Navy Seals or US Marines?

[Baka Ninja]

I got a Decision to make right after I get outta Highschool. I have nothin else better to do with my life and Im just to active and athletic to waste this talent in class and school. Ya know see the world,have fun,kill some terrorist,be a G.I Joe or Cowboy. I was thinking if the actual Military personnel,Military Enthusiast,ect., would give me any info on these 2. Thanks for the info in advance.

[animeotaku99]

YOu have to join the Navy to get into the SEALS, and you have to qualify for them. MArines you just go through Basic training a bit longer

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...try the rangers?

[Baka Ninja]

YOu have to join the Navy to get into the SEALS, and you have to qualify for them. MArines you just go through Basic training a bit longer

I thought you can just take the Seals Challange and then join? Ok,if you enlist in the Navy,can you just transfer for a request?

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...well, looks like you're dead set on joining the SEALS then. good luck. you're really gonna need it.

[Baka Ninja]

...well, looks like you're dead set on joining the SEALS then. good luck. you're really gonna need it.

Thanks,I read the physical requirements,
Pull ups-Minimum is eight with no time limit
Sit Ups-Minimum number is 52 in 2 minutes
Push Ups-Minimum number is 42 in 2 minutes
Running-1.5-mile run
Swimming-Swim 500 yards. Maximum time allowed is 12 minutes, 30 seconds

The only problem i see myself having is the swimming portion but Im working on that come march and summer time,In the mean time,Im working out my body more and more everyday. Marines is my second option is I dont get in. Seals after all is "Special Operation Forces"

[Rain]

As long as you're a man in uniform, it doesn't matter.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...remember, you also have to be smart. you know, brains? people have this misconception that SEALS are just brutes with cool guns. UH UH. they have to think on their feet too. like i said, much luck to you.

[Baka Ninja]

Um,quick Question,anybody here also looking into joining the Military?

...remember, you also have to be smart. you know, brains? people have this misconception that SEALS are just brutes with cool guns. UH UH. they have to think on their feet too. like i said, much luck to you.
My ASVAB test scores are coming in pretty soon.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

As long as you're a man in uniform, it doesn't matter.

...OH MY GOD! a Mel Spotting!

hmmm. so she loves a man in uniform. what about scrubs?

[sazae]

You will need a LOT to join the SEALs. I have lived off and on in Coronado (home of the SEALs training camp) for a few years now and I can say that I've seen the hardest of men fall to those tests. While the public isn't allowed to see what all is going on I can tell you from the sounds I hear on some nights and the debris that I see on the beach when leaving the island for San Diego is some pretty freaky stuff.

[Bernard_Monsha]

The SEALS take all branches of service, you have to be accepted then pass their training. You can also try out for Marine Force Recon, wich is a hair below the SEALS.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

You will need a LOT to join the SEALs. I have lived off and on in Coronado (home of the SEALs training camp) for a few years now and I can say that I've seen the hardest of men fall to those tests. While the public isn't allowed to see what all is going on I can tell you from the sounds I hear on some nights and the debris that I see on the beach when leaving the island for San Diego is some pretty freaky stuff.

...those SEALS and their sexy makeout parties...hmph! garumph!

[Baka Ninja]

I can HANDLE it,As iIquote from Al Bundy "I played High School Football!" meaning...I can pretty much handle anything that comes my way.

[dr ochanomizu]

... I was thinking if the actual Military personnel,Military Enthusiast,ect., would give me any info on these
I went through a Navy OCS program but what I know about Navy Seals program, the standards are very high. Here’s minimum requirements:

http://www.sealchallenge.navy.mil/seal/inserviceoverview.aspx

The washout rate is high on the basis of physical training and additionally, you must have met tough mental gumptions.

Classes typically lose around 70–80% of their trainees — either due to DORs or injuries sustained during training. The Navy will not release exact numbers, either percentages or raw figures, of the attrition rate for BUD/S. Most trainees are eliminated prior to completion of Hell Week, but trainees will continue to DOR in the second phase or be forced to leave because of injuries, or failing either the diving tests or the timed runs and swims….wikipedia on Navy Seals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy_SEALs);)

TS

[GreatNekoKoneko]

I can HANDLE it,As iIquote from Al Bundy "I played High School Football!" meaning...I can pretty much handle anything that comes my way.

...go to college first man. then you can make a decision based on what you, er, "learn" in college. don't miss out on this opportunity.

or else, you WILL end up like Al Bundy. hey wait. that might not be a bad idea...

[Mort]

you may want to look at rotc programs if you want to do college and join up. Over all I would say army but it all depends what you want to do. As for seals training have fun, they have the hardset school out there.

[emotoaster]

I'm planing on doing AFROTC or NROTC when I go to college later this year. Good luck with the SEAL thing man, Hell Week will be fun...

[Leader Desslock]

I can HANDLE it,As iIquote from Al Bundy "I played High School Football!" meaning...I can pretty much handle anything that comes my way.
I'm sure that 90% of the people who washed out of the SEALS training course have said the same thing. It's not their failing- the SEALS are an insanely tough bunch.

My advice: Go into the Marines, work very hard, study harder, and then when you're ready, try out for the SEALS.

[Haruhi]

I'm sure that 90% of the people who washed out of the SEALS training course have said the same thing. It's not their failing- the SEALS are an insanely tough bunch.

My advice: Go into the Marines, work very hard, study harder, and then when you're ready, try out for the SEALS.

I agree w/Desslock. I've heard marines who actually have military experience couldn't cut it out for SEALS. Mind you, these are people who have gone through a lot more than you probably have, being a high school student and all. If you think you can somehow cut it when top notch marines couldn't, then you're either too cocky, are underestimating the SEALs, or both.

Going directly to the SEALS w/no actual experience is like running before walking. In fact, it's like running a marathon before even learning to stand properly.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Um,quick Question,anybody here also looking into joining the Military?



I'm in the Air Force.

[Alienkid]

I would think twice bofore joining the Military.. But if I had to choose. I'd go through the BUDS to be a SEAL. I mean, Special Forces vs regular grunt. Go for the better training and weapons and stuff. But the best bet, would to be to talk to some seals, and to talk to some marines. (Not Recruiters)
They would be able to give you better details.

Personally I would go to college maybe ROTC before I joined the Military. Then go in as an Officer.

[Esrhan]

Been there, done that. 9 months in the Finnish Defence Forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Defence_Forces) was enough and I really don't see why anyone would willingly go for that line of work in this time and age.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Been there, done that. 9 months in the Finnish Defence Forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Defence_Forces) was enough and I really don't see why anyone would willingly go for that line of work in this time and age.


Since when was Finland ever in a modern war ever?

[Len]

Thread Starter is banned. <3

[Suiko Eiji]

Since when was Finland ever in a modern war ever?

Winter War of '39.

9 months in the Finnish Defence Forces was enough and I really don't see why anyone would willingly go for that line of work in this time and age.

Yes, but don't you have mandatory conscription? The US, fortunately, only has enforced conscription on a handful of occasions with only a few bad results. It's a cultural difference.

To the OP, I agree with Desslock. Since the Marines are already on your plate of decisions, go through there and see how well you do. Once you make it through basic and supplimentary courses, then weigh your options as to where you want to go. Trying out for SEALs is admirable, but keep in mind that they're badass because they don't accept just anyone. I wish you the best of luck.

To everyone else about "Go to college first": Some people aren't cut out for college first. One of my best friends had a real wild hair and joined the Army right out of High School and spent two years in the Airborne. He loved his time there and thinks about re-enlisting on occasion. But when his first contract term was up, he was ready to go to school. He said that if he went to college right off the bat and put off the Army, he wouldn't have done nearly as well in school. ROTC isn't necessarily a bad idea but not everyone wants a leg up or an immediate entryway into OCS. Strange as it sounds, there are people who enjoy the grunt work.

[Vaikyuko]

I'm sure that 90% of the people who washed out of the SEALS training course have said the same thing. It's not their failing- the SEALS are an insanely tough bunch.

My advice: Go into the Marines, work very hard, study harder, and then when you're ready, try out for the SEALS.

Truth. (filler, delicious filler)

[germanturkey]

i'm applying to the Naval Academy...

yeah, seals is a hard thing to go into.. chances are that you'll wash out. no disrespect towards you. before you go into seals, you need to become a BUD/s, (basic underwater demolition and salvage)... not so sure about the salvage part, but yeah. that in itself is a hard hard process. then if you make it through buds, you start seal training, which is a 8 month (?) longish process in which they break you in every way possible. then they rebuild you into a sick fighting machine.

marines on the other hand, washout rates are much lower, but its still really tough. my sister, who also attends the USNA says she's known really tough guys who switch to marine after graduation and can't cut it...

my advice, go to college first, maybe do ROTC if you're into military stuff, then decide from there. cause you're obligated to do 4 years active after ROTC anyways.

[CrossboneGundam]

PROTIP: Playing football in high school does not automatically qualify you for everything.

And it's not like you can't exercise outside of class.

Anyway, most people coming out of the military service without any college degree tend to find themselves wanting one. Unless they're satisfied to do manual labor or manufacturing work that can be outsourced to Malaysia any time.

Hell, isn't one of the big advertising pitches for the military that it'll pay for your college education?

[Suiko Eiji]

Anyway, most people coming out of the military service without any college degree tend to find themselves wanting one. Unless they're satisfied to do manual labor or manufacturing work that can be outsourced to Malaysia any time.

Hell, isn't one of the big advertising pitches for the military that it'll pay for your college education?

Yeah, it is. And it's amazing because unlike some scholarships I've seen, you can combine GI Bill with practically anything. That's what I was alluding to in my earlier post; if you've got that wild hair to join the military, you can serve out your contract with them and they'll pay for most, if not all, of your college education.

[Bernard_Monsha]

marines on the other hand, washout rates are much lower, but its still really tough. my sister, who also attends the USNA says she's known really tough guys who switch to marine after graduation and can't cut it...


That is because the USNA is a completely different situation than Marine Corp. My best friend who served with me went *** backwards. He was in the Corp for 4 years then was accepted to Annapolis he told me how ridiculous the upper class men were with their intimidation of lower classes. He basically told me who are you going to respect more, a 40 year old hardcore Marine who has seen combat or a 20 year old kid whose voice has barely cracked.

Another one of my old Marine buddies went into the Army, he tried the Air Force but they do not like Marine Corp retreads. Something about not being manageable. ;)

[ffl]

While your experience with your HS football training regimen may help to prepare you for military training and service, that really won't hold much water. You'll just have to see for yourself though. Have fun.^_^

Since it seems like your mind is already set on trying to be known as one of the elite, anything most of us say will probably be ignored anyway, even if you make a mental note not to. One piece of advice though, "Don't get ahead of yourself. Take it one step at a time."

[Warabit]

I've been interested in joining the military for a long time. Am still contemplating it tbh. If I did I would either want to be an electrical engineer(or the like, I already talked to recruiters and they said I can basically do whatever I want based on grades and ASVAB) or lug around a 50cal sniper rifle. I'm leaning more towards the later. I'd love to blow apart vehicles, and especially terrorists, with a 50cal rifle...gets me giddy.

[emotoaster]

^Is'nt as pretty as the movies make it. I got a 85 on the ASVAP. I was looking into possibly enlisting in the Navy right out of high school, but I wanna check out college first. :D

Oh and I can't stand recruiters...

[Levon]

My dad was a Navy Seal & he was in the Army, he doesn't talk to me much about it & I don't really care because I'm not interested in the Army, Navy or anything. Not at a time like this anyway, if I felt the war(if you wanna call it that) was righteous then maybe I'd join.

[Haruhi]

My friend recently joined the marine. One of the important things is to be able to do several pull ups, sit ups and push ups. Some of the basic training for the Marines is running 5 miles EVERY morning at 4 AM. After that, you'd head to base where you put on over 50 pounds of equipment, then scale a mountain w/all of that on you. Then come back down. You do that every day regardless of the weather.

[Warabit]

My friend recently joined the marine. One of the important things is to be able to do several pull ups, sit ups and push ups. Some of the basic training for the Marines is running 5 miles EVERY morning at 4 AM. After that, you'd head to base where you put on over 50 pounds of equipment, then scale a mountain w/all of that on you. Then come back down. You do that every day regardless of the weather.

Sounds intense, although a little exagerated. I like though. Thats my kinda thing. Oh and Highschool football wasnt really what I considered rough. It was fun in a rough kinda way.

[Levon]

My friend recently joined the marine. One of the important things is to be able to do several pull ups, sit ups and push ups. Some of the basic training for the Marines is running 5 miles EVERY morning at 4 AM. After that, you'd head to base where you put on over 50 pounds of equipment, then scale a mountain w/all of that on you. Then come back down. You do that every day regardless of the weather.

I would die durring training-_-;

[Caine]

My friend recently joined the marine. One of the important things is to be able to do several pull ups, sit ups and push ups. Some of the basic training for the Marines is running 5 miles EVERY morning at 4 AM. After that, you'd head to base where you put on over 50 pounds of equipment, then scale a mountain w/all of that on you. Then come back down. You do that every day regardless of the weather.

If I was ever in the type of shape where I thought I could survive all of that, I would seriously consider joining just for the training. It sounds hard in physically straining but for some odd reason fun way.