Official Final Fantasy XII Thread

[Rahxephon91]

http://redscarlet.paragonsigma.com/ff12title.png
Well in 7 more days Final Fantasy XII will be here and I feel its time we make an official thread because we all know this game is going to get a lot of talk.

FFXII was announced a long time ago. So lets let back on how it all began..
http://www.the-magicbox.com/game092503k.htm
http://www.the-magicbox.com/game111303a.shtml

The Story

Our story takes place in a world called “Ivalice,” in an age when magic was commonplace and airships plied the skies – the Archadian Empire, seeking to strengthen its base of power, had been invading and subjugating its neighboring lands one by one—a fate which befell the small Kingdom of Dalmasca. Archadia’s invasion and the subsequent death of the Dalmascan king prompted the Princess Ashe, the sole surviving heir to the Dalmascan throne, to take up arms against the invaders.
In her struggle to oust the occupying Archadian forces and restore freedom to her people, Ashe must watch as many of her allies pay the blood price for that freedom. Though tempted to abandon all hope in the face of the Empire’s might, her determination keeps her from succumbing before what would seem to be inevitable defeat. Then she meets Vaan, an urchin from the Dalmascan capital of Rabanastre. Vaan dreams of one day becoming a sky pirate, escaping the Empire on his airship. Vaan, Ashe, Vaan’s friend Penelo, the sky pirate Balthier, his partner Fran and many more are on an adventure through Ivalice that traces the mysteries behind the Archadian Empire’s invasion.


The Characters
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a2/Ff12cast.jpg

Vaan (ヴァン Van) is an orphaned Hume street urchin who lost his parents in a plague when he was 12 years old and his only brother Reks 2 years after the Archadian Invasion of Dalmasca. He makes a living as Migelo's assistant, helping to distribute food rations to the Archadian soldiers, while stealing some for his own in the process. He is a cheerful and energetic and among his friends he is considered their leader. Vaan always dreams of someday becoming a sky pirate in command of his own airship.

Ashelia B'nargin Dalmasca (アーシェ Āshe) is a determined and independent 19-year-old Hume princess fighting to liberate her kingdom, Dalmasca, from the Archadian Empire. In addition to being the leader of the Dalmascan resistance movement, she is the sole heir to the throne, her father and eight brothers having been killed during the Archadian invasion.

Balthier Bunanza (バルフレア Barufurea) is a 22-year-old Hume sky pirate who pilots a small airship around the skies of Ivalice. He and his companion, Fran, prefer to remain outside of the war between the kingdoms of Ivalice.

Basch fon Ronsenberg (バッシュ Basshu) is a 36-year-old Hume who formerly served as a general in the Dalmascan army.

Fran (フラン Furan) is a member of the rabbit-like Viera race and Balthier's partner aboard his airship. Although her preferred weapon is the bow and arrow, she is also quite competent with a variety of other weapons and is notably proficient in grappling and fencing. Fran is the only non-Hume (human) character in the main cast.

Penelo (パンネロ Pannero) is a Hume orphan who works as a dancer in a Rabanastre bazaar. She learned martial arts from her now-deceased older brother, a soldier, and though small in stature, she is perfectly capable of handling herself in "sticky" situations. She has known Vaan since childhood, and seems to secretly have romantic feelings towards him.

Vayne Cardas Solidor (ヴェイン Vein) is the 27-year-old crown prince of Archadia and first in line to inherit the throne from his father, Emperor Gramis. Though he wields a considerable amount of authority, Vayne does not abuse his power; rather, he makes an effort to foster a positive relationship with the conquered Dalmascans and insists that the welfare of the people is his foremost concern.

Larsa Ferrinas Solidor (ラーサー Rāsā) is the younger brother of Vayne Solidor and the fourth son of Gramis, eleventh emperor of Archadia. He is second in line to succeed Gramis as emperor and tries hard to gain the respect of his father and older brother.

Archadian Judges-Zargabaath, Bergan, Gabranth, Ghis and Drace.
From Wiki

[Rahxephon91]

Game Features

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/270/459841_20060928_screen012.jpg
Final Fantasy 12 is an adventurous change of course. Many aspects of the series have been altered, so the game is a pretty different experience from what you may expect with another entry into the Final Fantasy series.

The battle system is different from most of the games in the series. Random battles do not exist in this game. For more info about the Gambit System, look below. The party (from 1-3 characters, changeable almost at any time to who you want in the battle party) is displayed as separate characters on field maps and dungeons (not in towns), and enemies are visible. Accompanying these enemies is an aggro meter, taken from FF11.

Enemies and some NPC's have a colored meter over them (and a life bar), representing their aggressiveness. Green means the object is at peace, and will not currently attack you. If you do something that annoys the object (cast a spell or sometimes attack a nearby enemy), you will then warrant that object's attention.

Be careful! There can be some badguys that you do not want to be angered. A red bar means that the enemy will attack you on sight. You can run away and try to escape from enemies until they are a distinct distance away from the originating spot, and they will return to where they first were. Sometimes you can bump into a rare monster.

Another new addition to the series is the Chain System. Enemies usually drop items when defeated, and the player is rewarded with larger quantities of items and more types of items if a chain is kept. There are 4 levels of chains, with each one giving more items and other helpful little bonuses. The amount of kills in a row to upgrade a change, as far as I know, is random. There does not seem to be an exact amount, or even range. As long as you kill the same type of monster without killing a different type, do not use a Save Crystal, nor go to a town, you can build up big chains. Chains do not seem to affect experience nor LP. Building up big chains nets the player a lot more items to sell. The items you get are useful to sell for money and get special deals at shops to buy.

You can choose between Active and Wait modes for battles. Active mode is faster, but the game keeps going (enemies and allies) while you are selecting the actions. Wait mode is less hectic, but a bit easier as well. You can also adjust the battle speed to have actions happen faster between the party and enemies.

Abilities and being able to equip new weapons and armor are learned via the License Board. Looking like a gigantic checker board, this is where you get the ability to equip new weapons, armor, accessories, learn new spells and skills (buyable from shops), and get some status boosts and innate abilities.

The way the License Board works is pretty simple. You unlock a 'square' on the board with License Points (gained from killing enemies), and the neighboring squares become buyable. This is how you open up more of the board. The boards are the same for every character, the path they go is decided upon by the player.

In order to equip a new weapon, you must have the weapon in your possession and have the square unlocked on the License Board to be able to equip it. Once you buy a square, you know exactly what it does. Beforehand, you are given a clue as to what kind of square it is (new weapon, new spell, etc), but after buying it you know exactly what you can now do.

The Gambit System is a new approach at acting in battles. It is completely optional to use them. The way it works is you get some slots (more are buyable on the License Board), and you can put some 'if, then' statements for the characters to follow automatically. To get more statements and results, you can buy them at Gambit Shops in towns and also find some in pots/barrels/chests scattered throughout the game (the contents are pretty random it seems, except for some special cases).

Early on, your options are limited (such as 'HP < 30%'), but as you progress in the game you can set more intricate Gambits (such as 'enemy weak against fire'). This makes battles flow faster with less time to input commands. You can interrupt a gambit at any time (before an action begins to happen) and tell any character in the battle party to do something else. You can switch from the party leader to another character in the party without going into a menu screen.

A very large sidequest to the game are the many mob hunts in the game. The way they work is not complicated, but some of the mobs can be tricky to find. Bars and a special building offer new bounties to look for throughout the game. You look at the poster, accept it, then find the NPC that wants the monster dead. Find and defeat the monster, then return to the NPC to get various prizes, such as gil, items, and equipment. There are some really nice rewards for doing some of the bounties, and fans of earlier games in the series will see some familiar foes. Bounties are completely optional and give good reasons to explore the many areas of the game thoroughly.

Speaking of which, the game doesn't have an 'overworld map' in the typical sense of the word. Towns, fields, dungeons, etc are all expansive 'zones' taking up several smaller areas that can take 20 minutes to explore fully. If you enjoy exploring, you will likely enjoy the large areas that make up the 'overworld'. The randomized locations and contents (for the majority) of pots sprinkled in zones adds to the desire to explore and see just what goodies are hidden inside. Just pay attention to your clock if you have to go at a certain time, it can be easy to get lost and let hours pass by unknowingly.

Another feature of the zones are that some experience physical changes (usually by a change in the weather). Sometimes its dry, other times the same zone can have a torrential rainstorm going on, which changes that zone's appearance (and enemies there). You can also do different things in the different version of some zones, including new parts of the zone only accessible during that different weather period.

Most zones have multiple places they lead to, so there are different ways to get to different parts of neighboring zones. Shortcuts can be found from different areas to other areas. This also lets you try to tempt the fates and go to some zones early and fight the monsters there. Save your game first, though. If areas seem too large to go through again, most of the zones have an orange Save Crystal called a Teleport Crystal. You can warp from a Teleport Crystal to another one you've already been to, so if you have to go back to an area way far away, you do not need to trek all the way back to that area.

For those looking for this game's "Omnislash", super attacks are called Mist Knacks/Quickenings. The way they work are as a particular square on the board, you can unlock them (up to 3 per character). Once a character unlocks a Mist Knack/Quickening square on the board, no one else can unlock it. You can chain them between characters that have them, giving a strong attack (plus a bonus elemental hit afterward). There is more to these than said above.

Along with these are summons, which work quite differently from previous games in the series with them.

Lastly, a feature that was added from (and expanded upon) FFX-2 is the ability to skip cutscenes and FMV's. So yes, if you want to know, you can do so at any time from a cutscene or FMV.

Most of the game was designed by Yasumi Matsuno, of Tactics Ogre, Vagrant Story, and FF Tactics fame. Supposedly, Kawazu (SaGa series, Final Fantasy 2) took the reigns after Matsuno's departure.

Hitoshi Sakimoto (Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter, FF Tactics, Gradius 5, Tactics Ogre, Ogre Battle, Vagrant Story, and others) created the music for this game, with a really popular rendition of the main Final Fantasy theme.

The game supports 16:9 and 480i.

It may not be known at this time how cutscenes and fmv's are treated, but in the Japanese version, both cutscenes and fmv's were in widescreen mode.
There are also added cutscenes in the US version that were not in the Japanese version


From NeoGaf.com

[Rahxephon91]

The Release
Final Fantasy XII will be out on the 31st(of Oct). Some Gamestops and Ebgames are doing a midnight release.

There are 2 versions of the game:

The Regular Edition-
http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/281437b.jpg

The Collectors Edition-Only Avaliable at Gamestop and Ebgames-
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/ffxii/ffxii_casedetail.jpg
Whats in the CE?-
The Final Fantasy XII Collector's Edition will be packaged in a metal case and includes a Collector's DVD with the following contents:

* Developer's Interviews
* History of Final Fantasy featurettes
* Final Fantasy XII U.S. Trailers
* Final Fantasy XII Japan Trailers
* Final Fantasy Art Gallery

Regular-$49.99(Supposedly Circuit City will have it for $37.99 next week)
Limited-$59.99

Media

45 mins of Gameplay (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7659119181089138579&q=%22red+scarlet%22)
Final Fantasy XII English Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=3840)
IGN's Final Fantasy XII Page (http://ps2.ign.com/objects/488/488222.html)
Gametrailers' Final Fantasy XII Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=1684)
Gamespot's Final Fantasy XII Page (http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/finalfantasy12/index.html)
Final Fantasy XII US Commercial (http://youtube.com/watch?v=rcMNmuGu58M)

http://www.just-rpg.com/upload/pics/dir23/12logo.jpg
]It's almost here!!!![/SIZE]

of course I would spell official wrong. Can a mod fix that?

[Sendo Takeshi]

Edit your post. You should be able to insert the 'i' in 'Official'.

Anyway, here's hoping it's good. I reserved the SE last week. So far the Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin SE craps on this in terms of extras.

Also, I hope this game ressurrects my love for Square because FFX left a horrible taste in my mouth. The Gambit system seems intriguing. And since the battles are in real-time that's a pretty good bonus.

[ryushe]

To be honest I don't have very high expectations for FFXII. It should probably stay that way to, I would hate for it to be squashed like what happened to FFX.

[Kstyle]

Will the collector's edition of FFXII be available in Europe to?

[Sendo Takeshi]

Will the collector's edition of FFXII be available in Europe to?


No. Sony hates Europeans. And thanks to Sony, SqueEnix does as well.

[germanturkey]

well, i'll buy it the first day out... LE of course

[MightyDustLoop]

To be honest I don't have very high expectations for FFXII. It should probably stay that way to, I would hate for it to be squashed like what happened to FFX.

I was in the same boat after X and XI, and to tell you the truth, its far better than I could've hoped. But that's mostly a result of it being different than I expected, and me liking those differences. I'm still ambivalent to the DS FF on the horizon as well, but this entry is certainly making me reevaluate my view of the series.

In the end, XII isn't for everybody. Its certainly going to alienate a lot of fans. But fans who have been alienated from the series with last couple entries need to come back and give it a try. Its just....different. With the good part being that there's tons of gameplay here, so if it clicks, its one of those games that it really doesn't matter whether you spend $20 or $60, because when you start going above 100 hours, you realize you've more than gotten your money's worth either way.

Of course, to reach that hurdle, you'd have to be enjoying it in the first place...

[crow-kun]

I still don't see what was wrong with FFX besides being linear in the path you took it was still a good game.

[HitokiriShadow]

I'm eagerly anticipating this game. I need to hurry up and beat Tales of the Abyss before it comes out.

I think the battle system will work out alright, though I can't say any more about it until I've actually played it. The story looks to be pretty good.

My main complaint at this point is, from what I've heard, the treasure chests are somewhat random. Although that was from the same magazine that said sidequests where almost non-existant outside of the Poaching/Hunting. Can anyone confirm the randomized chests?

[Fukki]

Yea it's random. If you're looking for a particular chest, sometimes you'll have to re-enter the area a couple of times hoping it shows up (for treasure chests you need to go 3 maps away for the chests to respawn). And sometimes the chest doesn't even contain the item you want since that's random too <_<

[Danju]

I'm eagerly anticipating this game. I need to hurry up and beat Tales of the Abyss before it comes out.
Same. I haven't had nearly as much time as I'd hoped for to play Abyss. I think I'm nearing the end, though, but I thought the same thing 10 hours of gameplay ago.

[HitokiriShadow]

Yea it's random. If you're looking for a particular chest, sometimes you'll have to re-enter the area a couple of times hoping it shows up (for treasure chests you need to go 3 maps away for the chests to respawn). And sometimes the chest doesn't even contain the item you want since that's random too <_<

ARg, thats stupid. I only heard about the content being randomized. Randomizing the existence of the chest itself is even worse.

Same. I haven't had nearly as much time as I'd hoped for to play Abyss. I think I'm nearing the end, though, but I thought the same thing 10 hours of gameplay ago.

I remember thinking "Wait, its not over yet?" several times towards the end of Symphonia.

[MightyDustLoop]

ARg, thats stupid. I only heard about the content being randomized. Randomizing the existence of the chest itself is even worse.



I certainly agree with this flaw. If they want to make it harder to find, fine with me. But if I already beat some fairly difficult boss (....wall....), just give me the damn treasure for it. It doesn't need to be hard. I had to pause, reset, and trek the journey down those two long halls in an attempt to get what I believe was called a demonsbane sword like twenty times. That sword owns for that point in the game though. Still totally worth it, but still total bs.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Yeah, I've been hearing a lot of bad things about the random treasure chest ordeal. Sounds....whats the word I'm looking for......ah....crappy. Either way, I'll still the game a shot. But that will ruin half the fun because there is really no point in beating a difficult boss and then having to trek ALL the way back to where you left off.

Also, Square needs to get on the mark and make a TRUE FFT sequel. After all, it's the best FF game of the Playstation era. I haven't had fun with a FF game in, like, 5 years.

[Fukki]

Well, treasure chests that contain normal loot are usually there most of the time (all the time?). It's the ones that contain rare equipments that you'll have the most trouble with getting it to appear if you're not as lucky. Like there's this ultimate spear in the game called Strongest Halberd... the chance of the chest appearing is 1/10 and for the chest to contain that rare spear is 1/10 too. So unless you're hunting for a certain equip, the treasure chests won't bother you that much. But yea it's still crappy :P

[_jwb388_]

Of course the Limited Edition Guide is Fricking gorgeous.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4670918&postcount=1024

[Danju]

Well, treasure chests that contain normal loot are usually there most of the time (all the time?). It's the ones that contain rare equipments that you'll have the most trouble with getting it to appear if you're not as lucky. Like there's this ultimate spear in the game called Strongest Halberd... the chance of the chest appearing is 1/10 and for the chest to contain that rare spear is 1/10 too. So unless you're hunting for a certain equip, the treasure chests won't bother you that much. But yea it's still crappy :P
<_< That's really dumb. I don't want to reset 100 times to get a damn Spear. Oh well, I'm still looking forward to FFXII. I'm actually kind of regretting not importing it earlier, but oh well I preodered the Collector's Edition and it's beautiful.

[germanturkey]

wow... its just like the ffx2 le guide.. i'll buy it!! so in total, i'll probably spend like 100 bucks on this game...

[ryushe]

Of course the Limited Edition Guide is Fricking gorgeous.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4670918&postcount=1024
Cool, To bad I don't buy guides. Looks like a Artbook to.

[MightyDustLoop]

Cool, To bad I don't buy guides. Looks like a Artbook to.

Well, this game has quite a bit of detail to it. And you can take down some fairly overpowered monsters in mob hunts at a younger level if you have an idea of its weaknesses and a decent strategy.

I've had to refer to faqs pretty frequently, wanting to know exactly what screen of the terrain to find monsters in mob hunts and such. You do quite a bit of running around as is in the game, so it's nice not to waste too much time if you're plowing through an area where baddies don't give you much experience to find your "mark".

IOW, this is no KHII. You'll probably want to refer to a FAQ should you want any of the good stuff. It's handy having a guide just not to have to go back to a computer and search forums for absolutely everything. You'll see treasure chests off the beaten track and wonder if it should have given you something better than "26 gil", and with that guide, hopefully I'll know then and there it drops some rare sword. I spent quite a bit of time today just plundering chests in Barheim for random equipment, and it sucks enough knowing exactly what you're looking for. Don't want to guess and have to reset, retry on every ambiguous chest in the game. Then you've got yourself a 1000 hour game.

I've got the LE's of both the game and guide fully preordered. Haven't gotten the call from EBgames though, so I guess I pick it up at the same time as the game. It'll actually be the first strategy guide I've bought in years. I usually don't like RPGs that intensive that I need one, but this game is worth it. No joke.

[HitokiriShadow]

Of course the Limited Edition Guide is Fricking gorgeous.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4670918&postcount=1024

Yeah, that's awesome. Considering that this looks to be a monster of a game, that strategy guide will surely be useful (unlike, say, KHII, for which it was pretty useless). I pre-ordered the LE guide because the guy at GameStop said it will probably be tough to find. Whether that turns out to be true or not, I've got my copy guaranteed either way.

Damn, I really need to finish Tales of the Abyss by Wednesday... I'm currently at Sherinden working on getting the airship. About how far through the game am I? Based on Symphonia, I'm guessing I'm about 14 to 1/3 of the way through.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Best Combat system of an yFF game yet.

[_jwb388_]

I bought my guide from walmart.com for 20 bucks.

[Holy Knight]

By the way, does the game have subtitles? I'm hard of hearing, so I was wondering if the game had these. Considering the amount of text there usually is in RPG's, I'm guessing there is a high probability that there are subtitles. However, I don't own the game yet, so I'd like to know.

[_jwb388_]

I'm pretty sure the game has subtitles.

[Westlo]

It does have subtitles.

[Undrave]

A Viera! cool! Like in FFTA! And I even saw Bangaas in the trailer (plus the Ivalice Judges return!) No Nu Mou or Moogles though... I can understand the Moogles since they wouldn't be very serious but a Bangaa in the main cast would have been neat.

[Rahxephon91]

Pictures of the regular version (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4681679&postcount=1075)
Pictures of the CE (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4689587&postcount=1134)

[gameoffreak8]

I bought Final Fantasy XII Limited Edition Guide for $17.73 in my local GameStop today.

The Final Fantasy XII Collection's Edition looks nice.

[kittynboi]

I love that metallic case. It reminds me of something from like the 1800s.

[germanturkey]

18 bucks? man, i'm so checking my gamestop when i get the chance

[gameoffreak8]

18 bucks? man, i'm so checking my gamestop when i get the chance
Oh, actually, I sell some non-anime DVDs and get $8.00 credits and put it on the EB Edge card and I notice 20% off sale when you buy the game. I show the receipt of the FF XII game to the worker.
Here is my receipt said:
Final Fantasy XII LE guide book $29.99
Disc: $6.00 companion Book Discount
SubTotal = $ 23.99
Tax = $1.74
Total = $25.73
I used EB Edge card which it have $8.00.
New Total = $17.73

[germanturkey]

oh.. but how do you have a receipt for the game already?... still, 30 bucks isn't that much

[gameoffreak8]

oh.. but how do you have a receipt for the game already?... still, 30 bucks isn't that much
Well, I have about $20-$25 so it's not enough. That's why I have to sell few DVDs. Besides, my local GameStop have two only.
For receipt, it's for reserve that game. You need to prove to the worker with the receipt that you did reserve that game and you will get 20% off sale on the book; otherwise, you didn't reserve the FF XII game and you have to pay about $32 on FF XII LE guide book.

But if you want to buy the game and guide book together and you will get 20% off sale on that guide book anyway. ^_^

[demon_arian]

I've played the english version already. It's pretty interesting so far.

[Tidusauron12]

I can't wait! I'm getting it like, right now! (I decided not to order it.)

[Jae Hoon]

I can't wait! I'm getting it like, right now! (I decided not to order it.)


You need to quit doing that, the only reason for that is they are now doing it differently. The way they ship now is if you didnt pre order it, you probably arent getting on. They now usually ship 1 to 3 extra copies and thats it. Although that wont affect FF 12 with 90 percent of the titles it does.

[Amuro]

I was hoping to recieve a clarification..

Is the Collector's Edition only available as a pre-order, or will it be available in stores as well?

[Rahxephon91]

I was hoping to recieve a clarification..

Is the Collector's Edition only available as a pre-order, or will it be available in stores as well?
Some people are saying that if you don't pre-order you may have a hard time getting it. Because first Gamestop/Ebgames will not sell the CE until pre-orders are covered and maybe Square will only ship a few extra ones. Again this is only speculation.

[Jae Hoon]

Some people are saying that if you don't pre-order you may have a hard time getting it. Because first Gamestop/Ebgames will not sell the CE until pre-orders are covered and maybe Square will only ship a few extra ones. Again this is only speculation.


It is more then speculation, we got 30 here and only like 3 will be for sale right now.

[Shiroiyuki]

Do you know what the retail value will be on the games that are not pre-ordered, but sold in the store on the shelves? I want to know how much this game will put me back for the month ^_^.

If I can find a copy for sale that is (stupid me, I never remember to pre-order).

[germanturkey]

i never preorder, yet i've managed to get the last 2 real ff's on release day...

CE is 60 bucks, normal is 50

[Lacan]

Will I be out of luck if I order the regular version on November 1st? Or will at least the regular 50 dollar version still be in stock?

[Rahxephon91]

It is more then speculation, we got 30 here and only like 3 will be for sale right now.
I have a question. How do you guys apply tax? I put $20 on my pre-order. Do you guys apply tax to the $40 I still have to pay or do you apply the tax as if it was $60.

Sorry this is the first time I have ever pre-ordered a game.

[germanturkey]

9.5 from IGN... pretty sweet

[gameoffreak8]

Some people are saying that if you don't pre-order you may have a hard time getting it. Because first Gamestop/Ebgames will not sell the CE until pre-orders are covered and maybe Square will only ship a few extra ones. Again this is only speculation.

Same on Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children with the bonus disc.

[Bezerker]

I have a question. How do you guys apply tax? I put $20 on my pre-order. Do you guys apply tax to the $40 I still have to pay or do you apply the tax as if it was $60.

Sorry this is the first time I have ever pre-ordered a game.

Tax would probably still be whatever your state charges on $60. Your purchase is only tax free if you use store credit from trades.

[MightyDustLoop]

I bought Final Fantasy XII Limited Edition Guide for $17.73 in my local GameStop today.

The Final Fantasy XII Collection's Edition looks nice.

Got mine today as well. Got Vaan on the cover :( Only one I DIDN'T want. I don't dislike him at all. Significantly less annoying than Tidus. But I ****ing hate his character design. And there it is, staring me in the face.

Can't wait to pick up my LE game regardless. That's about $90 or so after tax for a game I'm getting pretty close to finishing, but it deserves it. Damn thing has kept me busy for 80 hours already, so it's worth far more.

[Jae Hoon]

I have a question. How do you guys apply tax? I put $20 on my pre-order. Do you guys apply tax to the $40 I still have to pay or do you apply the tax as if it was $60.

Sorry this is the first time I have ever pre-ordered a game.


Tax is applied normally for the whole 60 dollar product. It is already set when you preorder it.

[Tidusauron12]

You need to quit doing that, the only reason for that is they are now doing it differently. The way they ship now is if you didnt pre order it, you probably arent getting on. They now usually ship 1 to 3 extra copies and thats it. Although that wont affect FF 12 with 90 percent of the titles it does.

What are you talking about?

I'm buying it in the first store I see it in, screw the costs!!!

[gameoffreak8]

I peek few pages on the book and it's not bad to me. I heard some people don't like Mist for some reason.
For hiddens Bosses:
I am like omg when I see hidden bosses have very LOTS of HP. :blink:
Got mine today as well. Got Vaan on the cover :( Only one I DIDN'T want. I don't dislike him at all. Significantly less annoying than Tidus. But I ****ing hate his character design. And there it is, staring me in the face.
I got Basch on the cover. :) I hope to get Ashe on the cover.

[Amuro]

What are you talking about?
I think he was advising you to start pre-ordering games because stores supposedly only order enough copies to fill the pre-orders.

*shrug* I'm just going to stop by Circuit City, which is selling it for $37 during launch week, and hope that they have it..

[ryushe]

I'm picking this up this Wednesday right before work (Gotta pick up my check to pay off this preorder), so when I get home it's FFXII TIME!!!!

[MightyDustLoop]

I peek few pages on the book and it's not bad to me. I heard some people don't like Mist for some reason.
For hiddens Bosses:
I am like omg when I see hidden bosses have very LOTS of HP. :blink:

I got Basch on the cover. :) I hope to get Ashe on the cover.

Ah, the residential bad ***. If you have to get a guy, can't go wrong with that one.

Oh, and in my IMHO, Mist Knacks are AWESOME. They're this games version of limit breaks, but they're so much more interactive than the strandard limit break. I look forward to trying to get as high a combo as possible each time I use one, and will finish a boss or mob hunt with one even when I don't have to. Unfortunately, I think my highest is 19 thus far, but I hope to hit 30.

OTOH, the summons, which also take entire MP bars, I never use unless I have to. If I'm in trouble, it just never helps having only one person to cure, so summons feel totally useless in this game to me. Still as cool as always. But just don't feel very useful.

[crow-kun]

I hear the mist knacks and the summons aren't worth the time to get especially the summons they don't make that big of a difference compared to the ones in the other games.

On a side note 13 hours 36 minutes and 18 seconds until I have my game!!! :)

[kittynboi]

After summons being either a major plot point, the most powerful attacks, or both for so many games in the series, I'm fine with them taking a backseat in both areas this time around.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Usually my Gamestop gets it's games shipped in on a Thursday. For once, they will be on time and actually release a game on a *gasp* Tuesday. Thankfully I'm just about done with Xmen Legends 2 so I can get started on FF12 immediately.

[crow-kun]

After summons being either a major plot point, the most powerful attacks, or both for so many games in the series, I'm fine with them taking a backseat in both areas this time around.Not if I'm working my *** off to get them. It's like getting the most rarest sword in a game and is completely useless.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

... well. tomorrows the day. i've played the demo in some shops, and i hope that the rest of tha game will be equally as entertaining.

...and here's to understanding the gambit system. good luck. and may the force be with you.

[kittynboi]

Not if I'm working my *** off to get them. It's like getting the most rarest sword in a game and is completely useless.

Well, I suppose theres something to be said for being a completist for its own sake.

[demon_arian]

I just finished it today. Woooo... I kinda rushed through. I dunno if I want to get collectors copy from the store now.

[Levon]

I hear the mist knacks and the summons aren't worth the time to get especially the summons they don't make that big of a difference compared to the ones in the other games.

On a side note 13 hours 36 minutes and 18 seconds until I have my game!!! :)

Nope, the summons are pretty useless besides looking neat in a battle but the mist knacks are very powerful, in fact too powerful.

[ryushe]

Well I'm about to pick up my game in a little bit, but anyone else have any anxiety towards this FF. What I mean is, will it live up to the hype that surrounded it? I've heard it's basically more a political story than a romance one with the main group of characters development being non existent. I don't know I just hope I'm over thinking this. I love a good character driven Final Fantasy, no RPG.

Edit:
9.5 from IGN... pretty sweet
And a 8.0 from Gametrailers... :(

[demon_arian]

And a 8.0 from Gametrailers... :(

Yeah, it's more of an 8.0 than a 9.5

[Sendo Takeshi]

As long as it has the Final Fantasy name on it IGN will give it a high score. The only review I ever read where they actually played the game was Justice League Heroes.

Just got my copy right now. I was expecting a better looking tin. Something that was a little more on the scale of tin. It feels like plastic. It looks like crap. Thank you SquEnix, you successfully conned me and took my money. Never again.

Here's hoping the DVD doesn't put me to sleep.

[gameoffreak8]

Edit:

And a 8.0 from Gametrailers... :(

I have a feeling Gamespot put 9.4 score on FFXII.

[ryushe]

^ Me too. That's why I only like going to game trailers, They don't sugarcoat anything. If a game has any shortcomings your sure to find out, Plus they have video reviews :P I dislike reading about a game I wanna get, I'd rather watch about it.

[crow-kun]

I've been killed by three different monsters since I started playing. :P

[Danju]

I've been killed by three different monsters since I started playing. :P
Yeah, it seems they really encourage fleeing. I've always been one to want to obliterate every monster I can, so things haven't been going very well... -_-; I just got my first Game Over a second ago trying to plow my way through the damn Barheim Passage. I really need a healer...:( Though I suppose I could make someone a healer right now.

[Levon]

I almost never flee. The only times I'v fleed was when by mistake I'd go into an area where the monsters are too strong for me at the time.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...yay. playing right now. i dont have a life. at least the VO were decent.

[Sendo Takeshi]

So far FFX has been erased from my memory. I'm actually enjoying this a lot more than FFX. And the voice acting is much better.

[Rahxephon91]

So far Final Fantasy XII has been amazing. Not better then FFX but man is this game great. The gameplay has been awesome. I've been using the gambits to a bare minimum, making the commands myself. The story so far has pulled me into it and man the graphics are awesome.

I'm pass the area where you see the first Judge.

[crow-kun]

So far Final Fantasy XII has been amazing. Not better then FFX but man is this game great. The gameplay has been awesome. I've been using the gambits to a bare minimum, making the commands myself. The story so far has pulled me into it and man the graphics are awesome.

I'm pass the area where you see the first Judge.The part where you fight the Queen Mimic? Thats where I am. The fight was easy at first and then 3/4 through it's health and it started using special attacks cheap *****. :lol:

[kittynboi]

I haven't had a game over yet.

But I'm just that good.

[gameoffreak8]

Gamespot give 9.0 score on Final Fantasy XII.

I also haven't had a game over yet. The graphics and gameplay are freakin awesome. The story is so amazing. It's make me play more, unfortunately, I have to focus on my college. :( So I will play it during the weekend.

[kittynboi]

I just came close to getting totally ownzored.

Here's what happened;

It was in the magicite mines in Bhujerba, after you come back from beating Ghis. I have everyone so I wanted to build people up and get some money for new armor and the like. So I took my two more under-leveld characters in to the mine and tried to get a huge killchain with skeletons going on, but I had trouble.

At one point on one of those bridges/tracks, I spent too long fighting a group of skeletons, so all of them around me started respawning or whatever at once, so it was a neverending attack from all sides. Fran and Balthier were in my group and both had bow/gun weapons, so they kept their distance, stirring up all the skeletons near where the one I was trying to fight was.

So it was one skeleton after another, faster than I could heal, and all my phoenix downs ran out. I barely made it out of the area with only Fran, and if I had not learned Raise I probably would not have made it out of the mine.

I decided to stop at a chain of 50 skeletons and not push my luck any further, at least not before I could sell all the stuff I got.

[Danju]

X-Play gave FFXII a 5/5.

Now that I've got more Gambits I've been able to customize my characters and things have become much easier. I never knew Fran came with Cure, so that's where my first Game Over came from. -_-; I turned her into a spear-wielding Black Mage with a few support spells.

[F Stop]

So what's the verdict then, does this game live up to all the hype? Is it at least better than FFX-2?

[Rahxephon91]

So what's the verdict then, does this game live up to all the hype? Is it at least better than FFX-2?
Yes it does live up to the hype. So far its been fantastic. Way better then FFX-2.

[F Stop]

This is seriously killing me. I desperately want to play the game...but I have a real hard time shelling out $80+ dollars on a used PS2, which will be my THIRD PS2 within a year.

Guess I'll check craigslist or something. I need to play this game, but it's ridiculous how many PS2s I've gone through since they came out...

[Levon]

Is it at least better than FFX-2?

:lol: :lol:


Its a great game, I'm near the end but theres still a TON of hunts I have to complete.
I just beat Gilgamesh for the first time but he ran away & I have to fight him in a different place, thats a special hunt. I need help from anyone thats fight him, I stole the Genji Gloves from him but I don't see it anywhere on the License board:huh: How do I equip it? And is it worth it?

[Sendo Takeshi]

And let's not forget that it is better than FFX as well. Anyway, time to slap in my copy and start playing. Great game thus far.

*places drink on his unofficial FFX DVD coaster*

[F Stop]

:lol: :lol:


Its a great game, I'm near the end but theres still a TON of hunts I have to complete.
I just beat Gilgamesh for the first time but he ran away & I have to fight him in a different place, thats a special hunt. I need help from anyone thats fight him, I stole the Genji Gloves from him but I don't see it anywhere on the License board:huh: How do I equip it? And is it worth it?

How the hell are you almost at the end?? Didn't it just come out yesterday?

How many hours do you have into it so far?

[Danju]

How the hell are you almost at the end?? Didn't it just come out yesterday?

How many hours do you have into it so far?
I think he imported it.

Bah, I hate Licenses. I stole a nice piece of armor but can't find the License to equip it... Farming LP is pretty easy but it's still tedious. Oh well, the story so far is great and that's what I care about the most.

[Jon]

How much better is this game than FFX? I absolutley loved that game. I don't have a PS2, but I'm planning to buy one (the silver edition) with FFXII.

My friend said the battle system is amazing.

[F Stop]

I guess I'll just go buy a new PS2. I *really* didn't want to have to do that, but I've been reading reviews of the game for the past 2 hours (killing time at work), and I have to play this. I have this whole "holy crap I can't wait any longer complex going on."

[Amuro]

How do people break their consoles so often? Do they keep them in extremely dusty places with no ventilation and leave food on them? Do they fool around with their friends, throwing random objects which often happen to hit the PS2 around?

Seriously, I want to know, because I've never had a console stop working on me and yet I constantly hear of people exchanging their PS2 for the 5th time.

[Lacan]

I just got this game today and I can say that its much better then FFX-2. I hated FFX-2 with a passion it was an insult to FFX.

Well anyway, I'm having alot of fun with the battle system with FFXII, I made Vaan into some sort of red mage fighter right now. But I bet he will be like some Ultimate Warrior along with the rest of the characters by the end of the game.

Though the spells of level 1 Fire, Ice and Thunder do look whimpy though compared to other FF games, even the NES/SNES FF games had better looking level 1 spells. but I know they will come in handy soon enough with certain enemies and bosses.

[gameoffreak8]

I love that game so much. I suppose it's very better. Yeah, License board is little annoying but it's not bad, though. The battle system is astounding.

[F Stop]

How do people break their consoles so often? Do they keep them in extremely dusty places with no ventilation and leave food on them? Do they fool around with their friends, throwing random objects which often happen to hit the PS2 around?

Seriously, I want to know, because I've never had a console stop working on me and yet I constantly hear of people exchanging their PS2 for the 5th time.

I've had 2 die in the last 1.5 years. The lasers just burn out on them.

[Rahxephon91]

How much better is this game than FFX? I absolutley loved that game. I don't have a PS2, but I'm planning to buy one (the silver edition) with FFXII.

My friend said the battle system is amazing.
I think its good but I think FFX is a better game. I think the leveling and battle system in FFX is better. As for the story, so far its good but in the end I think I will prefer FFX.

It's still a good game.

[Danju]

How much better is this game than FFX? I absolutley loved that game. I don't have a PS2, but I'm planning to buy one (the silver edition) with FFXII.

My friend said the battle system is amazing.
I really, really didn't like FFX. At all. The story was boring and the Sphere Grid was the worst leveling system ever. The battle system was one of the best of the original turn-based, though.

So to answer your question, I think FFXII is much, much better than FFX. ^_^ The story in this one is a lot darker; it feels more mature. The battle system takes a while to get used to, but once you do you'll love it. At least, I do. The License system is pretty much the Sphere Grid in a different form and is the only thing I really don't like about FFXII so far.

[Sendo Takeshi]

I really, really didn't like FFX. At all. The story was boring and the Sphere Grid was the worst leveling system ever. The battle system was one of the best of the original turn-based, though.

So to answer your question, I think FFXII is much, much better than FFX. ^_^ The story in this one is a lot darker; it feels more mature. The battle system takes a while to get used to, but once you do you'll love it. At least, I do. The License system is pretty much the Sphere Grid in a different form and is the only thing I really don't like about FFXII so far.


My exact same thoughts on the game compared to FFX. Although, Auron was the only interesting character out of the cast and Blitz Ball was the only real highlight in the game.

I like the Licensing system. Makes the game feel a lot more tactical in terms of equipping items and it's actual equipment this time. It's like FFT just not tactical in terms of fighting. This right here could have been FFT2.

[germanturkey]

i'll hold off commenting until i actually play twelve, but the ffx-2 battle system was amazing in its own right. so to see twelve's be just as good or better really makes me happy

[Danju]

I like the Licensing system. Makes the game feel a lot more tactical in terms of equipping items and it's actual equipment this time. It's like FFT just not tactical in terms of fighting. This right here could have been FFT2.
I wouldn't mind it if it were only for technicks/magicks/stat bonuses. Needing to acquire a license for equipment is annoying. Especially when you have no idea what anything is...I'm still searching for the License Tile that lets me equip the armor I stole. I must agree though that the tactical level it gives is kind of nice.

[Jon]

God damnit all this talk of FFXII greatness make me want to buy a PS2 right now.

I can assure this: If I can't find a Wii for Xmas, I'm getting a PS2 with FFXII and Guitar Hero 2.

[crow-kun]

FFXII is god, FFXII is love, come my friend embrace god and be loved.

[HitokiriShadow]

I picked up the LE version and the LE guide on Tuesday (at 12:01 AM :) ) and I'm currently 13 hours in.... and I've barely started on the story stuff. I'm currently in the mines. There is just so much you can do in this game without having to advance the story.

Overall, I like the license system, but I think they could have worked the equipment portion out better.

[Rahxephon91]

Man this game is amazing. Just got past the part where you get Ashe and man was that awesome.

[gameoffreak8]

O_o. Darn, I have to wait until the weekend or possibly Thursday night. Thanks to stupid college which I have to learn some ****ing school work. <_<

[MightyDustLoop]

:lol: :lol:


Its a great game, I'm near the end but theres still a TON of hunts I have to complete.
I just beat Gilgamesh for the first time but he ran away & I have to fight him in a different place, thats a special hunt. I need help from anyone thats fight him, I stole the Genji Gloves from him but I don't see it anywhere on the License board:huh: How do I equip it? And is it worth it?

Genji gloves are indeed there on the license board. Only catch is its with Genji everything else, which happens to be with the armor. See the quickening on the very right of the lower board? It's the spot right next to it.

[Danju]

Found this License Board image (http://home.comcast.net/~jhunwung/LicenseGrid.png) for any of you struggling with it. It's extremely helpful.

[ryushe]

Well I got this game the day it came out and I didn't have a chance to play it cause I was so tired from work. But I gotta say it's a blast so far. I didn't like/understand the battle at first but I grew to love it (It's basically the same turn based, just now more active).

I can't wait for the confrontation between a certain two characters Vann and Basch


*places drink on his unofficial FFX DVD coaster*
I have a coke on mine right know. :P

EDIT: I don't know about anyone else but I've grown to like Vann's character design, On the subject of Vann, Anyone noticed the little goethe (sp?) he's got?

[Lunay]

I have only begun to play today and I am already loving it. I have not gotten into the sotry far enough yet but I am having a blast getting exp, LP and gil at the moment. I was skeptical of this new battle-system like many, but now that I fully understand it I must say its quite refreshing! I don't miss hearing that infamous FF music after every battle. This new chain system is so fun I didnt yawn once while getting a massive chain:

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7691/ffxii13nu9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Im also loving the MMORPG type feel to it. I literally felt like I was playing FFXI at times (lol).

License system. Sweet~. Clan Primer. Exciting. Weapon and armor design. Gorgeous.

I cannot comment on the game as whole yet since Im not far into it. But all I can say is FFXII is definitely fresh and I cant wait to play more!

[Danju]

Im also loving the MMORPG type feel to it. I literally felt like I was playing FFXI at times (lol).
Tell me about it. While I was wandering through the desert I encountered an NPC who buffed me. :lol: He cast Protect on both me and Penelo.

[Solid_Snake]

Am I the only one who doesn't like this game? Man, add another FF game to the disapointment parade...

PS: I'll take FFX anyday of the week.

[Manafairy]

Before I determine whether I want to go blow some $40 right now, hold off until it's a greatest hit, or just scratch it off of my list O' games-to-buy entirely, I've got few questions I'm hoping someone who's played the game can answer:

Firstly, does this have an oddly addicting minigame-ish kind of thing like how 10 had Blitz Ball, 9 had tetra master, and 8 had triple triad?

Secondly, How are the characters so far? Any other characters in other games you can think to liken each one to, perhaps?

lastly and most importantly, how much of a love story is it? 8, 9, and 10 all struck me as overglorified chick flicks, where any and every "plot twist" only served to create another obstacle in the protganists' superficial romance rather than bring anything worthwhile to the table, so I gotta know: Is this another typical Final Fantasy love story with some generic political "intrigue" on the side, or does this actually have a story that took some thought and skill to tell?

[crow-kun]

For the hunts do you have to do them in order of the list before you can go on to fight another monster?

[Levon]

For the hunts do you have to do them in order of the list before you can go on to fight another monster?

Nah^_^


Before I determine whether I want to go blow some $40 right now, hold off until it's a greatest hit, or just scratch it off of my list O' games-to-buy entirely, I've got few questions I'm hoping someone who's played the game can answer:

Firstly, does this have an oddly addicting minigame-ish kind of thing like how 10 had Blitz Ball, 9 had tetra master, and 8 had triple triad?

Secondly, How are the characters so far? Any other characters in other games you can think to liken each one to, perhaps?

lastly and most importantly, how much of a love story is it? 8, 9, and 10 all struck me as overglorified chick flicks, where any and every "plot twist" only served to create another obstacle in the protganists' superficial romance rather than bring anything worthwhile to the table, so I gotta know: Is this another typical Final Fantasy love story with some generic political "intrigue" on the side, or does this actually have a story that took some thought and skill to tell?

There are the hunts, although those just might be considered side quests. The hunts are better than any cheap card game or crappy Blitz ball mini game. They are a lot of fun. People all over the world request hunts & you can accept them, you get money & [sometimes rare] items. Each hunt is like a boss fight, especially when you get to the later half. Theres A LOT of hunts, they will keep you really busy.

There really isn't a love story, besides Ashe losing her husband. Thats about it.
I'm glad there isn't a sappy romance in a FF game for once. Its focus is on the war story which is well thought out. And the dialog is amazing to listen to.

[Sendo Takeshi]

There are the hunts, although those just might be considered side quests. The hunts are better than any cheap card game or crappy Blitz ball mini game. .


Nothing can top Triple Triad. NOTHING.

*still shocked by Levon's post*

Oh God, I think I'm gonna have to lay down after reading that. OH GOD. Levon. You....you shock me.

FF12 characters > FFX characters. Balthier would be my love if I were gay.

[F Stop]

So I just bought a used PS2 from a co-worker, who ironically was trying to sell his. $50.

I'm making a mad dash to gamestop after work tonight to pickup FFXII. I can hardly sit still...

[ryushe]

Am I the only one who doesn't like this game? Man, add another FF game to the disapointment parade...

PS: I'll take FFX anyday of the week.
Just curious, How many hours are you in the game?

I won't lie though, I fell the music is a little lacking for a FF title so far. I really miss the Victory Fanfare. Also, is it just me or rotating the camera takes some time to get used to, I wish you could put on the revers option or something.


FF12 characters > FFX characters. Balthier would be my love if I were gay.
Tell me about it. I love his surly British accent and his "swagger" (I'm quite serious -_-; )

[kenshinbebop]

I'll be picking this up later today...hopefully they'll have the LE.

[MightyDustLoop]

Most GS's have plenty of the CE, so you're set.

And my sentiments echo Levon's. It's still far different from the traditional FF installments, so I'm sure one's enjoyment can go either way. But I think if you have an open mind, a lot of people will enjoy the changes. There's still a lot of pretty graphics, but there's an inarguable change in emphasis to the gameplay.

Really defied the style over substance rep the series has garnered.

[germanturkey]

alright, plan is, if ps3 camp out fails, buy this game.. haha

[Aya Nekoneko]

I'm a few hours into the game and I'm still trying to get used to the backwards camera. When I'm running around, I keep my eye on the map more often than on the characters. xD

The battle system can get really hectic for me though, as I don't fully know how to put gambits to good use. I died against one of the earlier bosses because it was hard for me to keep track of all the characters. I also haven't fully utilized the license system either. How are you supposed to get these so-called "quickenings"?

All in all, the game is looking really good. The voice acting is excellent (I even like Fran's "cottonballs in mouth" voice! it's endearing) and I like all the characters so far (Balthier is one smooth cat). Basch pissed me the hell off when he didn't have his sword and kept attacking with his fists... I had to use like 4 phoenix downs on him alone but that was [thankfully] remedied. And does Vaan's six-pack look creepy or what...? It's just... shudder. Other than that complaint, everything looks solid so far.

Oh, are the load times sometimes ridiculously long for anyone else (and I mean in the range of 10 seconds+)?

[Sendo Takeshi]

Oh, are the load times sometimes ridiculously long for anyone else (and I mean in the range of 10 seconds+)?



Yes. Yes, they are.

[espy]

Is anyone else having trouble with just a bunch of enemies on the field ganging up on them? I'm at the part fairly near the beginning where you have to go find that kid to get the sunstone, and as I'm heading south (where everyone said I need to go) I keep getting attacked by 2 many enemies at a time. I mean, 2 (Vaan and Penelo) vs. like 5 enemies doesnt seem very fair

[Sendo Takeshi]

Is anyone else having trouble with just a bunch of enemies on the field ganging up on them? I'm at the part fairly near the beginning where you have to go find that kid to get the sunstone, and as I'm heading south (where everyone said I need to go) I keep getting attacked by 2 many enemies at a time. I mean, 2 (Vaan and Penelo) vs. like 5 enemies doesnt seem very fair


Don't head directly South. Get the map from the Moogle for 33 Gil and head East.

[espy]

I did get that map. And I was kind of wondering how far down south they meant. There's one part that like directly south of the village and you get there by heading out the western entrance and going down. So it is the other way where you head east and end up at that southern part almost at the bottom of the map?

[ryushe]

Is anyone else having trouble with just a bunch of enemies on the field ganging up on them? I'm at the part fairly near the beginning where you have to go find that kid to get the sunstone, and as I'm heading south (where everyone said I need to go) I keep getting attacked by 2 many enemies at a time. I mean, 2 (Vaan and Penelo) vs. like 5 enemies doesnt seem very fair
I got my first game over from those two axe wielding beast in the same place. I tried to run but it was no luck. <_< I could already see I'm gonna get a lot of game overs in this FF...and that's a good thing. :P

But i'm really digging the battle more and more, While I hope FFXII has a more "traditional" battle, But this medium is something I could get used to.

[Sendo Takeshi]

I did get that map. And I was kind of wondering how far down south they meant. There's one part that like directly south of the village and you get there by heading out the western entrance and going down. So it is the other way where you head east and end up at that southern part almost at the bottom of the map?


You should basically circle around the Giza Plains and end up in a small area where you end up meeting Jinn. Don't EVER go into the main path from the village where the save point is at. Head through there and you'll end up fighting some monsters that will kill you in one hit.

[kittynboi]

I'm about 20 hours in to it, I've only had one game over so far.

Balthier is by far my favorite character; I love his classy, arrogant confident attitude. Some people compare him and Fran ot Han Solo and Chewbacca. No way. Blathier and Fran are 1 million times better.

I'm a bit shocked at how many people are having trouble with the gambits, the license board, etc. I've found it to be exceedingly simple. I already have at least one quickening for everyone, and two for Penelo.

One thing that I've really noticed is how slowly you accumulate $$ this time, as the stuff you sell doesn't always fetch a great price. Actually, most things in general seem to grow at a moderate to slow pace. You level up fairly often it seems, but LP accumulates slowly unless you do massive chains, and even then, especially when you start approaching the edge of the board, you can use all that up on a few squares. I find it very satisfying, as it seems it will help the game last all the long.

I'm really enjoying the hunts and how absurdly powerful some of those enemies have been so far.

The only thing that threw me off at first was the use of of quickenings, since I couldn't use the slot-like feature well and time kept running out, but that was only because very few people had quickenings for a while.

Yeah, theres no blitzball, card games, or anything this time. Oh well. I didn't care for any of those minigames at all.

[espy]

Got around it and to the kid. Before I head onto the palace I'm about to explore this whole town and some of the plains around it to see what all there is. And I think I need to level up some.. level 3 at this point doesnt seem right...

[Westlo]

Wow Ashe is Haruka from FLCL and Anemone from Eureka Seven... this dub ****ing rocks.

[F Stop]

I'm about 2 hours into it. God today has been awesome. :)

[Aya Nekoneko]

For some reason, I had a lot of trouble trying to find Rabanastre after the crew escapes from the dugeon.

I finally understand gambits. They're quite useful but it's annoying when I forget what I had them set to and the characters keep using up potions. x___X The license board I'm still iffy on. I'll just save my LP until I figure out how to use it adequately. Still have no idea what quickening is (is this something on the license board?).

[Rahxephon91]

Just look at your map.

Anyway just got past my visit to the Shiva. Man was that part awesome.

[Aya Nekoneko]

I figured it out after ending back at the first save crystal twice ("This place looks awfully familiar...").

And I also got pwned by that one fat bird (Nek... Nekr-summat).

I'm dying more in this game than I've ever died in any Final Fantasy (and earlier on too). xD

[Sendo Takeshi]

I'm dying more in this game than I've ever died in any Final Fantasy (and earlier on too). xD


Numbers are what kill you in this game. I've run in and fought about 4 monsters at once and the outcome wasn't pretty. I pick them off one by one. And it's about time to get me some new equipment and whatnot. I want to have a little love for the Licensing system, but it's really restricting me from equipping some good stuff.

The Gambit system is hella fun. I actually sat back and let Balthier and Fran kill the Mimic Queen for me.

[ryushe]

That's why I think I'm gonna love this FF, Level grinding was a joy for me with past FF titles and since this one is fun, it's not a problem. Also the absence of the love story was a very good move. Now thinking back, the only good love story any Final Fantasy series had was FFIX (Zidane and Garnet) and FFX (Tidus and Yuna...till they f'ed it up with X-2 but that's another story).

Anyone else go head strong in the place with all the guards after you get out of the colosseum? That didn't end to well for me.

[espy]

I also thought the love story is FF9 was good. Zidane and Garnet forever!

Anyways, my only real complaint with FF12 is the license system, I bought a sword [broadsword], but I can't use it.. and I have no idea where on the board it is... I'm also a little confused on the magicks, I activated Black and White Magicks 1 on Vaan's board, but he still can't use them, what's the deal?

Speaking of FF9, I really liked its system for gaining abilities, them just coming along with the weapons and all

[ryushe]

I also thought the love story is FF9 was good. Zidane and Garnet forever!
The best couple in a final fantays story. To bad that pimp is tied down :P.

Anyways, my only real complaint with FF12 is the license system, I bought a sword [broadsword], but I can't use it.. and I have no idea where on the board it is... I'm also a little confused on the magicks, I activated Black and White Magicks 1 on Vaan's board, but he still can't use them, what's the deal?
It's a little confusing at first but it becomes easier and a little fun/interesting (This is maybe due to the fact that I love micromanagement). someone (I think Danju) posted a picture of the license board a few pages back, you can find it there I believe.

Speaking of FF9, I really liked its system for gaining abilities, them just coming along with the weapons and all
In all honestly, I'm surprised FFIX is so over looked. it easily had one of the best, if not the best stories in a FF title to date. definitely one of my favorites.

[Westlo]

FF9 is overlooked because it came at the end of the ps1's life cycle, I hope FFXII doesn't suffer the same fate.

[crow-kun]

Anyone else go head strong in the place with all the guards after you get out of the colosseum? That didn't end to well for me.With the Three Seeqs? I mowed through those guards. Just like I stood my ground on the Leviathan.

[ryushe]

^ That's where I found out you can sneak. I ran around in circles and like 6-8 gaurds were chasing me. Died soon after. when I started up again, I just took the gambits off and stuck to the walls.

I don't know if i'm the only one and i'm not into beastiality by any means, but my god Fran is hot :wub:

[HitokiriShadow]

Anyways, my only real complaint with FF12 is the license system, I bought a sword [broadsword], but I can't use it.. and I have no idea where on the board it is... I'm also a little confused on the magicks, I activated Black and White Magicks 1 on Vaan's board, but he still can't use them, what's the deal?

You have to actually buy magic from a magic shop before you can use it. But you only have to buy each spell once and then everyone can use it. Techniques work the same way.

The Broadsword should be part of Swords 2, which is immediately to the right of Swords 1. Keep going right on the license board for more swords. Considering Vaan starts with the first Sword license and the next one is right next to it, I have to ask: How did you not see this? You DO realize there are two boards, one for skills and one for equipment, right?

Also, the first page of this thread had a link to a picture with the whole license board on it. That should help you with future problems like this.


And yes, Fran is hot. And I love her voice as well.

[espy]

Alright, it all makes sense now... and this is why I need to explore the town (Rabenastre, sp?) to find out things like this. And as far as the license board goes.. just keep going right for swords, gotcha.

One thing I like that I've noticed, is the fact that its not as much as a pain in the *** to level up anymore. No random battles is a big plus for me.. just run up, kill, gain exp, repeat.

[kittynboi]

The lack of random battles and no seperate battle screen makes everything much easier, as it doesn't feel like you're being interrupted every few seconds. Just fighting an enemy where you see it, and knowing its coming, makes everything flow much more smoothly.

And as for FF9, I think that the love story in 9 was way more convincing and thought out than the one in 8.

[Westlo]

8's love story suffered from Square trying to make it so "epic", 9's just came off much more natural. And yeah the lack of random battles and no seperate battle screen would save so much time over the course of an 100 hour playthrough.

[Westlo]

Geez I thought Gamespot would give it a low score to try and appear "cool", looks like I was wrong.

The Good: Inspired art direction and a strong cast of characters draw you into the world; lengthy quest spans dozens of hours of gameplay; redesigned strategic combat system offers considerable depth and complexity; all battles are fought in context while exploring, so no random encounters; excellent music and voice acting.

The Bad: The gambit and license-board systems are complicated to get used to; a bit too much running around back and forth in some spots.

Hey Crossbone Gundam where are you now? You only bashed this game every chance you could prior and after it's release in japan.

"lol i'll post a pic of a guy snapping the disc in half after he bought it. Even though he would've had no chance to play the game, it proves it sucks just like I've been saying for the last 6 months lol!"

Even if you ended up liking this game I doubt you would admit it :p

[ryushe]

Man I just got past the part in the Magicite Mines and I gotta say that part was great. Did anyone actually try to fight the Bangaa team there? Once I turned to one of them and seen protect, shell and haste, I was like "Oh noes" and with like 3 level gains for each character, a semi 40 up chain (I finally learned how to use that damn thing) and I didn't save for an hour, I immediately high tailed it out of there.

I also came to a realization, I've never had so much fun running in an RPG. I actually felt like I was being chased, where as just holding the R2 and L2 buttons.

Did any one else think Lamont was a girl?

[Levon]

Just running away from them they killed some of my characters:lol: I assume you have to. I wonder what happens if someone levels up A LOT before then & beats them. But I think their strenth might just go up where its impossible to beat them.

Yes, lots thought Lamont looks like a girl. Did you watch X-Play, "Guy or Girl?":P

[Aya Nekoneko]

The part where you have to run away from the Bangaa or fight them (I was not about to do this!) nearly got me killed on a few occasions. The worst moments always came when I was trailing several monsters behind me and ran into a dead end/went the wrong way. The world map is your friend.

Oh, and I could tell Lamont was a boy. A very pretty boy. d:

[ryushe]

Just running away from them they killed some of my characters:lol: I assume you have to. I wonder what happens if someone levels up A LOT before then & beats them. But I think their strenth might just go up where its impossible to beat them.

I think this game has a FFVIII effect, I think the monsters levels are relative to your own. I went back in the same mine to try and level up/get gil (Get stuff to sell for gil) and those zombie warriors almost killed me like 5 times. Good thing there always the running option.


Yes, lots thought Lamont looks like a girl. Did you watch X-Play, "Guy or Girl?":P
I've heard a lot of people get confused whether or not some characters in the FF series were guys or girls and I can say this is the first time it's ever happened to me. Its kinda scary to, I thought Lamont was a little hot at first (Mainly due to the accent and brashness) -_-;

[Rahxephon91]

I've heard a lot of people get confused whether or not some characters in the FF series were guys or girls and I can say this is the first time it's ever happened to me. Its kinda scary to, I thought Lamont was a little hot at first (Mainly due to the accent and brashness) -_-;
Yeah "Lamont" is the first character that has ever got me confused. Other then that, I cant believe some people get confused.

[crow-kun]

Did anyone else notice it looked like he was wearing highheels when he was talking with Penelo in that room after the mine part?

Also if there are Bangaa women where are the Viera men?

[Lacan]

Is it me or is the Mist Quickening Chains really powerful? I defeated a boss with one hit with it. It looked like the whole planet in that game was going to blow up. But then again in FFVII Sephiroth had an attack that destroyed the same whole Solar System again and again and nothing actually happened except for damage to the party.

[kittynboi]

They're very powerful in the beginning, but as you go on they lose their bite a bit more. They're still the best attacks you have, but they lose the ability to devastate things.

[MightyDustLoop]

And eat up your MP like wildfire. But compared to summons, I use em a ton. I'll have to see if the last couple summons change that.

[F Stop]

Thanks by the way guys for using the spoiler tags in this thread. :)

[MightyDustLoop]

Man I just got past the part in the Magicite Mines and I gotta say that part was great. Did anyone actually try to fight the Bangaa team there? Once I turned to one of them and seen protect, shell and haste, I was like "Oh noes" and with like 3 level gains for each character, a semi 40 up chain (I finally learned how to use that damn thing) and I didn't save for an hour, I immediately high tailed it out of there.

I also came to a realization, I've never had so much fun running in an RPG. I actually felt like I was being chased, where as just holding the R2 and L2 buttons.

Did any one else think Lamont was a girl?

That may be the only story progression boss battle that nearly wiped me out. It was ugly. I had my allies set on gambit, attacked closest, and turned and ran instead of using the flee command. At the end of it all, all but one of my team was wiped out, and that one member was on the verge of death. Since i'd game some levels and messed around a little, I would've been pissed. There's no save point right before that one I believe.

[HitokiriShadow]

Did any one else think Lamont was a girl?

I was iffy for a few seconds, but it became clear after he spoke a couple of lines.

Just running away from them they killed some of my characters:lol: I assume you have to. I wonder what happens if someone levels up A LOT before then & beats them. But I think their strenth might just go up where its impossible to beat them.


I beat them and I got 17 gil. I'm not sure how much EXP or LP they gave me, but I don't think it was much.

[kittynboi]

I didn't have trouble. Once I saw the Bangaas HP I decided to run, and held down the flee button the entire time.

[HitokiriShadow]

They aren't supposed to be difficult to run from. They are supposed to be hard to fight and beat, which is what people are asking about. Unless you've done a good deal of leveling up and LP building, you won't be able to beat them. And you'll be doing a lot of healing.

[MightyDustLoop]

Fleeing's a ***** in this game. Really puts the intensity back into running. Especially since you've got the camera facing in a way so you can see where you're going, and simultaneously bracing for the hit from behind, never knowing when it'll come, and if it might wipe you out.

Moreover, when you're running toward a door or treasure chest, you've got to let go to hit the X button. That can mess you up bad, cuz letting go also causes your character to automatically spend time unsheathing. They sure know how to plant the fear back in you like the old days.

[HitokiriShadow]

I think this game has a FFVIII effect, I think the monsters levels are relative to your own. I went back in the same mine to try and level up/get gil (Get stuff to sell for gil) and those zombie warriors almost killed me like 5 times. Good thing there always the running option.

I think they just get stronger after you leave and come back; there also some new enemies that weren't there the first time. The fact that Lamont isn't with you doesn't help. There MAY be a slight increase in their stats relative to your own levels, but if there is, it is minimal and not the same as in FF8. If you go back to the Easterlands were you had to do the hunt, the enemies will still be pathetically weak.

I'm at level 20 and the skeletons in the mines still take 4-6 hits to take out, but I think that is a result of two things:
A) I was chaining and the enemies seemed to get stronger as the chain gets higher (I had a chain of 301 before I decided I had done enough; its easy in the mines with that one bridge with tons of skeltons)
B) In this game, levels don't mean much beyond how much HP/MP you have. The rest of the stats get negligible increases. Equipment and the License Board are a lot more important than levels.

[kittynboi]

A chain of 301?

I only got 50. It seemed that after a while, the Skeletons just stopped respawning.

[Rahxephon91]

Can your characters get permanently silenced?

[kittynboi]

Nope.

Did you equip that manufactured nethicite on someone? It inflicts silence as long as its equiped.

[Rahxephon91]

Nope.

Did you equip that manufactured nethicite on someone? It inflicts silence as long as its equiped.
Oh thats what it is. Well its on Basch, and he really dosen't use magic anyway.

[Holy Knight]

Well, I'm now about 3 hours in and just past the part where you Beat Firemane, the first boss. Awesome battle.

At first, I found the story to be quite slow and the battles tedious as I'm not a fan of slow mmorpg-ish delaying in the attack rate. However, it really picks up depending on the number of characters in your party. Haven't had much chance to explore as the world is so large and I don't have much time for that currently.

As for party configurations, I'm going to have Basch as team leader, wielding Katanas and going into Green/white magick with augments on the side. I'm planing on making him a fast attacking tank-type character. Next is Fran, with bows as weapon and user of arcane/black magick. Lastly, I have yet to choose between Ashe or Vaan for wielding a fast melee weapon and other licences I have yet to choose.

So far, it's a good game, but certainly not comparable to the high marks it's getting. The FMV's and boss battles are intense, but that's about it. Maybe I'm still too early in the game to really decide, so we'll see.

EDIT: I forgot to add in that I dislike the voice acting and the british accent in old english irritates me. It just feels out of place in a Final Fantasy game. Maybe I'll grow into it.

I also had a "what the?..." moment when I beat the 5 flans before the fire-horse boss. The screen suddenly went "congratulations", which came out of nowhere and had nothing to do with the "mature" and "serious" tone of the game.

Even though I may hold many things against it at this point, it's still a very good game and definitely worth a buy. It has quality effort put into it and that's what counts.

[ryushe]

I was playing earlier and I didn't know the Gambits systems was so precise. I noticed Basch kept attacking my team members, So I'm thinking is he confused or something. So I checked everything and couldn't find anything wrong with him, but when I went to the gambits screen he had target allies < 50% and I accidentally put "attack" instead of "heal" :lol:

I find that interesting though, that it can be used so precisely.

[Lunay]

I think they just get stronger after you leave and come back; there also some new enemies that weren't there the first time. The fact that Lamont isn't with you doesn't help. There MAY be a slight increase in their stats relative to your own levels, but if there is, it is minimal and not the same as in FF8. If you go back to the Easterlands were you had to do the hunt, the enemies will still be pathetically weak.

I'm at level 20 and the skeletons in the mines still take 4-6 hits to take out, but I think that is a result of two things:
A) I was chaining and the enemies seemed to get stronger as the chain gets higher (I had a chain of 301 before I decided I had done enough; its easy in the mines with that one bridge with tons of skeltons)
B) In this game, levels don't mean much beyond how much HP/MP you have. The rest of the stats get negligible increases. Equipment and the License Board are a lot more important than levels.

I did a chain of http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4250/ffxii14du7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) and I must agree with his observation. This chain was also done at Lhusu Mines on skeletons. After the 200th chain, the skeleton seemed to cast more spells, had higher accuracy, and did more hit combos. Either this observation is correct or I was getting a little exhausted. =P

I highly don't recommend chaining over 200 since the inventory will not allow you to carry more than 1 stack of a single item. A single stack of Bone Fragment is worth 19,107 gil. I probably had a stack of Dark Stone (i think around 3400 per stack) and Bone Fragment by the time I hit chain 200. So, by refusing to lose the chain and heading back to town to sell, I missed the oppurtunity of gaining another 22,000gil.

As far as Gambit goes, I personally prefer to have everyones Gambit off. I guess I prefer to have full control of everyone.

[crow-kun]

As far as Gambit goes, I personally prefer to have everyones Gambit off. I guess I prefer to have full control of everyone.Are you playing on Active?

[Amuro]

Well, I just bought the game..

Like it so far, although it hasn't had the emotional impact that FFX had back in the day..
The combat system and navagation is a bit cumbersome, but relatively pleasing in the long run.

What did y'all make each of your characters specialize in?
I think I'm going for:
Vaan - Guns
Penelo - Poles
Balthier - Daggers
Fran I'll leave as a bow-user for now, and I haven't made my mind up about the rest..

[kittynboi]

My weapons focus is as follows;

Vaan-Swords
Ashe-Axes, Hammers, Measures
Penelo-Poles
Balthier-Guns
Fran-Bows
Basch-Spears

[Holy Knight]

By the way, are ninja swords one-handed or two-handed weapons? Also, can your characters come to dual-wield weapons later on?

So far, the game is picking up for me. I'm 7 hours in and just got to the part where you Go to save Penelo, after escaping from the castle dungeons

The battle system needs a while to grow into it, but once you do, it picks up a lot.

[HitokiriShadow]

A chain of 301?

I only got 50. It seemed that after a while, the Skeletons just stopped respawning.

You have to leave two screens and then come back. And turn your gambits off or flee so you don't accidentally kill something that isn't a skeleton.

I did a chain of http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4250/ffxii14du7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) and I must agree with his observation. This chain was also done at Lhusu Mines on skeletons. After the 200th chain, the skeleton seemed to cast more spells, had higher accuracy, and did more hit combos. Either this observation is correct or I was getting a little exhausted. =P

I highly don't recommend chaining over 200 since the inventory will not allow you to carry more than 1 stack of a single item. A single stack of Bone Fragment is worth 19,107 gil. I probably had a stack of Dark Stone (i think around 3400 per stack) and Bone Fragment by the time I hit chain 200. So, by refusing to lose the chain and heading back to town to sell, I missed the oppurtunity of gaining another 22,000gil.

My experience was pretty much the same, regarding the skeletons and their use of spells, etc. After the 200 mark, they skeletons required quite a bit more effort to defeat. Once you get to around a chain of 200, its best to just go sell of your items (especially bone fragments, since they sell for a good amount) and then go back and start over.

[ryushe]

My weapons are mostly whatever I need in a boss battle, Especially the part when you fight the fire-like bird when your trying to go to the temple to find the Dawn shard. I just put guns and Bow on my party. But it's mostly as follows

Vaan - Swords, Knives (Anything else for a FF main character is crazy, just crazy)

Ashe - Swords, Poles

Balthier - Poles and guns (He looks so cool with a staff)

Penelo - What's more powerful, I don't really use her.

Fran - Bows (Just because when I win a battle and she put the arrow in her mouth, it's so sexy :P)

Basch - Again whatever more powerful, Mostly knives. (The assasins knife killed almost every enemy I fought)

[kittynboi]

I just did a 200 chain on those skeletons. I'm WAY past that part, with Vaan at lvl 34, so they posed no threat, and it was a quick way to make 20,000 gil.

Everything in this game is so expensive, especially armor and techs.

As for where I'm at;

I just beat the elder wyrm in the jungle, and I'm on my way to that mountain range or whatever. I was missing a lot of stuff, magick and techs mostly, and I felt like doing some hunts, so I stopped to catch up.

I'm enjoying this game SO much. I'm tearing up the license board, but I'm still behind when it comes to Quickenings.

[ryushe]

Everything in this game is so expensive, especially armor and techs.
I don't know about anyone else but I love that about this game. In other final fantasy's, when I was half way though the game I could buy everything I needed, twice, But in this FF, Your so pathetically poor that it's not even funny.

It adds a lot of decision on what to get. Like if your party members keep dieing in battle and you only have money for one set of items such as healing magic/items, better armour or better weapon's, Which one do you get? I was in my menu for like 15 Min's trying to figure out what would be a more beneficial purchase.


I'm enjoying this game SO much. I'm tearing up the license board, but I'm still behind when it comes to Quickenings.
Me too, but I honestly don't know who to use the quickenings yet.

I think this is one of the best Final Fantasy's already and I'm less than half way trough the game. One biggest thing I love is the gorgeous and "HUGE" over world. I though Dragon Quest VIII had a great over world, but this blows it away in terms of size and detail. I just got past the part in the sand sea (That FMV was great) and it actually felt like I was traveling a far way to my destination.

[Lunay]

Are you playing on Active?

Yes, I play on Active when the situation is not rough; exp and farming gil and LP. I play on Wait when I am controling 4 characters and the situation is rough; Boss Fight and Notorious Monsters.

I think Gambit is very useful for certain situations. Like when I want to eat and I can't fully operate. Hehe. =P

[TK]

Pffft, you're all lucky *****es, still an annoyingly long wait for the European fans :mad:

[crow-kun]

Pffft, you're all lucky *****es, still an annoyingly long wait for the European fans :mad:Neener neener neener!!! :P ;) :)
Yes, I play on Active when the situation is not rough; exp and farming gil and LP. I play on Wait when I am controling 4 characters and the situation is rough; Boss Fight and Notorious Monsters.

I think Gambit is very useful for certain situations. Like when I want to eat and I can't fully operate. Hehe. =PActive on 24/7 for me. I had it on since the start of the game haven't turned it off for nothing. I am awesome. :P

[final flash]

what is the game like, it isnt in England yet

[Lunay]

Active on 24/7 for me. I had it on since the start of the game haven't turned it off for nothing. I am awesome. :P

Yes, you are awesome. I personally love Active and is more challenging in my opinion. =] But at times, especially when Im tired, the Wait mode is in order.

[Porco Rosso]

Most of my characters are level 18, though Vaan and Basch are level 20. I'm 20 hours in and just landed in the Westersand and am heading toward King Raithwall's Tomb. Before that, though, I'm going to finish exploring the Westersand and fight some marks.

I'm playing this game very slowly. I have the habit of exploring every inch of the entire map, fighting everything, and talking to everyone in the towns. I think I'm obsessive compulsive. :|

With that said, I haven't had any trouble at all so far. Are my characters at decent levels, or should I do some more grinding?

[HitokiriShadow]

I've been using Wait, but I may try Active at some point. Considering how overpowered I am right now, it shouldn't be a problem.

Most of my characters are level 18, though Vaan and Basch are level 20. I'm 20 hours in and just landed in the Westersand and am heading toward King Raithwall's Tomb. Before that, though, I'm going to finish exploring the Westersand and fight some marks.

I'm playing this game very slowly. I have the habit of exploring every inch of the entire map, fighting everything, and talking to everyone in the towns. I think I'm obsessive compulsive. :|

With that said, I haven't had any trouble at all so far. Are my characters at decent levels, or should I do some more grinding?

You're probably at about the level you should be, maybe a bit higher. I'm at about the same place you are, and I haven't been having any trouble (outside of that Lvl45 fireball thing floating around in Uta-whatever Sandsea). You probably don't need to worry about grinding for a while.

Normally, I would be doing lots of exploring as well, but I'm planning on just finishing the story ASAP so that I can go back and finish Tales of the Abyss, which I failed to complete (or get anywhere close to completing) before FF12 came out. After that, I'll replay FF12 and do more exploring (and try not to screw myself from getting the Zodiac Spear like I did this time).

[Porco Rosso]

Awesome, thanks for letting me now.

I'm pissed I missed the Zodiac Spear myself. I think I'm going to spend a lot of time on this playthrough, though, so I probably won't get it for a while. I have a feeling I'm going to be very drained once I finish this game.

[kittynboi]

I don't know about anyone else but I love that about this game. In other final fantasy's, when I was half way though the game I could buy everything I needed, twice, But in this FF, Your so pathetically poor that it's not even funny.

It adds a lot of decision on what to get. Like if your party members keep dieing in battle and you only have money for one set of items such as healing magic/items, better armour or better weapon's, Which one do you get? I was in my menu for like 15 Min's trying to figure out what would be a more beneficial purchase.


One of my problems is that, when I get a lot of gil, I feel tempted to max out my items rather than get new equipment. The expense of things and lack of $$ make healing a touchy matter as you can't easily go to the store and get 99 potions after half an hour of fighting.

The Licensce board is a bit more cost efficient, until you get near the edges and things cost like 100 or more for a single space. I love that this game combines leveling up and the board to increase stats. Those HP bonuses on the board are the best!


And yeah, you really do feel like you're traveling in this one. In past FF's, the small overworld map, small areas, and lack of real depth in towns and regions made the entire worlds seem no bigger than an averaged sized U.S. state. But this time, the world feels much more vast, and it genuinely takes a long time, more than a few mins of walking, to get to your destination.

And I just love looking at the maps of the areas. Their sheer size and the myriad of exits to places you have no clue about is so intimidating. I love that you can wander off in to an area you aren't meant to go to, and usually get ownzorzed by the enemies there.

[Lunay]

Ive missed my oppurtunity on Zodiac Spear as well. Hehe. For that reason, I will have to play this game again after I finish this run. I just wish I knew about it before I started grinding my characters. Its a major blow to my habit of completing everything. Oh, well.

[kittynboi]

I missed this spear too since I have no clue where it was.

[HitokiriShadow]

The trick with the Zodiac Spear is that there are 4 treasure chests that you CANNOT open if you want to get it. The first one is in front of Old Dalan's house, and I opened it before I knew that. I was using the player's guide for a little while (which I *NEVER* do for my first playthrough of a game) because of the randomization of treasure chests and I decided to read the little side notes as well and discovered this.

And yeah, you really do feel like you're traveling in this one. In past FF's, the small overworld map, small areas, and lack of real depth in towns and regions made the entire worlds seem no bigger than an averaged sized U.S. state. But this time, the world feels much more vast, and it genuinely takes a long time, more than a few mins of walking, to get to your destination.

And I just love looking at the maps of the areas. Their sheer size and the myriad of exits to places you have no clue about is so intimidating. I love that you can wander off in to an area you aren't meant to go to, and usually get ownzorzed by the enemies there.

That's one of the great aspects of the game and a good reason to not use the typical world map.

Another thing I like is that the battle system allows you to really appreciate the size of your enemies in a way that you can't with the classic battle system. You really get that OH SH- feeling when you encounter creatures like the Mimic Queen.

[LOSTyears]

The first one is in front of Old Dalan's house, and I opened it before I knew that.LOL, I missed that one too. Luckily I was only 3 hours into it so I started over and got back to that spot in no time.

I'm about 7 hours in(really 10 if you count that ^), just got past the Mimic Queen. I've fallen in love with this battle system, the more people you get in your party the funner it becomes. Don't get me started on the Gambit's :thumbsup: At first I thought the License grid was a bit tedious but its grown on me, like X's sphere grid it alows you to customize. This one's more deeper though.

Not disappointed in the least.
IX went out with a bang on PS1, looks like XII might do the same.

[F Stop]

I'm about 7.5 hours into the game, and I am really enjoying it.

Not getting gil for fighting is a tough thing to get used to. Lots of stuff I'd like to stock up on that I can't...

[Porco Rosso]

Do you know about Loot, F Stop? You get a bunch of items under this category from fighting, and about 90% are meant to be sold. The only ones you shouldn't sell are ones you get from the higher level clan hunts, Teleport Stones, and ones that fetch you a suspiciously high amount of Gil. Those ones will probably come in handy in side quests later in.

[Lunay]

Teleport-stones can be bought for 200G each once you can ride an airship, that or you can steal it from mobs. And I am keeping the items I get from 'hunts' such as Greatserpent Skin I got from Nidhogg and Turtle Shell i got from Rocktoise. I am tempted to sell a few rare items because selling items can unlock some rare items in your vendors bazaar. But until I find out, I will hold on to them.

It was strange to see Nidhogg as a huge serpent because hes a dragon in FFXI. Rocktoise is the exact same as Adamantoise, though (lol).

[kittynboi]

That's one of the great aspects of the game and a good reason to not use the typical world map.

Another thing I like is that the battle system allows you to really appreciate the size of your enemies in a way that you can't with the classic battle system. You really get that OH SH- feeling when you encounter creatures like the Mimic Queen.


Theres someone I keep getting in arguments with over this, who says he wishes they would bring back the world map so you could manually fly airships again. >_<

I'm satisfied with it like this. I always thought the typical world map made the games seem so much more unrealistic and absurd for the reasons I stated above about the size of the world.

There is another way to get the spear, according to the guide;

In the phase 2 dig of the Henne mines, theres a chest that you can get it from. If you have the diamond armlet, theres a 10% chance of finding the spear in the chest. The rest of the time its just an elixer or something.

[kittynboi]

Teleport-stones can be bought for 200G each once you can ride an airship, that or you can steal it from mobs. And I am keeping the items I get from 'hunts' such as Greatserpent Skin I got from Nidhogg and Turtle Shell i got from Rocktoise. I am tempted to sell a few rare items because selling items can unlock some rare items in your vendors bazaar. But until I find out, I will hold on to them.

It was strange to see Nidhogg as a huge serpent because hes a dragon in FFXI. Rocktoise is the exact same as Adamantoise, though (lol).


I'm not entirely sure, but I think that selling rare items to the bazaar and opening up new things in it is the only way to get some of the best weapons and armor in the game.

[HitokiriShadow]

I'm about 7.5 hours into the game, and I am really enjoying it.

Not getting gil for fighting is a tough thing to get used to. Lots of stuff I'd like to stock up on that I can't...

Like Porco Rosso said, sell pretty much everything in the loot category other than the Teleport Stones (I don't know why they stuck that in the Loot category anyway). You shouldn't have to much difficulty getting equipment and stuff after that.

Also, chaining (defeating the same type of enemy consecutively) results in higher drop rates of better stuff.

[kittynboi]

Here's a semi-secret, or at least not obvious, bit of info to help if you want it.

Not too long after you get in to the game, expensive books called Grimories start to appear in the bazaar. Although they start at upwards of 18,000 gil, these should be your #1 priority when you have $$. Each grimorie will increase the chance of rare, superior loot being dropped by certain types of enemies. For instance, if you have the first grimorie, beasts and avians will drop better items than if you don't have it.

[Lunay]

Here's a semi-secret, or at least not obvious, bit of info to help if you want it.

Not too long after you get in to the game, expensive books called Grimories start to appear in the bazaar. Although they start at upwards of 18,000 gil, these should be your #1 priority when you have $$. Each grimorie will increase the chance of rare, superior loot being dropped by certain types of enemies. For instance, if you have the first grimorie, beasts and avians will drop better items than if you don't have it.

That is great news! In FFXI there is something called Treasure Hunter which will do the same thing as you described. I was just thinking to myself how cool it would be if they had something like that in FFXII. Well, I guess they do! =P Thanks for this wonderful information.

And as far as rare items, should I just sell them since they have no other use? Or should I hold onto certain items? If so, for what reason? Please use the spoiler-tag if necessary. Thanks.

[Levon]

Here's a semi-secret, or at least not obvious, bit of info to help if you want it.

Not too long after you get in to the game, expensive books called Grimories start to appear in the bazaar. Although they start at upwards of 18,000 gil, these should be your #1 priority when you have $$. Each grimorie will increase the chance of rare, superior loot being dropped by certain types of enemies. For instance, if you have the first grimorie, beasts and avians will drop better items than if you don't have it.

Damn! I wish I knew that sooner:lol: I have a bunch in the bazaar but never bought any.

[Seraphim]

Nothing can top Triple Triad. NOTHING.


Agreed I cant even count the hours I spent just playing TT.
Also I really enjoyed Blitzball once I recruited a good team. "Jamal in Bevel is the only goalie you will ever need." :P

[kittynboi]

Sell anything under loot except teleport stones, as someone else said. None of that stuff can be used for anything, and selling certain combinations of it (though not all at a time) opens up good stuff; for example

one of the two ways to get the ultima blade is to sell;

adamantine x2
death powder x2
gnoma halcyon x1

As I understand, you don't have to do it all at once or in that order. Just sell those quantities of those specific items and once you do the Ultima Blade opens up. Many of the higher powered weapons are gained in this manner, and I think a few things can ONLY be bought at the bazaar after selling the right items.

[kittynboi]

Also, has anyone managed to do this; (hunt related, not story related)

I'm trying to hunt the Gil Snapper, but every time I go to the tracks of the beast, the rain is either light or nonexistant. Is there something specific I have to do or some point I have to pass in the game before the rain will be heavy?

[crow-kun]

Also, has anyone managed to do this; (hunt related, not story related)

I'm trying to hunt the Gil Snapper, but every time I go to the tracks of the beast, the rain is either light or nonexistant. Is there something specific I have to do or some point I have to pass in the game before the rain will be heavy?I beat all the turtles there first and then went back later and it was there. But the guy says that it has to be raining really heavy for it to show up(when you hear and see thunder and lighting). It might be both though.
A little advice
If you are at a low level (because that thing has to be over level 40 judging by the normal ones) use bow and guns it makes it easier you can attack from a distance and if it gets close run and go back after it losses interest.

[kittynboi]

I'm gonna go ahead with the story and see if it shows up later on. As for lvls, Vaan and Ashe are at lvl 40 or so themselves, and I can take down the silicon turtles with ease. I managed to take down two other level 3 marks with little real difficulty.

[Rahxephon91]

I'm about 25 hours in and leveling before I go to the Stilshrine. Here are my thoughts.

General- FFXII is the game of the year for me. Its really fun and just plain awesome. FFX is my favorite FF and this one will most likely become my 2nd favorite FF. After FFXI and FFX-2 it’s good to see FFXII turn out so good.

Story-As a big fan of Gundam the war/political story of FFXII really appeals to me. Since the game began it just absorbed me. Unlike other RPGs and even Final Fantasy X, XII hasn’t had what I call "downtime" the story just keeps on going, it keeps on getting better. I do wish the other Judges played a bigger part in the game though. Then again I'm only 25 hours in and they still have time to really impact the game. I also think FFXII has a lot of twists that I didn’t see coming. About the characters, I personally really like them. I really liked FFX's cast, Titus and Yuna where pretty cool but FFXII's characters are awesome. Balither is just sly and the lines are pretty funny. Vaan is your normal teenager boy; he’s someone I can identify with. I like Ashe because she is a strong willed female and that’s cool. Basch is just a cool character. Fran is also pretty cool. Penelo is just meh.

Battle system-The battle system is semi turn based and I like it. It feels very fast and doesn’t slow the game down. I really liked FFX's turnbased system but XII's is also good. I have wait on so to me its still somewhat turnbased. I can see why people may not like it as it can does feel boring and uninvolved but that only really happens if you rely on gambits to much, which I think is impossible. I would like this semi-turnbased battle system expanded on.

Gambits- I like having the turnbased/control feel so I only use a few gambits. Mostly just so when I'm surrounded by enemies, my party targets the next enemy. I still input the other commands and with that I feel involved. I just think gambits are there so that you don’t have to do the stupid stuff.

The License board- I loved FFX's sphere grid. It allowed you to make your characters what ever class you wanted and then some. At first I disliked XII's LB but as I continue to play it really does allow you to make your characters the way you want. It just doesn’t focus on choosing your stats since you automatically improve them when you gain a level. The LB allows you to shape your character.

The negatives for me are that there seems to be a lot of grinding and the music isn’t that great. Then again I never thought any of the FF had great music. Digital Devil Saga had a great soundtrack.

I also like how the areas are connected. I really liked that about FFX, it makes you feel like you are on an adventure. Also the dungeons are fine. I hate puzzles.

[Lunay]

Ah, thanks for confirming that everything in your loot should be sold.

One minor complaint for me is that you cannot carry duplicate stacks of a single item. But I completely understand why they chose to do so. It makes gil earning more interesting.

One huge compliment is the ADB(Active Dimentional Battle) system. Its like a mix of FFXI and Tactics. I love it.

And random encounter is so 1990.

When will I a get a better gun??? =P Right now the best Gun that I have seen is the Capella. And that only has a base-attack of 10. At my point of the game, Cypress Pole is the best weapon I have. It seems to have a blunt-type damage and it does awesome damage to mobs like Bats and Flans. Killer Bow is awesome too. But I'm a huge fan of guns and would like to obtain some powerful ones.

[Rahxephon91]

There are still random encounters in FFXII.

[Lunay]

There are still random encounters in FFXII.

True. But that is not what I meant! Yes, there are mobs that won't pop until you walk around its 'general' area. But, even those are predicatable once you figure out their pop location. I was referring to the traditional ways of Final Fantasy. FFXII is more like Chrono Trigger where you can see the mobs on the battlefield.

[HitokiriShadow]

Not really. FF12 really can't have random battles due to the battle system and the fact that the enemies are all on the field to begin with.

EDIT: Okay, so there are some enemies that seem to pop up randomly, but they are still there even when they are hidden and waiting for you to walk by. That's not "random" at all.

[F Stop]

Hey, I'm stuck on a boss, and was wondering if you guys have any advice:

When you're on the Imperial airship about 8 hours into the game, right after you rescue the princess, you have to fight that judge guy. I've now fought him 3 times, and absolutely destroys my party. Any advice? Is there something in particular that I need?

I cast protect on my party, but it doesn't really seem to help...

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

[crow-kun]

Have you gotten at least 3 people with mist knacks? Get his health down by half at least and and use them. Thats what I did I was about to lose some people and I went all out.

[gameoffreak8]

Hey, I'm stuck on a boss, and was wondering if you guys have any advice:

When you're on the Imperial airship about 8 hours into the game, right after you rescue the princess, you have to fight that judge guy. I've now fought him 3 times, and absolutely destroys my party. Any advice? Is there something in particular that I need?

I cast protect on my party, but it doesn't really seem to help...

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Use your mist knacks. First you have to get his HP down then use them. If it's not work, use attack, cure, attack, cure, etc...

[Porco Rosso]

Man, the Sandsea was effing huge. There basically wasn't an inch of it that I didn't explore, so it took me a couple hours and I ended up gaining a bunch of levels and LP. I just got to King Raithwall's Tomb and beat the boss at the beginning and found it surprisingly easy. I saved outside of the place and am taking a break for the day. This game is incredibly fun but it drains the life out of me.

Vaan is now level 28 and all the other characters are level 23. I'm pretty sure I have all the HP Augments now, and all my characters have at least one Quickening, though Vaan has two. I have 30 hours on my clock thinger.

[kittynboi]

Hey, I'm stuck on a boss, and was wondering if you guys have any advice:

When you're on the Imperial airship about 8 hours into the game, right after you rescue the princess, you have to fight that judge guy. I've now fought him 3 times, and absolutely destroys my party. Any advice? Is there something in particular that I need?

I cast protect on my party, but it doesn't really seem to help...

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!


You mean Ghis?

I cas't blind and silence on him. Both worked, He was totally helpless after that.

[kittynboi]

Ah, thanks for confirming that everything in your loot should be sold.

One minor complaint for me is that you cannot carry duplicate stacks of a single item. But I completely understand why they chose to do so. It makes gil earning more interesting.

One huge compliment is the ADB(Active Dimentional Battle) system. Its like a mix of FFXI and Tactics. I love it.

And random encounter is so 1990.

When will I a get a better gun??? =P Right now the best Gun that I have seen is the Capella. And that only has a base-attack of 10. At my point of the game, Cypress Pole is the best weapon I have. It seems to have a blunt-type damage and it does awesome damage to mobs like Bats and Flans. Killer Bow is awesome too. But I'm a huge fan of guns and would like to obtain some powerful ones.


You don't get a "better" gun in the way you're thinking. Guns have the second lowest attack power of all the weapon classes, BUT, they do a consistent amount of damage regardless of the enemys defense. So no matter how high or low an enemys defense is, the guns will do the same amount of damage to each one. Also, the attack power is augmented a bit once you equip ammo, so the power you see when browsing in the shops is somewhat misleading.

I've now given Ashe use of Katanas, Penelo use of Ninja Swords, and Basch use of Crossbows.

I'm 40 hours in to the game. Vaan and Ashe are at lvl 30. Everyone else is 28-30 since I switch people out so often but leave Vaan and Ashe in the group. Right now I'm building up the non Vaan and Ashe people with those two are out of the party, and I'm getting stuff to sell for new equipment.

I gave Basch a Golden Pendant, so he's getting x2 LP, and he's nearly filled out the upper half of the board and has all 3 of his Quickenings. He has every augment. I might buy more of those things just to speed up my completion of the board.

[F Stop]

Yes, Ghis. I never thought about silence and blind, thanks. I don't currently have those, and i doubt i have enough license points to get them.

If i were to run around the ship fighting the random guards that appear while en route to the Ghis fight, that might get me enough, eh?

So Ghis doesn't cure himself when those are cast on him?

Thanks again.

[kittynboi]

Well, he can't cure himself if he's silenced.

I guess you couldl build up enough LP. I already had them by the time I got there.

[Lunay]

Ghis is around lvl16 if I remember correctly. His little imperial guards are only lvl10. My characters were at like lvl30 when I fought Ghis so I didn't need Mist or any spell. Try Disable if you don't have Silence or Blind. I love Blind by the way. It does wonders. Disable is hard to stick, but it is amazingly helpful. Kinda like paralyze, but its 100% once it sticks.

And yes, Guns have lower base-attack but does consistant damage like you said. I looked in my inventory and i actually had a Vega I got from somewhere. Axe and hammer is cool too but I hate the fact that it is not consistent! I havent seen a katana yet. : jealous :

Im grinding my characters to 50 before I move forward (lol).

[kittynboi]

Yeah, the katana don't start showing up until later, and they're a bit farther out on the board. They look neat in battle, and have decent attack power, but unless you just want to use it for the sake of using it, there are better things to use.

I still haven't ventured in to the frightening world of Measures. Even though Arc Scale is an awesome name.

I also love how all the rifles are named after stars.

[Lunay]

Hey is there anyway to get rid Berserk and X-Zone effect? I hate waiting for Berserk to wear off.

[kittynboi]

Not that I know of. Esuna doesn't work. Killing the person and reviving them is the only thing that MIGHT work, but I never tried that.

[Lunay]

Haha. That's funny. Ah, I just found out that X-Zone will dissapear if you just simply zone. But im not sure about Berserk. When someone is slept, I have my gambit on attack>teammate, so I might even try your killing method. Thanks.

Edit: Yeah, killing them and raising them worked! You're a genius (lol).

[HitokiriShadow]

You may also be able to cure it with a Remedy with the proper augment, but I'm not sure. Also, most status effects wear off after a certain amount of time.

Yeah, the katana don't start showing up until later, and they're a bit farther out on the board. They look neat in battle, and have decent attack power, but unless you just want to use it for the sake of using it, there are better things to use.

Katanas use magic power for their attack rather than strenth, so you'll need high magic power for them to be effective. Mystic armor should help increase their strenghth as well since that armor type increases magic power.

[neojedi]

If you are at a low level (because that thing has to be over level 40 judging by the normal ones) use bow and guns it makes it easier you can attack from a distance and if it gets close run and go back after it losses interest.
You can take out turtles in FFXII using classic kiting strategy from FFXI. Give everyone ranged weapons. Watch the character list to see whose name is highlighted in red to see who the Gil Snapper wants to attack. Use the up/down d-pad arrows to change your leader to whoever has hate. The person with hate runs, everyone else pelts the turtle with missiles. To avoid having to heal, use at least 1 gunner with Silent Shot to take out the Gil Snapper's spells.

In case you don't want to cycle leaders, FFXII does have a flavor of voke (it's a spell called Decoy), but it doesn't always work for some reason.

[seba_boi]

FF12 characters > FFX characters. Balthier would be my love if I were gay.
I love all the characters, but Balthier takes the cake for me... Best FF roster ever with characters I actually cared for... (I like Vossler too :()

[ryushe]

I love all the characters, but Balthier takes the cake for me... Best FF roster ever with characters I actually cared for... (I like Vossler too :()
Tell me about it. :uhh:

[seba_boi]

Tell me about it.And what occured to him made him all the more special

Oh, and my character stats so far:

. Vaan: Guns (White/Black/Green/Time Magicks)
. Ashe: Axe/Daggers + Shield (White/Time/Green Magicks)
. Balthier (coolest FF character): Sword +Shield (Green/Technicks specialist)
. Fran: Bows (White/Black/Green/Time/Arcane)
. Penelo (I love the voice actress they chose): Poles/Bowgun (White/Black/Green/Time/Arcane)
. Basch (very charismatic character--I love it): Spears/Katanas (White/Black Magicks)

[crow-kun]

My characters are pretty much learning the same things on the license board.

[Lunay]

Yeah, same here. I will eventually unlock all for everyone. My top portion of the board (spells and stats) is very close to complete. My weapon and armor board still has a ways to go but that is only because I only unlock the grid if the weapon/armor is available to use. I like versatility for my characters since every mob has a weakness to certain weapon-type.

[kittynboi]

Yeah, the augment part of the board is what most people will probably complete first, since its the only part that has immediate effects and doesn't require the purchase of something to be useful.

And I never thought of setting someone to attack anyone with sleep. I'll have to do that.

[HitokiriShadow]

I've been focusing on augments and saving most of the equipment stuff for when I have the actual equipment, but I've been licensing more equipment now that I've finished most of the augments for everyone.

My characters at the moment:

Vaan (Lvl 30): Sword/Shield
Ashe (Lvl 29): Sword/Shield
Basch (lvl 29): Axe/Shield
Balthier (lvl 24): Guns
Fran (lvl 24): Bows
Penelo (lvl 24): Crossbow

Everyone is using heavy armor for now.

Ashe and Penelo are my main magic users, but Vaan has a good amount as well. Fran is decent, but Basch and Balthier barely have any.

[kittynboi]

I gave Basch the Amber Armlet, and combined with the Brawler augment, he does as much damage bare handed as most people do with weaponry.

[F Stop]

Hey, do you guys know if there are images of the license board available online somewhere? I want to find out where Silence & Blind are in relation to the licenses I already have...

[ryushe]

^ http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/final_fantasy_xii_license_grid.png

[HitokiriShadow]

Here's one:

Found this License Board image (http://home.comcast.net/~jhunwung/LicenseGrid.png) for any of you struggling with it. It's extremely helpful.

[F Stop]

Thanks. The images don't necessarily show where those items are. I guess I'll just have to be patient and wait until I get off work to sort it out.

[HitokiriShadow]

Erh, what do you mean? It shows right where they are.

Blind is part of Green Magick 1, which is right above White Magick 2 (Vox and Poisona)
Silence is part of Green Magick 3, two to the left of Green Magick 1 or right above White Magic 4 (Esuna and Regen).

[ryushe]

He's most likey talking about the one I posted.

[F Stop]

Erh, what do you mean? It shows right where they are.

Blind is part of Green Magick 1, which is right above White Magick 2 (Vox and Poisona)
Silence is part of Green Magick 3, two to the left of Green Magick 1 or right above White Magic 4 (Esuna and Regen).

Beauty, thanks. I lost sleep about this damn battle last night, but I'm feelin good about things now.

[Sendo Takeshi]

I love all the characters, but Balthier takes the cake for me... Best FF roster ever with characters I actually cared for... (I like Vossler too :()


Sexy-Man Balthier is too good. Vossler is awesome. He reminded me of Guts. Like I said before, if I were gay, Balthier would be getting the man-secks.

[seba_boi]

My characters are pretty much learning the same things on the license board.
Eh... I like variety... Even with Final Fantasy VII and VIII, I like to place specific spells to certain characters... Maybe at the end they'll all learn the same thing, but for now, I'm strict to giving Magicks and Tecknicks... But since I got all my characters to wear Golden Amulets, LP gaining is pretty much a breeze (especially with boss fights--50 LP here I come)...

So far, I'm level 25 and friggin' Larsa doesn't even change levels... (He's got endless supply of X-Potions though, so I don't want him to leave)....

Sexy-Man Balthier is too good. Vossler is awesome. He reminded me of Guts. Like I said before, if I were gay, Balthier would be getting the man-secks. Balthier's the man!... He pretty much leads my party 50% of the time (Basch and Ashe are the other 25%)...

[gameoffreak8]

I'm about ten hours so far and It's pretty awesome. I don't have a problem on License Board and Gambits. When I am checking my guide book on that area after I completed the area and finding few treasure chests are not showing up. WTF? What's going on?

For vendors bazaar, should I buy Unassuming Surcoat?

[seba_boi]

I'm about ten hours so far and It's pretty awesome. I don't have a problem on License Board and Gambits. When I am checking my guide book on that area after I completed the area and finding few treasure chests are not showing up. WTF? What's going on?
If you're using the guidebook (I don't even fathom anyone who wouldn't), you should see the table showing the percentages of the treasure "chests" appearances on the map and the percentage of what will show up inside... It's really annoying at times... But at least they reappear when you leave the area map (as in the entire area map)...

[gameoffreak8]

Ah, I see. Geez, that's so annoying. >_<
Oh, I am using the guidebook for license board image. ^_^

[ryushe]

Wow, alot of people have the guidebook. I was about to buy it since the Gamespot salesman asked me if I wanna get it but when I went to open my wallet I seen a fly fly out since I forgot all my money went into the FFXII CE -_-;.

While anyone was crossing the Giza plains to get to the Garif homeland, Did you notice some kind of character in the land fighting monsters? What race is he?

[seba_boi]

Wow, alot of people have the guidebook. I was about to buy it since the Gamespot salesman asked me if I wanna get it but when I went to open my wallet I seen a fly fly out since I forgot all my money went into the FFXII CE -_-;.

While anyone was crossing the Giza plains to get to the Garif homeland, Did you notice some kind of character in the land fighting monsters? What race is he?
This is the only game which I bought a guidebook for... And thank goodness I was bought by the artbook included 'cuz it's really essential (especially to find free weapons, gambits, and armors--'cuz maaaaan, my character is pretty piss poor)...

And that guy was a Garif I believe...

[gameoffreak8]

Wow, alot of people have the guidebook. I was about to buy it since the Gamespot salesman asked me if I wanna get it but when I went to open my wallet I seen a fly fly out since I forgot all my money went into the FFXII CE -_-;.

While anyone was crossing the Giza plains to get to the Garif homeland, Did you notice some kind of character in the land fighting monsters? What race is he?

Heh. I have to thank my brother pay half on the price of FFXII CE. :)

Yeah, I noticed him as well. I also beileve it's Garif.

This is the only game which I bought a guidebook for... And thank goodness I was bought by the artbook included 'cuz it's really essential (especially to find free weapons, gambits, and armors--'cuz maaaaan, my character is pretty piss poor)...

What character?

[ryushe]

Just got to the homeland, Yeah it's a Garif -_-;. man the look really cool.

And I'm piss poor to, When you get a lot of loot to sell you basically get nothing. I can't even but new eqipment.
I'm poor in real, life I don't wanna be in games...

Anyone got the Blood sword by chance, That thing is great. (HP sap FTW)

[seba_boi]

What character?
As in my main character(s)... The lack of funds made me hunt more Sturdy Bones and Quality Pelts for some bucks... And I'm so poor to buy Grimoires (to improve loot drops)....

[F Stop]

Hey guys, everytime I try and cast blind on Judge Ghis, it misses. Any advice??

[gameoffreak8]

As in my main character(s)... The lack of funds made me hunt more Sturdy Bones and Quality Pelts for some bucks... And I'm so poor to buy Grimoires (to improve loot drops)....
Ah, I see.
Hey guys, everytime I try and cast blind on Judge Ghis, it misses. Any advice??
As I said on page 21, try to use mist knacks after his health is down. I hope you can beat Judge Ghis! :)

[seba_boi]

Hey guys, everytime I try and cast blind on Judge Ghis, it misses. Any advice??I don't remember how I beat him, but I remember it being very easy... I didn't even blind him... Do you have any Quickenings?...