing, for the same reasons i also dislike it when the main characters mecha is so over the top powerful that the normal every day soldier has no chance against him.

Sure you kind of know that the main character is going to win but i don't like it when the enemy have no chance at all and this is the biggest reason that i don't follow a lot of super robot shows.

[Soluzar]

That's something I've noticed with Gundam fans in general, if they find somebody who likes Wing or GSD, they get into a fight with them over why they can't possibly like it and shouldn't.
You might notice that usually it's the same few people, and if you were to ask me, they are the ones generally starting the "fights", if you want to use that term. It's impossible to have a sensible discussion on the subject with some people. Most people who like Gundam Wing, I don't care. I have no reason to care unless they start spouting nonsense, in which case I think they've really earned any harsh responses they get.

My least favourite mecha anime would have to be Gundam Wing. I don't know if you would have noticed. :P

Its just that super robot anime for the most part isn't my kind of thing, for the same reasons I also dislike it when the main characters mecha is so over the top powerful that the normal everyday soldier has no chance against him.
In that case, I find it surprising that you're enjoying Gundam SEED & SEED Destiny. Once Kira has the Strike Freedom, what kindof chance does any normal everyday soldier have against him? Considering what you've just said, I would think that would put you off.

[Phantom]

Yeah thats the reason i didn't buy it, im watching my sisters disks. Did you know that gundam wing was the first gundam show i ever watched. Without watching the other gundam shows i thought they were all like that but after finding a tape of the last two episodes of gundam 0080 that someone had thrown away i was amazed. Is this what gundam really is i thought at the time then i started looking up the one year war. Its like a history lesson that you can enjoy.

Oh and for the record gundam seed is no where near as over the top as gundam wing. You won't see the strike take on 300 mobile suits by itself effortlessly. I could see myself buying it even if there were not a lot of better shows out there.

[Dr. Nick]

Arjuna had some mecha-ish content, I wonder if it's eligible here? It's one of the very few anime titles that genuinely managed to disgust me. I guess the show tried to have an ecological message, but it felt more like a cult recruitment ad. One episode was about eating placenta. EATING PLACENTA. I don't think even Gundam Seed Destiny ever did that.

My next nominations would probably be Burst Angel (breasts = good, scary mutant variable breasts = bad) and the movie version of Escaflowne.

[Soluzar]

Oh and for the record gundam seed is no where near as over the top as gundam wing. You won't see the strike take on 300 mobile suits by itself effortlessly. I could see myself buying it even if there were not a lot of better shows out there.
I liked Gundam SEED. It's not my favourite, but I liked it.

[J Dude]

The reason why i don't consider super robot anime as mecha anime is because for the most part it is very shallow plot wise and is only there for the action. Not that theres anything wrong with that as i enjoy a few of them but whats the point of bring them into topics like this as no super robot anime can hold up to even the weakest of gundam shows.

That's sad to hear, but your opinion would hopefully change once you watch GaoGaiGar and G Gundam if you haven't seen them already. I don't hate Gundam Wing either by the way, but it has a lot of faults and I just found it to be mediocre. It's not something I think I'd want to watch ever again in all honesty.

[lav2k4]

That's sad to hear, but your opinion would hopefully change once you watch GaoGaiGar and G Gundam if you haven't seen them already.

I agree. Those two shows are great from what I hear, and totally different then your typical monster of the week Super Robot show with no plot. GGG seems more popular with fans of mecha/super robot than G Gundam, just because G Gundam isn't really like other Gundam series. I look forward to picking both of them up.

[CrossboneGundam]

Maybe its just worse when placed next to the others gundams but thats all that comes to mind. I don't count super robot animes as i don't consider them true mecha animes, if i did then one of them would be the worse im sure.

What kind of absurd reasoning is that?

Mecha isn't an abbreviation of "whiny kids in giant robots angsting about fighting," it's an abbreviation of mechanical.

Super robots are mechanical robots, and therefore, mecha. Get over it.

[Phantom]

Then why bother with the term "Super robots" at all then. Why is there a separate term unless it is itself something different then a "Mecha show"

Over people in this thread can see this, why can't you?

[Soluzar]

Then why bother with the term "Super robots" at all then. Why is there a separate term unless it is itself something different then a "Mecha show"

Over people in this thread can see this, why can't you?
There was no mecha before there were super robots. The very Gundam series that you so revere owes everything to the super robot genre, without which it would not have existed. Are you telling me you've never heard of the term "sub-genre" before?

[Area88]

Out of all the mech show si've seen, the only one i've been really disapointed with was Mospeada. I found the show's characters very unappealing and the plot as basic as it gets.

As a mecha fan, it's hard for me to hate any series but Mospeada certainly comes close. All the characters i could have liked got killed off in the early part of the first episode.

[Phantom]

Sure it has "Mecha robots" in it so you wouldn't be that out of place calling it mecha but there is a big difference in content for the most part thats why i don't use the term mecha for super robot shows as the word super robot suits it a lot more and by using that word you instantly have a better understanding of what the anime that you are interested in is about.

[Mazinkaiser]

Mecha separates into TWO subgenres. Real Robot and Super Robot. Both are considered mecha by the way.

[Vir]

Arjuna had some mecha-ish content, I wonder if it's eligible here?
Ugliest mecha I've ever seen, and I stopped watching it after one and a half episode because I already thought I knew by then what kind of ending this was going to get. Still, if my local anime club decides to view it I won't run out of the screening. Perhaps magical girl isn't for me.

Otherwise the most disappointing mecha show for me was Gasaraki, because it started with mystery, magical and historical elements coupled with intrigues and a realistic world, but then petered out into something that seemed like it was written in the first year of political science studies - or by somebody who wanted to be Tom Clancy but failed.

I couldn't even start watching Gundam Seed - the character designs actually put me off, when his designs back in the days of, say, Infinite Ryvius, were quite attractive.

[Zash]

Gasaraki..I have to say I was the worst thing i've ever seen.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Arjuna had some mecha-ish content, I wonder if it's eligible here? It's one of the very few anime titles that genuinely managed to disgust me. I guess the show tried to have an ecological message, but it felt more like a cult recruitment ad. One episode was about eating placenta. EATING PLACENTA. I don't think even Gundam Seed Destiny ever did that.



I still think the funniest thing in Arjuna is the insistence on letting bugs and weeds overtake crops, when they do that people starve.

Worst Mecha show ever is G-Saviour. Anyone who argues against that is insane, shiny purple muu muu ftw!

[Elysial]

Lots of Kannazuki no Miko hate here.

It may have been a fairly mediocre experience, but at least the ending was awesome.

[emotoaster]

I really wish I knew the name of this anime, all I know is it was on Anime on Demand and it was an all girl cast and they where fighting someone named Cow! I forget what ep. number it was but man it was B-A-D.

[Vaikyuko]

G-Saviour, Wing, SEED, and DESTINY are all rather bad shows, but I like them. Burst Angel is phenomenally bad compared to them and I like it too (I like a lot of bad movies/shows, lulz).

Worst one I ever saw was Tristia of the Deep Blue Sea, though. They try to cram way too much into just two short (like...17 minutes, including OP/ED?) episodes. It just felt weird, and the ending was laughable because, well, it had build-up and villain and TENSION. Except there was nothing but happy-go-lucky preceding it, making it random and hilarious.

Regarding the one guy hating on super robot: do yourself a favor and watch G Gundam, Ideon, and GaoGaiGar. If you don't like one of those three, you're not human.

[Mazinkaiser]

Regarding the one guy hating on super robot: do yourself a favor and watch G Gundam, Ideon, and GaoGaiGar. If you don't like one of those three, you're not human.

QFMFT

And by GaoGaiGar, he means both GaoGaiGar TV and GaoGaiGar Final.

As for me, the only mecha anime I really disliked were Gundam Wing, Seed Destiny and Evangelion.

[Gasaraki]

Regarding the one guy hating on super robot: do yourself a favor and watch G Gundam, Ideon, and GaoGaiGar. If you don't like one of those three, you're not human.

That's not fair, I don't like any of those(haven't seen nor can find torrents for GaoGaiGar) but I love Giant Robo, Dangaioh, etc.

[Soluzar]

That's not fair, I don't like any of those(haven't seen nor can find torrents for GaoGaiGar) but I love Giant Robo, Dangaioh, etc.
GaoGaiGar is licensed, so it won't be easy to find torrents. Worse yet, it is now uncertain whether the rest of the series will even come out on DVD.

[Vaikyuko]

That's not fair, I don't like any of those(haven't seen nor can find torrents for GaoGaiGar) but I love Giant Robo, Dangaioh, etc.

How can you not like any of them when you haven't seen one on the list? Also, did you finish the other two, or just watch halfway? Ideon can be tough to get into, but G Gundam is worse because it starts out feeling rather episodic and almost monster of the weekish, but then ramps up into sex on a (NOT SOLUZAR) biscuit. >.>

Giant Robo is pretty good, Dangaioh I know nothing of. Explain?

[J Dude]

GaoGaiGar is licensed, so it won't be easy to find torrents. Worse yet, it is now uncertain whether the rest of the series will even come out on DVD.

lav2k4 told me that Media Blasters said at their panel at either Animexpo or Otakon that they would finish releasing GaoGaiGar on DVD eventually, though this is probably just the TV series. It seems more than likely that they didn't license GaoGaiGar Final and don't plan to release it, which would suck, because it was the best part of the entire show in my opinion. Like I said before, I don't think I'd want to buy GaoGaiGar without GaoGaiGar Final.

[lav2k4]

If more people actually bought GGG, then FINAL would have a really good chance of being licensed. I know I have no room to talk because I didn't start buying it yet, but i'm just saying.

[Gasaraki]

How can you not like any of them when you haven't seen one on the list? Also, did you finish the other two, or just watch halfway? Ideon can be tough to get into, but G Gundam is worse because it starts out feeling rather episodic and almost monster of the weekish, but then ramps up into sex on a (NOT SOLUZAR) biscuit. >.>

Giant Robo is pretty good, Dangaioh I know nothing of. Explain?

I've seen ALL of G Gundam, and I thought it was pretty meh. I only saw some of Ideon. Either way my point was just that I dont' see how those are like the absolute definitive super robot shows

Dangaioh's an 80's Mecha anime (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=571) that absolutely rocked. Only problem is the only US version is from Manga Ent. and the DVD only has english language on it =/

[Vaikyuko]

Never said they were definitive, I said if you don't like them you're not human. XD

In any case, if you finish Ideon, you'll see why it's so awesome. The ending is superb.

[J Dude]

If more people actually bought GGG, then FINAL would have a really good chance of being licensed. I know I have no room to talk because I didn't start buying it yet, but i'm just saying.

I know exactly what you mean, but I'm sure if even I were to support the release in hopes of GGG Final getting licensed, one person usually doesn't make a difference when it comes to something like that and a lot of people would have to be buying GGG, which I'm sure isn't happening unfortunately.

[lav2k4]

Will see. Only time will tell if the sales go up. I wonder how MB will release the rest of the series. Increase the episode count? Finish with collections? or just continue the way they were doing it before.

[Vaikyuko]

I'm just waiting until it's all released. I just don't like buying incomplete series that I'm unsure of (production-wise, I mean. For a long time we thought it was asically on hiatus). I'll buy it without Final, if need be, but I will definitely buy Final as well if it releases.

[Hisoka]

The chances of getting GGG Final are increased if people who like GGG actually buy the DVDs. It's on hiatus, but they expressed that all of it would be released in due time. That's how things work and is the main reason why companies don't license every little bit until it's know how well it's going to sell. One person will change little, but if everyone thinks this same way (which seems to be the case) than nothing can be done. I agree that they made a mistake and collections would have been much more appealing to me and just about everyone. Hopefully when it does return they think over the situation and observe that collections the rest of the way would be best.

[demecowen]

Icer One- Oh man it felt like the dub cast was taken from off the street and the people only read it once.

Geneshaft - one the ugliest mecha I seen, and storyline just dissolved at the end.

As for gundam seed -I have no respect for it, it ripped off the from not only the UC series, but almost every other form of gundam shows mesh it altogether hoping it turn into gold but ball of crap instead.

[CrossboneGundam]

I know exactly what you mean, but I'm sure if even I were to support the release in hopes of GGG Final getting licensed, one person usually doesn't make a difference when it comes to something like that and a lot of people would have to be buying GGG, which I'm sure isn't happening unfortunately.

And that's what all the other people who just download GGG instead of buying it say to themselves. Thanks for wussing out.

I, on the other hand, am expecting two newly purchased GGG DVDs in the mail to arrive within the next week. LET THE MARKET DECIDE.

[J Dude]

Thanks for wussing out.

I'm glad you care. :rolleyes:

[KT Kore]

Platinumhugen Ordian (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=3124) is by far the worst mecha anime I have ever seen. As a matter of fact, it's the worst anime I have ever seen, period.

I really wish that I could tell you about the plot, but this "plot" makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. I actually seriously think that this isn't the case of some of the worst writing ever known to man, but I think this was done rather purposely. For some reasons probably even unknown to God, these people decided to intentionally put together the most confusing, nonsensical plot that could ever be created. Watching this, I could tell you that I know for a fact that making sense was the last thing on their minds as they sat at the production meeting table. I wish I could have been there just to see what the HELL they were thinking when they came up with this show.

[Brill]

Although I haven't seen many mecha shows-only started seeing Kannazuki- I have to say the worst show that made almost no sense was Gravion. An unfavorable mention also need to goto Geneshaft.

[Sarky]

The obvious ... Gundam WING, Gundam SEED, Gundam SEED Destiny and G-Gundam. All 4 of these Gundam series were just utter failures, story and content wise.

The shocking ... Full Metal Panic! The GONZO directed-into-failure series. Terrible looking mechs, god those were ugly. The story was alright. To be perfectly honest. Thank goodness KyoAni handled Fumoffu and 2nd Raid. I don't think I would've gotten interested. 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

Sidenote, Kannazuki no Miko was so bad, it was good. That's why I liked it. Also, the twist near the end was pretty cool and pretty much made me overlook quite a bit.

[J Dude]

and G-Gundam. these Gundam series were just utter failures, story and content wise.

You know, I'd love to ask you why you think G Gundam was a failure, but you just might get angry and start yelling at me for asking for a detailed explanation for your opinion, like somehow I hurt your feelings. If KnM was so bad to you that it somehow was good, then I guess you really should like the four Gundam series you said were failures then, because ya know.... I guess they're so bad, that they're good, right? I love you Sarky... really. Ya know why? Because you're free from all logic. Logic... is for pussies!

[Hara!]

The lack of SD Gundam in this thread is frightening.

[Levon]

The lack of SD Gundam in this thread is frightening.

Because the real SD Gundam rules and we don't count that kids CGI version:P

[Sarky]

You know, I'd love to ask you why you think G Gundam was a failure, but you just might get angry and start yelling at me for asking for a detailed explanation for your opinion, like somehow I hurt your feelings. If KnM was so bad to you that it somehow was good, then I guess you really should like the four Gundam series you said were failures then, because ya know.... I guess they're so bad, that they're good, right? I love you Sarky... really. Ya know why? Because you're free from all logic. Logic... is for pussies!

G-Gundam had no real point. It just didn't work out in the end. After I completed watching it - wow, all yelling and no real story. I didn't like any characters, none of them had a lot of redeeming qualities, well - Master Asia had some redeeming qualities. The music made me gag. Overall, it was just badly disappointing.

The 3 recent Gundam series, Wing, SEED and SEED Destiny were just horrible. I couldn't get past episode 5 of each. Just too much angst and stupidity. Terrible looking character designs and somewhat bad music. You couldn't pay me to watch them. Since Fukoda isn't directing 00, I'm hoping for something to rejuvinate my interest in Gundam, as it has been lacking since I haven't been satisfied since Mobile Suit Gundam 08th MS Team.

Kannozuki was bad for 4-6 episodes, but in its last episodes, it really surprised me. I thought about stopping at ep 4, but decided to go on. It really paid off too.

[J Dude]

G-Gundam had no real point. It just didn't work out in the end. After I completed watching it - wow, all yelling and no real story. I didn't like any characters, none of them had a lot of redeeming qualities, well - Master Asia had some redeeming qualities. The music made me gag. Overall, it was just badly disappointing.

The show must have obviously went right over your head then if you think it had no real point. Domon became a Gundam fighter so that he could win the championship and his father would be released from a cryogenic state if Neo Japan won the Gundam Fight. He also did it so he can find his brother Kyoji and the Devil Gundam. That was the point of the show. Again, I just don't understand how you can say G Gundam has no real point. You're a very hard person to understand it seems. I definitely don't agree with your opinion that the music was bad. G Gundam had some great music. I'd love to hear some examples of great music from you.

[Sarky]

The show must have obviously went right over your head then if you think it had no real point. Domon became a Gundam fighter so that he could win the championship and his father would be released from a cryogenic state if Neo Japan won the Gundam Fight. He also did it so he can find his brother Kyoji and the Devil Gundam. That was the point of the show. Again, I just don't understand how you can say G Gundam has no real point. You're a very hard person to understand it seems. I definitely don't agree with your opinion that the music was bad. G Gundam had some great music. I'd love to hear some examples of great music from you.

Maybe the fact because its a long series(which I despise on occasion) probably influenced my opinion of it. If it were shorter and more to-the-point, I probably would've liked it so much more. The point of the show got lost in the middle to me(26-39) is what I would think.

Great music? 08th MS Team's OP/ED for one. Another example is GaoGaiGar's OP. Giant Robo's music is masterpiece. 3 examples should be good enough.

[J Dude]

Great music? 08th MS Team's OP/ED for one. Another example is GaoGaiGar's OP. Giant Robo's music is masterpiece. 3 examples should be good enough.

While I can't comment on Giant Robo since I haven't seen any of it, I can comment on the others. Yes GaoGaiGar's OP is great stuff and while I don't really think the OP/ED to 08th MS Team were anything memorable, they certainly weren't bad either. It's funny that you say that the music in G Gundam made you gag, since the same composer did the BGM for GaoGaiGar, which I also thought was great stuff.

[Levon]

G-Gundam had no real point. It just didn't work out in the end. After I completed watching it - wow, all yelling and no real story. I didn't like any characters, none of them had a lot of redeeming qualities, well - Master Asia had some redeeming qualities. The music made me gag. Overall, it was just badly disappointing.

I take it by "the music made me gag" you meant like the OP/ED songs. Because the BGM was amazing by Kouhei Tanaka who also did the music for the 08th MS Team & GaoGaiGar.



The 3 recent Gundam series, Wing, SEED and SEED Destiny were just horrible. I couldn't get past episode 5 of each. Just too much angst and stupidity. Terrible looking character designs and somewhat bad music. You couldn't pay me to watch them. Since Fukoda isn't directing 00, I'm hoping for something to rejuvinate my interest in Gundam, as it has been lacking since I haven't been satisfied since Mobile Suit Gundam 08th MS Team.


3 recent Gundam series? Wing was made in 1995, then there was 08th MS Team, X & Turn A.

I don't see what was bad about the music at all. They all have great music, even people who hate them at least agree there. Actually I can't think of any Gundam that disapoints when it comes to music.

Maybe you should try watching more than 5 episodes which isn't much considering its a 50 episode series.
When SEED first came out I couldn't stand it, I must have retried it at least 3 times but always stopped after a few episodes. But then I started watching it on DVD & everything about the show including the story, characters, music, animation, etc. improves greatly as it goes. I loved the new BGM music they added in the second half of the show, thought the music was amazing.

[KT Kore]

I take it by "the music made me gag" you meant like the OP/ED songs.

And those were good stuff, too.

[J Dude]

And those were good stuff, too.

Hell yea they were. Flying in the Sky and Trust You Forever are both great songs.

[Levon]

Yeah I really liked them as well.

I thought 08th MS Team had the weakest OP/ED songs of any Gundam.

[Sarky]

I take it by "the music made me gag" you meant like the OP/ED songs. Because the BGM was amazing by Kouhei Tanaka who also did the music for the 08th MS Team & GaoGaiGar.

Yes, the OP/ED songs.

[quote=Levon]
Maybe you should try watching more than 5 episodes which isn't much considering its a 50 episode series.
When SEED first came out I couldn't stand it, I must have retried it at least 3 times but always stopped after a few episodes. But then I started watching it on DVD & everything about the show including the story, characters, music, animation, etc. improves greatly as it goes. I loved the new BGM music they added in the second half of the show, thought the music was amazing.

I wouldn't waste anymore time on that director's Gundam series. He's a disgrace to the franchise and ruined it for me. I only hope SM can save the Gundam franchise... If only Tomino would come back and direct 1 more. That'd be great.


I thought 08th MS Team had the weakest OP/ED songs of any Gundam.

2ch would totally disagree with that... (points to another topic..)

[J Dude]

2ch would totally disagree with that... (points to another topic..)

But I don't think anyone really cares what some people on an image board would say, unless you're referring to the 2chan forum which is a Japanese forum full of otaku and not the iichan.net. Even then, I certainly don't care what a bunch of nerds who sleep with anime females on their bedsheets and pillows would have to say.

[Tom Servo]

Gasaraki..I have to say I was the worst thing i've ever seen.
I can understand why folks don't like Gasaraki, but I found it to be very interesting. Was just thinking today about the MileOne muscle tissue, and the connection between that and the Kai's recollection of past lives.

I really disliked Blue Gender, while it had some nice pieces of animation everything about it was very bland.

[Levon]

I liked Gasaraki & Blue Gender:lol: Those two get a lot of hatred.

[Tom Servo]

Blue Gender seemed for me to take blowing up evil insect aliens and made it... unexciting, not sure that's the right word for it. When I first watched it I was expecting it to be more like the Starship Trooper movie and to just be fun to watch. Whenever there was a scene with the two main characters talking it felt empty to me, that might have been because I was watching the dubbed version tho'.

Whereas with Gasaraki you know straight off the bat that it isn't so much about the characters as the situation they are in, which stretches internationally into the middle east and hundreds of years into the past - which I found really engaging despite it's slow pace. It's definitely in my top ten list. ^_^

[Levon]

I only watch it dubbed and thought the dub was great for an early FUNi dub. Lisa Ortiz voices a main character(Alicia) which is a surprise, its her only FUNi role I believe.
I liked how the first half was like a survial story & I liked how everything goes insane in the second half. I liked the story about how Earth created these monsters to help itself heal. I liked the character development also, both characters change so much.

Did you watch it on Adult Swim? Because its edited a great deal with the gore & nudity/sex. Maybe not enough to really have an effect on the story but theres more of an impact when you see a main character die in a violent death than if it was edited or toned down:P


With Gasaraki its all about the story & well written dialog for me. Characters wern't that good.

[Phantom]

Blue Gender is as far from bland as you can get really. Its not a out and out action show as some may think going into it as thats the the world is like nowadays. Its just the normal routine for the soldiers, that each day they may end up die at any moment so they may seem a bit detached and uncaring but thats the way they deal with it.

The characters also change a lot as the series gos on thanks to there shared experiences.

[Quiddity]

Candidate for Goddess AKA Pilot Candidate. Not only worst mecha/super robot series, quite possibly worst anime I have ever seen.

[Westlo]

Candidate for Goddess AKA Pilot Candidate. Not only worst mecha/super robot series, quite possibly worst anime I have ever seen.

I hate you for reminding me of that horrible show, only the Xenosaga anime comes close to it!

[Hara!]

It gets way worse than that.

[JuraBasilElden]

Eureka 7--------------------------P-U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[emotoaster]

I second Pilot Candidate as worst anime evar!

[Hara!]

I second Pilot Candidate as worst anime evar!

I actually kinda liked the 6 episodes.

[Ridley-X4]

Vandread. It's just any generic harem anime, only with robots. It's no wonder it's called VanDREAD.

[Levon]

Jinki Extend is really bad, it started out decent & then just worse:x

[Caster13]

Did Candidate for Goddess even have a plot? I must have missed it, cause AS kept messing up the episode order.

[old hat]

A long time ago I rented a thing called MAPS on VHS. Good grief that was bad.

[gardevoir]

ive seen many mecha animes, and i liked them all, but if i had to choose the one that i liked least, id say Zoids

[observer80]

It's a tossup in my collection. Gasaraki for Blue Gender. I have Vandread but ill take it ovr those two any day of the week.

Gasaraki has the most bland, generic, plain characters ive ever seen. Everyone looks the same, either having black or brown hair so I can't picture them in my mind and think "yeah that's (blank)" I can only remember the names of the two main characters because, quite frankly everyone else has a long winded japanese name.

So Gasaraki suffers from characters that blend into eachother and they have names that just don't stick. Ive watched it 3 times through and it's kinda in one ear out the other.


Blue Gender came off as a depressing snuff film at times. People being killed in totally "brutal" fashion mixed in with nudity and sex scenes that remind me of eyes wide shut or something. Alot of the characters have this monotone personality but then they just start doing it at unexpected times, and there is no pesonality involved. For example


In the opening 2 episodes, the girl technitian is doing her job, the one dude walks in and starts feeling up her titties and she continues on like nothing is happening, five minutes later, she gets her head smashed against the wall and is spitting up blood.........WHAT THE **** AM I WATCHING??!!

Atleast Evangelion gave reasons and emotion to the sex scenes. This was just hypnotized people fighting giant bugs and porking when they got the chance, usually right before a gruesome death. IT DID get interesting for a short time when Yugi started changing and Marlene had to bring him back. Then they totally shot it to hell with the ending. These are my opinions anyway, I know some shmutz on a mission from god is gonna tell me otherwise.:P


For all the **** Gasaraki might get (I can understand why) I have to go and say something extreme. I think Gasaraki had a MUCH better soundtrack than Evangelion-_-; I own both CD's for the series and nearly all the soundtracks cds for EVA and Gasaraki just sounds more epic. So crap characters, crap story, but excellent music.


Blue Gender was trying to mind **** me but it didn't make me think like Eva. So it's a failure in that category.

[CrossboneGundam]

RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE

Also Overman King Gainer. What a steaming pile of ****.

[Bernard_Monsha]

^

I liked King Gainer.


Eureka 7 is terrible.

[Levon]

Yeah I found Overman King Gainer a ton of fun :thumbsup: Much like Tomino's L-Gaim & Xabungle. Not really deep or anything, just very fun mecha shows.

[CrossboneGundam]

Overman King Gainer didn't deserve the opening theme it had. Shallow, unlikable, poorly developed characters with paper-thin personalities and motivations, nonsensical plot twists and storylines pulled out of some kind of cosmic ******* without any prior mention or setup or explanation, ugly designs, boring action, etc. etc. etc.

"LOOK! IT'S EARLY MEEYA, YOU KNOW, THE ONE WHO WE ALL KNOW ABOUT EVEN THOUGH THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS EVER BEEN MENTIONED! SHE'S EARLY BECAUSE SHE'S NOT THE SAME AS HER IDENTICAL TWIN WHO'S JUST SOME CRAPPY SINGER ON A VESPA WHO IS NOT DEAD AND HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THE PLOT WHATSOEVER ALSO GOURRY KILLED YOUR DEAD PARENTS WHO WEREN'T DEAD UNTIL NOW BUT THE REASON WHY YOU WERE A LAZY SLACKER WHO DIDN'T GO TO SCHOOL FOR A MONTH BEFORE WAS BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T A LAZY SLACKER WHO JUST DIDN'T GO TO SCHOOL FOR A MONTH, IT WAS BECAUSE YOUR DEARLY BELOVED PARENTS WHO YOU'VE NEVER SEEN WERE KILLED BY YOUR GOOD FRIEND SUPPORTING FATGUY NINJA" etc.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Still better than Eureka 7, standing and scowling or running away crying is not character development. Plus it had the fugliest mechs ever and put them on surf boards.

[CrossboneGundam]

Still better than Eureka 7, standing and scowling or running away crying is not character development. Plus it had the fugliest mechs ever and put them on surf boards.

At least Eureka 7 had a plot outline from the start and they didn't just pull random crap out of their *** the week before the episode was supposed to be finished.

[Levon]

Eureka 7's plot outline was slow as hell. Overman King Gainer is the complete opposite, very fast plot that's fun(for some of us) to watch even if it is stupid. Most Super Robot anime are stupid, still good fun. Not annoying to watch like Eureka 7.

[Schadenfreude]

What was it the great Bernard once said? Eureka 7 is like the 2 girls one cup of mecha?

[Zerotaku]

I'm going to be disliked a lot for this one but... Neon Genesis Evangelion. I HATED it. First of all, that much religious symbolism might work for a novel, but not a 26-episode anime. You realize that there are so many avenues the series takes into obscure disciplines(e.g. the Jewish mystic tradition of the Kabbalah and the numerology behind it) that you will never wrap your head around it completely. I also ended up hating every character by the end of the series(aside from Asuka, but I just ended up feeling sorry for her). The mechs were ugly(stick people with armor), and the story, yet again screwed over by the symbolism, makes barely any sense to me at all. Oddly enough, I liked this series the first time I saw it. You'll be amazed at what a 2nd viewing can do to an opinion.

I'd also like to mention Macross II: Lovers Again, constantly called a disgrace to the Macross franchise by the fans, and I pretty much agree, aside from the always awesome variable fighters.

[Levon]

Your not alone, many don't like Evangelion. Its understandable since the characters are annoying :P
I like it though, I dig the story & love the mecha designs. The idea of piloting a giant human covered in armor I find very neat.

The Rebuild movies I find even better than the TV series.

[superplough]

I'm surprised this thread made it for 4 years without NGE being mentioned :lol:

I haven't seen that many mecha shows (have I see any that aren't Zoids or NGE? oh wait Gunbuster. that was good though.) so I have to put NGE too, simply because I haven't seen one worse yet.

I wanted to watch Kanazuki no Miko for a while... *DESPERATE YURI FAN* but then found out it sucks. Lol.

[KT Kore]

Watching KnM will make you realize that Shinji really wasn't all that bad.

http://i53.tinypic.com/205toac.jpg

Die ***** die. God it was so stupid.

Show's still not worse than Platinumhugen Ordian though. People that thought Eva didn't make sense for whatever reason will want to kill themselves after watching this. Even Brain Powered was better.

[RayearthIX]

I'm voting for Gekigangar III!

...

Just kidding. It was classically awesome and only exists inside another fun one called Martian Successor Nadesico ... :)

GaoGaiGar is my vote. Thought I was going to have an epilectic seizure wacthing that show...certainly got really bad headaches.

There are 2 or 3 Gundam series (Destiny, G, and SD, but that's the or cause I don't know if it counts) I could vote for, but my expectations are unrealistically high for Gundam series bcause I've seen so many great ones.

To repeat, GaoGaiGar and its seizure/headache inducing visuals for the win...or something like that.

[Mickeymac92]

Easy vote for me: Genesis of Aquarion, Every single minute of it was pure torture, ugh. >_<

[KT Kore]

GaoGaiGar is my vote. Thought I was going to have an epilectic seizure wacthing that show...certainly got really bad headaches.

I love GaoGaiGar but those flashing scenes from the enemy HQ were horrible. How those scenes didn't send a thousand Japanese kids to the hospital like Pokemon did is beyond me.

Easy vote for me: Genesis of Aquarion, Every single minute of it was pure torture, ugh. >_<

I call that show Orgasm Mecha. :lol:

[Vaikyuko]

I'm going to be disliked a lot for this one but... Neon Genesis Evangelion. I HATED it. First of all, that much religious symbolism might work for a novel, but not a 26-episode anime. You realize that there are so many avenues the series takes into obscure disciplines(e.g. the Jewish mystic tradition of the Kabbalah and the numerology behind it) that you will never wrap your head around it completely. I also ended up hating every character by the end of the series(aside from Asuka, but I just ended up feeling sorry for her). The mechs were ugly(stick people with armor), and the story, yet again screwed over by the symbolism, makes barely any sense to me at all. Oddly enough, I liked this series the first time I saw it. You'll be amazed at what a 2nd viewing can do to an opinion.

But...the symbolism doesn't mean anything. No really, the staff stated (Tsurumaki specifically, if memory serves) that the symbolism was just for visual eccentricity, and they chose Judeo-Christian mythology because it would appear more unique in Japan.

I can definitely see where people hate the characters. Not the mecha design though! The only problem there is that the EVAs aren't drawn consistently. :lol:

[Mickeymac92]

I call that show Orgasm Mecha. :lol:

No kidding. They kinda took things a bit too far if you ask me.-_-;

[Zerotaku]

Easy vote for me: Genesis of Aquarion, Every single minute of it was pure torture, ugh. >_<

Actually kind of agree here. While it did have it's moments(I enjoyed some of the later fight scenes), overall it wasn't very good. The mech design was pretty cool though. Very reminiscent of Ken Ishikawa and Go Nagai's Getter Robo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8XxPmObYCA) in terms of how they combine(excluding the moaning of course).

[Levon]

No kidding. They kinda took things a bit too far if you ask me.-_-;

Those scenes were the best parts of the show :lol:

[Arnold]

I didn't like Macross 7 (doesn't help that the most annoying male character in anime is the LEAD) but I also didn't finish it, so I don't know if that counts.

But among those I finished, I'd have to say... Gundam Wing. The thing is, I liked this series a lot when I first saw it. But the thing is, I've seen other "real robot" mecha series since then, particularly Macross, Zeta Gundam, and the original Gundam, and Wing started to come off a bit juvenile and derivative.

[Bernard_Monsha]

E7 still wins.

[A Dead Spy]

End of Evangelion.

Sure, the original series was bad enough in terms of overly done angst, but EoE is just one big temper tantrum from Anno that had gone way too far. To put it shortly: when the very first scene involves the whiny protagonist masturbating in front of a comatose 14-year-old girl, you know it's only downhill from there.

[Mickeymac92]

End of Evangelion.

Sure, the original series was bad enough in terms of overly done angst, but EoE is just one big temper tantrum from Anno that had gone way too far. To put it shortly: when the very first scene involves the whiny protagonist masturbating in front of a comatose 14-year-old girl, you know it's only downhill from there.

I try to forget that movie ever happened...and you know, I almost succeeded!

[A Dead Spy]

Speaking of anime that I'd like to forget ever happened, I just remembered something even worse:

Candidate for Goddess. Being a cheap Eva knockoff was bad enough, but then you have horribly placed CGI, cookie-cutter characters, a plot that ultimately goes nowhere... God, I just want those 5-6 hours of my life back.

[Levon]

I remember when Candidate for Goddess first aired on Adult Swim :huh: I couldn't even get through the first episode, it was painfully dreadful.

CGI was like something out of an old Sega Saturn game.
http://www.anime-planet.com/images/anime/screenshots/candidategoddess1.jpg

[thewayneiac]

I recently finished linebarrels of Iron. It was the closest thing to a troll series I ever saw. I ended up hating it, but still not as much as Gasaraki.

[greg]

I recently finished linebarrels of Iron. It was the closest thing to a troll series I ever saw. I ended up hating it, but still not as much as Gasaraki.

Oh crap, I know that series Linebarrels of Iron! I caught a bit of it in Japan a year or two ago. That show sucks.

Here's another stupid mecha anime I've seen in Japan: Zettai Muteki Raijin-Oh. I can't believe they even tried releasing this one in English (I didn't know that until I just looked at the Wikipedia article) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettai_Muteki_Raijin-Oh). I understand that this show is geared towards children, but come on, the show could still appeal to children and not have the ridiculous premise of "let's entrust the defense of the Earth to a bunch of elementary school kids!" This is nothing new to Japan, since we've been seeing children nearly commanding the military in the kaijuu movies dating back to the '60s at least. It's still ridiculous nonetheless.

Macross 7. I saw this fansubbed back when it was first released back in '95 or so. I was a member of an old anime BBS in the Phoenix area called the Anime Archive and we'd have these anime get togethers in which we would watch tons of cool fan subs. When we saw Macross 7, I was literally rolling on the floor laughing. The concept of flying a space jet fighter by playing a guitar is just ridiculous. I love Mikimoto's artwork and I'm sure the manga is great at least in that respect, but I'd rather pretend that Macross 7 never existed.

Pretty much every non-UC, non-Tomino Gundam series. I saw G Gundam and I was like, What the heck do they think they're doing to Gundam! Stop it now! Wing was annoying, and Seed Destiny was atrocious with its emo crap and floppy titties. Heck, Godannar was nothing but floppy titties, but that show was at least had an interesting, compelling plot. I'm not at all interested in ever watching 00, either. Not even the mecha look cool in this show, and up until now, even the lame Gundam shows like G or Wing had cool looking mecha at least. (IN MY OPINION, at least.)

Evangelion. It's not the most terrible (it seems that Eureka 7 and a few others mentioned in this thread are worse, but I haven't seen them), but I just don't like what Evangeion did to mecha anime (or anime in general). It had a catchy theme song, interesting premise, and it was great for the first 15 episodes or so until it got really psychotic.

[Sharp-kun]

Never watch the old Cybuster anime.


Never.

[Clayton]

Man this is a tough one... I think a lot of mecha shows kinda suck. Evangelion for example.

But the worst woul dhave to be the Transformers spin-off fromt he 80's called Go-Bots

http://www.stomptokyo.com/otf/RobotJox/gobots_scooter.jpg

[greg]

But the worst woul dhave to be the Transformers spin-off fromt he 80's called Go-Bots

http://www.stomptokyo.com/otf/RobotJox/gobots_scooter.jpg
Oh, looking at that picture reminds me of Scooter's voice and how annoying it was! But wasn't that a Hanna Barbera show? I wouldn't call that "anime."

[GreyGhost02]

I’m going to go with Gundam Wing. When it showed Toonami, I thought it was the best TV show ever. But then I discovered U.C and went from there. I few months back I watched some Gundam Wing and lasted about ten episodes before calling it a day.

[Ryvius]

Probably Victory Gundam for me. Trust me, I love Tomino more than the average guy (hell I loved Ideon and didn't think Dunbine or ZZ were that bad), but Victory was one of the most dull, lifeless, boring shows I've ever seen. Not a single character I legitimately liked. Visually looked insanely bad too for an early 90's series, I think this was when Sunrise was about to go under and Bandai purchased them (which Tomino was against).

It seems like Tomino is very outspoken against Victory and hates it. He clearly didn't want to work on it at the time from what many sources say, and so I will say in a weird sense to me, he succeeded at what he wanted to do with Victory... made it terrible. Success!

It also boils my piss that basically, we got Victory instead of a F91 series, which very well could have been incredible stuff. Terrible.

I thought Zambot was pretty damn bad too, until the last handful of episodes.

Season 2 of Code Geass and Gundam 00 are probably next in line. It's funny how hit or miss Gundam's are.

[Soluzar]

Oh, looking at that picture reminds me of Scooter's voice and how annoying it was! But wasn't that a Hanna Barbera show? I wouldn't call that "anime."
Perhaps it was technically a Hanna-Barbera show in America, but it's ultimately anime in origin. It's got about the same relationship to anime as Power Rangers has to Super Sentai, I suppose.

The original source was called Machine Robo.

I know some people will hate me for this, but my vote goes to Gurren Lagann. Still not as bad as Gundam Wing which I mentioned in my earlier post though. Bad in a very different way, at least.

I don't care if people want to like those series for their own reasons though.

I will say that I hate UC Gundam almost as much as I love it. It could be so much better than it has been. It tells an awesome story with awesome characters... really badly. The pacing is generally all over the place, and the story is not easy to follow.

[Mickeymac92]

It also boils my piss that basically, we got Victory instead of a F91 series, which very well could have been incredible stuff. Terrible.

I definitely agree with this. I don't hate Victory Gundam, but I do feel that we could've done without it, and F91 definitely had the potential to be a great show.

[Levon]

It seems like Tomino is very outspoken against Victory and hates it. He clearly didn't want to work on it at the time from what many sources say, and so I will say in a weird sense to me, he succeeded at what he wanted to do with Victory... made it terrible. Success!


Some directors are extremely eccentric about their work. Tezuka got sick of working on Astro Boy just like Tomino gets sick of Gundam. Tezuka said this about Astro Boy, "I personally consider it one of my worst works I've done. I only did it for the exposure & money." I don't judge based on what the directors opinion is.

Tomino bashes Victory but says nothing about Brain Powered? I think he was just sick of Gundam and had such a hard time making it that he hates it. As we know he didn't come back to making a Gundam anime until Turn A.

I loved V Gundam myself, a [mostly] serious war story that involves children that I found extremely emotional. My only complaint was the construction of the first episodes, that was a horrible idea.

[Ryvius]

Well yeah that happens a lot, he didn't even want to do Zeta from the beginning. Nonetheless it's just one of my silly attempts to legitimately bash Victory. :P

Also, it's hard to focus with your avatar. lol

[Levon]

Why do directors love to voice their opinion and bash things? Miyazaki bashes modern animation, video games, moe, iPads, etc.

As for Tomino: "I think that video games are evil"

Just shut up and make your damn robot anime! :P Doesn't Tomino not peculiarity watch & even like mecha anime outside some of his own? Odd man but I love his work...besides Brain Powered. That show is painfully to watch.


Dancing girl in an infinite loop is hypnotic. I'll lose track of hours starring at it.

[old hat]

Yumeria. If Kannazuki no Miko counts, so does this. It's a stupid, incoherent, pervy, ridiculous show.

[Ryvius]

Why do directors love to voice their opinion and bash things? Miyazaki bashes modern animation, video games, moe, iPads, etc.

As for Tomino: "I think that video games are evil"

Just shut up and make your damn robot anime! :P Doesn't Tomino not peculiarity watch & even like mecha anime outside some of his own? Odd man but I love his work...besides Brain Powered. That show is painfully to watch.


Dancing girl in an infinite loop is hypnotic. I'll lose track of hours starring at it.
Yeah I actually hear the very same about Miyazaki, both him and Tomino are among the "cranky" oldies that supposedly almost refuse to watch anything outside of their own work. I wonder if Tomino at least watched some 90's Gundam though, since he gave Imagawa the torch for G, and then wanted to bring all the shows up to that point together with Turn A (even though it wasn't a huge deal I guess in the grand scheme of things, if you've seen the series it's not like that aspect had much merit).

Ryosuke Takahashi sounds so much more down to Earth and nicer, lol. When you see some modern pictures of Miyazaki or Tomino they don't look very approachable at all, but Ryosuke just looks awesome. I hear he is an insane Japanese Nationalist though, haha. With shows like Gasaraki though I guess you can go figure. But his 80's works are the best in my book, Votoms, Layzner, Dougram, so good, Galient was cool as well. He got a little crazy with the politics after the 80's ... :rolleyes:

[KatayokuのTenshi]

Pretty much every non-UC, non-Tomino Gundam series. I saw G Gundam and I was like, What the heck do they think they're doing to Gundam! Stop it now!

Ha ha, silly me I must have misread, I thought you said...

G Gundam

...I don't understand.

[old hat]

He's probably referring to the absurdity of Dragon Mobile Fighter G Gundam Ball Z. Gundam Fight Begins!

[greg]

Ha ha, silly me I must have misread, I thought you said...

...I don't understand.
Mobile Fighter G Gundam is not a part of the UC timeline. I don't think I was being inconsistent. Are you telling me it is part of the Tomino UC timeline?

About V Gundam, I actually liked it. I'd take it over G Gundam or Seed or Wing or whatever else. My wife liked it, especially Shakti. However, if people say they hate it, I won't bother defending it much.

Oh, and I'm willing to make an exception for Gundam X. I haven't seen it yet, but it looks promising.

He's probably referring to the absurdity of Dragon Mobile Fighter G Gundam Ball Z. Gundam Fight Begins!
Oh, that is pefect! That describes very well why G Gundam bites.

[Levon]

Oh, and I'm willing to make an exception for Gundam X. I haven't seen it yet, but it looks promising.


You should watch it. I'm currently watching it since its like the only Gundam I haven't seen and out of all the AU's its probably the closest to the UC. Its just got that same tone to it, there's even Newtypes.

[Caster13]

Holy crappers this thread is old. Given it's age, I'll post an update.

Gundam SEED. It sucked and blew at the same time. It was worse than Candidate for Goddess. Yes I just went there.

[Ryvius]

Gundam X probably could have saved Gundam in the US.