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GoldSteel
July 28th, 2007, 12:35 AM
which clan you think will win if against each other? pretend the uchiha is never one of the main clan in the series. who will win?

how bout individual fighter? sasuke vs neji and pretend saske is never one of the main charecter besides naruto. who will win?

to me i never like sasuke but that wont interfere me or make me a bias from the discision but at the end i would still say neji. hyuga wins.

u_nick
July 28th, 2007, 05:14 AM
As much as I dont care for Sasuke, I give him and his clan the win. The Hyuuga always seemed to pompous to me, where the Uchiha clan has always seemed more calculating.

Kali-chan
July 28th, 2007, 07:28 AM
I think the Uchihas would win. The Hyuugas might have the upper hand for a while, but in the end, ^ has it. The Uchihas are simply more calculating.

Cow
July 28th, 2007, 08:38 AM
Hyuuga blood can never surpass Uchiha blood.

Jack_Bauer
July 28th, 2007, 04:56 PM
I cant make any decisions on this because we dont know the full extent of the Hyuuga bloodline clan. We have seen a lot of what the Uchiha bloodline can do but not the Hyuuga's.


I think even Sasuke would have a hard time dodging the Jyuuken technique and if he ever fell to that technique, there goes his chakra flow and he's screwed..

Sasuke however has his Sharingan. though Im not sure if he can copy a technique like the Jyuuken, he has a lot of techiuqes already than can compensate and fight against Neji..

Wont get a vote for me. I dont like Sasuke at all but it doesnt mean I dont recognize his skills at all.

ZeroRyoko1974
July 28th, 2007, 05:48 PM
Sasuke should be able to copy the jyuuken, its just a fighting style, its not part of the bloodline limits. It would be an interesting fight between Sasuke and Neji. If Sasuke masters some of the genjetsu techniques of the Sharingan it would make it considerably more difficult. Itachi vs Neji would be a short fight unless the bayakugen (sp?) has some kind of resistance to mengakiyo (sp?) sharingin. And even if it does, I am sure that Itachi has all kinds of other tricks up his sleeve he could beat Neji with

Jack_Bauer
July 28th, 2007, 06:15 PM
Maybe. Like I said, I dont like Sasuke at all but I recognize his skills.

But again, the Hyuuga's has not shown their true skills.

The Jyuuken is not just Taijutsu, it also involves the use of the Byakugan. I dont think Sasuke can copy the way the byakugan to accurately tell where to hit all the chakra points.. so I doubt the Sharingan can accurately copy the Jyuuken.

ZeroRyoko1974
July 28th, 2007, 06:21 PM
It could copy it to the point of perhaps using it to hit pressure points to immobilise an enemy.

Buicovo
July 28th, 2007, 06:29 PM
Regardless of how awesome a fighter Neji is, the Sharingan is so ridiculously powerful that at this point, virtually nothing can beat it.

Uchiha wins, unfortunately.

Jack_Bauer
July 28th, 2007, 06:32 PM
Regardless of how awesome a fighter Neji is, the Sharingan is so ridiculously powerful that at this point, virtually nothing can beat it.

Uchiha wins, unfortunately.

Very true.... but Im sticking to my no decision for the pure fact that have not seen all of the Hyuuga's abilities. It may be true that they are inferior to the Uchiha.

But as any techniques, there are flaws and there have been some ways to counter.. ;)

reo
July 28th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Honestly, I don't really understand why some of you think it's a clear victory for the Sharingan and Uchiha clan, when ....

1) Hyuuga is the origin of Uchiha
2) Byakugan's insight exceeds the Sharingan (watch ep. 46)
3) For all those who are saying Sasuke is the clear winner vs Neji, you do realize that Neji's power is somewhat sealed, right?

As for the argument that it's possible for Jyuuken to be copied, it's been mentioned that Byakugan is required for Jyuuken, hence there's no point in mentioning it again.

Regardless, the only one who can settle this is Kishi. Until then, one can only hope for an epic battle between these 2.

Jack_Bauer
July 28th, 2007, 09:53 PM
Honestly, I don't really understand why some of you think it's a clear victory for the Sharingan and Uchiha clan, when ....


As for the argument that it's possible for Jyuuken to be copied, it's been mentioned that Byakugan is required for Jyuuken, hence there's no point in mentioning it again.


yea, i already mentioned this. I really dont think that what we've seen so far is the extent of the Hyuuga family abilities. Remember the flashback about the so called truce between Konoha and the other village (which i cant remember at this time)? and the only reason why this truce happened is so that they can kidnap Hinata so they can figure out the secrets of the Byakugan? From what I gathered, it seems that the Byakugan holds more than what is being shown. I mean hell, the secrets of the Byakugan is so important that they ha to dedicate a branch family to protect the head family itself and seal the branch family member's abilties.. I think Kishi is holding on something for us in regards of the Hyuuga family.

Heres to hoping!

u_nick
July 29th, 2007, 06:26 AM
2) Byakugan's insight exceeds the Sharingan (watch ep. 46)


I didnt see this as a battle of strictly one power versus another power. If the question was if a generic noob Byakugan user fought a generic noob Sharingan user, perhaps I would have said Byakugan would have one, since like you say, the 'insight exceeds the Sharingan'.

But with the personalities of the two groups involve, and how they use their respective powers, and other various factors surrounding them, I still give the win to Uchiha.

Its like Batman. He has a lot of powerful and dangerous enemies. Batman doesnt have any powers at all. But the way he uses what he does have allows him to win every time.

reo
July 29th, 2007, 08:21 AM
But with the personalities of the two groups involved, and how they use their respective powers, and other various factors surrounding them, I still give the win to Uchiha.
You would still give the win to Uchiha, knowing that you haven't seen the full extent of Hyuuga's powers?

What if roles have been reversed, and Neji, with no seal, is the one seeking power to avenge his clan, while Sasuke is in a dilemma because his powers are sealed, would you still give Uchiha the win?

I'm just trying to have an objective view on this, because most of the replies on this topic are either biased to Uchiha, or just assume that they know the full range of each clan's jutsu and judge based on that.

In the end, if I have a choice between "Naruto vs Sasuke" and "Neji vs Sasuke", I'll choose the latter, simply because both are doujutsu users, which would make it a perfect match !

Cow
July 29th, 2007, 08:29 AM
Honestly, I don't really understand why some of you think it's a clear victory for the Sharingan and Uchiha clan, when ....

1) Hyuuga is the origin of Uchiha
2) Byakugan's insight exceeds the Sharingan (watch ep. 46)
3) For all those who are saying Sasuke is the clear winner vs Neji, you do realize that Neji's power is somewhat sealed, right?

As for the argument that it's possible for Jyuuken to be copied, it's been mentioned that Byakugan is required for Jyuuken, hence there's no point in mentioning it again.

Regardless, the only one who can settle this is Kishi. Until then, one can only hope for an epic battle between these 2.

1) Thats a theory, if you have read the theory on NarutoFan its certainely a good one, but a theory none the less.
2) Sharingan does not work like that, its ability is to not see far ahead.

reo
July 29th, 2007, 08:51 AM
1) Thats a theory, if you have read the theory on NarutoFan its certainely a good one, but a theory none the less.
2) Sharingan does not work like that, its ability is to not see far ahead.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2233/untitledfm9.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/236/untitled1yw3.jpg

It's a theory on NarutoFan? never really checked into it.

Also, I understand what you mean regarding the Sharingan's scope. But Kakashi's statement is interpreted in a sense that Byakugan's insight can see more into the enemy's abilities than the Sharingan.

Cow
July 29th, 2007, 08:59 AM
Laugh, its rare for me to forget such tid bits; it doesn't change the out come though. Its pretty obvious / publicized that Ksihi has a bias view toward the Sharingan.

Insight is useful if someone is running away, which would be quite rare for the Sharingan users that are still alive.

Cow
July 29th, 2007, 09:11 AM
The theory on NarutoFan is that its a descendant from Tengu, which is a decent theory.

The Hyuuga can see someones potential by viewing their Chakra, the Sharingan (if they reach the 3 prong) can predict the movement of the attack, its up to you to decide which is more useful. I'd rather have a Sharingan user on my side any day. The Sharingan is weak against Jinchuuriki because they can't sense the separate chakra attacks.

reo
July 29th, 2007, 09:17 AM
Laugh, its rare for me to forget such tid bits; it doesn't change the out come though. Its pretty obvious / publicized that Ksihi has a bias view toward the Sharingan.

Insight is useful if someone is running away, which would be quite rare for the Sharingan users that are still alive.
Hehe :), it's also rare for me to pursue such arguments as far as I did in this topic (check my post count).

I don't really get into theories and topics like this that often, but someone had to defend the objectivity of the poll, and it just happened to be me :).

The theory on NarutoFan is that its a descendant from Tengu, which is a decent theory.

The Hyuuga can see someones potential by viewing their Chakra, the Sharingan (if they reach the 3 prong) can predict the movement of the attack, its up to you to decide which is more useful. I'd rather have a Sharingan user on my side any day. The Sharingan is weak against Jinchuuriki because they can't sense the separate chakra attacks.
Hehe, this brings back memories of Naruto's berserk stage in ep. 133. I'm honestly looking forward to seeing more action soon, given how the manga is heading in that direction now.

animefreak0762
July 31st, 2007, 12:20 PM
i don't know