Spider-Man 3

[Depression]

First batch of reviews are in...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spiderman_3/

6 positive 1 negative

[Jon]

This movie looks awesome, can't wait until it comes out. Midnight viewing baby!

[HSaabedra]

I'll be waiting for the Japanese digital bootleg. Maybe IMAX.

[LOSTyears]

Nice to read some positives on it. Looking forward to it even more.
Still a little concerned on how their going to get through 3 villians though.

[superplough]

I have been looking forward to this for since about the time they announced it. Too bad I live in New Zealand, it's not out til May 3rd.

*looks at date* Wait, that's only a week away! *gets very excited*

[Nano]

I can't wait, it looks really good. But I'm looking forward to 28 weeks later more Depression, out May 11 ^_^ I'm sure you liked 28 days later.

[Raziel_MGS]

this movie is going to be like what Transformers may be, either completely bad *** or completely ******

[SapphireDream]

midnite viewing in IMAX is gonna be so great!

[Lita]

Does look awesome, been looking forward to it for ages.
Does anybody know how long its on for, as said before the 3 badguys in one movie seems a little too much

[Sendo Takeshi]

this movie is going to be like what Transformers may be, either completely bad *** or completely ******

Doubtful. Sam Raimi has yet to screw up. This is probably the best Spiderman we'll see in our lifetime. Unless you want to relive the horrendousness of the 70's TV show(not to be confused with the Japanese Supaidahman).

It looks really good and The Sandman looks completely awesome. And Venom translated pretty well just by looking at the pics.

Transformers on the other hand is like a kid on a wheelchair challenging me to a 100 meter dash.


THWIP! EDIT - So, when do Imax tickets go on sale? I'm trying to preorder these suckers and no dice so far. =/

Is it best to wait a few days before or what?

[Haro!]

I am going to watch it regardless of the reviews. I've liked the previous 2 movies although lots of people hated on them.

[Raziel_MGS]

i thought they were good movies, i mean they werent like the comics but the movies really cant be, but i am sad that there is no lizardman

[Samurai Drifter]

"Given the setup, Spider-Man in the end has to contend with multiple villains in a gigantic action climax..."

Sounds awesome, and that's from the negative review.

[Vaikyuko]

I am a loser and a nerd, and thusly picked up the novelization.

In a nutshell, Harry doesn't suck as much anymore, Sandman is pretty much the weakest villain, plotwise (he doesn't really have anything to do with Spider-Man, it's more like he just randomly got in his way). Most of the novel is pretty freaking awesome, though, with Peter being symbiote badass and when Venom shows up, it's even better. However, that supervillain fight at the end they mention? It's Sandman and Venom versus...Spider-Man AND New Goblin. Which is stupid, because Harry hates him.

I'll be seeing it upon release.

[Depression]

Does look awesome, been looking forward to it for ages.
Does anybody know how long its on for, as said before the 3 badguys in one movie seems a little too much

I think I read about 130-140 minutes.

Spiderman is the perfect example of why the same minds behind the first movie should see it through until the end, or atleast until the 3rd movie. I heard we're in for more, but I can't see Rami/Tobey going for a forth. I believe Tobey's contract is up after 3?

Even so, can anybody name a 4th installment in a series that was worth watching?

Superman 4 uhh, Batman & Robin no thanks. Halloween/Friday the 13th/Nightmare on Elm Street, pass.

[Raziel_MGS]

well i heard kirsten dunst refuses to do anymore after this one

[Sendo Takeshi]

Even so, can anybody name a 4th installment in a series that was worth watching?



Rocky IV......

[LOSTyears]

Even so, can anybody name a 4th installment in a series that was worth watching?Haven't seen the new Die Hard yet, none of those have sucked IMO.

This franchise has been second to none since the comic book hero boom, its gonna take alot for me to be disappointed.


The Sandman looks completely awesome. And Venom translated pretty well just by looking at the pics.Yeah he does :thumbsup: I'll reserve any judgment on Venom till I see em.

[KatayokuのTenshi]

Even so, can anybody name a 4th installment in a series that was worth watching?

Hmm, no 4 . . . probably the second best of the whole series. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_wars_a_new_hope)

[Hara!]

The next Spidey villain should be Tony Stark.

[Vaikyuko]

The next Spidey villain should be Tony Stark.

It'll have to be a 2009 or so movie, that way Stark's ****ery will already have been well established in his own film. :P

[kt-san]

It'll have to be a 2009 or so movie, that way Stark's ****ery will already have been well established in his own film. :P

So true, so true.

[emotoaster]

I can't wait probably going to see the midnight showing, but there aren't any IMAX theaters near me. ;_;

I'm a little afraid they are trying to do to much but they haven't done wrong yet. And about the whole 4th film thing, it all depends on what happens to Venom/Brook.

[germanturkey]

harry potter ftw

if it follows along the comic book/cartoon lines, i'll be happy to see it... i'll probably go friday evening with friends

[Haro!]

well i heard kirsten dunst refuses to do anymore after this one
What is she thinking? Really that's the only good movies she's been in.

[Sendo Takeshi]

if it follows along the comic book/cartoon lines, i'll be happy to see it... i'll probably go friday evening with friends


It's never gonna go according to the comic book.

[Hara!]

It's never gonna go according to the comic book.

Organic webs and no Gwen Stacy FTW.

P.S.: Did anyone notice Stan Lee playing Gwen Stacy´s dad in part 2?

[superplough]

Hmm, no 4 . . . probably the second best of the whole series. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_wars_a_new_hope)

Yes but that was the first one released, the fourth to be released was that crappy prequel what gave us Jar Jar Binks :x

[Depression]

Rocky IV......

I thought they got progressively worse as they went on until 6. The movies started becoming caricatures of itself.

I forgot about Potter, but its kind of a different classification seeing how they're pretty much using the books as blueprints. Where as most sequels are studios attempts at capturing lightning in a bottle again and again.

And I'm hoping Die Hard 4 is good as well. I thought the trailer showed promise.

I guess they do exist, but they're just rare.

[sailornyanko]

What is she thinking? Really that's the only good movies she's been in.

I liked her in Interview with the vampire.

I'm kinda annoyed they are shoving so much publicity for Spidey 3. As if the movie needed it. Most people that are going to see it have already heard of it already.

[Depression]

What is she thinking? Really that's the only good movies she's been in.

I guess if you look at it from a career perspective, doing the same role 4 times can probably get dull. Unless you're struggling for paychecks you'll do as many as you can like Stallone.

Anyways, can't wait for tomorrow night to see this movie.

[Matsu'o Tsurayaba]

This is one movie i am going to see.

[KyouryokuSenshi]

My boyfriend's gotta see with without a doubt, so I'll be going too.

[emotoaster]

I'm going in 40 mins. CAN'T WAIT!!!!1111

[Reidar]

I'm going in with my special glasses that have a Dolph Lundgren cut-out taped to the lens so that I don't have to see Topher Grace playing Eddie Brock.

[emotoaster]

Just got back and it was pretty kick ***....here's my mini "review"

Positives-
Fighting kicked *** and there was lots of it
Venom was done well.
Black Suit Spidey owns and doesn't take no **** from no one!
Harry gets shanked

Negatives-
MJ vs Peter dragged the movie out and was longer than necessary and the whole Peter getting "down with his bad self" was funny but also just took too long.
Venom gets owned
and is most likely dead
I would have liked it more if Gwen was the one kidnapped and possibly killed
Movie is also pretty long at 2 and a half hours long.

Topher didn't do bad, but I still think Jock Brock would have been better.

It was overall very well done and it tied up all the strings. There is always room for 4 but if it doesn't happen the series still ended on a high note and relatively closed. If your on the fence about seeing it I would cough up the money and see it if you enjoyed the first two.

[Raziel_MGS]

ugh, this movie started out well...the first 45-hr of the film was great. but it goes down from there

Spidey emo, poor acting, bad scriptwriting, underwhelming action sequences, and basically inintelligent editing made me feel very disappointed. It was the same feeling as watching Batman Forever, I felt the series had gone on a little too long, allowing it to become bloated.

[Depression]

Definitely a lack of focus in the script. Its all over the place.

It really did suffer from the same things as Batman Forever. Batman Forever had too many subplots without a real cohesive core. Riddler, Two Face, Kidman, & Robin. All were touched upon, none were fleshed out.

Spider-man 3 suffered the same fate by trying to cover Sandman, Gwen, Venom, Harry, and MJ.

If you think about it, X-Men 3 went down the same path. The Cure, Phoenix, The Brotherhood, no focus.

I really disliked what they did with Harry's character. His character flip flopped whenever it was convenient for the story. Years of hatred forgiven because the Butler says what his best friend had been telling him since the beginning?

And Spidey letting Sandman go was completely out of character. Yeah, he forgave him for killing Uncle Ben but that doesn't neglect the fact that he's a bank robber, injured and probably killed hundreds in his acts of mayhem.

[Solid_Snake]

Even so, can anybody name a 4th installment in a series that was worth watching?


Land of the Dead.

[Sendo Takeshi]

And Spidey letting Sandman go was completely out of character. Yeah, he forgave him for killing Uncle Ben but that doesn't neglect the fact that he's a bank robber, injured and probably killed hundreds in his acts of mayhem.


Considering that he could have busted the Lizard when he went on his rampage, it's not completely out of character. Spidey is usually really sympathetic when it comes to these things. He's not necessarily Batman when it comes to fighting crime where Batman brings you down and that's it.

He's also let Morbius go before as well in the comics. It's nothing new. Like I said before, Spidey is sympathetic when it comes to taking down his villains because he can relate to the ones that didn't want to become who they became.

Anyway, I'll be seeing it tonight(hopefully).

[Westlo]

I liked it but it's definately nowhere near Batman Begins.

About Venom

what a waste

[Pariah]

Honestly one of the worst films I have ever seen. I'd put it on par with the Hulk, it was that bad.

Bad:
Screenplay - what a terrible, terrible film this was. Large numbers of scenes completely superfluous, terrible song scenes with Kirsten Dunst, and emo/angry/sexy Peter was just ridiculus. Don't even get me started on the dialouge.

Acting - Does anyone deserve being mentioned as not bad? Jameson (sp?) remained funny as usual, but he was no different to the first two films. The scene in the French restaurant was good, made purely by the Waiter, the scene itself was awful.

Action scenes - As an action film I was supremely underwhelmed by the action in this film. The fights hit their high point early in the film with a conflict between Spidey and the Hobgoblin. The Sandman showed promise, but completely lacked what Doc Ock had in spades, a presence, a real feeling of threat, menace. I realise that this wasn't what his character was supposed to be, but his fights were boring as hell...flying sand? really? And Venom, oh dear, such promise, perhaps the best villian in the Spidey universe and despite Topher's best efforts his scenes were boring and the climax fight was dull.

Character development - FAR too much time devoted to Peter and Mary Jane, Harry's character flops all over the place with no conviction whatsoever in any of his actions, Venom got about 15 minutes of screen time and Sandman, a character who really felt added in to draw in fans of the comic book, was tedious.

Characters full stop - Was there one genuinely interesting character in this film? I don't think so.

Length - I counted maybe 5 action sequences in this film, totalling maybe 30 minutes (if you include the amount of stalling they had in the final fight). Everything else was ridculously boring plot, songs, dancing and dialouge that should never have been read aloud.

The high point of this film was Topher Grace saying "WHAT THE HELL" (ala That 70's Show), which should give some indication of the strength of anything in this film.

Hugely disappointing.

[Anamin]

What is she thinking? Really that's the only good movies she's been in.


I beg your pardon? She was pretty badass in Interview with a Vampire. :lol: :lol:

I don't really like her though, actress-wise.

[Haro!]

It's been ages since I saw it so my bad on forgetting Interview with the Vampire.

[Anamin]

^It's all good. But unfortunately, she peaked from there and everything else went downhill.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Definitely a lack of focus in the script. Its all over the place.



Yeah my gripe was that as well. The CG was bad too if they can make Jar Jar look real 8 years ago I damned well expect better now. They should have split this movie up into two one with Sandman and GG2 the other with Venom.

[Dark_Shiki]

Just goes to show that books/comics don't translate very well onto screen. Unless of course you have someone willing to give it their all, and frankly with the people in hollywood, it's all about their name and their career, not about trying to stay faithful to the source material. They'll often blame the source material when one of their movies turns into a flop, which is so amusing to many fans.

I liked the first two xmen movies, but the third really fell short of what could've been. Still, with any comic franchise, there is far too much in the aims of charaters and ploys to flesh out within a given timeslot. The further they go with making these movies, the more it will be crammed with too much and too little from the original. Just my take.

[xAndronicusX]

Spider-Man 3 suffered from the same fate a lot of comic book movies do; trying to cram too many storylines into one movie. It wasn't as horrible as some people are making it out to be, but it is severely flawed.

Sam Raimi has a really cornball sense of humor too because all of the comic relief moments in all 3 Spider-Man films have made me roll my eyes and groan. There are so many of those moments in SM3 too. However, J.K. Simmons is as brilliant as ever as J. Jonah Jameson. He's always been the bright spot in the franchise to me. Say what you will about how other characters are screwed up, but Jameson is always dead on.

[Westlo]

They should have split this movie up into two one with Sandman and GG2 the other with Venom.

No doubt about that, film should've ended with Brock being taken over :\

[Raziel_MGS]

Just goes to show that books/comics don't translate very well onto screen. Unless of course you have someone willing to give it their all, and frankly with the people in hollywood, it's all about their name and their career, not about trying to stay faithful to the source material. They'll often blame the source material when one of their movies turns into a flop, which is so amusing to many fans.

I liked the first two xmen movies, but the third really fell short of what could've been. Still, with any comic franchise, there is far too much in the aims of charaters and ploys to flesh out within a given timeslot. The further they go with making these movies, the more it will be crammed with too much and too little from the original. Just my take.

well there is a difference between a comic book movie thats bad because its not faithful and a movie thats just bad. The first two spiderman movies were good in their own right, but the third one was bad, just like batman forever and xmen 3. Seems all the trilogy movies are bad at number 3

[emotoaster]

No doubt about that, film should've ended with Brock being taken over :\

Thats what I thought they would do but since Sandman was still at large they had to keep going.

About Peter letting Sandman go, you could make a case that Spidey has never had to capture a "super villain" both GG and Doc Oc died.

IF a 4th is made with the original cast who do you think will be the villains? I'm thinking/hoping it will finally be the Lizard and maybe Carnage since Dr. Connors still has a sample of the symbiote. I would like to see Electro/Mysterio done though and they could be used as set up villains.

[Reidar]

Carnage would never be in there without butchering the nature of his character to keep the movie from getting an R rating (without the murderous brutality, he would just be a Venom clone), but, ideally for me, the next movie would have the Lizard and Venom as the villains (and Cletus Kasady having a minor role to set up the next movie), and then Spiderman 5 would be rated R with Venom and Spiderman teaming up to destroy Carnage.

[emotoaster]

Someone told me that in the comics that is how Venom was "killed" but of coarse he comes back, I know the symbiote is still there but you can't have Venom without Brook so is it safe to assume he still out there despite being owned by a goblin bomb.

And Reidar you are right about Carnage, I would love to see it but it doubtful they would push it to an R for one villain.

[Raziel_MGS]

well there will be no more spiderman for at least a while i believe, so i think we are going to be pondering for a while

[Samurai Drifter]

I saw it today. It was pretty awesome. However, I think Venom could have been made a bit more insane. The bio-suit didn't seem as out-of-control as it did in the comic, where the people inside (first Peter Parker and then Eddie Brock) were just sort of along for the ride while it went crazy.

[Warabit]

Saw it tonight. Emo hot-shot Spidey made me cringe, I was thinking to myslef
"Are they serious? wtf am I watching, SNL?" ugh. I expected much more out of this movie. I am not a comics kinda guy. But Venom in Spiderman 3 destroyed my image of Venom. Evidently He lets you attempt at comdy at random while it in on you. And you become emo, Even your hair.

[Dark_Shiki]

BTW when in the hell did this 'emo' thing start becoming glorified? Have I been missing something, or is depression and suicide suddenly a favorite pasttime among the younger crowd these days?
Shouldn't it be a little insulting to those who actually suffer like that and don't attention grab?

[Reidar]

I know the symbiote is still there but you can't have Venom without Brook

Well, there are other people who become Venom in the comics, but if you're saying that you can't have a good Venom without Eddie Brock, then I agree.

[DarkDestiny]

This movie was totally random. I agree with most people, definitely a lack of focus which totally killed the whole movie. At the "Peter Parker strutting around town" scene, I half expected Fonzie to pop out and say "Hey." I agree with whoever said it was like an SNL clip.

Many pointless scenes, along with too many plot points, caused the movie to fall apart. I was very disappointed.

All in all, the trilogy comic book movies seem to be taking a pattern (at least X-men and Spiderman)- good, better, suck. So, in theory, Fantasic 4 -2 should be much better...but I will not get my hopes up.

[Raziel_MGS]

well the silver surfer is in, my favorite superhero, so it looks friggin awesome, if the whole movie was silver surfer with out F4, itd be even better

[Sendo Takeshi]

I enjoyed it. But then again, since I've been reading the book and keeping up with the Silver Age(in which most of this stuff derives from), I didn't really see a lack of focus in the story. It played out just like a comic book with the subplots and whatnot. Not better than Spidey 2, but still good to keep the franchise going.

Some of you may not keep up with the comics at all, so you know, not much you can really say.

Venom was handled pretty well. He definitely should have gotten the spotlight in this film, but eh, that's Hollywood for ya.

[Hara!]

I liked it but it's definately nowhere near Batman Begins.

About Venom

what a waste

Especially his part in that plot armored ending.

First, I just want to say, he probably isn´t dead. As long as the symbiote is part of your body, you are one. And as you saw, there was a bit of it left.

Second, why didn´t the symbiote retreat into Eddie instead of seperating from him? Why didn´t Venom refer to himself as ´we´? Why is it that his powers seem so limited compared to his powers in the comics?

And third: Man, Harry. Fail less. You are the GREEN GOBLIN. You shouldn´t be sorry. You should be:

¨Hey, do you like Street Fighter?¨
¨Fighter? Spider? SPIDER MAN!¨
*murderous rampage*

[lmc87]

Just in from seeing it, not exactly great if i was being honest.

One and two were miles better. Pretty bland performance from the cast, the only good parts was when the black spiderman came out to play and when the editor of the Bugle was in the scene.

One thing that annoyed me was Venom or whatever it is, now i don't read any of the comics or consider myself a spiderman nerd but seriously in the film all we see is some black crap coming from a meteor and it turns you into some bad *** dude with a cool haircut.

I also couldn't get over the dude's lazy eye, The amount of CGI in this film and they couldn't photoshop an eye? To be honest i had high expectations, when i seen X-Men 3 it just full of energy till the very end and if i was being fair X-Men 3 overshadowed this in almost every way.

Was ok to watch once but little to no rewatch value for me.

[Sendo Takeshi]

One thing that annoyed me was Venom or whatever it is, now i don't read any of the comics or consider myself a spiderman nerd but seriously in the film all we see is some black crap coming from a meteor and it turns you into some bad *** dude with a cool haircut.

The symbiote feeds off hate. Read the source material and be enlightened.

I also couldn't get over the dude's lazy eye, The amount of CGI in this film and they couldn't photoshop an eye? To be honest i had high expectations, when i seen X-Men 3 it just full of energy till the very end and if i was being fair X-Men 3 overshadowed this in almost every way.

Xmen 3 was pure a$$. It still wasn't better than Spidey 3. Try as it may, it failed harder than a emo kid attempting suicide.

[Westlo]

Xmen 3 was horrible, I never want to see any part of that movie again at least there are a few sequences in spidy3 I would like to rewatch.

All in all, the trilogy comic book movies seem to be taking a pattern (at least X-men and Spiderman)- good, better, suck. So, in theory, Fantasic 4 -2 should be much better...but I will not get my hopes up.

That theory falls apart since F4 was far from good, more like completely horrible. Silver Surfers inclusion and that trailer make me want to see the seuqel to a move I absolute despise though.....

[Jon]

Xmen 3 was okay, but Xmen and Xmen 2were a ton better. It's sad when the only scene you remember from Xmen 3 is the part where the military uses plastic guns.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Xmen 3 was okay, but Xmen and Xmen 2were a ton better. It's sad when the only scene you remember from Xmen 3 is the part where the military uses plastic guns.

I only remember "I'm the Juggernaught *****" line.

[lmc87]

The symbiote feeds off hate. Read the source material and be enlightened.

Xmen 3 was pure a$$. It still wasn't better than Spidey 3. Try as it may, it failed harder than a emo kid attempting suicide.

Meh, I'm not too bothered but should i really have to do any background reading just to understand a film? That's my biggest problem with some of these adaptations, some of these things should be explained in the film. Not everyone knows everything about Spiderman/Xmen/Fantastic 4/replace with whatever and should i really have to have any prior knowledge of some black tar that plops from the sky. I know it turns you into a badass and makes you dance funky but crap just doesn't fall out the sky and it's all hunky dorey.

I enjoyed the film, it was decent. But did it live upto my expectations? no.

But hey i know what kind of arguments these movies get on the internet. It's no different from the "OMG STARWARS IS SO BETTER THAN STAR TREK" crap thats been going on for years. As a sequel/continuation of the story, Spiderman 3 was poor. It didn't even have a good movie song, what the crap was that about. Josey Scott and Chad Kroger was a decent song on it's own, but when you tied it to Spiderman it was great.

[Ikari Warrior]

I have decided that Spider-man 3 is a good movie. It's the worst of the Spider-man movies, but it's a good movie.

My #1 problem: unless you read the source material, you wouldn't know what that "black tar" was. Venom got no explanation at all. It was just sorta there, and I think Raimi did that on purpose, since he hates the Venom character, and the fans demanded Venom be in the third one.

Other problems: Emo parker, general lack of exposition, focus on special effects, rather than the people in the film (more so than usual).

If Carnage is in Spider man 4, it should be co-directed by Quinten Tarantino (not solely directed as there would be too FEW special effects).

[Hara!]

That theory falls apart since F4 was far from good, more like completely horrible. Silver Surfers inclusion and that trailer make me want to see the seuqel to a move I absolute despise though.....

I guess I was the only one who liked it then.

Seriously, what was so wrong?

[Nialo931]

As comic kid when I was younger I have to say I liked the movie over all, parts could have been done better, there could have been no kids kicking my seat, but I liked it overall, my only beef with it was Venom's portrayal in some of the parts he got in this, not convincinly enough like Venom of the comics...I mean...What about his tongue! Everyone knows venom for his teeth AND HIS TONGUE!!!!

A fourth movie would lack in many things, like available good villains...who's left...scorpion, shocker, electro, mysterio? Those guys turn into daily annoyances for Spiderman and can't see them making a stand alone as villains after he's already gone against Venom. I seriously doubt a "Man-Spider" movie would turn out that great either. I think it may be done.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Meh, I'm not too bothered but should i really have to do any background reading just to understand a film? That's my biggest problem with some of these adaptations, some of these things should be explained in the film. Not everyone knows everything about Spiderman/Xmen/Fantastic 4/replace with whatever and should i really have to have any prior knowledge of some black tar that plops from the sky.

Spidey 3 was more of a geekfest for those of us that read the books over the years.

I know it turns you into a badass and makes you dance funky but crap just doesn't fall out the sky and it's all hunky dorey.



Seriously, go read up on it and you'll know what the symbiote does instead of trying to be funny with the same crap everyone has been spewing on the forums since the first showing in theaters.

[Samurai Drifter]

A fourth movie would lack in many things, like available good villains...who's left...scorpion, shocker, electro, mysterio? Those guys turn into daily annoyances for Spiderman and can't see them making a stand alone as villains after he's already gone against Venom. I seriously doubt a "Man-Spider" movie would turn out that great either. I think it may be done.
What about Carnage? The Lizard? Vulture? Kraven the Hunter? There are plenty more villains. Not to mention, Venom could always make a comeback. Anyone who's read the comic knows that it has regenerative capabilities (I can't remember if they showed that in the movie or not though).

[lmc87]

Spidey 3 was more of a geekfest for those of us that read the books over the years.



Seriously, go read up on it and you'll know what the symbiote does instead of trying to be funny with the same crap everyone has been spewing on the forums since the first showing in theaters.

:rolleyes: Your completley missing my point. I know what stuff does now, but again, i shouldn't have to do extra reading or go check out other stuff TO WATCH A MOVIE. It should be explained in the movie, afterall it is an adaptation you cannot assume that everyone knows what it is or what it does just because it's in a comic somewhere it needs to be explained and Spiderman 3 fails horribly in that sense.

As someone who hasn't read anything about spiderman and my knowledge is limited to only what's in the movies let me tell you how i, and 90% of the movie goers see it. Black alien meteor falls from sky, turns good guys bad and brings out "the dark side" and causes a ruckus. Compare it to the introduction to the other villians in the first two films and again you see how Spiderman 3 fails horribly.

What about Carnage? The Lizard? Vulture? Kraven the Hunter? There are plenty more villains. Not to mention, Venom could always make a comeback. Anyone who's read the comic knows that it has regenerative capabilities (I can't remember if they showed that in the movie or not though).

No, in the films it's over and thats it. If they brought it back into 4 it would be so tacky. "Hey we didn't mention this in spidey 3, but guess what, venom can regenerate lolz $10 please"

[Raziel_MGS]

Spidey 3 was more of a geekfest for those of us that read the books over the years.



Seriously, go read up on it and you'll know what the symbiote does instead of trying to be funny with the same crap everyone has been spewing on the forums since the first showing in theaters.

lol i am prolly one of the biggest comic book nerds ever but the movie was crap. Again, they did not make this movie to appeal to the comic book fans, but to make a ****-ton of money. Also, not telling people who havent seen the comics before about backstory was rediculous, as well as a random meteor crashing into the planet.

[Sendo Takeshi]

As someone who hasn't read anything about spiderman and my knowledge is limited to only what's in the movies let me tell you how i, and 90% of the movie goers see it. Black alien meteor falls from sky, turns good guys bad and brings out "the dark side" and causes a ruckus. Compare it to the introduction to the other villians in the first two films and again you see how Spiderman 3 fails horribly.

If you saw how the symbiote was introduced in the comics, you'd laugh. It was twice as corny as the movie intro. Spidey in space? Hello!


No, in the films it's over and thats it. If they brought it back into 4 it would be so tacky. "Hey we didn't mention this in spidey 3, but guess what, venom can regenerate lolz $10 please"

And yet Sandman goes free and lives. Venom doesn't make Spidey's spider-sense go off. So, he could get away easily. Venom can take a crapload of damage and shield his/her/it's host.

[Bernard_Monsha]

They should do the Vulture just so we can see Patrick Stewart in a tightie again.

[Ikari Warrior]

Also, not telling people who havent seen the comics before about backstory was rediculous, as well as a random meteor crashing into the planet.

Am I the only person who didn't think the meteor was a bad idea? Seriously, how do you include Venom without getting into that whole other "secret wars" storyline? The Fox cartoon had the symbiote coming down on a space shuttle that caused Jameson's astronaut son to crash. When they introduced him (Jameson's son), in the previous movie, I thought they were going to go with the same angle in the third movie.

But they didn't, they went with the meteor. I'm astounded at how many people can't suspend their disbelief for THAT of all things in the movie. It's called plot device, sheesh. That's like saying "oh gee, Peter just HAPPENED to be standing at that one spot, where the ONLY missing spider decided to descend and bite him". Yeah, it's true the source material, but what are the chances of getting bitten by a radioactive spider, AND getting powers from it, rather than, say, dying?

It's the exact same chances of a meteor falling to earth and having an alien ooze out of it.

[lmc87]

And yet Sandman goes free and lives. Venom doesn't make Spidey's spider-sense go off. So, he could get away easily. Venom can take a crapload of damage and shield his/her/it's host.

No doubt in he can taken alot of damage, but in the film they show him getting blown into smitherines and as far as i'm concerned venom is done. The only way they could introduce him is to drop another meteorite in there, you just have to disregard what ever has been said or done in the comics and go with what is set in the movies. They are two different things,

[lmc87]

Am I the only person who didn't think the meteor was a bad idea? Seriously, how do you include Venom without getting into that whole other "secret wars" storyline? The Fox cartoon had the symbiote coming down on a space shuttle that caused Jameson's astronaut son to crash. When they introduced him (Jameson's son), in the previous movie, I thought they were going to go with the same angle in the third movie.


To be frank i would have preffered the astronaught idea, but from a directors view it's much easier to do the meteor thing.

[Depression]

We actually saw Topher's skeleton in the blast.

[Westlo]

The only way they could introduce him is to drop another meteorite in there.

Peter's professor still has that tiny portion of the symbiote. Oh and to the person who said Harrys lasts words of you're my best friend to peter was lame, IIRC those were his last words in the comic (i read that over 10 years ago, was lucky enough to find a copy in a library).

[Vaikyuko]

@corncopp: No, I liked the Fantastic Four movie too. Got it on DVD.

I liked the movie overall quite a bit. Sure, I had my problems with it, but that didn't stop me from enjoying the fights or the very corny humor (which was pretty awesome XD). I foresee Lizard and/or Carnage pretty much definitely being the next villains (I know I wanted more Venom, but Raimi's probably not going to have him go the re-gen route). Fight scenes were also pretty decent, I thought (although I was kinda saddened that there really wasn't anything more to the first New Goblin fight, since I'd seen it on that sneak peek thing on TV ages ago).

Hey, I just thought of something. Raimi could simultaneously introduce one new villain (Scorpion), and reintroduce Venom at the same time....by having Scorpion bond with the suit a la the comics.

Naaaah.

@Bernard: IIRC, they had Ben Kingsley, who was going to be written in as Vulture for Spidey 3 in place of Sandman, but they decided to write him out for some reason.

[Nialo931]

What about Carnage? The Lizard? Vulture? Kraven the Hunter? There are plenty more villains. Not to mention, Venom could always make a comeback. Anyone who's read the comic knows that it has regenerative capabilities (I can't remember if they showed that in the movie or not though).

Big name villains though. The vulture would be the worst choice villain ever, he's the villain spidey would be beating on and arresting as the introduction for a movie. Kraven is good but not movie worthy unless they go into the whole "man-spider" thing when Kraven was hunting him down against the punisher. Lizard is also kind of third rate as a villain and can be beaten simply with a good thrashing. A good villain would have to be one that takes smarts and more than strength to beat, something that can be built upon and made dramatic for the audience. The use of Carnage would have to bring back Venom, and to bring back Venom would have to take quite a bit as well, not to mention Carnage wasn't calculating or anything, he just liked going down the streets killing people, no real motive there.

[Hara!]

There are only two more good Spider-Man villains to use: Slyde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slyde), and Tony Stark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man).

[RPGQueen]

There are only two more good Spider-Man villains to use: Slyde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slyde), and Tony Stark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man).

dude you are forgetting Rhino he's an all time classic:P

[Haro!]

F*** it. Sinister Six!

[Nialo931]

dude you are forgetting Rhino he's an all time classic:P

Rhino is powerful but he's too stupid to be a movie length villain, he was known for brawn, not brain. I say send Dead Pool at him, hahahah.

[superplough]

I saw this last night. And wow. Emo Spiderman? To quote Topher Grace, "What the HELL?" There was waaaaaaaaaay too much Mary Jane in it, if even half of her screen time had been given to Venom it would have been about a trillion times better.

Harry... Harry, Harry, Harry. Where did his balls go. Seriously. That butler thing was just lame. He needs to be more like his dad and kick *** constantly.

I still liked it though. What Venom there was was really good, but he just wasn't there for long enough.

[Vaikyuko]

F*** it. Sinister Six!

That would be impossible to do in one film unless they brought back quite literally all the villains they've used thus far and only needed to introduce one more to tie it all together. Although if all the movie villains came back, that would be pretty hardcore, in a sort of HAHA DIE SPIDEY kind of way. :P

[Solid_Snake]

There are only two more good Spider-Man villains to use: Slyde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slyde), and Tony Stark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man).
You're clearly forgetting Scorpion.

[LOSTyears]

What Venom there was was really good, but he just wasn't there for long enough.That was probably the one positive thing I liked about it, being a huge Venom fan I was impressed. I wasn't feeling Topher as Brock before I saw it and my mind didn't change much afterwards, but I was feeling him in the suit :thumbsup: it just clicked for me. They definitley should have had a seperate movie for em.

Tried my hardest to turn off my fan boy switch while watching but it didn't last long. The intro was great but after the hour mark it just got way overstuffed and cheesy. Don't get me started on that Jazz club dance sequence -_-; what the hell was that about, the suit was suppose amplify his aggression not turn him into Saturday Night Fever. I did enjoy it, the other positive thing besides Venom was that the action was top notch as expected. The rest of it was disappointing.
This one might of killed a sequel but who knows. Maybe the bar was set a little too high by the first 2.

[Haro!]

Contrary to the poor reviews, it was pretty good. Not as good as it should have been but I didn't fall asleep. I thought the scene where Peter Parker was walking around while wearing the black suit was hilarious, though everyone I know said that reminded them of me =( Venom didn't look as bad as I thought from the pictures, though it would have been cooler if he referred to himself as "we" and had that double-voice thing. Oh I also didn't like the Goblin costume it was kinda' meh, it looked more like he was going snowboarding in Vermont than being badass.

[Sendo Takeshi]

The funny thing about this movie is that Topher played a better Peter Parker than Toby did(the Daily Bugle scenes).

[Hara!]

The funny thing about this movie is that Topher played a better Peter Parker than Toby did(the Daily Bugle scenes).

That´s true. It´s also how he acted in Marvels.

[Rahxephon91]

lol i am prolly one of the biggest comic book nerds ever but the movie was crap. Again, they did not make this movie to appeal to the comic book fans, but to make a ****-ton of money. Also, not telling people who havent seen the comics before about backstory was rediculous, as well as a random meteor crashing into the planet.

Yeah and a dude wearing a blue and red suit and happens to have mutant powers isn't ridiculous.

The movie was fine. It got the theme of redemption across so that any idiot could understand. It was corny just like every non Batman comic book movie is.

Topher Grace was awesome as Venom. Sure I would have liked more Venom but seriously what story could you do with him?

But then again I hear that Rami didn't want to add Venom. Which would have been better if Rami didn't and saved Venom for the 4th one which could have lead into Spiderman 4,5,6 which could have been based off Ultimate Carnage, the clone stuff, and Gwen's death. See if the Venom thing is true then you can see why Venom doesn't fit into this redemption themed story. It really should have been just Sandman and Venom should have just had has origin. I mean the Sandman stuff and the MJ and Harry tension all go together but Venom just doesn't.

Oh and
http://static.imgfly.com/2007/05/07/8956/Gwen_Model.gif

Man it's:http://img9.imagepile.net/img9/76110good.gif

[Hara!]

Man it's:http://img9.imagepile.net/img9/76110good.gif

PIE!!!

SOOOOOOOOOO GOOD.

*awesome*

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/malomeat/1178429057120.jpg

[Sendo Takeshi]

Spiderman 4,5,6 which could have been based off Ultimate Carnage

Makes sense only because Ultimate Carnage is definitely a lot better than Cletus Cassidy so they could keep the PG-13 rating.

the clone stuff

Crack is whack.

and the Gewn's death.

Who's 'Gewn'?

Anyway, They should have fleshed Gwen out a lot more and cap off this first trilogy with Gwen and Spidey together. Then go into the new trilogy(should they decide to do it) and go with the Death of Gwen Stacy storyline. Gwen Stacy's death is still possible, though.

But, since there really wasn't any word of a Spidey 4 being greenlighted until after Sony got some advanced footage during the filming of the movie, all of that is impossible now. Damn it all.

[lmc87]

Man it's:http://img9.imagepile.net/img9/76110good.gif

He may like pie, but he has a lazy eye.

[Rahxephon91]

Crack is whack.

This is you on crack.
http://static.imgfly.com/2007/05/06/8875/Petejiggle.gif

Who's 'Gewn'?
Gwen sorry
http://img9.imagepile.net/img9/5652wink4.gif

[Hara!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDkWSQY2qhI

SOOO GOOD is now a meme.

[Sendo Takeshi]

This is you on crack.
http://static.imgfly.com/2007/05/06/8875/Petejiggle.gif


Gwen sorry
http://img9.imagepile.net/img9/5652wink4.gif


If that's me on crack, then break out the techno. What I'm listening to right now really goes well with that.

I love that wink. QUICK!!!! Resize it for avatar status. I must have it!!!!!!

But yeah, I doubt you'd want to see ANYTHING clone related in the Spidey movies.

[Westlo]

But yeah, I doubt you'd want to see ANYTHING clone related in the Spidey movies.

Kaine (sp) is cool :(

[Vaikyuko]

Coolest Spider clone is Scarlet Spider. Coolest Ultimate Spider clone is Scorpion. :P

[Hara!]

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/malomeat/1178579551110.jpg

[Chousho]

Wow, alot of hating going on in here.
I just got back from seeing it, and think it's, perhaps the best. While it doesn't work too much as a stand alone movie, it definitely has its merits. Even though I could tell the CG parts (and I really hate that), the fighting I thought was pretty cool. I'm not someone to go through a 5 point inspection of every frame, so I just base it off "did I enjoy this movie" and yes I did.

I was expecting a bit more time with Venom, and was sad that they finally got to that part towards the end. I really think it would've been cool if they had the Sinister Six, but for all the back story it would take forever. Right now the movie is still fresh in my mind and I'm still happy at how cool it was, walking out and smiling. I could go back and think "hmm, this wasn't done as well as it could have", but you know what? Screw that. I see movies to go along for the ride, not deep criticism on 26 dimensions about what could have happened better.

Spiderman 5 would be rated R with Venom and Spiderman teaming up to destroy Carnage.
Maximum Carnage, anyone? If they do have him, there better be some people tied up in the Statue of Liberty and appearances of Cloak and Dagger and Black Cat (mmmm)

[Panko Z]

i saw the thursday midnight showing and enjoyed it, most likely cuz i never read the comics and don't really care about "staying true to the source material" as long as it works. certainly not the worst movie ever but definitely the weakest of the trio imo. during and right after seeing it i thought it was pretty great but the more i look back on it i feel there was just too much lost potential.

if venom wasn't in there in the first place i wouldn't have cared or cried foul like comic junkies but he should've got more action, perhaps some kind of rampage through the city before the finale. sandman was pretty worthless, except for his initial birth and fights. his last battle and *cough*conclusion*cough* were big letdowns and didn't give me any sympathy for him. harry was also disappointing.

i don't know what's up with all the hate i've been seeing towards the actors lately, i like tobey as spidey. and i saw topher grace in the opening credits but i didn't immediately recognize him when brock first appeared, he really impressed me.

[guyverfanboy]

I absolutely loved the third Spiderman movie. :D Kyouryokusenshi (my girlfriend) liked it too.

I was disappointed with what to happened to Venom at the end. :(

[RPGQueen]

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/malomeat/1178579551110.jpg

wow they look like a couple of my ex's, scary really scary.

[SlackerDude]

^Then why did you date them? :lol:

Anyway, good movie, sucky ending...

[RPGQueen]

^ cause I thought they were nice

[Makunouchi]

The ending killed the entire movie for me.

[superplough]

The WAY too much Mary Jane is what killed it. Not that the ending was good, especially Harry...

[{NG}Fidel]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b45/Goufmaster/1178746248169.gif

[superplough]

Ok THAT is what killed it.

I love the way those ladies edge past him and then run, like he's contagious :lol:

[ffl]

Just saw it. I found it to be entertaining and very enjoyable. I was starting to worry that they would end it after Brock gets the suit and then save the Venom encounter for a fourth movie, but... they didn't. Which was fine.:)

Oh, and the actress for Gwen Stacy was as well.:) Ehehe... lab partner, huh? Nice.:naughty:

[Nialo931]

The whole nerd dance made me want to shoot Toby in the face...though I had this playing in my head..."Suit emits pheromones to attract the opposite sex, WARNING: Suit does not counter act, reduce, or hide nerd like behavior." Further proof that white people shouldn't dance.

[LOSTyears]

Man it's:http://img9.imagepile.net/img9/76110good.gifThats some good pie :lol: One of my favorite scenes in the movie.
He may have gotten OWNED in the best friend fight but evil Harry was so much better than whiny *****y Harry and amnesia Harry -_-;

[guyverfanboy]

Thats some good pie :lol: One of my favorite scenes in the movie.
He may have gotten OWNED in the best friend fight but evil Harry was so much better than whiny *****y Harry and amnesia Harry -_-;

I actually liked amnesia Harry. :lol:

[Rock]

That movie was decent at best. Venom sucked in that movie. Plain and simple. I got over the fact that he asked for help to kill Spider-Man, when he had NEVER EVEN FOUGHT HIM. Then Spider-Man asks Green-Goblin for help, and I wanted to gouge my eyes out.

Honestly the only good things from that movie for me were a couple of the fights, Bruce Campbell, and Sandman's character development.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

They killed Venom just because he was black.

[Hara!]

They killed Venom just because he was black.

Seconded. They treated him like a nappy headed pimp.

[Headcrab]

Seconded. They treated him like a nappy headed pimp.

You do know Eddie Brock wasn't the only Venom, They just killed off Eddie Brock Thank God.

[Hara!]

You do know Eddie Brock wasn't the only Venom, They just killed off Eddie Brock Thank God.

I know, but it still seems unlikely that he´d die like that.

Also, there are rumors of Eddie Brock becoming Venom again. Just rumors, but eh...

[Rurouni Saiyan]

The next spider-man movie needs to be nothing but Venom.

That out the way, I can say that in comparison with the first two Spidey films, 3 is a disappointment. It's like a soap opera with super heroes and villains. The movie was too much of a wussfess. I was cringing most of the movie, especially when Peter went into Rico Suave mode :x And the point where Aunt May said that a man has to put his wife ahead of himself...I was so tempted to shout bull*bleep* in the theatre. And don't get me started on Mary Jane. Seriously, if she gets whacked in the next movie, I wouldn't give a crap.

The action scenes were good...but that's just about it. Then again, I'm still riding off my 300 high with the Spartans.

I give Spider-Man 3 a 2 out of 5.

[Gannon]

The next spider-man movie needs to be nothing but Venom.

That out the way, I can say that in comparison with the first two Spidey films, 3 is a disappointment.

Agree with this.

It just goes to show that three villian's is way too difficult to write in. I hate to say it but it would've been better if they only focused on Sandman and had Venom waiting in the wings for the next movie.

I was cringing most of the movie, especially when Peter went into Rico Suave mode :x

I thought that part was nothing short of hilarious. That and Venom was the only saving grace to the movie.

And to add: Your an idiot if you think Venom is dead.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Spider-****ery was awesome in this movie. The level of douchebaggery in this movie can only be rivaled by Top Gun. I loved those scenes. Everyone was just being a jerk to each other. Harry took the cake(or should I say, The Pie) in those scenes though. Well, just the diner scene, really. But damn, that was just the greatest.

[Rurouni Saiyan]

And to add: Your an idiot if you think Venom is dead.

And you're an idiot to think that I said he was.

[Magami No ER]

I got over the fact that he asked for help to kill Spider-Man, when he had NEVER EVEN FOUGHT HIM.
To be fair, he merely said "kill Peter Parker", but yea, he still should've been contemplating doing in himself.
I just saw the movie for the second time in IMAX, where fight scenes are BIGGER and cornfests are CORNY. Still thought the film was entertaining, OBVIOUS reservations aside. *stares blankly at her Venom canvas*

[Rock]

To be fair, he merely said "kill Peter Parker", but yea, he still should've been contemplating doing in himself.
I just saw the movie for the second time in IMAX, where fight scenes are BIGGER and cornfests are CORNY. Still thought the film was entertaining, OBVIOUS reservations aside. *stares blankly at her Venom canvas*

I wasn't talking about Eddie Brock praying to God to kill Peter Parker, I was talking about Venom on the wall talking to Sandman asking for help to kill Spider-Man. That is horse crap. Straight up. So is Spider-Man asking Harry for help too. Bah, movie sucked.

[KazumaII]

you people have not seen true suck untill you have seen the captain America movie.

* Also thinking about the 1989 Fantastic Four version that included Dr.Doom with cardboard wristcuff. You can find a copy on ebay =p

[Vaikyuko]

'91 Captain America movie was so laughably bad I want to buy it. That Fantastic Four movie from before the big budget one, though? Utterly faaaaaails.

[teknoman]

Well it seems that Chris Gore likes Spider Man 3. check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NB56iEGaNE

I hope this helps?

[Matsu'o Tsurayaba]

They killed Venom just because he was black.

DY-NO-MITE!:spin:

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Finally i was able to see it,and i have a few things to say about it.

1-Eddie Brock should have been in Spider-Man2,but i remember him only being mentioned by name.

2-The symbiote was just a suit,so how could Peter rip it off in the church?It should have always been on his body.

3-There should have been more Gwen Stacy,but since Peter and Mary Jane were put together so early in the movies..this might not never change.

4-Sandman being reconned into being Uncle Ben`s killer?Even if it was not his fault..i think this is a bit much.

5-The meteor that fell to earth was too small,it was like a small rock just falling on the ground.It should have been bigger.

[Nialo931]

DY-NO-MITE!:spin:

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Finally i was able to see it,and i have a few things to say about it.

1-Eddie Brock should have been in Spider-Man2,but i remember him only being mentioned by name.

2-The symbiote was just a suit,so how could Peter rip it off in the church?It should have always been on his body.

3-There should have been more Gwen Stacy,but since Peter and Mary Jane were put together so early in the movies..this might not never change.

4-Sandman being reconned into being Uncle Ben`s killer?Even if it was not his fault..i think this is a bit much.

5-The meteor that fell to earth was too small,it was like a small rock just falling on the ground.It should have been bigger.

I can give you an answer to #2. The symbiote melded to one of his suits but it itself as they said is a parasitic organism. It latched onto him and it would not let him take it off when it sensed itself in danger of being severed from peter parker permenantly. The church was part of it as the symbiote is weak against strong sound vibrations, thus the church bell and later on the steel poles, it was the only way to weaken the symbiote enough for peter to tear the life form from him. I was only displeased with the fact that they didn't build up to him figuring out to use the church bell and it just happened by coincidence, unlike in the comics and cartoon where he learns of its weakness THEN goes to the church later on when he wants to be rid of it.

[Depression]

3-There should have been more Gwen Stacy,but since Peter and Mary Jane were put together so early in the movies..this might not never change.


I would have preferred to have no Gwen. She was only arm candy for Peter and a device to stir up the relationship between MJ and Pete, and piss off Brock.

Could of been a lot better if they cut out the relationship problems with MJ, no Gwen, more focus on the villains or in this case, more focus on Venom.

But as we all know, if Pete and MJ were happy, then MJ would get less screentime and that makes for an unhappy actress.