They Should SO Make a Modern Version of Phantom of the Opera!

[Alice Catherine]

Now before you post, please follow these rules:
1. Keep in mind that I got up at 6:45 this morning to watch the movie.
2. I do not mean making the musical today. I went to see it on Wednesday, so it's pretty modern in those terms.
3. Before saying OH MY ****ING GOD WHAT A HORRIBLE IDEA! UR A LOSER!!!111, read the rest of the post.


Think about it. Christine could be some lonely band geek who finally gets a solo in the school drama/musical club after the popular cheerleader who ALWAYS gets it quits. Raoul could be a hot emo kid who she met as a kid before her dad died. The phantom could be a disfigured emo kid. Christine lives with the local ballet teacher and her daughter, who is also Christine's best friend, in the apartment over the ballet house.
And it could have modern music styles. It's been done before through West Side Story/Romeo and Juliet and Shakespear's Romeo and Juliet, why can't it work for PotO?
NOW you can call me crazy if you see fit. ^_^

[Bernard_Monsha]

The only good modern version of something like that is Ian McKellan's Richard III. Sorry but any attempt to update a classic or even a trashy pulp novel like Phantom of the Opera rarely leads to anything but SUCK x infinity. Look at Rent.

[Alice Catherine]

...Phantom of the Opera is AWESOME.
It is NOT a trashy pulp novel.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...andrew lloyd webber was tripping balls when he wrote phantom. if theres a story that should be written into a musical, it should be M.D. Geist.

[SabakuKuniGaara]

Romeo and Juliet and Shakespear's Romeo and Juliet


Rofl. So it's been done both with Romeo and Juliet and that Shakespeare version, huh?

[HSaabedra]

No love for Othello '01? (Not the idiotic race war version known as "O")

[GreatNekoKoneko]

Now before you post, please follow these rules:
1. Keep in mind that I got up at 6:45 this morning to watch the movie.
2. I do not mean making the musical today. I went to see it on Wednesday, so it's pretty modern in those terms.
3. Before saying OH MY ****ING GOD WHAT A HORRIBLE IDEA! UR A LOSER!!!111, read the rest of the post.


Think about it. Christine could be some lonely band geek who finally gets a solo in the school drama/musical club after the popular cheerleader who ALWAYS gets it quits. Raoul could be a hot emo kid who she met as a kid before her dad died. The phantom could be a disfigured emo kid. Christine lives with the local ballet teacher and her daughter, who is also Christine's best friend, in the apartment over the ballet house.
And it could have modern music styles. It's been done before through West Side Story/Romeo and Juliet and Shakespear's Romeo and Juliet, why can't it work for PotO?
NOW you can call me crazy if you see fit. ^_^

...there's a reason why it's called high school musical. damn, EMO kid? is that the best you can come up with?

[master terrence]

You know, The Lion King was modeled after Hamlet.

[Suki]

...there's a reason why it's called high school musical. damn, EMO kid? is that the best you can come up with?

Apparently a gay man who dresses up in our clothes and wears mascara is sexy. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

Apparently a gay man who dresses up in our clothes and wears mascara is sexy. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD.

...apparently, guys from the 80's wore makeup too. but they made that look cool. Emo kids just make it look gay.

[MonkeyBoy0314]

I have to admit, that's a pretty good idea. I remember they did that to Romeo and Juliet, with guns and drivebys instead of swords and such, but they kept in the Shakesperean dialogue :lol:

[Haro!]

The only good modern version of something like that is Ian McKellan's Richard III. Sorry but any attempt to update a classic or even a trashy pulp novel like Phantom of the Opera rarely leads to anything but SUCK x infinity. Look at Rent.

Dude Rent was awesome... "We've all got AIDS!!!"

[Vaikyuko]

A modern version of Phantom of the Opera would definitely detract from the appeal, I think. A lot of stuff would have to be tweaked. I mean, an emo kid, as you say...in a school, as you say...having an undergroud lair? I think not. It just wouldn't work.

If you want more of a Phantom fix, go see it on Broadway, buy the DVD of the new film (2004, I think), and then start comparing, that'll keep you busy for a while. There's a couple of detailed changes, IIRC.

[Midoriko87]

Rofl. So it's been done both with Romeo and Juliet and that Shakespeare version, huh?

Those innocent eyes slit me up like a razor. :lol: Um, that's a Karamazov quote... you're still safe. BUT, you know you'd really benefit from a pair of Bifocals, kiddo... Follow me...

1) A typo on Alice Catherine's part (Judging from the rest of that line, probably not).

2) Seeing as how there's a Slash, she's comparing West Side Story to Romeo and Juliet. That'd make sense.

3) It's a "clever" trap. Lord knows we all REALLY wanna know the history behind Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet.

It's either 2 or 3. The Slash could point to 2... of course, I'd use parenthesis and place "Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet" first. And, if it's 3...well, that's rather douchebaggy, wouldn't you agree? And, of course, Smelly Saba, you'd still be correct.

ANYWHO, On-Topic... A disfigured emo kid? *Cough* My Opinion... I've never really like seriously read Phantom of the Opera (I could do it over Christmas (probably not)), but from what I've seen of the Musicals or whatnot, a big part of that story is setting. You take that story and move it to a High School Setting... Well, not all the cows, goats, rats, platypi in the World could make that much Cheese. Still, my Opinion.

[333jeffery]

There was a "modern" version of it called "Phantom of the Paradise". It was directed by Brian Depalma, back in 1974. Though that was more like the Rocky Horror Picture Show.....

[RPGQueen]

Raoul could be a hot emo kid who she met as a kid before her dad died.
^_^

Wait a tick, do hot emo guys really exist? I haven't seen one yet.

[Alice Catherine]

Right then. Lots of things to address. First, the emo kid business.

If I wrote this movie, I should like to be Christine. Therefore, what I think is hot and what Christine thinks is hot should be two different things. As long as he's rich, it should be OK. I know lots of emo kids that are good looking.

The slash was to compare West Side Story to Romeo and Juliet, yes. I should have made that more coherent.

As for the underground layer, you have never met Justin. Justin has dug a tunnel through his backyard about two blocks long.

[Old Ape Face]

I have to admit, that's a pretty good idea. I remember they did that to Romeo and Juliet, with guns and drivebys instead of swords and such, but they kept in the Shakesperean dialogue :lol:

Leonardo Decapreo is one of my favorite actors, and that version of Romeo and Juliet is a modern day replica, it's not supposed make fun or Shakespeare. it's supposed to represent what the story would be like in modern times. they did the same thing with Great Expectations: by Charles ****ens.

[Alice Catherine]

Which is what they should do with Phantom.

[Stafal-chan]

:unsure: woulda been nice had they changed the Shakepearean language...<_< i can't understand a word of that ****.....just started reading Hamlet in school ~_~

[Old Ape Face]

Which is what they should do with Phantom.

I can see that could be an interesting stunt, but instead of an opera they would use some something more modern for the them passably like an internet hacker or something like that.

[Old Ape Face]

:unsure: woulda been nice had they changed the Shakepearean language...<_< i can't understand a word of that ****.....just started reading Hamlet in school ~_~

Romeo is easier to understand,

Macbeth was a nightmare tool.

[Stafal-chan]

:P shakespeare in general is damn near impossible to understand <_< i hated Juilius Caesar...the only way i understood that was by asking my smart friend :lol:

[Soluzar]

As for the underground layer, you have never met Justin. Justin has dug a tunnel through his backyard about two blocks long.
What is this. Are you even serious? WHY?

[Alice Catherine]

What is this. Are you even serious? WHY?

I had to address this before Yukimura's comment.

Because he's an IDIOT. He's a GENIUS but he doesn't use his talents wisely. I guess it's to sneak out of his house to go to Eric's late night Halo parties.

...and to Yukimura.

I was thinking about it throughout most of the musical on Wednesday. I thought it would be someone who's messing with controls on a keyboard.

[goddessofanime]

You know, I read that as Justin had a drug tunnel. Yay antibiotics.

Anyway, I think a modern version could work; they could give it a similar treatment like they did with Gankutsu/Count of Monte Cristo and maybe mix in old things with newer things.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

... whoa. the sudden surge of ideas are somewhat similar to the ramblings of a young Shinji_Ikari. this pleases me. do continue, mein fraulein.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Dude Rent was awesome... "We've all got AIDS!!!"

The non Matt and Tray one does suck.


I have a wonderful idea for The Merchant of Venice starring 2 Pandas, Gene Shallot, a bowl of farina, and Grover Cleveland's pickled tumor.

[Leader Desslock]

...Phantom of the Opera is AWESOME.
It is NOT a trashy pulp novel.
I believe that back when it was originally published, it was in fact a pulp serial. It certainly reads like a dime store detective novel, and not all of that is due to the style of the author and/or the translation from French. The original is written like a detective novel.

I enjoyed it and I don't think it was bad, but ... it was what it was, you know? -_-;

[sasami-riyo]

I too was once obsessed with Phantom of the Opera. However I found it too short sighted and repetitive to be any good. Sure, I enjoyed the music, but the story line was so annoying. Girl mets boy. Girl falls in love with boy. girl mets random old guy. girl falls in love with him too. Girl creates her own drama because she takes too long to make up her mind. And Raoul was just plain annoying to begin with. It wasn't pulp fiction, it just wasn't one that a person could watch all that often, in my opinion.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

A modern version of anything is guranteed to suck ******* through a straw. And what's with all the emo? I'd shoot myself in the face before I had to watch a high school play where ten spoiled white kids cut themselves on stage while listening to "My Chemical Romance."

Why should it have to be so generic? Why not have characters that are interesting instead of "the cheerleader," "the emo," and the "band geek." While we're having characters who are nothing more than generic lables, where's the Angry Nintendo Nerd, the Jock, the Gangsta, the Stoner, the Goth and the preps?

And when was there ever a remake of West Side Story? I don't seem to remember a moive where Maria was a "fine booty ho" and the Sharks drove around in low riders with "pimped out hydrolics," can someone point me to this? I think I missed it.


Because he's an IDIOT. He's a GENIUS but he doesn't use his talents wisely. I guess it's to sneak out of his house to go to Eric's late night Halo parties.


CAn I get on these Halo parties? OH WAIT, here's an idea that's a million times better than emo phantom of the opera.

A halo musical, where at the end we find out Master Chief is Jack Bauer, but then we find out that Jack Bauer was the Doom Guy, who went on to be Marcus Fenix.

I have won.

[Leader Desslock]

And when was there ever a remake of West Side Story?
The best one I've seen was on The Animaniacs with The Goodfeathers dancing around a statue of Martin Scorcese, singing "I wanna perch on Scorcese's head...".

A halo musical, where at the end we find out Master Chief is Jack Bauer, but then we find out that Jack Bauer was the Doom Guy, who went on to be Marcus Fenix.
My brain threw a rod just trying to process that image.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Glad to see Desslock is old enough to remember http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_guy THE DOOM GUY.

[Old Ape Face]

there should be an Idion Musical :P

[Ikari Warrior]

A modern version of anything is guranteed to suck ******* through a straw. And what's with all the emo? I'd shoot myself in the face before I had to watch a high school play where ten spoiled white kids cut themselves on stage while listening to "My Chemical Romance."

:lol: win.

I will say this much: I think that since this is such a raw idea, generic characters are allowed. Upon more thought and elaboration of the idea, those generic characters can turn out quite dynamic. But when you have just a "what if/why not?" sort of scenario, I don't see the harm of generic characters.

That being said, tone down on the emo. Seriously. There's generic, and then there's redundant. If you're putting yourself in the role of christine, it'll be more like a phantom fanfic than anything remotely worthwhile.

My advice: if you REALLY wanna run with this idea, more power to you. Anything can be modernized if done so correctly. However, I would not call it "The Phantom of the Opera" nor associate it with the book/movie/musical. Instead, I'd use the Phantom of the Opera as a framework or a VERY loose outline to create something UNIQUE. Why recreate something and base it off the Phantom of the Opera, when you can be inspired by it, and create something truly magnificent.

Just my two cents.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

there should be an Idion Musical :P

Hi I'm on the INternet and I'm posting to tell you about how to spell Ideon. I usualy wouldn't be so distrubed, but the lack of knowing how to spell Ideon leads me to believe you have not watched Ideon yet.

[Leader Desslock]

....If you're putting yourself in the role of christine, it'll be more like a phantom fanfic...
Actually this was the big warning sign I saw. There is no such thing as a good self-insert fanfic. There just isn't.

[Haro!]

Actually this was the big warning sign I saw. There is no such thing as a good self-insert fanfic. There just isn't.

I think if I inserted myself in to say, Love Hina it would be great. Though it would become a hentai and lose all plot in the process. So yeah.... okay I agree with Desslock...

[Old Ape Face]

Hi I'm on the INternet and I'm posting to tell you about how to spell Ideon. I usualy wouldn't be so distrubed, but the lack of knowing how to spell Ideon leads me to believe you have not watched Ideon yet.


I'm atheist but i seem to spell that wrong often. :P

[goddessofanime]

I too was once obsessed with Phantom of the Opera. However I found it too short sighted and repetitive to be any good. Sure, I enjoyed the music, but the story line was so annoying. Girl mets boy. Girl falls in love with boy. girl mets random old guy. girl falls in love with him too. Girl creates her own drama because she takes too long to make up her mind. And Raoul was just plain annoying to begin with. It wasn't pulp fiction, it just wasn't one that a person could watch all that often, in my opinion.

But then again, if there was a modern version, the Phantom would have to look somewhat hot like Gerard Butler did. Ain't no one gonna wanna watch if the Phantom looks like the Cryptkeeper.

The novel is pulp fiction. Christine and Raoul don't do **** in the novel. Actually the Phantom comes across as a little more sympathetic in the novel.....and crazier than Gnarls Barkley. But they should've had the Persian in the movie.

And Raoul still f**king bugs either way. But in the movie.....oh my god THAT HAIR! He looked like a Hanson brother.

[seba_boi]

Why do they have to be emo?...

Phantom Of The Opera are one of only three novels I actually read... The Maltese Falcon and Dracula being the two others... I actually would like to see an anime version of POTO...

[Alice Catherine]

A modern version of anything is guranteed to suck ******* through a straw. And what's with all the emo? I'd shoot myself in the face before I had to watch a high school play where ten spoiled white kids cut themselves on stage while listening to "My Chemical Romance."
OK. You know what? Two emo kids isn't a lot. But if you'd like, I'll make Raoul a jock. *throws up for the second time today*

Why should it have to be so generic? Why not have characters that are interesting instead of "the cheerleader," "the emo," and the "band geek." While we're having characters who are nothing more than generic lables, where's the Angry Nintendo Nerd, the Jock, the Gangsta, the Stoner, the Goth and the preps?
Excuse me for living in a paper-doll like town that has 4100 white people, 33 black people, 10 Asians, 1 Native American woman, and 4 Muslims. We don't even have RACIAL diversity. Everyone's in a generic social group. Well, with the exception of my friends and me, and we're borderline Emo Nerds.

And when was there ever a remake of West Side Story? I don't seem to remember a moive where Maria was a "fine booty ho" and the Sharks drove around in low riders with "pimped out hydrolics," can someone point me to this? I think I missed it.
I said that West Side Story was a remake of Romeo and Juliet.



CAn I get on these Halo parties? OH WAIT, here's an idea that's a million times better than emo phantom of the opera.

A halo musical, where at the end we find out Master Chief is Jack Bauer, but then we find out that Jack Bauer was the Doom Guy, who went on to be Marcus Fenix.

I have won.

No. You can't. There's a stupid code and I'm not s'posed to tell.
Great idea, Prons.

[Hybrid Shock]

Leonardo Decapreo is one of my favorite actors, and that version of Romeo and Juliet is a modern day replica, it's not supposed make fun or Shakespeare. it's supposed to represent what the story would be like in modern times. they did the same thing with Great Expectations: by Charles ****ens.

Doesn't make it any less of a butcher to a wonderful piece of literature, or any less a crappy movie

no. just no. Completely wrong. Instead of remaking classic plays intop the 21st century, current playwrights should find new inventive ideas...

like Avenue Q, for example...

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Excuse me for living in a paper-doll like town that has 4100 white people, 33 black people, 10 Asians, 1 Native American woman, and 4 Muslims. We don't even have RACIAL diversity. Everyone's in a generic social group. Well, with the exception of my friends and me, and we're borderline Emo Nerds.

I never said anything about Black people, asians or "Native Americans" or "muslims," why mention it, do they make you uncomfortable? =O

I said that West Side Story was a remake of Romeo and Juliet.

I don't think there were any America Hating Cubans in Romeo and Juliet. That'd have made Romeo and Juliet a lot less of a snooze fest though.

No. You can't. There's a stupid code and I'm not s'posed to tell.


If you don't tell me you won't be getting the antidote.

For the poison you just drank

[Alice Catherine]

I never said anything about Black people, asians or "Native Americans" or "muslims," why mention it, do they make you uncomfortable? =O I'm just saying. We have absolutely NO diversity of ANY kind. I posted the stats to make a point.



I don't think there were any America Hating Cubans in Romeo and Juliet. That'd have made Romeo and Juliet a lot less of a snooze fest though.
Because they made it MODERN. Americans hating Cubans is the same thing as the two families in RaJ.



If you don't tell me you won't be getting the antidote.

For the poison you just drank
Oooh, so scared.

[Tenou]

Doesn't make it any less of a butcher to a wonderful piece of literature, or any less a crappy movie

no. just no. Completely wrong. Instead of remaking classic plays intop the 21st century, current playwrights should find new inventive ideas...

like Avenue Q, for example...

Chaucer wrote that the old stories were valuable, but needed to be retold in the vernacular to remain relevant, important, and entertaining. Shakespeare can be infinitely entertaining and the stories of human nature remain true. But for a lot of people, it's Greek. So I vote for She's the Man, what can I say, it made me laugh... and A Midsummer Night's Dream with Calista Flockhart with the bicycles and nudity.

But Phantom of the Opera... highly overrated, worse than those Bronte's.

[Alice Catherine]

I happen to like Phantom. I've seen several musicals with my mom, but Phantom always sticks out to me.

[Vaikyuko]

I happen to like Phantom. I've seen several musicals with my mom, but Phantom always sticks out to me.

But how many other plays have you seen, and how many times in comparison to how many times you've seen Phantom of the Opera? You are a bit fixated.

[Bernard_Monsha]

But Phantom of the Opera... highly overrated, worse than those Bronte's.

You have obviously never seen Wuthering Heights in semaphore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0vgZ2UNS54)

[HSaabedra]

You have obviously never seen Wuthering Heights in semaphore (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0vgZ2UNS54)

As usual Bernard, you win.

[Vaikyuko]

The funny thing is, I was watching that episode earlier today. XD

[Alice Catherine]

But how many other plays have you seen, and how many times in comparison to how many times you've seen Phantom of the Opera? You are a bit fixated.

Les Miz, Wicked, Guys and Dolls, The Sound of Music, Wizard of Oz in musical, Lion King, West Side Story.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Well ya know, remakes usualy aren't as good as the original except West Side Story because it had Cubans.

For example, listen to Blue Oyster Cult's song, "Astronomy," and then listen to the version Metallica did. You'll see what I mean.

[Samurai Drifter]

Wasn't there a Goosebumps book like that?

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Wasn't there a Goosebumps book like that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Of_The_Auditorium

[Old Ape Face]

Well ya know, remakes usualy aren't as good as the original except West Side Story because it had Cubans.

For example, listen to Blue Oyster Cult's song, "Astronomy," and then listen to the version Metallica did. You'll see what I mean.

listen to the Beatles Helter Skelter and then listen to the U2 version. i prefer the original.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Ouch, or worse, that guy from Tool's "emo" cover of John Lennon's imagine

[HSaabedra]

Ouch, or worse, that guy from Tool's "emo" cover of John Lennon's imagine

Maynard James Keenan=Massive FAIL

I prefer the cover of Mario Brothers Theme by Mr. Bungle as a good cover

[Old Ape Face]

i've heard perfect covers of Here comes the sun on howard stern. sounded almost exactly like the recording from abbey rode, the only change was the singer's voice. sam with strawberry fields forever.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Leonard Nimoy's cover of Proud Mary > all other covers.

[goddessofanime]

William Shatner's cover of Rocket Man and Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds pwns all.

[Alice Catherine]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Of_The_Auditorium

Well, mine's a LOT DIFFERENT.
First off, Brooke is a really crappy name. Zeke is the name of an old guy in Charlie Bone.
And it has no music. And it's a book. So it doesn't count.

[CapnTylor]

Everything sucks but me.

[Vaikyuko]

Well, mine's a LOT DIFFERENT.
First off, Brooke is a really crappy name. Zeke is the name of an old guy in Charlie Bone.
And it has no music. And it's a book. So it doesn't count.

So was the original Phantom of the Opera. Regardless, the Goosebumps book makes a decent amount of sense; the proposal you had does not, feasibly (at least not to us, and since we comprise part of a general audience to which the film studios attempt to appeal, it would most likely never be made).

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Ever watch Phantom of the Oprah Winfrey Show?

[goddessofanime]

Let's not forgetKISS Meets the Phantom of the Amusement Park

[Alice Catherine]

So was the original Phantom of the Opera.
I'm aware, but the proposal I had was based on the actual musical. Which is basically the same thing, only with real people and music.
Regardless, the Goosebumps book makes a decent amount of sense; the proposal you had does not, feasibly (at least not to us, and since we comprise part of a general audience to which the film studios attempt to appeal, it would most likely never be made).

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

What if I'm appealing to people like me, in the 13-17 age group who aren't into the High School Musical/Hannah Montana scene? Then my idea might actually be marketed. But since we really rarely see anything marketed to us in that scene, it probably wouldn't happen. (And NO, I'm not talking about the movie that was actually made on it.)
Can't help but dream, though. I'd curl my hair for the role of Christine.

[Leader Desslock]

I'm aware, but the proposal I had was based on the actual musical. Which is basically the same thing, only with real people and music.
It's been years since I read it (like... oh, I'd say a couple of decades?) but I wouldn't say "basically the same thing". The novel was very, very different in both tone and content.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

... wow. this thread still lives. +1 Vitality, +100 HP, -10 Coolness points (all for reaching 5 pages AND getting a rep from LD)

[Alice Catherine]

<_< 'Cause maybe people like musicals.

[Vaikyuko]

<_< 'Cause maybe people like musicals.

Some of us like musicals and logic. The two, thankfully, are not mutually exclusive.

[Alice Catherine]

I have LOGIC.
I also have HOPE.
I also DREAM.
I also think I have a chance for the lead in Footloose over the guy I like's perfect preppy girlfriend.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

I have LOGIC.
I also have HOPE.
I also DREAM.
I also think I have a chance for the lead in Footloose over the guy I like's perfect preppy girlfriend.

...ahhh! and so the plot thickens. hope? dream? logic? these things matter not to a Jedi.

[master terrence]

make an RPG (Phantom related of course)

you can make us reply in some kind of song format to :P

[Perperikon010]

Americans hating Cubans is the same thing as the two families in RaJ.

Uhhh...NO!

[Leader Desslock]

Sure it is! You just have to imagine that the Montague family has about 300 million people in it, while the Capulets number 11 million or so. Let Kofi Annan play the part of the Prince of Verona, and it's totally the same thing as Romeo and Juliet. Can't tell them apart. :rolleyes:

'Cause maybe people like musicals...
I have LOGIC.
I also have HOPE.
I also DREAM.
I like musicals, and I liked The Phantom Of The Opera specifically. That's why I don't think it should be remade. They already got it right.

If you really want a good adaptation, read Maskerade, by Terry Prachett.

[Old Ape Face]

they should make an anime Phantom of the Opera. i think if they made good artwork for it the story would pop out nicely.

[Holy Knight]

Seems to me that this venture is bound to fail since the context is too radically different. Kids these days just don't go to theatres. You could try a "Phantom of the Movie Theatre", but that would become a comedy.

Romeo and Juliet was adapted to the near future with Leonardo Di Caprio staring as main character, though I have to say the film was an abject failure. You cannot use the same language they used then and use it for present-time, that's what I mean by out of context.

Another reason why this wouldn't work is because "Phantom of the Opera" is a play within a play. It works because it's setting is a theatre and the play itself is made for theatre. Now, if you could adapt THIS to modern-day settings, I believe it could be done. However, I don't know of any place where people gather that would have the same effect or impact as the play has as it's basically made for theatre.

Therefore, this is a completely impossible venture you're making if you want to stay faithful to the spirit of the original. Our times do not have the Victorian-era feel of chilly foreshadowing this play had. Current language is too loose and aloof to convey the same precipitations of anticipation the original had.

[Perperikon010]

Sure it is! You just have to imagine that the Montague family has about 300 million people in it, while the Capulets number 11 million or so. Let Kofi Annan play the part of the Prince of Verona, and it's totally the same thing as Romeo and Juliet. Can't tell them apart. :rolleyes:


I like musicals, and I liked The Phantom Of The Opera specifically. That's why I don't think it should be remade. They already got it right.

If you really want a good adaptation, read Maskerade, by Terry Prachett.

Ah, well. When you put it that way Leader D. ...

I agree with you on Maskerade though - bloody brilliant! Greebo is an absolutely wicked creation.^_^

[Bernard_Monsha]

I like musicals, and I liked The Phantom Of The Opera specifically. That's why I don't think it should be remade. They already got it right.


Pfft, I know you secretly want a ballet of Cowboy Bebop composed by Toto.


I am still holding out for Planet of the Apes the musical.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

The Evil Dead Musical is all you need.

[Alice Catherine]

I agree with you on Maskerade though - bloody brilliant! Greebo is an absolutely wicked creation.^_^

All right. I'll get it for Christmas. Or get a job.

[goddessofanime]

Pfft, I know you secretly want a ballet of Cowboy Bebop composed by Toto.


I am still holding out for Planet of the Apes the musical.

Didn't The Simpsons cover that?