Why Does Everyone Hate FFX-2?

[KingNe!]

Why? I've just finished it, and I have to say that people make way too much of a fuss about it. It's a decent game, IMHO.

First and foremost, the gameplay is perhaps the most addictictive out of every FF I've played. FFX really dissapointed in this area, and X-2 totally redeems it.

The music is average, but by no means bad. I hear the guy who did ''The Bouncer'' also did this. Unfortunately, this soundtrack is nowhere near as good as it was in that game.

Believe it or not, character interaction is actually very good in it's own light-hearted way. Its so much fun to see Rikku and Yuna annoy the hell outta Paine. And let's not forget LeBlanc and her goons. Big deal if nobody is angsting about their pasts. This is fun.

I can understand why some people hate it. It's femininity can repulse straight men, and the absence of any bishounen can dissapoint the hormonal girl. But the only real flaw I see with it is the plot. Its not really focused. But it suits this type of mission based game.

But really, why is this game so reviled?

[Gibb]

I actually have no hate for the game, but I haven't really played it much either. I love quirky stuff, and I play games like Kira Kira Music Hour, DDR, Pangya, etc. The only thing that kept me from playing this game was the abundance of other games I was already playing when it came out. I bought it, like I always do, but I only put maybe 30 minutes or an hour into it.

Maybe one day i'll go back and fully play through it.

[crow-kun]

Hey I'm a straight guy and I liked the game. The only thing that annoyed me was that the story sucked. I loved the battle system though, SEMI NUDE TRANSFORMATION SEQUENCES FTW!!!! And I may be the only one but I was actually pretty happy that Tidus came back at the end.

[Sendo Takeshi]

The only good thing about that game was the battle system. Made FFX's look extra generic.

[Soluzar]

The only good thing about that game was the battle system. Made FFX's look extra generic.
It would be cool if they used that system for a game with a more "Final Fantasy" feel to it. You could call them "costume spheres" instead of "Dress spheres" or even "job spheres" and it would be suitable for a more gender-balanced party.

[Joeshie]

I quit as soon as I had to throw a concert in the Thunderplains, if that tells you anything.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Because they made Lulu a fatass.

[crow-kun]

Because they made Lulu a fatass.Huh? What are you talking about?

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Huh? What are you talking about?

You see, Lulu was the only reason to play FFX (She bent over whenever you won a battle), and then in FFX-2 she was pregnant... what the hell? THat's the least hottest thing ever.

I wrote Square-Enix an angry letter in Japanese about it.

[Warabit]

Huh? What are you talking about?

lol

I believe she in prgnant in FFX-2

But as for me , I loved the game. Its just a lighthearted fun RPG by squaresoft with a fun battle system.

[crow-kun]

I know she was pregnant but she sure as hell didn't look it. They even made a comment about it in the game.

[Ketaru]

I can understand why some people hate it. It's femininity can repulse straight men, and the absence of any bishounen can dissapoint the hormonal girl.

Don't even try using that card.

I simply found the music unbearable at times. No other Final Fantasy game has put me off as much as this game did by virtue of its music alone. It gets points for its (far and few inbetween) piano pieces, but other than that...(and yes, music is relevant to the enjoyment of the game. You hear it from beginning to end, for the most part).

And, as Soluzar said, the game was simply too "Let's Play Dress-Up!" for my taste.

[Danju]

The only things about the game I really liked were the battle system, the dress spheres and Rikku. She was an absolute babe!

[Danju]

I simply found the music unbearable at times. No other Final Fantasy game has put me off as much as this game did by virtue of its music alone. It gets points for its (far and few inbetween) piano pieces, but other than that...(and yes, music is relevant to the enjoyment of the game. You hear it from beginning to end, for the most part).
The music was pretty good, IMO. The only song I couldn't stand was Real Emotion. 1000 Words was a beautiful song, though the whole concert in the Thunder Plains kind of ruined it... The background songs, for the most part, weren't too shabby. I'd say the soundtrack overall enhanced the game's experience, but not nearly enough to make it worth playing in the first place.

[KingNe!]

Don't even try using that card.

Unfortunately, that card threw some people off the game.

I simply found the music unbearable at times. No other Final Fantasy game has put me off as much as this game did by virtue of its music alone. It gets points for its (far and few inbetween) piano pieces, but other than that...(and yes, music is relevant to the enjoyment of the game. You hear it from beginning to end, for the most part).

Music is very important to me in games. But not this one. I admit, the battle music sounds absolutely disgusting, but you can always mute it and put on a CD if it bothers you that much (I actually did this after awhile). But its not all bad. Some nice piano pieces as you said, and Real Emotion and 1000 words are solid songs. For the most part, it was appropriate and didnt take as much as it gave to the experience.

And, as Soluzar said, the game was simply too "Let's Play Dress-Up!" for my taste.

Lighten up. Thats one of the reasons to play the game. How cool does Paine look as a songstress?

[Yukito Kunisaki]

The game is fine, but the game was very boring, and getting through that yevon dungeon was a task...then again, I still haven't. I remember those damned elder drakes and me without Catnip >_<....

[Ariel Tsuki]

:/ I think it wasn't that entertaining. Granted the Dress Spheres battle system was fun to play at first (and it seems I'm the only one who like FF10's battle system more) but it wore off it's novelty after a while for me.

Plus the story wasn't spectular, it gave Shuyan (or whatever his name is) and Lynne way too much airplay when it could've focused more on Yuna and Tidus.

Plus the job non-linear structure didn't really make it feel like a RPG. It pretty much felt like a game with a bunch of side quests with some story elements in it.

I glad that I didn't have the prefect ending, it totally downplays the emotional ending of FF10 that you don't see much of out the FF franchise, IMO.

[crow-kun]

Lighten up. Thats one of the reasons to play the game. How cool does Paine look as a songstress?She also had the best dance!!!:)

[Naster]

the whole reason i didnt like the game? i was disappointed that tidus didn't die. he was the main reason i almost stopped playing ffX. i can't stand the sissy, whiney, crying main character. it's a chore just to keep playing a game that focuses on a character like that.

other reasons?
-the game had no substance. at the end i really didn't feel like i knew any of the main characters better. i certainly got to know the villians really weel, but who cares about that if they are just gonna die in the end anyways?
-it was wayy to easy for a final fantasy game. i beat the game at level 55. that is plain sad. even the Via Infinito was easy to go through. the only semi-difficult battle in the game was against trema, and he was the "toughest" in the game.
-the whole "Charlie's Angels" thing seemed ok at first.. until i realized i would be listening to a Goth (Paine), an emo (Yuna), and an adderall ***** (Rikku) the entire game. listening to their conversations was like continually scrapping my nails across an old black chalk board. it hurt, alot.
-the programmers recycled way too much material. it made the game seem sort of half-assed to me.
-if they can bring tidus back, why not auron? he was by far the coolest person in ffX. why can't we at least see him at the far plain?
-like i said, tidus didn't die.

there are many more reason why i did not like this game, but i haven't played it in so long (nor do i intend to ever pick it up again) that i can't remember them all.

[gameoffreak8]

I don't hate Final Fantasy X-2 because the story and music are good, IMO. The batte system is not bad, though. But I really hate Blitzball system. It's make me WTF.

[Westlo]

One thing I will say about FFX-2.. is that it's battle system is a vast improvement over FFX.

[Tidusauron12]

While I thought the music was only in par... It wasn't really that bad... You shouldn't shun the composers so much... they worked really hard on the OST. I have to admit though... some of those songs were... retarded (YRP Battle!? WTF!)

FFX, VII, and VIII have my favourite OSTs. But I think Yoko Shinomura did a decent job with Kingdom Hearts II myself. He's good with raising simple emotions for battle.

[kittynboi]

They think it makes them look cool. Thats why.

[Hopelesromantic]

I'd like it more, if I didn't have so many bruises from being beaten senseless from all the anime music videos based on it :)

Hey I liked the first few, then it became "aw man not another one" and look, they even used the last guys footage almost unchanged, even though the two songs have nothing remotely similar about them.

Gamewise, son appears to have really liked playing it.

[ryushe]

Other than the story and throw away characters, I actually enjoyed this game.

The only thing that really pised me of was when I beat the game I had 99.8% <_<

[Len]

11 things that come to mind when I think of X-2.

1. The story was stupid.
2. I finished the game with 99.9%
3. The battle system was excelent.
4. The fact that there was NG+ was a plus.
5. Trema is the hardest boss in PS2 Final Fantasy IMO.
6. Paine is hot.
7. Yuna, Paine and Rikku's combonation things: Floral Fallal, Machina Maw and ... Paine's thingy she gets from Trommel, are cool and a departure from the original style.
8. Yuna is pretty in Floral Fallal. xD
9. Accessories made the game fun.
10. Cat Nip made the game boring.
11. Chocobo Events pissed me off.

[ryushe]

^ So, did you dislike it or not?

[Len]

If you weigh the good and bad, the good out-weigh the bad. It was a good game, and I beat it about 4 times to get everything. The bad part is the storyline was non-existant. YAY Im going to find Tidus. Skip to the ending.

[ryushe]

It was a good game, and I beat it about 4 times to get everything.
This is the only FF I've ever beat so many times (I think 7 or 8 times)

[Matsu'o Tsurayaba]

The story kind of messed up the Final Fantasy X Universe,some places changed..some for good..some for the worst.The fighting engine was good at first,but it was too smooth.

A example is that if..lets say Rikku is in critical health,and Yuna tries to heal her with a cure spell..and Rikku is actually killed before the cure spell reaches her.This happened often with me,so Rikku would fall to the ground,and the cure spell would hit thin air.

I also never saw the good ending,because i never got the Mascot Dressphere,which only happens when you get a perfect or such in every episode of the game.

[Len]

I've beaten FF7 and FF6 both a total of 12 times before I moved on. :lol: I dont think I quite moved on from them though, I may play them again soon.

[VidelCoolGirl]

Man, I know I totally made a tread called the same thing back in the day. I like X-2, I just hate the voices...Love the battle system.

[Tidusauron12]

Man, I know I totally made a tread called the same thing back in the day. I like X-2, I just hate the voices...Love the battle system.

Yep. I remember it. If it makes you feel any better, I liked that one better.

[VidelCoolGirl]

Yep. I remember it. If it makes you feel any better, I liked that one better.

:lol: Well, it doesn't matter much, but thanks.

[Hara!]

:lol: Well, it doesn't matter much, but thanks.

PRO:
Best FF battle system ever.

CON:
Lulu got pregnant. To a racist Hawaiian. Not me...

[Tidusauron12]

PRO:
Best FF battle system ever.

CON:
Lulu got pregnant. To a racist Hawaiian. Not me...

lol. That's funny.

[Len]

Thing is, the FFX-2 battle system was.. basically the same as the other Final Fantasies.. I dont see anything different. Just set it to ATB instead of Wait for the older FF games and they will keep attacking while you imput commands etc. The only miniscule difference I noticed between FFX-2's battle system was the Dress Spheres,

[Tidusauron12]

Thing is, the FFX-2 battle system was.. basically the same as the other Final Fantasies.. I dont see anything different. Just set it to ATB instead of Wait for the older FF games and they will keep attacking while you imput commands etc. The only miniscule difference I noticed between FFX-2's battle system was the Dress Spheres,

It was different though. Unlike in FFX, where you have all day to derive strategies... you don't have that option in 2. You have ot be constantly moving... the only problem is... the enemies are too easy.

[Westlo]

Thing is, the FFX-2 battle system was.. basically the same as the other Final Fantasies.. I dont see anything different. Just set it to ATB instead of Wait for the older FF games and they will keep attacking while you imput commands etc. The only miniscule difference I noticed between FFX-2's battle system was the Dress Spheres,

You did play more than an hour yeah?

[Ketaru]

Thing is, the FFX-2 battle system was.. basically the same as the other Final Fantasies.. I dont see anything different. Just set it to ATB instead of Wait for the older FF games and they will keep attacking while you imput commands etc. The only miniscule difference I noticed between FFX-2's battle system was the Dress Spheres,

FFX-2 had faster paced battle system, which is one of the positive points of the game. It wasn't like X where you could twiddle your thumbs while waiting to decide what to do. If you ask me, the way they made it so you could easily swap between characters in X was a really bad idea.

[Sendo Takeshi]

It also allowed for combos and to snuff out an enemies attack sequence.

[Anamin]

Yes. That is all.

[Lacan]

I hated Final Fantasy X-2 with a passion, so here is my few cents. I played the game for over 15 hours when I first got it the day it came out. However I hated the game for many reasons, story, gameplay, music, fun factor etc. And alot of the charcters from the last FFX game are now very out of Character in FFX-2 especially Yuna.

I remember I got excited that it would have the Job system again,etc. Except the jobs sucks and do very little damage and are of use.

Also in fact because of FFX-2, I almost quit playing any RPGs in the world permantly, until Final Fantasy XII came out and I played Final Fantasy XII for almost 200 hours just to max out everything, even though I've beaten the game in 65 hours, and to fight those super bosses etc. Man I love FFXII, I hope they don't screw up its sequel on the DS like they did with FFX-2.

Also I still have a backlog of other FF games I need to finish, Final Fantasy III DS, Final Fantasy V Advance, and Final Fantasy VI Advance. Even though I've actually beaten all the other 3 on different platforms already.

[RPGQueen]

It's like charles angels. I hate charles angels.

[Len]

Thats an idiotic response. It's nothing lke Charlie's Angels. The gimmick of the game sometimes has to be bypassed to fully enjoy it. FFX-2 was good because of its Battle Style. It was quicker and took more skill to master, it also allowed you build up hits and made you have to be quick with your fingers. On a side note, This is why Namco doesnt release the majority of Tales games in America, because if its hard, people complain and tell other people not to buy it. FFX-2 was good because it was hard to master. Try beating Trema without using the Catnip SOS???? trick, and you'll have enough respect for the game to not prejudge it by its first appearence.

Fyi Lacan, The Job system in FFX-2 is not weak. You didn't play it enough to get it. You get accessories later in the game to equip extra jobs along with the ones you have, so like you can equip Bushido while having Swordplay and Slots at the same time for example. Or Black Magic on a White Mage with Excalibur. The system was basically almost identical to FFV's only with the extra leap adding the Garment Grid to use (Which is almost useless since I recommend you not switch during battle.) Without the GG, the game becomes almost FFV to a tee. You get abilities and suits to learn other abilities and it is even possible to pile up MORE class abilities in FFX-2 than in FFV.

You shouldn't stop playing a game so quickly.

[RPGQueen]

It wasn't that hard to master. I have now bet it at 100%. so yea there you go.

[Hara!]

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[Tidusauron12]

It also allowed for combos and to snuff out an enemies attack sequence.

lol, a weakness of the 'improved' battle system indeed.

[Sendo Takeshi]

lol, a weakness of the 'improved' battle system indeed.


How was that a weakness?

[Tidusauron12]

How was that a weakness?

Enemies could be overpowered and over taken too easily, making the game a little too easy. Though I liked that battle system, I thought that sometimes the enemies were too slow.

[Mooserocka]

becuase its charlies angels meets ff X thats why. And wakka is bosley.

[RPGQueen]

becuase its charlies angels meets ff X thats why. And wakka is bosley.

Thank you, someone agrees with me :D

[Westlo]

lol @ lens last 2 responses.. I guess the 2nd one was posted when you got past the opening song yeah?

[Holy Knight]

Having now played a bit more than an hour, I can now understand why this game is so hated. I think everyone was taken aback at the sheer amount of corny situations, cheesy character movements and actions and downright "girliness" of it, which it has in abundance.

However, I was expecting something so bad from the start, that this game has already grown on me. I'll just treat it as a fun ride and keep it as a guilty pleasure. It's not that it's bad per se, it's just gone into a very different direction from other Final Fantasies. I'm not sure about the amount of effort or how serious the game developpers were about it, but it does have its own charm.

As for the battle system, I haven't seen too much yet, but I can already see why it's highly praised (although, is it just me or do you learn new abilities at a very fast rate? In just a half-hour I'd already gained three or four new abilities related to the basic spheres with only maybe 10 or so battles fought).

Lastly, I have to ask: do the different missions affect the outcome of the story? I wouldn't want to choose one mission then find out I missed out on an item, side-quest, etc. (I'm at the part where you have to choose betwenn Zanarkand or Besaid, right at the beginning).

[Hara!]

Lastly, I have to ask: do the different missions affect the outcome of the story? I wouldn't want to choose one mission then find out I missed out on an item, side-quest, etc. (I'm at the part where you have to choose betwenn Zanarkand or Besaid, right at the beginning).

Some do. You have to Gfaq that to be sure.

[RPGQueen]

I think nthe real reason people hate it is because it seems to be trying to be a cross over game trying to get the female market but instead it left the fans of the final fantasy games feeling alienated.

[Rahxephon91]

I think nthe real reason people hate it is because it seems to be trying to be a cross over game trying to get the female market but instead it left the fans of the final fantasy games feeling alienated.

Yeah G-strings and almost naked ladies is the best way to attract the female market.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Yeah G-strings and almost naked ladies is the best way to attract the female market.


Lots of lesbians out there.

[Somyungi]

But is that what they're into?? I wouldn't know.

[RPGQueen]

Yeah G-strings and almost naked ladies is the best way to attract the female market.

Well g-strings worked for the spice girls, madona, chistina agulara, and britney spears.

[Whoomp]

I do not hate it in fact I like it more than FFX.

[Tidusauron12]

I do not hate it in fact I like it more than FFX.

Well, X-2 is way different than most other FF games... so... maybe you're wishing for a series of FF more similar to X-2 (you know, bad storyline, ok characters, meaningless sidequests).

[Westlo]

(you know, bad storyline, ok characters, meaningless sidequests).

You talking about X or X-2?

[Tidusauron12]

You talking about X or X-2?

X-2.......

[Westlo]

Oh my bad, sounded like it was X!