Chapter 363 *spoilers*

[DarkNataku]

It looks like AK leader and his with the blue hair woman are finally shown and there target is Naruto.

AK Leader (http://www.saiyanisland.com/images/details.php?image_id=14810&sessionid=022f1fcd79fcbe574bc2f4d1c046c0 75)
ak and woman (http://www.saiyanisland.com/images/details.php?image_id=14809)
woman (http://www.saiyanisland.com/images/details.php?image_id=14811)

[Big Shot]

Hey man thanks alot!!!!!!! This chapter has REALLY picked up the pace of the series, just by showing both AL's and the girl's faces. From a couple of spoilers I've read, it appears the AL is not the top guy, it seems there's someone above him pulling the strings. All in all, I'm really glad the whole "4th Hokage = AL" conspiracy theory has been squashed.

[GDB]

Though I must say, AL looks ridiculously similar to Naruto. You know that's going to spring a LOT of new theories up.

What nation is that headband from? Looks kind of like the Mist, but not quite.

[DarkNataku]

Yeah the headband is weird 4 lines and then the line across from it.

[GDB]

Well the line in the middle is because he's a rogue ninja. All members of Akatsuki that still wear their original village's headband have a slash through it.

[wyrd]

You know, I'm pretty sure now the conspiracy theory will be "shadowy figure must be the fourth hokage!!!"

[Big Shot]

I first thought he was from the same village as Hidan, but the headbands are slightly different.

[DarkNataku]

Hidan's are 3 lines and a bit slanted. What is up with AL's eyes though 3 rings, maybe the rumor of AL being Madara Uchiha will die.

[max_powers]

its da Rain Village. We don't know much about them, except the group that went into the Forest used needles in their umbrellas, and got pwned by Gaara.

[Cow]

Don't forget his hair is red.

[DarkNataku]

its da Rain Village. We don't know much about them, except the group that went into the Forest used needles in their umbrellas, and got pwned by Gaara.

His right it is Rain headband.

[Dark_Knight]

Yep. Rain headband... although I think he does still look a bit like Yondaime.

[Big Shot]

some people will never let go, lol.

You guys are right about the rain village sign. Also, is that a piercing under Akatsuki girl's lip? If so, she has just become my favorite.

[u_nick]

The more I look at it, the more he looks LESS like the 4th, and a lot more like Naruto. Like a future Naruto or something. Yeah, 4th & Naruto look similar, but looking closely, they ARE differences. This guy looks almost EXACTLY like Naruto... very strange...

[DarkNataku]

First Karin with the lip piercing and now her. Totally hot.

[MightyDustLoop]

Maybe it's Naruto's real dad. It'd make for at least a little good drama if it turned out Naruto wasn't actually born a Leaf Ninja.

[Atherakhia]

Naruto... I am your father...

....NOOOOoooooooooooooo.......

Just no :)

[Aya Nakamura]

yay woo hoo maybe now the hokage/akatsuki leader connections will be stopped:teehee:

[dimithri]

actually the might 4th might be the one who is pulling the strings. Like the CEO of the Akatsuki.

[DarkNataku]

The raw is out. Well everyone did see the explosion. Even Zetsu was even there. Itachi and Kisame are back at the base and they are getting a message from Zetsu and the AL. Suigetsu uses somekind of summon or he transports himself to Sasuke's location. It appears Sasuke summoned Manda to save him and Manda took most of the damage. Rest of Snake shows up to check on there leader.

[max_powers]

lol, Manda's gonna be PISSED!

[ffl]

Manda's dead...:| although he was pissed before he died. That Akatsuki leader... no respect for Tobi/Obito.

[DarkNataku]

What they killed the snake? It kinda looked like that in the scan but i have yet to find a translated version.

[ffl]

Suigetsu said that Manda died. It's his observation though, so that at least leaves the possibility that he's wrong... but we'll see once the Konoha ninjas get there and scout it out.

[Nomnomnom]

Nf's got a translation out.

[Big Shot]

Holy sh*t!!!!!!

I really thought that Manda would last much longer, and his death would be give much more coverage than that. Hey guys, I know I like to make fun of the Naruto CTers in here, but I'm getting pretty curious about the unidentified character giving orders to AL, lol.

[Nomnomnom]

From the look of them they didn't have a left arm and they're personality ddin't seem like someone we've met thus far.

I liked the fact that everyone was bickering over tobi's worth and D's death.

[ffl]

Holy sh*t!!!!!!

I really thought that Manda would last much longer, and his death would be give much more coverage than that. Hey guys, I know I like to make fun of the Naruto CTers in here, but I'm getting pretty curious about the unidentified character giving orders to AL, lol.

What are Naruto CTers?

Until the Japanese raw is out and an accurate translation available, that guy can't really be identified too well based on his dialogue. It didn't seem like he was giving orders, but more like he was informing the Leader of what should be done. It is possible that he's higher on the chain of command than the Leader, but it's just not clear at the moment.

[DarkNataku]

Seems that Kisame will miss Tobi if he is really gone, lol and Itachi did not looked so happy when he heard that Sasuke was dead. So what kind of scroll did Suigetsu used? It looks like a summoning but he poured something from a bottle.

The way i saw it would be Manda and Gamabunta in a battle with Gamabunta cutting Manda's head off. And it looks like Manda was put under a genjutsu to help Sasuke out but it's still hard to tell if his dead or just knocked out. More likely dead and Naruto and Co. will find the corpse. According to Suigetsu, Sasuke went inside Manda and used a space jutsu to fly into a different space.

Pain is the name of the AL, well at least it fits with his appearance. To me it feels as if Akatsuki is only a small team in a bigger Organization. It doesn't look good for Naruto and maybe another Uchiha will be asked to join Akatsuki or take his brother's place.

[ffl]

That translation isn't the most accurate one. Sasuke just went back to whatever place it is that giant summoned creatures come from. Suigetsu just summoned him back. I'm guessing that the stuff in that bottle was probably blood. Sasuke's, most likely.

[Big Shot]

What are Naruto CTers?

CTer = conspiracy theorists

[A1pha]

may i ask if posting spoiler images are allowed here? :3

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aside from that, isn't chapter 363 about how saske escapes the suicide bomb of deidara-san?

[Big Shot]

First of all, welcome, spoiler images are usually allowed on "spoiler" threads, so yes; however, the raw and some LQ scans of the chap are out already, so it's not necessary to do so right now.

[Jinto117]

The secret person talking to the Akatsuki leader is none other then Uchiha Madara!

[Aya Nakamura]

I cant accept Tobi being dead. Theres still so many unanswered questions so many conspiracies not resolved like is he or isnt he Obito? I NEED ANSWERS:eww: :'(

[Big Shot]

He's not dead, I refuse to accept it till I see the corpse.

[kt-san]

Great chapter. The death of Deidara, wondering if Tobi is dead, Sasuke doing something else that is unheard of to elude death, a bit more info about AL BKA Pain, and someone being revealed that is operating over Akatsuki. A lot of information in that chapter. Now I wonder who will Naruto and co. encounter....a dead snake, some of Sasuke's gang to slow them down allowing Sasuke to escape, or Tobi?

[MightyDustLoop]

The secret person talking to the Akatsuki leader is none other then Uchiha Madara!

It could even be an entire organization. Man, if it turns out Itachi wiped out the Uchihas just to get into contact with this guy and take him out, that's gonna be lame, but it would kinda make sense. Of course he'd need someone else to take care of the other Akatsuki who might get in the way first. Probably can't take them all at once.

[Nomnomnom]

"a man of tobi's caliber can be easily replaced" - Pain.

[Jinto117]

Who else in hear doesn't really like the fact that there is apparently another leader of Akatsuki. All this time we are led to believe that the Akatsuki leader (now revealed as "Pain") is the boss man, but all of a sudden he isn't? Someone telling the leader what to do makes me loose respect for him. I thought the Akatsuki leader was uber pwnage but he's loosing credibility now. There is always a possibility that the dude telling the leader what to do is Danzou, people seem to forget about him.

[Gaara88]

Who is this Madara ive heard about? (I mostly stick to the anime lol).

I wouldnt mind susukes dad being alive controlling the evil organisation, would explain to me why Itachi joined and what they always spoke about behind those curtains.

[Lone Signal]

Madara might be touched upon in anime... But he's an Uchiha who's been said to have possessed/possesses an ominous chakra. No source ever went into depth of his life so he might be still among the living.

We might see AL in a fight a lot sooner than we expected, so that is definitely a plus.

[pigz4brains]

AL looks too much like Naruto to not be connected to him in some way. Either that or Kishi got lazy with the character art.

[ffl]

While the Leader does resemble Naruto... the hair color does not match. I believe there've only been two characters with that shade of yellow for their hair, and that's Naruto and Yondaime.

[gameoffreak8]

Interesting chapter. I notice AL is resemble Naruto. We will might see AL will fight sooner. Same goes to that female member.

[ffl]

Probably, since the Leader has been tasked with going after Naruto.

[appletini]

everytime i saw that explosion i thought of patrick from spongebob.. kinda ruined the awe all the characters were in

[Dan]

where are you getting these hair colors from? Or can you somehow magically see color in black and white newsprint?

This reminds me of when people though Deidara had red hair and Sasori was brown. Watch Pein have rainbow colored hair to match the rain village. But seriously, if there is a color pic somewhere, do you have a link?

[MightyDustLoop]

I'm not throwing anything out myself. So he has a different headband. He's been in the shadows the whole time and pops out and actually does look passable as the fourth. It's like Kishi threw him out there in such a way we've still little idea what to make of him.

[ffl]

where are you getting these hair colors from? Or can you somehow magically see color in black and white newsprint?

This reminds me of when people though Deidara had red hair and Sasori was brown. Watch Pein have rainbow colored hair to match the rain village. But seriously, if there is a color pic somewhere, do you have a link?

People are getting the Akatsuki hair colors from the the color cover page spread that showed all of the Akatsuki in color. I don't have a link, but if you keep the chapters on your hard drive, you should be able to find it.

[doghouse]

The AL doesn't seem too much older than Naruto. My guess is that they are siblings.

[Big Shot]

My feeling is that Kishi's starting to use red herrings on us.

[A1pha]

First of all, welcome, spoiler images are usually allowed on "spoiler" threads, so yes; however, the raw and some LQ scans of the chap are out already, so it's not necessary to do so right now.

thanks big shot.. to bad the spoiler image that i was supposed to post isn't a spoiler anymore.. xD its supposed to be this pic, that i managed to hijack.. of course all credits go to dannex09:

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/5018/akatsukileaderpeinbydanri9.jpg

[Dan]

where is that picture from?

Also on a side note, in the anime he usually has a pink area in his eyes, in one of the rings. So is that official or fan art? Then again, this wouldn't be the first time the anime got colors wrong, since Kakashi is supposed to have white chakra and even now his chakra is blue. (Although until that came out late in the manga so they certainly wouldn't have known but still hasn't been corrected)

Still curious to see this week's Shounen Jump cover if anyone has it.

ps his nose piercings better be magnetic or that is the most crippling piercing ever.

[ffl]

Actually, Kakashi doesn't have white chakra in the manga. The 'white chakra' came from the White Chakra blade of the White Fang. It was probably some channeling of chakra into the sword that gave it its name.

[A1pha]

hahahaha, i got that from DA although pokefreak had a prototype when the manga was able to show a glimpse of akatsuki's rank no. 1 and 2

this is it:
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8527/akatsukiwhatslefttoseebxg6.jpg


PS:

to answer your question, the previous post was fanart, i was able to get my hands on an official pic of pain 2 days before the release of 363 but i can't find it anymore.. :/

[Nomnomnom]

Is it me or does Pain look kinda young, like he's around naruto's age or something From the way it sounded the girl akatasuki could be Pain's keeper even though he's the leader. Douzo would be a total let down.

[ffl]

Pain looks older to me. He seemed to be around Kakashi's age. The blue-haired Akatsuki seemed more like she's Pain's... counterpart, rather than a keeper.

[A1pha]

no actually, the girl isn't the leader, if you look at it closely both Pain and the Girl were talking to someone, but to honestly say i think the one thats ordering them is Sai's commanding officer(theory).. and no i think Pain is around the 4th Hokage's age and considering he is from the same clan as Hidan, there's a possibility that Pain "is" immortal, but i could be wrong.. :D

[Nomnomnom]

Could Pain's jutsu's possibly have something to do with his piercings also what's with the mark on his left arm? Is body tattooing a rain village thing?

[A1pha]

maybe, they might show his capabilities 2 issues from now, its really hard to say...

[appletini]

pain is a bad name

[A1pha]

it spelt "Pein" in the manga and here its pronounced as "Pain" its kinda confusing.. @_@

[DarkNataku]

As long as he doesn't use does stupid umbrellas for attacks. Some water/thunder abilities would be nice. I think the woman he was with is more like an assistant to remind him to stay on track or they are lovers.

About the tattoo maybe its a summon or maybe its just tattoo.

[Dan]

Actually, Kakashi doesn't have white chakra in the manga. The 'white chakra' came from the White Chakra blade of the White Fang. It was probably some channeling of chakra into the sword that gave it its name.

correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Chiyo remark about his white chakra when she first mistakens him for his father? I don't think thats it, either. somewhere around there, maybe in the Gaiden, I'm almost positive they mention him specifically.

it spelt "Pein" in the manga and here its pronounced as "Pain" its kinda confusing.. @_@

To be safe, I'm sticking with Pein in the meantime. People like to claim how stuff is pronounced, and granted the Japanese (which would be pay-een) is close to "pain" (pen with an accent above the e) but it could still be
1) a nickname
2) pronounced differently or
3) an abbreviation


After all, Tobi could be pronounced as in the Japanese "to fly" or "to jump" or as in the Roots "your name is TOBY!" sense. No one knows. Wait, I've got it! Tobi is Levar Burton!

[DarkNataku]

I want to know why it is the Pein and Zetsu lied to Itachi about his brother being dead. They might be looking for new members and Sasuke is strong now and will surpass his brother soon. But if the guy that Pein and the woman where talking to turns out to be Danzo then why send Sai to kill Sasuke unless Sai was just a measuring stick to test Sasuke.

[Dan]

I want to know why it is the Pein and Zetsu lied to Itachi about his brother being dead. They might be looking for new members and Sasuke is strong now and will surpass his brother soon. But if the guy that Pein and the woman where talking to turns out to be Danzo then why send Sai to kill Sasuke unless Sai was just a measuring stick to test Sasuke.

well, I got the impression Zetsu either didn't know, or as far as he could tell, Sasuke was dead. After all, its not easy to track someone leaving space. Someone that close to the blast probably wouldn't leave remains, either.

If they are lying, and since at least Pein seems to know Sasuke is alive then you're probably right that they want to enlist Sasuke, and may very well do so by allowing him access to Itachi.

[A1pha]

i agree with dan, Zetsu could'nt be able to tell from an explosion like that.

but conserning the abilities of Pein's partner, most likely she's an advance medical ninja but i could be wrong. Since almost all the akatsuki members have an expertise in a certain area they lack a medical-nin to finish the equation.

[GDB]

Wasn't Kakuzo (sp?) a medical ninja, or did he just sew people's limbs back on?

[Dan]

Wasn't Kakuzo (sp?) a medical ninja, or did he just sew people's limbs back on?

I guess he was a medical ninja in a sense, but he breifly explained that he was more interested in prolonging life with frankenstein-esque body mods. It seems he pretty much just made sure everyone was put back together.

oh and its Kakuzu, fyi

[Jack_Bauer]

Sasuke may have grown stronger..but I really dont think he is in Itachi's level just yet. Even though the Akatsuki delegates say so. Or maybe its the Itachi fan in me thats thinking it. Sasuke still lacks a lot of things that makes Itachi the Shinobi that he is and we still have not seen what Itachi is truly capable of. We've only seen him fight a few times and one of the fight wasnt even him and it gave Kakashi and Naruto a hard time. But just because Itachi is not a main character, it looks like the favor will turn in Sasuke's favor... to me he will always be that whiny, annoying little brother that compares himself to his far superior and older brother... my 2 cents..

[A1pha]

Wasn't Kakuzo (sp?) a medical ninja, or did he just sew people's limbs back on?

no i think Kakuzu was more of an offensive-nin then a medical-nin, usually medical ninja's have no offensive, except for super strength(ex: Godaime, Sakura). And Dan also explains the other point.. ^_^

[GDB]

Kabuto is a medical ninja, and he seems to have a nice little array of offensive techniques. Granted, they're no Rasengan/Chidori, but making your opponent move oddly (like Tsunade did to Kaubto), using a chakra scalpel, etc seems rather potent.

[Aya Nakamura]

I'm in so much anticipation of what the blue haired akatsuki's name and abilities are to be kinda like the 2nd in command technically by the line up she must be pretty strong i mean shes partnered with the leader

[ffl]

correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Chiyo remark about his white chakra when she first mistakens him for his father? I don't think thats it, either. somewhere around there, maybe in the Gaiden, I'm almost positive they mention him specifically.

She only says that he looked like the White Fang. That was her reason for attacking him in the first place.

In regards to that mysterious hidden figure that was able to gauge Sasuke's Sharingan... I thought he was Tobi at first. Tobi was the only one we saw that was close enough to even get an idea of how Sasuke's Sharingan was being used, other than Deidara. As others have said, Zetsu wasn't lying because he couldn't see things too clearly through that explosion.

[A1pha]

Kabuto is a medical ninja, and he seems to have a nice little array of offensive techniques. Granted, they're no Rasengan/Chidori, but making your opponent move oddly (like Tsunade did to Kaubto), using a chakra scalpel, etc seems rather potent.


if i'm not mistaken kabuto used a medical jutsu that could be used offensively and/or defensively.. and Kakuzu's offensive skill's aren't really medical... :naughty:

unless you call his sowing heads and arms back medical..

[Jinto117]

where are you getting these hair colors from? Or can you somehow magically see color in black and white newsprint?

This reminds me of when people though Deidara had red hair and Sasori was brown. Watch Pein have rainbow colored hair to match the rain village. But seriously, if there is a color pic somewhere, do you have a link?

This should help. I believe it is "official" except for the fact that it has been modified a bit, such as the background and stuff. But for the most part I think the character coloring has remained untouched.

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/5695/minitokyoanimewallpaperjv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot at 2007-07-24

[A1pha]

hmm... if i'm not mistaken, that was released before, and i think what Dan wanted to see was the official drawing of the face of Pein.. ;)

[Dan]

that still is interesting, though, so thanks. One thing I really want to do now though is go back to that first time they were all in that cave and compare their silohuettes. Wasn't someone hanging from the ceiling then? What was up with that?

[DarkNataku]

OK let say Tobi was told to watch the fight closely and then report back. Well i kinda understand why telling Itachi and Kisame that all 3 died, no one wants to know or be used as guinea pigs. But Pein felt it was such a waste that Deidara had to die in the end.

[A1pha]

that still is interesting, though, so thanks. One thing I really want to do now though is go back to that first time they were all in that cave and compare their silohuettes. Wasn't someone hanging from the ceiling then? What was up with that?


i think you were reffering to the 2 tails or gaara ready to get their jinchuruki(not sure with the spelling) sucked out from them..

[DarkNataku]

Well Gaara was kinda floating and Yugito Nii was pin to the wall and we are told she is dead. We never see the 2 tails being extracted. At least that is the way i remember.

[A1pha]

oOps my bad, but i really think what Dan ment was Gaara ready to get his jinchuruki taken..

[Nomnomnom]

OK let say Tobi was told to watch the fight closely and then report back. Well i kinda understand why telling Itachi and Kisame that all 3 died, no one wants to know or be used as guinea pigs. But Pein felt it was such a waste that Deidara had to die in the end.

Zetsu's already the teller of tales though, why would pein use tobi?

[A1pha]

well, tobi never demonstrated his true potential, all he actually ever did was either obey deidara or use deidara's bombs, oh and run away when he thinks he can't take on an enemy.. and i still don't think orochimaru and tobi are out of the equation just yet, i think they still have one more thing to do before they really disappear from the naruto story..^_^

[Cow]

On the Naruto image thread I posted the real pic.

[Mint Arden]

Sweet... body mod ninja. XD

[Dan]

i think you were reffering to the 2 tails or gaara ready to get their jinchuruki(not sure with the spelling) sucked out from them..

no, no WAY before that. Like near when we first heard what Akatsuki was. There were all of these shadowy figures in a cave, and I think they were more exaggerated then. Like Sasori was huge, and I actually think it was Deidara hanging from the ceiling, but it makes no sense why.

and i still don't think orochimaru and tobi are out of the equation just yet, i

Me either, in fact I still support that Orochimaru is the 8 tails. His name/legacy is a huge factor for this, but we'll see. As for Tobi, who knows if he's up to anything.

[Dan]

On the Naruto image thread I posted the real pic.

hey, I checked your posts and couldn't find it, little help?

[ffl]

no, no WAY before that. Like near when we first heard what Akatsuki was. There were all of these shadowy figures in a cave, and I think they were more exaggerated then. Like Sasori was huge, and I actually think it was Deidara hanging from the ceiling, but it makes no sense why.

That was before Kishimoto had a definite idea of each member and how things would turn out. Having the shadowy figures allowed him room to change ideas around, while also leaving the viewers in suspense.

If you're looking for a story-reason for the difference between shadows and actual members though, it was mentioned that Hidan was the newest member next to Tobi. Kakuzu was easily angered and killed many of his partners, which could explain why some of the silhouettes we saw at an earlier time may no longer be there.

[Dan]

That was before Kishimoto had a definite idea of each member and how things would turn out. Having the shadowy figures allowed him room to change ideas around, while also leaving the viewers in suspense.

If you're looking for a story-reason for the difference between shadows and actual members though, it was mentioned that Hidan was the newest member next to Tobi. Kakuzu was easily angered and killed many of his partners, which could explain why some of the silhouettes we saw at an earlier time may no longer be there.

sure, of course, but I still want to see what I can compare

[DarkNataku]

Zetsu's already the teller of tales though, why would pein use tobi?

I was answering to what he wrote.
She only says that he looked like the White Fang. That was her reason for attacking him in the first place.

In regards to that mysterious hidden figure that was able to gauge Sasuke's Sharingan... I thought he was Tobi at first. Tobi was the only one we saw that was close enough to even get an idea of how Sasuke's Sharingan was being used, other than Deidara. As others have said, Zetsu wasn't lying because he couldn't see things too clearly through that explosion.

[ffl]

While that new figure may not be Tobi, his lower body does seem similar. Also, logically, Tobi's the only one who could've even seen Sasuke's Sharingan in action against Deidara, thus he's the only one who could report about it.

If the actual leader is Tobi... that would throw some things off.

As for comparing, that figure that's hanging upside down is Deidara, since he says the usual "Hmm/Yeah" after each of his statements. I believe you can easily make out Kisame, Itachi, and Zetsu. I think Sasori might be visible in the back too, but I'm not entirely certain about that. There's the big shadow, which may be a dead or former Akatsuki member. Then there are some moderate sized shadows that could be anyone else.

[Dan]

do you know what chapter its from?

[ffl]

Some chapter between 236 and 245.

[wyrd]

Was thinking tobi would be the leader too but somehow I think that would be too obvious, no? Weirdo with unknown powers "dies", real leader shows up with first-hand account of sasuke's ability, therefore weirdo with unknown powers = true leader.

Then again maybe Kishimoto's just playing a trick on us and that's all there really is to the mystery of the leader's identity.

P.S. Just read the early news of ch364, if it's correct and the pictures' not photoshopped... whoa.

[Dan]

P.S. Just read the early news of ch364, if it's correct and the pictures' not photoshopped... whoa.

oooohhhh, dont say any thing, Im excited!

ps does anyone know where to reliably get Japanese (specifically not chinese) raws? Because I can read Japanese, but it bugs me when I see "Naruto manga RAW" and its in freaking chinese all the time.

[A1pha]

Was thinking tobi would be the leader too but somehow I think that would be too obvious, no? Weirdo with unknown powers "dies", real leader shows up with first-hand account of sasuke's ability, therefore weirdo with unknown powers = true leader.



yeah there's a possibility but i still think it was Sai's Commanding officer.(forgot his name, need to read the manga again.. xD) But i'm against the idea that tobi is the true leader, because why would he(tobi) go undercover to only be under Deidara's harsh apprenticeship.

[DarkNataku]

yeah there's a possibility but i still think it was Sai's Commanding officer.(forgot his name, need to read the manga again.. xD) But i'm against the idea that tobi is the true leader, because why would he(tobi) go undercover to only be under Deidara's harsh apprenticeship.


His name is Danzo and i don't think that Tobi is the true leader. If that scan is true then it was obvious who he really was for a while. But then it might turn out to be another person and it be a total mind f@*#.

[ffl]

Hey people, 364 spoilers in the appropriate thread please. Early spoilers make me sad.:(

[Aya Nakamura]

I still believe that the shadowy figure is kinda like a client of the akatsuki because if he was in fact the "true" leader he wouldnt have referred to Pein as the leader. As for it being Danzo<_< I dunno could be, he is a shaddy character and it would be one of the less outlandish theories out there. But then again as it was with the leader theories the shadowy figure could turn out to be a completely new character with no connection to them. As for Tobi him as the true leader-_-; i dont think so. Although i must admit i have found myself believing his other conspiracy theories which i'll admit seem really possible

[Nomnomnom]

Danzo would need a lot of money to be able to buy the akatsuki's services. Ironically there cost most likely goes down as they die off.

[DarkNataku]

Being S-rank and being killed off by kids doesn't look good.