FFTA2 announced and FFT - The Lion War for PSP.....

[Sendo Takeshi]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5090564&postcount=1


FFTA2 for the DS and a port of FFT for the PSP. New jobs will be added into the port of FFT. Seems interesting. But, since it's a port...eh....might not be as intriguing.

I just hope FFTA2 has WiFi battles or something.

[Gibb]

: joygasm :

I'm also curious what this FFXII: Revenant Wings is.

[ryushe]

*Sigh* as much as I love Final fantasy Tactics, It's still basically the same thing I've played years ago. Sorry Playstation Portable, your officially full of fail if you have to go back to 8 or some odd years ago to get a "new" game.

[Gibb]

I hope they increase the number of characters you can keep. By the end of the game it seems like I had to get rid of most everybody except unique story characters. I want to keep all my people that helped me get to the end >___<

[HitokiriShadow]

I never got very far in FFTA, but I'll probably pick up FFTA2.

I'm still waiting for FFT2 (i.e. full-fledged console sequel).

[Danju]

*Sigh* as much as I love Final fantasy Tactics, It's still basically the same thing I've played years ago. Sorry Playstation Portable, your officially full of fail if you have to go back to 8 or some odd years ago to get a "new" game.
They do this a lot with Japanese games; releasing the same game with some extra goodies. I find this very good for the PSP. I can't wait!

[Gibb]

*Sigh* as much as I love Final fantasy Tactics, It's still basically the same thing I've played years ago. Sorry Playstation Portable, your officially full of fail if you have to go back to 8 or some odd years ago to get a "new" game.

I still find this argument laughable, no offense. There are plenty of brand new games coming out on the PSP, but whenever they re-release a game that loads of people would fricking kill for, it gets bashed for it.

When Metroid and Zelda and those types of games released on the GBA as a "Classic" series of games, I didnt see anybody complaining about that.

[Sendo Takeshi]

When Metroid and Zelda and those types of games released on the GBA as a "Classic" series of games, I didnt see anybody complaining about that.


There's a huge difference in digging up near-20-year-old games from their graves and re-releasing them on a cheap portable. Now when Sony re-releases RECENT games(within the last 10 years or so) on a near-300-dollar portable, then that's bound to piss people off. Hell, it pissed me off. C'mon, SFA3 Max was basically Double Upper with 3 extra characters.

Hell, I'd want new games on a portable that I invested a hefty amount of my money in. The PSP could have done a lot better.

I'm still gonna get this though on the PSP because FFT >* and when I have sit down on the toilet and rip out a fury, that'll be my game.

[Gibb]

There's a huge difference in digging up near-20-year-old games from their graves and re-releasing them on a cheap portable. Now when Sony re-releases RECENT games(within the last 10 years or so) on a near-300-dollar portable, then that's bound to piss people off. Hell, it pissed me off. C'mon, SFA3 Max was basically Double Upper with 3 extra characters.

In related news. Nintendo is re-releasing games from the last 10 years on a nearly $300 system. The prices are cheap for some, but outrageous for others. The Genesis collection that came out on the PSP just recently kicks the crap out of the entire VC library IMHO, it it's only $20, the price of 4 NES games on the VC. You didnt have to buy SFA3, but you did right? What other handheld fighter compares to it?

[Sendo Takeshi]

In related news. Nintendo is re-releasing games from the last 10 years on a nearly $300 system.

Still doesn't detract from the fact that the Wii itself will have plenty of new games. Helluva lot more than the PSP.

The prices are cheap for some, but outrageous for others. The Genesis collection that came out on the PSP just recently kicks the crap out of the entire VC library IMHO, it it's only $20, the price of 4 NES games on the VC.

Meh...Emulation ftw.

You didnt have to buy SFA3, but you did right? What other handheld fighter compares to it?

I didn't actually because I already knew what was coming out in that package and I have owned and played every version of SFA3. So yeah, I saved myself some dough right there. T5 DR > SFA3 Max on the PSP. It's a lot more playable.


EDIT - Let's not make this a DS vs. PSP thread or something.

I really hope FFTA2 doesn't have those stupid rules in it again. God, did I hate that. And the game was hella easier than anything else.

[Jon]

FFTA2?! Damnit yes, and no. Yes as I'm having a joygasm and no as I don't want to spend that many hours on it, even though I will.

[Lunay]

I look forward to both, especially FFT: Lion War for the PSP. I think the cel-shaded movie will add a nice touch to the original. As stated by Deathscythe, WiFi feature for FFTA2 should be amazing if the game is capable of player battle. I can't wait to try Onion Knight.

[Jon]

And of course, we all know I'd kick DeathSythce's *** on wifi.:)

[Hara!]

Feh.

Put a nippon ichi game on the DS, then we'll talk.

[Sendo Takeshi]

And of course, we all know I'd kick DeathSythce's *** on wifi.:)



Money match in FFTA2. Bet it. =p

[Michael]

I don't have a PSP, or any intentions of ever buying one. So that negates the awesomeness of FFT:LW for myself.

But a new FFTA game, and with on the DS, I'm sold.

[Ikari Warrior]

it's a shame SE can't/didn't put a TRUE FFT sequal or prequal on PS2. FFTA was good, but not nearly as delightfully dark and gritty as FFT. If FFTA2 can match FFT in its serious, well-thought-out storyline, I might be sold.

[Gibb]

it's a shame SE can't/didn't put a TRUE FFT sequal or prequal on PS2. FFTA was good, but not nearly as delightfully dark and gritty as FFT. If FFTA2 can match FFT in its serious, well-thought-out storyline, I might be sold.

I really hope the Judge system is left out, but somehow I doubt it.

[Michael]

I like the concept of the Judges. FFXII made me like them even more. But the law system needs to go, or have a complete overhaul.

We can only hope that FFTA2 returns to the real Ivalice, and without the Neverending Story storyline to it. I've loved every incarnation of Ivalice, but nothing beats the dark storylines and settings of the original Tactics and Vagrant Story.

[Porco Rosso]

Sweet deal. Hopefully the FFT port will get a new translation when/if it comes to North America. It's the best FF story by far, but the PS1 translation blew.

I'm not too interested in FFTA2 because FFTA was Matsuno's most mediocre game, and a sequel that doesn't involve him can only be worse.

[crow-kun]

I really hope the Judge system is left out, but somehow I doubt it.They disbanded at the end so they probably won't but if they do, it will be complete BS.

[Undrave]

They disbanded at the end so they probably won't but if they do, it will be complete BS.

They didn't disband. During the extra missions Marche and Cid kick the corrupt Judges out of the organisation and Cid chooses Marche as the next Judgemaster.

I personally loved FFTA...off course I'm not all cool and hardcore and want all that gritty stuff... and I didn't play FFT...but I still love FFTA and I'll buy FFTA2 when it comes out! Hopefully I'll have a DS at that point.

Animists! Mog Knights! Assasins! Elementalists! Bishops! Morphers! BLUE MAGES! I really like Blue Mages :p

[crow-kun]

They didn't disband. During the extra missions Marche and Cid kick the corrupt Judges out of the organisation and Cid chooses Marche as the next Judgemaster.He just gave him the sword to keep he didn't make him a Judgemaster.

[ryushe]

I still find this argument laughable, no offense. There are plenty of brand new games coming out on the PSP, but whenever they re-release a game that loads of people would fricking kill for, it gets bashed for it.
My post might have sounded like I was bashing the PSP, But honestly, I'm just tired of the ports of games I haven't played to long ago. Not to be a fanboy or anything, but when the DS does a port, they do big things. Just look at Final Fantasy III.

Don't get me wrong, as long as it doesnt need to use the analog, I'll get it. I'm a square ***** if you didn't know :P


[QUOTE=Gibb;5986984]When Metroid and Zelda and those types of games released on the GBA as a "Classic" series of games, I didn't see anybody complaining about that.
True. But both came out before I was born. :naughty:

[Gibb]

My post might have sounded like I was bashing the PSP, But honestly, I'm just tired of the ports of games I haven't played to long ago. Not to be a fanboy or anything, but when the DS does a port, they do big things. Just look at Final Fantasy III.

Don't get me wrong, as long as it doesnt need to use the analog, I'll get it. I'm a square ***** if you didn't know :P


I picked up Resident Evil DS and loved it, but the only thing they changed from the original PS1 version was a retarded stylus knife slashing thing. I just played the regular version since the knife version was stupid.

I picked up Mario 64 DS and was thrown for a loop because they replaced Mario with Yoshi, and added some stupid hat switching function. I didnt like it at all and would have rather had the straight up 64 version. Also wasnt Mario Kart DS just the SNES one with some extra courses?

FFIII is the only port I've seen that was radically different for the better.




True. But both came out before I was born. :naughty:

whoa, I thought you were around my age (25 or so).

[ryushe]

I picked up Resident Evil DS and loved it, but the only thing they changed from the original PS1 version was a retarded stylus knife slashing thing. I just played the regular version since the knife version was stupid.

I picked up Mario 64 DS and was thrown for a loop because they replaced Mario with Yoshi, and added some stupid hat switching function. I didnt like it at all and would have rather had the straight up 64 version.
Well, Can't argue there. Maybe my problem is that the DS isn't as port heavy as the PSP. But again, I don't wanna start a flame war.

Also wasnt Mario Kart DS just the SNES one with some extra courses?
Well, you can say that about any racer that has a sequel, triple, etc. But Mario Kart wasn't a port in my eyes. Heck, it's the best Mario Kart I've ever played. Yes, even better than 64 and Double Dash and still one of the best games on the DS.

whoa, I thought you were around my age (25 or so).
:lol: What gave you that idea? You'd be even more surprised if you were to see me in real life :lol:

[Gibb]

I'm definitely not trying to start any flame wars either. I just think the PSP is getting more grief for ports than it deserves. Both systems have ports and new games.

Back on topic:

I'm looking forward to all 3 of these FF games (including the FFXII DS thing). I'm also looking forward to Disgaea PSP since it'll have some new content.

[Undrave]

He just gave him the sword to keep he didn't make him a Judgemaster.

The Judgemaster Sword isn't just a pretty sword, it's the symbol of his status, like a scepter is for a King. 'Giving you my Judgemaster Sword' is a way of saying "Will you please accept to be my successor?". If it was just a sword for safekeeping, Marche wouldn't have mentionned duty and responsability and stuff.

[kittynboi]

FFTA2 better be better than FFTA, which I thought was highly questionable. I couldn't stand the storyline.

[crow-kun]

I noticed a lot of the final fantasy games adding the onion knight class. What is unique to it?

[Lunay]

I noticed a lot of the final fantasy games adding the onion knight class. What is unique to it?

Onion Knight was only playable in FFIII. In the original famicom version, Onion Knight (Tamanegi Kenshi) is the job you start out with. In the recent remake of FFIII, Onion Knight can only be attained by unlocking it. Its a mysterious job because Onion Knight is really weak at the beginning, but is possibly the best job once you raise you characters to level 95+.

I think, Onion Knight related stuff is added just as a homage to FFIII. They are seen in FFV Anthology version for the PS1, Lulu's ultimate weapon in FFX, and Onion weapon is the starting weapon in FFXI. Now, in FFT: The Lion War.

[Porco Rosso]

I believe there was also various forms of Onion ammo for the ranged weapons in FFXII.

[Solid_Snake]

*Sigh* as much as I love Final fantasy Tactics, It's still basically the same thing I've played years ago. Sorry Playstation Portable, your officially full of fail if you have to go back to 8 or some odd years ago to get a "new" game.

Yea, 'cause we know the DS has no ports on it... Oh, wait....

Sweet! I wish I wouldn't have paid fifty bones for the PSX version though. :(

[HitokiriShadow]

I believe there was also various forms of Onion ammo for the ranged weapons in FFXII.

Correct. It was the weakest kind of bullets/arrows/bolts/somethingelse.

[Undrave]

Yea, 'cause we know the DS has no ports on it... Oh, wait....

Sweet! I wish I wouldn't have paid fifty bones for the PSX version though. :(

I don't think the point is that the DS has no port, but that is has more 'star' games that are new compared to the PSP... plus the DS ports are not just a few years old, they go back to games that are harder to find.

[Solid_Snake]

I don't think the point is that the DS has no port, but that is has more 'star' games that are new compared to the PSP... plus the DS ports are not just a few years old, they go back to games that are harder to find.

Resident Evil and Mario 64 hard to find?

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

PS: That example is stupid, as FFT, Disgeaea and VP are some of the highest selling items on Ebay. Nice try, though.

[Westlo]

FFT on PSP has a nice trailer, really makes me want to play through it again.

[Ikari Warrior]

FFT on PSP has a nice trailer, really makes me want to play through it again.

Where is this trailer?

[ryushe]

Resident Evil and Mario 64 hard to find?

AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

PS: That example is stupid, as FFT, Disgeaea and VP are some of the highest selling items on Ebay. Nice try, though.
Final Fantasy Tactics (http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&shortcut=0&from=R41&query=Final+fantasy+tactics&category0=&Submit=Search) hard to find? :lol:

To be fair, The original Resident Evil and Super Mario 64 is not as easy to find outside of EBay compared to Final Fantasy Tactics. Heck, The game store down the street from me has at least two copies of FFT that I know of.

And it's also kinda fanboy~ish of you to insinuate that the DS is as port heavy as the PSP. Come on, It's common knowledge if you exhibit any form of being a gamer.

[Jae Hoon]

FFTA was 1000x better then FFT. FFT was bland boring and uninsperational. Cant wait for the sequal to FFTA.

[Soluzar]

FFTA was 1000x better then FFT. FFT was bland boring and uninsperational. Cant wait for the sequal to FFTA.
:crybaby:

Jae?


Jae HOON?


Did someone hijack your account, or am I having a nightmare? There's just NO other explanation.

Seriously though... I'm surprised to hear you say that. I thought that FFTA had terrible character designs, a boring and pointless story, and that the law system was the worst thing to ever happen to an SRPG. Other than that, it was simply the least interesting SRPG I had ever played. Not bad, as such. Then there's FFT, which is still one of the least interesting SRPG titles I've ever played, but at least had a worthwhile story, and some decent ideas for the system.

[Jae Hoon]

:crybaby:

Jae?


Jae HOON?


Did someone hijack your account, or am I having a nightmare? There's just NO other explanation.

Seriously though... I'm surprised to hear you say that. I thought that FFTA had terrible character designs, a boring and pointless story, and that the law system was the worst thing to ever happen to an SRPG. Other than that, it was simply the least interesting SRPG I had ever played. Not bad, as such. Then there's FFT, which is still one of the least interesting SRPG titles I've ever played, but at least had a worthwhile story, and some decent ideas for the system.



I dont even think it had a worthwhile story or decent ideas it was just plain boring. FFTA wasnt the deepest or best but it was at least fun, FFT just seemed like one big chore. Although Disgaea does own them both for free.

[ryushe]

Seriously though... I'm surprised to hear you say that. I thought that FFTA had terrible character designs, a boring and pointless story, and that the law system was the worst thing to ever happen to an SRPG. Other than that, it was simply the least interesting SRPG I had ever played. Not bad, as such. Then there's FFT, which is still one of the least interesting SRPG titles I've ever played, but at least had a worthwhile story, and some decent ideas for the system.
I actually played FFTA before I did FFT and I gotta say I loved the law system. If it wasn't in the game, You would honestly be considered a powerhouse to every other clan out there (Two sworded Paladin ftw). This is the first GBA (And Final Fantasy) game that I every clocked in over 100+ hours to. I just don't get why FFTA get the sht it gets.

[Akito]

My only major problem with FFT was the slow-moving battle system. If the battle navigation was much quicker like in Disgaea, it would have been a much better game.

[Michael]

The only thing Law system accomplished in FFTA was to force me to plan my route accordingly. If I didn't like the laws of the day I'd land on something, I'd just run back and forth a couple times to change it to something more favorable.

In other words, nothing could stop me from being a powerhouse.

I'd like to see the game balanced better in itself, rather than try to resort to secondary methods of containment. Ohnoes, this map was all monsters and I arrived on a "No Offensive Action on Monsters" law day (most retarded law ever). Time to reload and take a couple extra steps to get there.

[Sendo Takeshi]

FFTA was 1000x better then FFT. FFT was bland boring and uninsperational. Cant wait for the sequal to FFTA.



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!![/Vader]

I don't know you Jae. I DON'T!!!!! *runs away crying*

Judge rules ftl.

[Soluzar]

Although Disgaea does own them both for free.
So much it's not even funny. I just wish they'd release a version of that with the battle voices fixed. For now, I have to settle for playing the Japanese version on PSP. I don't own the Japanese PS2 version, unfortunately. Call me a weeaboo if you will, but the Japanese battle voices are so much better than the English it's heartbreaking.

[Gibb]

So much it's not even funny. I just wish they'd release a version of that with the battle voices fixed. For now, I have to settle for playing the Japanese version on PSP. I don't own the Japanese PS2 version, unfortunately. Call me a weeaboo if you will, but the Japanese battle voices are so much better than the English it's heartbreaking.

The "Japanese Battle Voices for Disgaea 2" wish list item that was "Approved" by NISA was my wish ^___^

When Disgaea 2 was announced, I made that wish to hope they'd not screw up the battle voices like D1 and a couple of their other games. It's just sloppy to dub half of the battle voices, and leave them mixed.

I would love a better translated Disgaea 1 with full Japanese and English battle voice support (since it was mixed for both settings I think).

I think I've said this before, maybe even in this thread, but FFT was my favorite game of all time. When I was playing through Disgaea 1 for the first time, I kept telling myself "This isnt as good as FFT, it just cant be better." Turns out I fell, hard, and Disgaea 1 kicked the crap out of FFT. I even thought the Disgaea 1 story was fantastic. Sure it was comedic for most of the game, but it still had some pretty cool plot type moments ^__^.

[Soluzar]

The "Japanese Battle Voices for Disgaea 2" wish list item that was "Approved" by NISA was my wish ^___^You, sir, are now officially my hero. :wub:

When Disgaea 2 was announced, I made that wish to hope they'd not screw up the battle voices like D1 and a couple of their other games. It's just sloppy to dub half of the battle voices, and leave them mixed.

I would love a better translated Disgaea 1 with full Japanese and English battle voice support (since it was mixed for both settings I think).
It was indeed the same (mixed) voices for both settings, just like the later Makai Kingdom was. It was very sloppy, and while I don't mind the Disgaea dub, the battle voices are the worst part.

Especially rogues.

[Michael]

While I do love NiS games, and don't care for a single numbered Final Fantasy outside of XI and XII (and not that XI really counts), I can't really compare them to more serious tactical RPGs like Tactics.

Not saying they're bad, I absolutely love them. They're just in a league of their own outside of primarily drama driven games.

[Ikari Warrior]

...I'd just run back and forth a couple times to change it to something more favorable.

In other words, nothing could stop me from being a powerhouse.

...Ohnoes, this map was all monsters and I arrived on a "No Offensive Action on Monsters" law day (most retarded law ever). Time to reload and take a couple extra steps to get there.

Quote & edit for emphasis.

Quite the contrary can be true, too. Not only can nothing stop you from being a powerhouse, but getting law cards allows you to manipulate the laws to make you MORE of a powerhouse. I got a "do not harm" card for each species, and used all five on the last boss fight. It just had to stand there and take it because they had a JUDGE at the last fight. (for the first or second ending, anyway)

The problem with the law system was how it affected enemy AI -- they never broke the laws (except for that example case at the start).

And while we're raggin' on FFTA, I'd like to add in that if they have the misson-based story line, they need to not have the optional stuff randomized. I'm stuck at the end of FFTA, with all this UBER power, and I'm killing the same weak idiots over and over because I keep getting the exact same missions, and thus the same useless items. I can't finish the game because the necessary missions aren't available to me.

[Bernard_Monsha]

For the Onion Knight I would like to say FF3 it was a generic class with no special abilities, it was also feast or famine on the weapons and armour you could use. In other words you could only use the absolute worst or best type.

[ryushe]

Final Fantasy Tactics: Shishi Sensou Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=3901)

[Undrave]

I actually played FFTA before I did FFT and I gotta say I loved the law system. If it wasn't in the game, You would honestly be considered a powerhouse to every other clan out there (Two sworded Paladin ftw). This is the first GBA (And Final Fantasy) game that I every clocked in over 100+ hours to. I just don't get why FFTA get the sht it gets.

I don't get it either.

My original game of FFTA which I still keep saved is clocking in at over 197 hours with a good half of my clan all at level 50 and my seconday game is over 100 hours...and it's the third one I made oO

I never had problem getting all 300 missions...altough I always forget to try to get the mace that gives you the Ultimate Blow for Nu Mou...I should use that strategy guide I bought more often ^^;;

[Rahxephon91]

New Japanese magizine news.

FFT Lion War - PSP
New job: Dark Knight, New character: Bathier from FF12. Not just a guest character, follows Ramza in the story

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=138366

[crow-kun]

Why are they doing that the worlds aren't even related.

[ffl]

Isn't FFXII set in Ivalice...? Besides, Cloud was in the first one yet he wasn't from the same world either.:P

[crow-kun]

Isn't FFXII set in Ivalice...? Besides, Cloud was in the first one yet he wasn't from the same world either.:PBut that was caused by a shift in the time space continuum.:P There are no airships in the Final Fantasy Tactics Ivalice nor Bangaa or Veira as well as a good many other things. Square is putting Final Fantasy XII in my Tactics and it's a bitter taste indeed.

[Michael]

Guess what, Balthier just got sucked into that time space continuum.

A lot of people like XII, and a lot of people liked VII. And to top it all off, Balthier makes far more sense than Cloud.

FFT's Ivalice is long after technology has died, and likely most of the exotic races have either been pushed into hiding through prejudiced genocide, or entirely wiped out. Or they just fought losing battles and wiped themselves out.

And just because there weren't any airships actively flying the skies during the timeline of Tactics, does not mean Tactic's Ivalice was without a history of them. Final battlefield, anyone?

[Soluzar]

Why are they doing that the worlds aren't even related.
That's my opinion too. The use of Ivalice as the name of the FFXII setting is just a cynical attempt to cash in on a better game. I'm not saying that FFXII is bad, though. Just that the developers stuck the name "Ivalice" on it for less than entirely sound reasons.

[Rahxephon91]

That's my opinion too. The use of Ivalice as the name of the FFXII setting is just a cynical attempt to cash in on a better game. I'm not saying that FFXII is bad, though. Just that the developers stuck the name "Ivalice" on it for less than entirely sound reasons.

Or that its from the same team thats done all the Ivalice games and every Square game from that team has had references to it.

[crow-kun]

You know what I think would have been a good addition? Making the Pub missions more interactive. I think it would be cool to actually get to go out and find the forgotten lands and lost treasure sort of like how you could go through different level to find that guys lover who was turned into a dragon.

[Soluzar]

Or that its from the same team thats done all the Ivalice games and every Square game from that team has had references to it.
That's as good an explanation as any. It's not very sensible of them to do such things unless they are willing to maintain some kind of continuity. The games demonstrably don't have any intentional continuity. You can fanwank something if you desire to, but it would be something you wanted to see, not what was there.

[Michael]

You know what I think would have been a good addition? Making the Pub missions more interactive. I think it would be cool to actually get to go out and find the forgotten lands and lost treasure sort of like how you could go through different level to find that guys lover who was turned into a dragon.
Agree, I'd definitely love to see some side stuff that's a little higher quality than "side stuff." Don't just send me to an extra battle.

[Westlo]

Hmm FFT for PSP looks like something I'll definately be getting.

Better translation
New Jobs
Animated cut scenes
Multiplayer

They better fine tune calculators....

[cris]

I hope FFTA2 (if it's Advance) plays differently from Advance. I really didn't like the Judge System too much.

The Japanese one at least.

[Rahxephon91]

http://image.www.rakuten.co.jp/edigi-game/img10074145232.jpeg
Awesome cover!

[crow-kun]

http://image.www.rakuten.co.jp/edigi-game/img10074145232.jpeg
Awesome cover!
Wow that is awesome. How much do you want to bet the U.S. gets a downgrade?

[Rahxephon91]

Wow that is awesome. How much do you want to bet the U.S. gets a downgrade?

Ehh, it wont be that but the US version could be good. I mean Square is pretty ok with covers.

Then again you could wait until it gets released in Europe if you really want the cover.