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Alice Catherine
January 30th, 2007, 05:15 PM
What the hell does "Keep your hand at the level of your eyes!" mean?
I always thought it was something about you not wanting to see Erik's face and so to keep your hand at the level of your eyes was to make it easier for you to cover them if a stupid 16 year old girl rips his mask off again.
But apparently it's something to do with the punjab.

PLEASE. HELP. ME. I made BETS over this.

Len
January 30th, 2007, 05:18 PM
If a police officer asks you to put your hands up they naturally parallel with your eyes. Its just a defence measure taken to ensure that both hands can be seen, since what you can see, they can see.

In Phantom of the Opera though it is to make sure the Lasso doesnt go only over the body, it will go over your hand aswell so you can easilly remove it.

Alice Catherine
January 30th, 2007, 05:26 PM
Oh.
See, this is why my mom needs to drive me to Reading so I can get the book. Because Borders Express SUCKS. I need to go to the REAL BORDERS which is 45 minutes away. 'Cause they have it. I'm sure it goes into much more detail about the Hand at the Level of your Eyes than the musical and movie...
...but it was still kinda obvious.

Len
January 30th, 2007, 05:28 PM
......ok o.o If it was obvious why did you ask? I answered the question to the best of my ability, which is completely..

Leader Desslock
January 30th, 2007, 05:32 PM
In Phantom of the Opera though it is to make sure the Lasso doesnt go only over the body, it will go over your hand aswell so you can easilly remove it.
It's not the body being protected, it's the neck. Keeping your hand up will ensure that the lasso will catch more of your body than merely your neck, which is one of the Opera Ghost's favorite little tricks.

In Terry Pratchett's novel Maskerade, which is a spoof of The Phantom Of The Opera, once this trick is realized, the cast on stage starts performing in conspicuously wide-brimmed hats, and with rather more saluting and waving than one would normally consider appropriate for the material. :lol:

I'm sure it goes into much more detail about the Hand at the Level of your Eyes than the musical and movie...
Yes and no. It's all handled a bit differently in the novel. Eric is a far darker, more sinister and insanely maniacal being in the novel. The "sympathetic, misunderstood genius" factor wasn't a big point in the novel. Eric is a ruthless, sadistic and cruel bastard, and you only feel the pity of the damned for him - but even then, not much.

Len
January 30th, 2007, 05:35 PM
Thats what I said. He wont catch only- OH. Yea, I was being over generalizing. Sorry. He usually aims for the neck, thats why the Lasso is dangerous. The hand helps you pry it off.

Thanks, LD.

Alice Catherine
January 31st, 2007, 12:41 PM
It's not the body being protected, it's the neck. Keeping your hand up will ensure that the lasso will catch more of your body than merely your neck, which is one of the Opera Ghost's favorite little tricks.

In Terry Pratchett's novel Maskerade, which is a spoof of The Phantom Of The Opera, once this trick is realized, the cast on stage starts performing in conspicuously wide-brimmed hats, and with rather more saluting and waving than one would normally consider appropriate for the material. :lol:


Yes and no. It's all handled a bit differently in the novel. Eric is a far darker, more sinister and insanely maniacal being in the novel. The "sympathetic, misunderstood genius" factor wasn't a big point in the novel. Eric is a ruthless, sadistic and cruel bastard, and you only feel the pity of the damned for him - but even then, not much.
Wow, LD, I didn't know you read books like this!

Leader Desslock
January 31st, 2007, 12:50 PM
Yep, I've got a piece of paper right on my wall that says: "Bachlers Dugree of Reeding an' Riting Gud". When it comes to words, I've seen a lot of 'em.

tenshi_a
January 31st, 2007, 12:58 PM
The thought of them wandering round with their hands level with their eyes like that always put the funniest image into my mind... it was like people wandering about with their hands pointing fake guns... like kids playing at being spies...

[that's why I'm no good with reading novels... I find the wrong things funny...]

Alice Catherine
January 31st, 2007, 01:09 PM
Yep, I've got a piece of paper right on my wall that says: "Bachlers Dugree of Reeding an' Riting Gud". When it comes to words, I've seen a lot of 'em.

But...but I thought you were into more manly stuff such as 1984 or Farenheit 451 or Tom Clancy or whatever men read! Not things such as Phantom.
ZOMG LD's freaking deep.

Len
January 31st, 2007, 01:34 PM
Yepp... pass me right on by. xD

Alice Catherine
January 31st, 2007, 02:20 PM
I assumed you were a girl. I thank you for your answer, though. I mean, you DO have pink text, love.

Samurai Drifter
January 31st, 2007, 08:47 PM
Because his real face is so damn ugly that you should raise your hand in front of your eyes to avoid looking at it.

At least, that's what I always thought of it as when I saw that play as a kid.

VidelCoolGirl
January 31st, 2007, 10:50 PM
Yep, I've got a piece of paper right on my wall that says: "Bachlers Dugree of Reeding an' Riting Gud". When it comes to words, I've seen a lot of 'em.

I need to put that in someones sig. Alice, put it under mine.

Alice Catherine
February 1st, 2007, 03:49 AM
^Will do, dear.
Lemme just go to school and explain to my friend how much of an idiot I am first.

Vaikyuko
February 1st, 2007, 05:30 PM
But...but I thought you were into more manly stuff such as 1984 or Farenheit 451 or Tom Clancy or whatever men read! Not things such as Phantom.
ZOMG LD's freaking deep.

Men read anything that peaks our interest, last I checked. I'll read anything from any genre, but if it's crappy I'll put it down. I don't like wasting my time, but I'll certainly spend a good bit of said time on something that deserves it (I just finished reading A Clockwork Orange and rereading The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy not too long ago, for example).

@LD: Bachelor's? I would have expected Master's. You probably do, come to think of it. I'm going for one myself.

The Million Dollar Prons
February 1st, 2007, 05:33 PM
I have my doctorate, am I winning yet? They told me becoming a Doctor would enable me to win on the Internet, so I did, did I do it right?

Leader Desslock
February 1st, 2007, 05:43 PM
Based on the quality of my handwriting, most people either assume that my signature is that of either: a) a doctor, or b) Michael J. Fox during an earthquake.

That as close as I ever hope to come to the Doctor level, unless I get recruited by the Timelords.

Holy Knight
February 1st, 2007, 05:46 PM
Yes and no. It's all handled a bit differently in the novel. Eric is a far darker, more sinister and insanely maniacal being in the novel. The "sympathetic, misunderstood genius" factor wasn't a big point in the novel. Eric is a ruthless, sadistic and cruel bastard, and you only feel the pity of the damned for him - but even then, not much.

Awesome. <Goes to add Phantom of the Opera on his "Must read list">

I at least hope the book is better than the recent film, which had too much melodrama.

Alice Catherine
February 2nd, 2007, 12:21 PM
Yeah, the musical's way better. Michael Crawford FTW.
Or anyone else who DOESN'T sound like a meatloaf stuffed with too much garlic. (Like Gerard Butler)

tenshi_a
February 2nd, 2007, 01:06 PM
I have my doctorate, am I winning yet? They told me becoming a Doctor would enable me to win on the Internet, so I did, did I do it right?
If you become a doctor, you get to say "Trust me, I'm a doctor", which on the Internet is pretty much winning everything.

And the novel is definitely the best incarnation of Phantom Of The Opera. Terry Pratchett's "Maskerade" comes second, but only because it wouldn't work without the original.

Michael Crawford is a plague who infects everything he touches. Sarah Brightman makes my ears bleed. Andrew Lloyd Webber was at his blandest. I remember Steve Barton was good, though... [my short review of the original cast recording]

Ikari Warrior
February 2nd, 2007, 08:54 PM
Based on the quality of my handwriting, most people either assume that my signature is that of b) Michael J. Fox during an earthquake.

=win! :lol:

Alice Catherine
February 3rd, 2007, 06:09 AM
And the novel is definitely the best incarnation of Phantom Of The Opera. Terry Pratchett's "Maskerade" comes second, but only because it wouldn't work without the original.
The novel came first. Instant win for being teh canon. Susan Kay is always second.

Michael Crawford is a plague who infects everything he touches. Sarah Brightman makes my ears bleed.
Michael Crawford is the best Phantom that's ever done the role. *don't get me started; on an actual PoTO forum this debate has gone on for 73 pages*
Gerard Butler comes last. I guess I could have forgiven him if it weren't for that last note in MOTN that was CLEARLY, CLEARLY looped to hell.
As for Sarah Brightman, you are my new hero. I absolutely HATE Sarah. ALW's wife>someone who's freaking voice fits the role, apparently.

Andrew Lloyd Webber was at his blandest. I remember Steve Barton was good, though... [my short review of the original cast recording]
As opposed to the trainwreck that we call "Cats"?
Yes, Steve Barton was WONDERFUL. Comes as a close second to Patrick Wilson. I actually liked him better as the Phantom, comes as a VERY close second to MC.

goddessofanime
February 3rd, 2007, 07:10 PM
Emmy Rossum was awful. Patrick Wilson has a lovely voice, but omg that hair made him look like a Hanson member.

The movie does suck technically, but man is it pretty to look at and one of my favorite guilty pleasures.

Yeah Gerard Butler can't sing but he sure is pretty........

Alice Catherine
February 4th, 2007, 05:39 AM
Emmy Rossum was awful. Patrick Wilson has a lovely voice, but omg that hair made him look like a Hanson member.

The movie does suck technically, but man is it pretty to look at and one of my favorite guilty pleasures.

Yeah Gerard Butler can't sing but he sure is pretty........

Yes, I concur. Except on Emmy Rossum, who is sure as hell better than Sarah Brightman.