Final Fantasy 4 3-d remake on DS

[crow-kun]

http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/173404900920070509143020.jpg

[J Dude]

I can't really say that we needed all these remakes of the same games and etc, but hey... I loved Final Fantasy IV and even though I just played FFIV Advance somewhere over a year ago, I wouldn't mind checking out this 3D remake of FFIV for the DS.

[cris]

i just want to know how much mor ethey added with the added story

[Danju]

I can't really say that we needed all these remakes of the same games and etc, but hey... I loved Final Fantasy IV and even though I just played FFIV Advance somewhere over a year ago, I wouldn't mind checking out this 3D remake of FFIV for the DS.
My thoughts are basically the same.

[Noi]

I can't really say that we needed all these remakes of the same games and etc, but hey... I loved Final Fantasy IV and even though I just played FFIV Advance somewhere over a year ago, I wouldn't mind checking out this 3D remake of FFIV for the DS.

I also do not get the idea of Square-Enix of releasing remakes of games that were released more than a decade ago or even a sequel of Final Fantasy XII ("Final Fantasy XII: Reverent Wings"), unless it is a way for the developer to repair relationships between it and Nintendo.

[cris]

Well it is only pretty recent that Nintendo and Square(soft) became "friends" of fixed misunderstandings or w/e...forgot what exactly it was but i think it was like 2-3 years ago =-/

[J Dude]

I also do not get the idea of Square-Enix of releasing remakes of games that were released more than a decade ago or even a sequel of Final Fantasy XII ("Final Fantasy XII: Reverent Wings"), unless it is a way for the developer to repair relationships between it and Nintendo.

I don't really get the idea of why they're making a 3D remake of IV when they just released FFIV Advance back in 2005. If this pattern continues, then we can expect to see 3D remakes of FFV and FFVI as well for the DS, though those also just came out recently for the GBA as FFV and FFVI Advance. I just don't really see any point to it other than Square-Enix trying to make some more money, but as long as the games are enjoyable, I'll play them. I'm just failing to see the point of remaking the same game again and again.

[cris]

just don't really see any point to it other than Square-Enix trying to make some more money

That's what they always do, even if it isn't remake/ports/reports. As a business that's what they intend to do

[Danju]

That's what they always do, even if it isn't remake/ports/reports. As a business that's what they intend to do
Indeed. The only remake I can say I'd really look forward to is FF6, though.

[Sushikins]

While a bit irked at another remake, I greatly enjoyed Final Fantasy IV, so I gladly get this.

[akutenshi00]

I would hope they'd spend more effort on FF6, since I can already tell they put no effort into the background design for 4. Maybe it's still a good game, but it just looks ugly to me.

[crow-kun]

That's what they always do, even if it isn't remake/ports/reports. As a business that's what they intend to doRight they did say that their current business strategy was make ports/remake of old square games.

[cris]

No effort? It looks like FFIII quality to me

[cris]

Right they did say that their current business strategy was make ports/remake of old square games.

Yeah, makes me wonder if they are ever going to release anything to the Virtual Console, even if they are partnered up =-/

[akutenshi00]

I think seeing 3d models on that kind of background doesn't look right. It's maybe just me, but it bothers me.

[Danju]

I think seeing 3d models on that kind of background doesn't look right. It's maybe just me, but it bothers me.
It's not really that that bothers me. What bothers me is how tall the model is. Doesn't look right to me at all. Battles look nice, though.

[cris]

personally I think it looks like FFIII(DS) and other DS games as well in 3D (in terms of graphical quality)

[Danju]

personally I think it looks like FFIII(DS) and other DS games as well in 3D (in terms of graphical quality)
The quality is fine it's just the style that I don't really like. Then again we haven't seen it in action so I'll reserve my final judgment.

[cris]

Have you tried or seen Final Fantasy III(DS)? It's going to look like that since the same team is working on it.

[Danju]

Have you tried or seen Final Fantasy III(DS)? It's going to look like that since the same team is working on it.
Yeah, I own FFIII DS. The model just looks taller and I don't like it. The battle looks identical, though, and I like.

[RPGQueen]

wow that looks really good. now if only they would remake VI and VII.

[Jon]

Looks good, but I really hated FFIV.

[Sendo Takeshi]

It looks good. I love that people are complaining about Square milking the franchise, though. Seriously, it's not the first time this has happened. Remakes and re-releases are rampant in the video game industry. Especially when it comes to Capcom.

[Ikari Warrior]

No effort? It looks like FFIII quality to me

The graphics actually look better than FF3. If they're all consistently that good and stylish, this just might be another one I'll pick up.

[soulreaper]

Nice, I just misplaced my FFVIA. Now I won't even bother looking for it.

[CrossboneGundam]

Tiny feet are tiiiiiny.

[MightyDustLoop]

Something that somewhat disturbs me is the artwork for the Final Fantasy remakes made the male characters look, well, effeminate.


Yeah you don't want to look at the concept drawings for the originals either then.

[Nash]

I would kill 100s of babies just to be able to play this for a second.

[Yukito Kunisaki]

I don't like the 3d at all. Also, if they are going to remake the classics, they should do it after at least 3-5 years from the last remake they made of that game and add more into it, not jsut that game (Like compiling FF1-6 all together would be nice).

Also, if they would make a compiling of DQ1-7, that would make my day, and maybe even year.

[Zeta26]

Well, does being "different" have to be that bad? Because Square Enix want's the game to bring their classic games to today's game systems. Like with the D.S and PSP.

Personally though, I really like what Square Enix is doing to FFIV on the D.S. Which they're also gonna add voice acting. Which's never been heard due to the graphical limits of the past game systems.

[Solid_Snake]

Wait... Did we ever get a remake of the first two titles?

[J Dude]

Wait... Did we ever get a remake of the first two titles?

Yes we did, though not 3D remakes. They remade FFI & II for the PS1 as FF Origins years ago and then they released GBA ports of both games known as Dawn of Souls with some slight changes and a few additions to the games.

[throughhim413]

Plus the fact that they'll be remade again for the PSP pretty soon here. Still not 3D though, and I'm not sure what makes them any different this time besides another graphical upgrade.

[Lemina]

Final Fantasy IV is one of my favorite games of all time. I loved playing the original when it came out for the Playstation as part of Final Fantasy Chronicles. I sure wouldn't mind revisiting this fantastic game in full 3D!! I just hope it doesn't lose the charm the original game had. It would definitely be a DS game worth owning!!

EDIT: The boss music in the original FFIV was definitely great. I love it myself. The Nintendo DS has great sound capabilities, but I have a feeling it isn't going to be as great because they are sure to alter it. I hope this release doesn't disappoint and it becomes a respectable remake with some great boss music.

[J Dude]

Final Fantasy IV is one of my favorite games of all time.

Likewise. I've had so many great childhood memories of playing it on the SNES when I was a kid. Not to mention I did play and beat it when it was re-released on Final Fantasy Chronicles and I just recently played FFIV Advance about a year ago. I'm sure I've beaten it several times in my lifetime now. Like you before me, I'm hoping a lot of good comes from this, though I'm afraid the DS remake just might not have the charm that the SNES/PS1/GBA versions had. I'll be interested to hear what the music will sound like on the DS remake. I absolutely adore the music in Final Fantasy IV and it has to be one of my favorite Final Fantasy soundtracks ever. The boss music is just extreme. :thumbsup:

[Nash]

The DS game is going to have 3xs as much solid gameplay then the original game had.

There was an interview saying that Final Fantasy 4 had 3/4 of the original story cut out from the game. Maybe because of the whole catridge thing, but yeah.....

new stuff in a game we all already know and love


= sex

[Hajime Saitou]

There was an interview saying that Final Fantasy 4 had 3/4 of the original story cut out from the game.

Link and GTFO.

I'm going to call bull on this one. Not on you mentioning it, but on them telling the truth. I really hope I'm wrong, and this isn't just a thinly veiled attempt to add in a bunch of new crap that will significantly change the game.

[metal_slime1022]

cant wait its probly gonna be better than iii

[Nash]

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_IV

Read the DS part down below.

and you can gtfo~

=P

[Hajime Saitou]

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_IV

Nooooooooooo /vader

At least it comes from the guy who did the original story.

and you can gtfo~

=P

Way ahead of you. I found a rock to crawl under and everything.

[Eva Unit 01]

ohh man hell no we need ps2 remakes

[ryushe]

DO WANT!!!!!111!!!!!! (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/25846.html)

Ahhhhhh shiznit, It has voice acting to.....

Damn you Square...Damn you.

[Talon]

So is this the "everything is a 3D remake for the DS" era of Square? They're even remaking the Dragon Quest series for the DS now if I'm not mistaken.

[Nash]

The trailer of the game is amazing.

Those graphics are nuts!

I'm in love all over again.

[Liquid Sunshine]

I'm wondering whether there are legal issues of porting FF7 for the DS, its the first final fantasy game I'd want to be ported that hasn't made it to a nintendo console so far.

[J Dude]

I'm wondering whether there are legal issues of porting FF7 for the DS, its the first final fantasy game I'd want to be ported that hasn't made it to a nintendo console so far.

I don't think they could fit three discs worth of data on to one DS cartridge, unless you would want an extremely dumbed down port of Final Fantasy VII, which I wouldn't.

[Liquid Sunshine]

I don't think they could fit three discs worth of data on to one DS cartridge, unless you would want an extremely dumbed down port of Final Fantasy VII, which I wouldn't.

mmmm yeh I would, because I never fully got the chance to complete that game.

[Nash]

They have pics of Edge and Edward now.

er, well....or rather Gilbert maybe?

I'd rather they keep him Edward anyways.

also Cain looks so wrong, Kain..with a K. That's how the lord intended it.

[sfried]

I don't think they could fit three discs worth of data on to one DS cartridge, unless you would want an extremely dumbed down port of Final Fantasy VII, which I wouldn't.

That's pretty dumb logic right there. Nintendo DS has a smaller resolution, and most of the data in FFVII was FMV. Nowdays, compression can shrink all that data to about 1/5 the size with no noticable loss in quality. Besides, look at Resident Evil 2 for N64, fitting two disks worth of video into one cartridge.

To be honest, if they ported FFVII to DS, why can't they just remake it la FF3? Polygons use up much less data than huge prerendered backgrounds. Even FF:CC Crystal Bearers shows that DS is pretty good even at displaying realtime effects.

But even if they do stick to just a plain port (pre-rendered backgrounds/FMV intact), I don't see Square having any problems. I think it's mainly because of the fanbase and their association with it and Sony.

[J Dude]

That's pretty dumb logic right there. Nintendo DS has a smaller resolution, and most of the data in FFVII was FMV. Nowdays, compression can shrink all that data to about 1/5 the size with no noticable loss in quality. Besides, look at Resident Evil 2 for N64, fitting two disks worth of video into one cartridge.

To be honest, if they ported FFVII to DS, why can't they just remake it la FF3? Polygons use up much less data than huge prerendered backgrounds. Even FF:CC Crystal Bearers shows that DS is pretty good even at displaying realtime effects.

But even if they do stick to just a plain port (pre-rendered backgrounds/FMV intact), I don't see Square having any problems. I think it's mainly because of the fanbase and their association with it and Sony.

This is what I get for not knowing the details I guess, so yes, my logic is dumb.

[Noi]

That's pretty dumb logic right there. Nintendo DS has a smaller resolution, and most of the data in FFVII was FMV. Nowdays, compression can shrink all that data to about 1/5 the size with no noticable loss in quality. Besides, look at Resident Evil 2 for N64, fitting two disks worth of video into one cartridge.

To be honest, if they ported FFVII to DS, why can't they just remake it la FF3? Polygons use up much less data than huge prerendered backgrounds. Even FF:CC Crystal Bearers shows that DS is pretty good even at displaying realtime effects.

I am quite skeptical and I need reliable sources regarding compression and polygons using less data than pre-rendered backgrounds.

If current compression can reduce a CD-based video game to about 1/5 of its size, then is it possible to port every PlayStation, Sega Saturn, or Sega Dreamcast game to the DS or to the Wii's Virtual Console?

[sfried]

If current compression can reduce a CD-based video game to about 1/5 of its size, then is it possible to port every PlayStation, Sega Saturn, or Sega Dreamcast game to the DS or to the Wii's Virtual Console?
They're already doing it with Turbo Grafx/PC-Engine Super CD games on the VC, so I don't see why not.

It's just willpower.

[RPGQueen]

looks god but I would prefer a remake of VI and VII on the PS3.

[sfried]

looks god but I would prefer a remake of VI and VII on the PS3.

Bah, better if it were on Wii...

[Nash]

better yet on the Virtual boy.

[MightyDustLoop]

better yet on the Virtual boy.

lol, might as well be if it were Wii. The only thing Square can do consistently anymore is production values. If they did PS3 incarnations they can keep the gameplay the exact same for all anybody cares, do what they do with the graphics, and be heralded for it.


I would love to see a reversion FFVII one day. Scaled down to SNES style graphics for a DS variation would also be cool. But that'll never happen. I'm more into that style myself, but FFIV was my fav, the one that started it all for me, so I'll be checking out this 3-D variation no doubt.

[sfried]

I would love to see a reversion FFVII one day. Scaled down to SNES style graphics for a DS variation would also be cool. But that'll never happen. I'm more into that style myself, but FFIV was my fav, the one that started it all for me, so I'll be checking out this 3-D variation no doubt.

You know, that wouldn't be such a bad idea. It would be the prettiest 16-bit sprites in a game, plus the smoothest attack animations for it.

[MightyDustLoop]

You know, that wouldn't be such a bad idea. It would be the prettiest 16-bit sprites in a game, plus the smoothest attack animations for it.

No doubt. It'd be awesome. Chrono Trigger is still the pinnacle of the whole style because Square abandoned it. Their attitude towards 2-D is really reminiscent of Sony and only do remakes at best anymore. Their rehashing old ones in odd 3-D styles of all things.

Well, at least we got Nippon Ichi if nothing else. Though there games are almost all so hardcore I can't even get into em. And a remake of my favorite FF, even if in 3-D, is most certainly a welcome addition. If I don't like it I'll simply stop playing, but the potential nostalgia is too good to pass up. Here's hoping FFVI gets one on a system with a bit more graphical power (no offense DS).

[Lemina]

In case some of you don't know. Final Fantasy IV will be released for the DS on December 20, 2007. I'm really looking forward to it myself. It would be a great game to replay again. Hopefully it would be worthy enough to give up my FFIV Advance for it. I just hope they keep most of the original music from the original game.

As far as Final Fantasy VII is concerned, SquareSoft (at the time) originally jumped to the Playstation platform and decided to leave Nintendo after so long releasing that game exclusively for the Playstation at the time. Now that SquareEnix is making games for Nintendo platforms again, I don't see how they can't do a FFVII with the success of the Nintendo DS. I'm sure the DS card will have enough memory to handle the whole game; at least without the CG graphics.

[Keroberos]

Lemina,

I would have to agree. I would love to see them come out with FFVII for the DS. It was definetly my first FF game and not only that it was the first Video game I was ever able to play and win at. Although the PS version was nice and I know the DS version will have less animation in it, I believe the story was exceptional in that game. I never really been into the other FF games but I would definetly have to say the FFVII was awesome.

:dance: :dance: :dance:

[Nash]

Lemina

US release is December 20th? Or is that the Jap-o release?

[Lemina]

Oh thats right, I forgot the mention that the game was going to be released in Japan on that date. There has been no announcement for US release as of yet, but I'm sure it will considering the popularity of the series. Final Fantasy III DS has already been out since last year. It's also worth mentioning that Nintendo DS games are region free, so if you pick up the Japanese release of FFIV, you'll still be able to play it. Either that, or you'll have to wait until it gets released in the US. I'm sure it will be released by around early next year considering FFIII came out in the US 3 months after the Japanese version came out. Keep on eye on their official (http://www.square-enix.com/na/index_f2.html) website.

[Nash]

*cough*

So, my friend imported this game the other day...

which made me rush over to his house to take a gander.

Two word. Simply. Amazing.

I never knew you could fall in love all over again with something you never lost love for, but if there ever was a case, this is it.

The game is beautiful, and even though I can't understand the dialog, I have played the game hundreds of times and remember ever nook and cranny of the original. I assume that will be able to guide me though the game with minor altercations.

Oh, he also let me borrow it. So I WILL be playing this game until completion and then when the American version comes out, I'll buy that one and play it how God intended us to play it.

IN ENGLISH!

(The Jpn VA for Kain is voiced by the same guy that VA Spike from Cowboy Bebop. If only they can get David Lucas to VA Kain...lol)

[sfried]

(The Jpn VA for Kain is voiced by the same guy that VA Spike from Cowboy Bebop. If only they can get David Lucas to VA Kain...lol)
Aside from Takeshi Kaga as Goblez and Norio Wakamoto as Rubicante, any word on the US release yet? I might just have to go out and get FFIIIDS or Ring of Fates.

[J Dude]

Aside from Takeshi Kaga as Goblez and Norio Wakamoto as Rubicante, any word on the US release yet? I might just have to go out and get FFIIIDS or Ring of Fates.

According to Gamespot, it's July 2008.

[Ketaru]

According to Gamespot, it's July 2008.

That's....earlier than I would've expected. Anybody listen to the rereleased soundtrack to the game? I think it's beautiful, especially how they decided to add introductions to tracks like "Theme of Love" or "Rydia". I always thought they began a bit abrupt.

If and when VI is remade, I wonder if they'll do so for tracks like "Forever Rachel", which I think, in its current state, lacks subtlety and is overrated.

[J Dude]

Anybody listen to the rereleased soundtrack to the game?

Yea I've had the OST for a while. There are definitely some tracks that just sound great, especially when compared to the SNES originals like the FFIV Main Theme, Big Battle 2, and Battle with Golbez's Four Kings. I actually think I prefer the 16 bit original of the Red Wings music though to be honest, but the DS rendition of it is still good stuff. Though of course this is the best version of the Red Wings music in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDgEaq9qAyc

[sfried]

Yea I've had the OST for a while. There are definitely some tracks that just sound great, especially when compared to the SNES originals like the FFIV Main Theme, Big Battle 2, and Battle with Golbez's Four Kings. I actually think I prefer the 16 bit original of the Red Wings music though to be honest, but the DS rendition of it is still good stuff. Though of course this is the best version of the Red Wings music in my opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDgEaq9qAyc
From which album is that orchestrated version from?

[J Dude]

From which album is that orchestrated version from?

It's from this album.

http://www.vgmdb.net/db/albums.php?id=877

I have a MP3 of it if you want it.

[sfried]

It's official, folks.

Official Announcement (http://www.square-enix.com/na/company/press/2008/0410/)
Official Site (http://na.square-enix.com/ff4/)

July 22. $40. Mark you calendars.

[lav2k4]

It's cool that it got announced, but I still never beat the original. I rather just buy FFIV advance.

[sfried]

It's cool that it got announced, but I still never beat the original. I rather just buy FFIV advance.

FFIV Advance was sorta...buggy in some areas. FFVI Advance was a better port, and even then the ending part with Dancing Mad and the Credit sequence didn't quite sync right...

That said, yeah purists would wan to stick to Advance. Add to the fact that a whole slew of DS RPGs are coming in July, it's hard to narrow the options down.

[lav2k4]

FFIV Advance was sorta...buggy in some areas.

Well what version do you think is best to enjoy the overall experience? Both FFIV and FFVI.

[sfried]

Well what version do you think is best to enjoy the overall experience? Both FFIV and FFVI.

The UK version of FFIVAdvance had all of the bugs sorted out. I think FFVIAdvance is fine as it is, since they didn't retouch the sprites (and the loading doesn't suck like FF Anthologies).

That said, I do hear that FFIVDS has boosted difficulty (from the already hard hardtype), and the Augment system lets you commit abilities of your dead allies to your comrades. The only gripe is it doen't come with the extra dungeons the GBA version has.

[J Dude]

The only gripe is it doen't come with the extra dungeons the GBA version has.

But I'm pretty sure it does have a few new extras. Two of which I know are two new super powerful extra bosses. One being Proto Babel, which you can fight on the moon, and the other being some fusion of the Four Fiends of Elements named Geyron.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHTrmbVbUBA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWnowgxBSA0&feature=related

[Lemina]

Awesome, I'm looking forward to picking up a copy of this game. Finally after soo long!! I would definitely give up my GBA version of it for this game. The graphics look great. I'm looking forward to the new remixed music, but I also hope that it has an option to hear original music from the original FFIV game. The Nintendo DS needs more RPG's and this would be a great addition to the DS library. ^_^

[J Dude]

but I also hope that it has an option to hear original music from the original FFIV game.

I'm willing to bet that that's not gonna happen.

[sfried]

I'm willing to bet that that's not gonna happen.

From what I know, they just simply recreated the SNES version's music using the DS hardware. Sure, it won't sound exactly the same, but it's not going to sound that terribly different from the SNES iteration.

[lav2k4]

Sure, it won't sound exactly the same, but it's not going to sound that terribly different from the SNES iteration.

Some songs are better then the original, but some sound a little meh.

[J Dude]

Some songs are better then the original, but some sound a little meh.

There are definitely some that are better and some that I prefer the originals of. For example, I prefer the SNES version of The Red Wings theme and Mt Ordeals.

[ryushe]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34660.html

Even though I dislike the state SQUARE is in, I must say I likely.

[J Dude]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34660.html

Even though I dislike the state SQUARE is in, I must say I likely.

Quite glad that the English voice acting actually sounds good. I was afraid the voices were gonna stink, but I'll gladly be buying the game now once it's released stateside. Rosa's voice could have been a little better, but that's just my opinion, though only basing it off one little scene.

[sfried]

Man, I can't wait to hear what Tellah sounds like.

[sfried]

Ah yes, I finally have it!

Starting new game. Can't wait to get to Tellah.

[Sushikins]

I've just reached the Antlion's Den, will probably try and level up more before fighting it. The game is definitely more difficult, bosses hit harder, and the change to Cecil's Darkness attack makes fighting against groups a longer affair. I've been loving the cut scenes so far, the 3D is really well done, and the voice acting is solid, making it all the more enjoyable to see certain scenes (Village of Mist (http://youtube.com/watch?v=0J3MrQt6XIU)) voiced. I haven't really messed around with Rydia's new summon, Whyt, but I'll get around to that too. All-in-all, I'm finding this game highly enjoyable (It is my favorite FF and one of my favorite games in general), and this may turn out to be my favorite version of the game.

Spoony Bard...

[J Dude]

So it's safe to assume that Tellah calls Edward a spoony bard even in this version?

[Sushikins]

So it's safe to assume that Tellah calls Edward a spoony bard even in this version?

Yep, I'm pretty sure the localization crew is well aware of the popularity of that line, so I would've been highly surprised had it been changed.

Just reached Mt. Hobs, the Antlion was surprisingly easy, even easier than Octomammoth. Also, Edward is actually useful for once. The Map completion bonuses are very nice, especially if you're running low on the specific item you get. I did summon Whyt in the Antlion battle, but felled it before getting to use him.

[sfried]

So it's safe to assume that Tellah calls Edward a spoony bard even in this version?
Yes, he calls him that during a combat scene. Although I would've love to hear that part voiced.

Edward definately makes things easier with Life's Anthem.

[sfried]

I can't believe how far some people are in the game. I'm only at Troia for the moment.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Did they remove the glitches from the JP version? There's one that freezes and corrupts your game hard at one point.

[sfried]

Did they remove the glitches from the JP version? There's one that freezes and corrupts your game hard at one point.At what point does this occur?

[sfried]

I'm surprised not many people here are talking about IVDS considering its difficulty.

[Sushikins]

I'm surprised not many people here are talking about IVDS considering its difficulty.

It's a pain, to be sure. The Ice Beasts in the Tower of Zot killed me countless times, once when I was a few steps from the save room. Thankfully Barbariccia wasn't too difficult, the Magus Sisters as well.

What's really bugging me was that I started looking into the Augments and New Game+ info on GameFAQs yesterday, and realized how deep it was implemented into the game, making me consider restarting, but I'm just gonna play my first play through in a more traditional fashion without augments, I think. I had assumed that it was just a tacked on way to still be able to "use" the lost characters after they were gone, but was surprised to see just how many different Augments there were, and how they could be used and acquired throughout the game.

About to head to the Underworld, can't wait to get Rydia back, as she's my favorite character.

[sfried]

Speaking of the Four Generals (http://youtube.com/watch?v=C8vz186pjY0)...I like how you can obtain some of their moves through Augments.

[Sushikins]

Speaking of the Four Generals (http://youtube.com/watch?v=MGP0ZCMDgDA)...I like how you can obtain some of their moves through Augments.

I love that video/song, it's on my PSP, along with the SNES and DS versions of that theme.

As for the Augments, I've used a few, and did get Cagnazzo's Augment, but only gave it to Tellah. Thus far I've found the Augment Combo Draw Attack + Counter on Cecil to be exteremely effective, and I hear you can further that with the Kick Augment as well. I also gave Rydia Fast Cast and Cecil/Rose Twin Cast, but have either missed Augments or just haven't gotten them yet.

Just past the Tower of Babel and just about to enter Eblan Cave. In the past, I spent more time running through Babel than fighting, this time I did, and doing so netted me about 6-7 levels a character. Between Cecil countering every attack for 1000+ damage, and Rydia's summons doing 2000+ damage, enemies were going down quickly and easily. This game is just too easy to play and enjoy, I can't put it down (even when I was dying over and over.)

For those interested, here is a pretty cool video that compares early scenes of the Original version and the DS version, side-by-side. Final Fantasy IV Handheld Evolution (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fMwc7Aog8T8)

[sfried]

I made the mistake earlier of giving the Tsunami augment to Yang. Looks like I'll have to start over from the point where I just got Cid. Besides, I have to analyze the **** all the enemies all over the world map now because of my collectionist attitude.

[Sushikins]

Finished it this afternoon, posted my thoughts here= http://animenation.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6426310&postcount=240

I'll be starting a brand new game sometime in the future (near or otherwise), in order to fully take advantage of the depth of the Augment system, which I only realized by the half-way mark.

[J Dude]

Considering I felt like I was getting nothing out of doing New Game+ right now on Chrono Cross other than some endings, using some characters that I don't really even care about much, and getting to fight Ozzie, Flea, and Slash, I decided I'm putting doing everything on Chrono Cross on hold for a while and I started playing Final Fantasy IV DS last night. I must say it's quite an experience with it being in 3D. Right now I'm up to where I'm about to get Tellah. I'm just gaining some levels with Rydia before I move on outside of Kaipo. They weren't kidding when they said the difficulty has been increased greatly. Even goblins are hitting harder than ever. I laugh at a FAQ on Gamefaqs saying not to attempt to fight the Sand Worm in the Damcyan desert when you're first there, because it will KO you in one hit. Then how come I've been able to fend off two of them so far? :lol: Yea, they hit hard, but I can hit harder. I just use Blizzard with Rydia and have Cecil use Darkness and attack. I just heal when needed as well. It's also a bit of a pain having to train your Whyt in that math game. I was never good with math. -_-; The most I can get in one session is about 1,500 points. Does doing that raise anything else besides intellect? I'm guessing more mini-games will appear as I continue playing, to further strengthen my Whyt? Whom I renamed to Goma. If only I could have put Gomamon as his name, I would have. :lol: I gave him X X for his eyes and a stitch looking mouth. :lol:

[Sushikins]

If you get 9999 points in the Mini-Games, you unlock class outfits for Whyt, so completing Rydia's game with a 9999 score gets Whyt a summoner outfit. The best tip for the math game is the write the number down, close the DS, figure it out, and open the DS and solve the puzzle.

As for how it affects Whyt's stats, I'm not sure, I never even summoned him. With Young Rydia I mostly focused on Elemental and Bio spells, and as an Adult, I tended to spam Dragon/Leviathan/Bahamut.

[sfried]

The best tip for the math game is the write the number down, close the DS, figure it out, and open the DS and solve the puzzle.This has to be the best FFIV tip I've gotten in a while. I can't wait to get Rydia back.
I laugh at a FAQ on Gamefaqs saying not to attempt to fight the Sand Worm in the Damcyan desert when you're first there, because it will KO you in one hit. Then how come I've been able to fend off two of them so far? :lol: Yea, they hit hard, but I can hit harder. I just use Blizzard with Rydia and have Cecil use Darkness and attack.So long as you utilize your characters' abilities for most of your fights, you're fine. This is more harkin to "hard" RPGs like Etrian Odyssey, so you can't just keep selecting "Attack" in new areas.

[J Dude]

The best tip for the math game is the write the number down, close the DS, figure it out, and open the DS and solve the puzzle.

I've been doing this, but the most I can get is 5,250 points. The time it takes to open the DS back up and put in the numbers as fast as I can, it just eats up most of my time. I guess I'm just not fast enough when doing it. :(

[Lemina]

I know I'm late here but gotta say I've fulfilled my promise. I've recently purchased Final Fantasy IV for the DS. I thought it was very enjoyable. I enjoyed the original game so much, and playing this game which was completely remade in 3D has been well worth revisiting this game. The music in this was very well done too. Overall, I thought it was well worth the money I spent on it. If you're an RPG fan or just a FF fan in general, I'd recommend it to anyone who hasn't gotten in yet.

[J Dude]

So anybody here play this more than once and fight the new super bosses like Proto Babil? I'm on my first playthrough and I'm just exploring the entire Lunar Path on the way to the final boss, getting all the map completion to get the Treasure Hunter augment. Then I'll start getting the Rainbow Pudding, all the other augments, and the all the tails for the Onion equipment. I was lucky enough to have a Blue Dragon drop a Dragon Whisker for Rydia, which is her best whip. :) Only bad thing is that that weapon won't carry over to a New Game+ file will it? :(

[Nash]

FF4 DS is indeed filled with win. My copy is currently 4 hours away from me however, I haven't seen it in almost 5 months.

=(

In more happy news, they are bringing FF4 The After to the virtual console!

Yay!

[J Dude]

In more happy news, they are bringing FF4 The After to the virtual console!

Yay!

I remember reading talk about this recently, but has it been made official? In FFIV related news, I've actually acquired all the rare summons aside from Mindflayer, which I'm currently in the process of getting. Then I'm gonna start getting multiples of the tail items for the Onion equipment and Adamant Armor for my second and last playthrough of Final Fantasy IV DS where I'm planning to fight Proto-Babil. My Cecil and Rosa are at Lv 94, Edge is at Lv 93, Rydia is at Lv 92, and Kain is at Lv 91.

[Tommy-San]

I actually liked the IV Remake for the DS, however I felt it lacked popularity compared to III.

I can't wait to see a V remake, or perhaps a VI.

[J Dude]

Well I was just lucky enough to finally get a Pink Tail from fighting Flan Princesses and thus got the Adamant Armor. My Cecil is at Lv 99 and with the Crystal Mail he had 55 defense. With the Adamant Armor, his defense skyrocketed to 130, not to mention greatly boosted a lot of his other stats, plus maxed out his speed. Now to just get one of each for the four other tails. Getting every piece of rare equipment for every character is too daunting and time consuming of a task, so I'm just gonna go for the four other tails I need. Then I'll fill up the rest of my bestiary that I can, try the Kain, Rosa, and Edge Whyt mini-games, then I'll finally move on and beat my first playthrough. Then enjoy one more playthrough with New Game+ and then I'm done playing Final Fantasy IV DS. I can't wait to actually get back to playing, rather than farming for items, because it's boring as hell.